It will be released any second from right now. I personally haven't been this excited for a game in a long time.
From the pre stream video things, the game looks great. Although it is a survival game its more like an open world game. Learning to build new things, taming dinosaurs and making clans/tribes.
I woke up on a beach, saw a little dinosaur run up to me. It spit in my face and blinded me, so I ran. A stegosaurus swings his tail and nails the little dinosaur just as I clear the gunk from my face.
A few hours later I run a tribe I called the Unga Bunga's with 3 members. We have started making huts and almost tamed a Giant Tortoise. We defended the Tortoise against some raiders and ate their flesh as a celebration.
We had to set up rules about clearing our defecation off the beach because it was starting to look messy. We unlocked the ability to make slingshots and used them to take out a Giant Eagle that tried to feast upon us.
This game is great (although there are some bugs here and there). Had a lot of fun. Some ugly characters as well.
So how is this different from the dozens of other survival games on Steam right now? It doesn't have zombies, OK what else? I watched videos of it and it just looks like the Stomping Grounds (hell the features are the same), with a bit of that medieval game where you can become King thrown in. In other words Youtube bait, but there's no substance to them. Question is, where does it see itself in a year? The same game with less of a playerbase and a load of promised features that take forever to come? Or that, just with maybe some more features, but still nobody'll be playing it because a couple of hundred over games turned up on Steam that offered the exact same thing in the mean time...
Wyrmalla wrote: So how is this different from the dozens of other survival games on Steam right now? It doesn't have zombies, OK what else? I watched videos of it and it just looks like the Stomping Grounds (hell the features are the same), with a bit of that medieval game where you can become King thrown in. In other words Youtube bait, but there's no substance to them. Question is, where does it see itself in a year? The same game with less of a playerbase and a load of promised features that take forever to come? Or that, just with maybe some more features, but still nobody'll be playing it because a couple of hundred over games turned up on Steam that offered the exact same thing in the mean time...
Yes, I do watch all of Jim Stirling's videos.
Alright all fair questions
Now this game is different (I love Dayz to be clear) to the others because.... its very casual. Everything I need is around, it is just up to me to what I do with it.
Taming is done better than the other survival games. Its hard, the better the dino the harder it gets.
It actually promotes teamwork. Building a fortress is so easy with 3 of us doing it. The fact that finding people is easy helps a lot too. The map isnt huge huge and global chat means making friends (and enemies) is easy.
It has an RPG ish system that means you can focus on things that your friends dont have. This is huge. For example I made spears for my buddies while they made pick axes.
It has a real end game (ish). We start off as mere cavemen. Eventually guns, taming a wide variety of animals and huge fortresses will be attainable (in its current state too).
It has stories and mysteries. We are still trying to find out the full situation but there are mini quests. Something about brood queen spider mothers, caves, giant towers that apparently have story in them.
Ultimately it is very different to the other survival games, as they all differ from each other. HOWEVER will it develop properly? Who knows. DayZ is still being a pain with development...
I hear it is very hard on on the graphics card. How is it running for everyone? I would have to play solo and that basically means setting up your comp as a server.
nomotog wrote: I hear it is very hard on on the graphics card. How is it running for everyone? I would have to play solo and that basically means setting up your comp as a server.
Solo is worse than server.
Right now... I must play on low (with an average comp) but my buddy with a high end can play medium. I can run DayZ on above medium, so I expect mine can run it ARK on medium when it gets better optimized (which is the first fix apparently).
Man we had so much fun, my tribe grew and we sucjed up resources for miles around trying to create our fort and tamed a few dinosaurs. The first cavalry was formed today.
We had a war with some lesser peoples over the last berry tress in the 10 minute radius.
Ok, just bought it half way through watching a first installment of someones Let's Play.
It will go on my laptop to start, so graphics settings may suffer.
When I a back home I will load it on my rig and see how it flies.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Not happy, got the infinite loading screen problem many have reported.
Relogged several times, often after lengthy waits, not yet played. Sometimes it crashes or freezes instead of kicking me back to choose server screen.
I've got a decent set-up. Wooden two story house on PVE37, northeastern side of the Island. Had a few setbacks so far - went off to tame a Parasaur, and 3/4 of the way through I got the message that Warpig, my tame Phiomia had been killed by an Argentavis... big bird thing. So the Parasaur I was taming glitched or something, because as soon as the bar filled it got up and walked away, still wild. Or maybe I did something wrong... but it took all of my berries with it.
So I killed the thing and ate it raw for revenge, and ran back to my house. On the way I managed to aggro another Argentavis and a raptor at the same time, and despite a guy on a trike trying to help me, they killed me.
But it's alright, on the way back to my house I leveled again and tamed a parasaur I ran into - although he's only level 5 instead of the level 17 one I almost had before.
So far that taming glitch has been my only issues - there is some rubberbanding and graphical issues, but pretty good so far. I haven't crashed once, which is pretty rare on an early access game.
One aspect that makes me laugh is the sheer level of deforestation, there are maybe three active players around the cove where I built my house, and we have pushed the treeline waaaay back. Makes me feel like a Captain Planet villain.
Sometimes the animals wake up before the taming is finished because either another dinosaur of the same type is around or someone was messing with your dinosaur (happened to me once, caught the guy and ate him).
Yea the loss of resources is what will drive the huge tribes that will develop into war I reckon. Those resources dont come back quickly...
A tip for the dinosaurs, the trikes and parasaurs love the purple berries. I put the other berries in there for the taming meter to stay just in case but I focus on simply getting the mejo berries on there. Having a mortar and pestle really helps the taming too.
Bromsy wrote: Got a Trike! LordMurderDeathFace joins me and my Parasaur Long Dong McQuaid.
We had a trike too, he was amazing at level 20, but I accidentally put him on aggressive mode and he charged some creatures, by the time I caught up with him he was dead surrounded by bodies. Heroic end.
The trikes can do damage to buildings so make good use of that!
I got it, and it works. I kind of wasn't expecting it to run well, but I get a good frame rate on med.
Gameplay is rather good. I like how easy it is to gather mats wich is good as I die a lot and never find my body. Anyone a little annoyed that you have to remove your weapons/tools to harvest plants? It's a diffrent button so I don't know why they can't just let you pick them with a axe out.
It's annoying but workable; every game has little quirks like that.
To continue my story...
Using global chat I found a group of people working to establish a village called New Haven over on the east coast of the island. Considering I was established center north, I knew the trip would be difficult. I took Long Dong McQuaid, my parasaur, on a trip to scope out the area. It was a harrowing journey, I chose to travel upriver into the center of the island and then east to the coast from there.
The central part of the island is both beautiful and terrifying, I discovered many a sight that coast dwellers might never see, including huts built out over silt filled lakes, a mighty cliff hundred of feet high which an enterprising group had colonized, building a ladder up to the top where they had established a fortress, and a dozen strong herd of brontos. I was nearly slain by raptors, smilodon, and carnosaurs; but eventually the doughty Long Dong and myself emerged onto the eastern coastal plains, a land much less harsh than the northern coast I had initially landed upon. There I found New Haven, a small community built onto a peninsula jutting out into the sea, largely isolating them from larger predators.
I made up my mind to relocate, as a solitary existence on the north shore would no doubt feature significantly more death than would be my preference, I made the shorter and easier journey back to my home along the coasts.
I then set about demolishing my abode, packing my Trike, LordMurderDeathFace and Long Dong with the most valuable and lightweight components I could determine. Having finished the delicate loading process I ventured forth, into a brand new day - both literally and figuratively.
I managed to make my way almost a fifth of the distance to New Haven, artfully bypassing a T-Rex and a few other predators. Unhappily, LordMurderDeathFace seemed unable to negotiate even the most marginal of barriers, slowing the pace of my journey to a crawl. And then, as things often do - everything went wrong at once. A smilodon emerged from the brush to attack my mount, and I made the mistake of trying to outfox the canny predator instead of using my superior speed in an attempt to give my slower compatriot a chance to catch up. At the same time, an Argentavis locked eyes on him, and within moments my seemingly mighty comrade was so much carrion. And to make a bad day even worse, the Smilodon, whom I had thought long since left behind, emerged from the oceans to finish off my mount.
Scooping up a bare few necessities, I lit out for the safety of New Haven. I managed to avoid any great unpleasantness for the rest of my journey; the time since has been busy, phoenix like I emerged from the ashes of my ordeal and have now rebuilt myself to an astonishing degree. I have built a home far larger and far better designed, and begun work on a curtain wall to keep the wild beasts away from my new home. I have harnessed a new Trike and another Parasaur, and even tamed a mighty Carnosaur. The future of New Haven and her nineteen brave souls is bright indeed.
Okay - so I played a lot this weekend. Didn't get much sleep but I got to level 28 or so. Here are a few things I wish I'd known.
Stay Away From Argentavis.... insanely far aggro, will pursue you great distance, hit hard, graphical bugs make them hard to hit, and apparently they level up faster than anything else in the game because of another bug.
Picks and Axes don't necessarily work the way you'd think.
Used on corpses, a pick will get more Meat, an axe will get more Hides.
Used on trees, a pick will get more Thatch, and an axe will get Wood.
Used on rocks, a pick will get more Flint, and an axe will get more Stone.
Harvesting Stone is easiest just running along the beach, there is plenty to pick up just laying there, no need to mine.
Taming animals is apparently easier if you starve them for a while before you start feeding them. You must still use narcoberries or narcotics to keep their torpor up thought- this won't count as feeding them
Meat and Berries will degrade much slower if in the inventory of a pet. Get a Parasaur quick to use for this purpose.
As far as I can tell, Farming is functionally a waste of time, unless you are absolutely set on a turtling strategy. At level 20 you unlock the Trike Saddle, and when you ride around on a Trike your attack button will also do an AOE gathering of resources on bushes and trees. I've gotten 30 narcoberries in a minute or less, and without the investment needed for farming - engram points, time, space, resources.
I never spent the points to get a campfire, I never froze to death. Get cloth clothes and you are okay.
This is probably the most important thing, and will no doubt be changed soon due to the sheer OP factor, but bows. Right now, bows have a melee attack (hold lctrl) that fires quickly (seriously, just hold it down and go to town), does a pretty good amount of damage, and will knock dinos out instead of killing them. Ignore spears, spears are garbage - in their current incaration they don't suffer damage until they break like basically every other item in the game, they just have a fairly high chance to break any time you use it. This means that you will sometimes find yourself in a fight where your first four hits break three of your spears, and considering their fairly hefty weight you can't exactly expect to carry ten of them.
I'd say use your axe/pick until you get your slingshot, and then use that til you get your bow.
Oh, and swimming is for suckers unless you have a turtle mount or maaaaybe a parasaur. If you try to swim what seems like a reasonable distance to you based on other video games, you will die. You will either become exhausted and drown or a half dozen megalodons will hogpile you.
BrookM wrote: So, is this another survival MMO, or can it be played in singleplayer as well?
Also, how hard is it to craft a gun?
It does have a single player mode.
I can't find any complete crafting guides yet, they're being made basically as people discover the game, but I think guns are a way high level item. You'll have tamed multiple dinos before you get guns it seems.
Played it for a bit, died three times already, this is going to take some getting used to.
Also, really rough around the edges graphics wise. My rig may be a year old, but it can handle any new title without any hassle, except for this one. Ouch. Had to disable motion blur from the outset and lower the graphics from ultra to medium. Again, ouch.
Then I'll sit it out for a bit and wait for them to fix that first, seeing as a fight against three Dodo's has been utmost lethal with the framerate dropping to that of a Powerpoint Presentation.
Bit of a shock last night, we traveled around the island to realize other people had become far more advanced than us. Huge zoo's full of dinosaurs and forts that put ours to shame. I have a lot of work to do now.
I played to about level 17. Giving the game a break now since I don't want to burn out on it before some proper work on it is done. I'll probably come back to it in a couple months.
They rolled out an update this morning, it now more or less runs on my rig, plus the loading times have been reduced from 10+ minutes to a more manageable three or so minutes.
Fun times. We tamed a Dilo. It was attacked by a Velociraptor and tamed that to. Tried taming a bigger dino but were interrupted by a Carnosaur attacking us. It ate us and our dinos. Then we knocked it out with our bare fists and are taming it at the moment.
Plus the game has a defacate button. 10/10 Would poop again.
I myself have not a lot of problems running it. Got about 40/50 fps on high settings. And my rig is about 3/4 years old.
BrookM wrote: Another two updates were rolled out today, I can almost play this game on medium now!
Also, the material demands for some of these items is absurd. 75 rocks for a cooking fire?
I know. Though rocks aren't too hard to find. Run on the beach pressing e. I was so happy when I tamed my first mount, but then I looked at the cost of a saddle. 80 hides is kind of nuts.
BrookM wrote: Another two updates were rolled out today, I can almost play this game on medium now!
Also, the material demands for some of these items is absurd. 75 rocks for a cooking fire?
I know. Though rocks aren't too hard to find. Run on the beach pressing e. I was so happy when I tamed my first mount, but then I looked at the cost of a saddle. 80 hides is kind of nuts.
Remember different tools do different things, read their descriptions, it will help you get what you need very quickly.
i killed one of them. It spawned in a tree got stuck so I pelted it with rocks. I do that a lot. I don't know ho I will so some of the things I do without bugs.
You need 2 people. When the creature turns to attack one of you, the other attacks and continues until the beast tries to get him, then you switch roles.
Beats most medium to small animals with ease. Does not work on huge creatures which require larger weapons or glitches.
I am kind of wishing for a casual mode where you don't lose items on death. It's getting frustrating having to regather everything over and over. Also taming is kind of long. It wasn't too bad taming dilos, but I tried to tame a trike and ya that was too long.
nomotog wrote: I am kind of wishing for a casual mode where you don't lose items on death. It's getting frustrating having to regather everything over and over. Also taming is kind of long. It wasn't too bad taming dilos, but I tried to tame a trike and ya that was too long.
Build a base, get a chest and call it 'respawn chest'. In this chest make a sets of gear for you to use when you need to respawn, also learn the closest location to your base to respawn to.
The more you do it the faster it gets (taming). Also it depends on the level and the hunger. Try make them hungry (knock them out multiple times without killing them) before taming. Taming also requires certain things to go faster, like carnivorous love eggs or the better meat. Herbivorous love mejo berries and so on.
The game takes effort at first, once you get set up it gets easier and then you start improving your stuff.
nomotog wrote: I am kind of wishing for a casual mode where you don't lose items on death. It's getting frustrating having to regather everything over and over. Also taming is kind of long. It wasn't too bad taming dilos, but I tried to tame a trike and ya that was too long.
Build a base, get a chest and call it 'respawn chest'. In this chest make a sets of gear for you to use when you need to respawn, also learn the closest location to your base to respawn to.
The more you do it the faster it gets (taming). Also it depends on the level and the hunger. Try make them hungry (knock them out multiple times without killing them) before taming. Taming also requires certain things to go faster, like carnivorous love eggs or the better meat. Herbivorous love mejo berries and so on.
The game takes effort at first, once you get set up it gets easier and then you start improving your stuff.
I have a bed I re spawn too. It's a cute little house with a few chests, but still annoying to lose your stuff when you die. Knocking people out over and over is just more time to spend. I also do use mejo berries and nerco berries. (I also use the potion some times.)
nomotog wrote: I am kind of wishing for a casual mode where you don't lose items on death. It's getting frustrating having to regather everything over and over. Also taming is kind of long. It wasn't too bad taming dilos, but I tried to tame a trike and ya that was too long.
Build a base, get a chest and call it 'respawn chest'. In this chest make a sets of gear for you to use when you need to respawn, also learn the closest location to your base to respawn to.
The more you do it the faster it gets (taming). Also it depends on the level and the hunger. Try make them hungry (knock them out multiple times without killing them) before taming. Taming also requires certain things to go faster, like carnivorous love eggs or the better meat. Herbivorous love mejo berries and so on.
The game takes effort at first, once you get set up it gets easier and then you start improving your stuff.
I have a bed I re spawn too. It's a cute little house with a few chests, but still annoying to lose your stuff when you die. Knocking people out over and over is just more time to spend. I also do use mejo berries and nerco berries. (I also use the potion some times.)
I see, well seems you are on to it then haha.
One more thing I suggest then is to carry light. Personally I carry next to nothing in my inventory unless I have many spares. But I also play with at least 3 people so dying isn't a common thing for me. It also makes taming easier as we can tame many dinos at once.
Tamed a Stegosaurus, built another couple levels on my tower so that I'm taller than a Bronto my tribemates tamed.
Currently stabling :
Bucephalus the Parasaur
Hyperion the Trike
Artax the Raptor
Epona the Stegosaur
Lady Murderface the Carno
I was working on another trike for a load beast, but I accidentally killed it with my Stego whilst harvesting berries. Up to level 39 or something like that. I need to get some screenshots of the town.
Huge caves, under water cavs, distant islands, many technologies to progress, tribe system and more to come (assuming because it is in alpha) and at the same time loot caches for certain levels means there is plenty to do. Depends how fun you find games with no levels or missions really.
This is exactly why I've put the game down after having a lot of fun with it on the first weekend. I'm afraid that if I stay with it now I'll completely burn out on it before we even get near to the finished product.
hotsauceman1 wrote: It looks fun. IM just wondering. It is in alpha, but is it possible interest will wane after it is released
That is really the big problem with EA. You loose interest before the game is even finished. Not that you don't have fun in that time, but it's maybe not the best.
I wonder how good the Ps4 version will be TBH. I mean, games like this dont last long on console or have that much of a console fanbase. Destiny died fast
I think this game will do well and keep interest going. Especially if and when they start putting out new maps, and more creatures.
I could actually see this game eventually moving to procedurally generated maps as well.
This game also has something a lot of survival games don't, and that is a hostile environment that is actually freaking hostile. So while PvP is definitely a thing, there is also incentive to band together. Thus you end up with tribe vs tribe warfare over resources. its pretty cool actually. And even at high levels, a T-rex showing up can ruin everyone's day.
You know the game is hard when you spawn and a T-rex ganks you inside of 5 seconds.
nomotog wrote: I am kind of wishing for a casual mode where you don't lose items on death. It's getting frustrating having to regather everything over and over. Also taming is kind of long. It wasn't too bad taming dilos, but I tried to tame a trike and ya that was too long.
Build a base, get a chest and call it 'respawn chest'. In this chest make a sets of gear for you to use when you need to respawn, also learn the closest location to your base to respawn to.
So, my town/tribe is reaching endgameish stuff and diversifying a bit - starting to harvest oil/pearls in reasonable quantities and looking at electrifying.
I've been operating as more of a commodities guy, providing dinos and basic resources since I like building giant ridiculous towers and don't mind mindless repetitive tasks like fiber farming because I just watch shows on my tablet.
My dino stable has grown from
Bucephalus the Parasaur
Hyperion the Trike
Artax the Raptor
Epona the Stegosaur
Lady Murderface the Carno
to include Hrimfaxi (tamed her as a level 29) the Trike
Svadlifari the Bronto
Rageface the Argentavis
I turned over Epona for general use of the tribe in farming berries, as well as an ankylosaur named Rolling Thunder.
I went on a jaunt around the island on Lady Murderface - took a few hours, got about 1600 hides, 3 levels, and more meat than I know what to do with. Killed about 12 rexes and god knows how many other things. Frankly I don't think there is anything currently in the game that can mess with a level 40 carno. In one fight, without any guile or strategy I killed 2 rexes and 3 ankylosaurs without a noticeable drop in health. I like her better than say a rex because you are still small enough to see what is going on.
I finally find a server I get a decent framerate on, I find a sweet spot for a base protected by rocks that prevent any large predators from getting into, and what happens?
Not 1, but 2 Spinosaurs live nearby. And I mean really nearby. One is not 100 yards from my front door sitting on my berry patch, and he killed the lvl17 Trike I was going to try and tame. The other is not visible, and that concerns me.
Welp, I have been playing way too much since I've been on vacation, but it's also been a hoot.
Fought the Broodmother - my tribe's done this a bunch but this was the first time I was there - she spawns spiders continuously and we had four of us on sabertooths, farming the spiders for chitin while our army of dodos (about 35 of them) tanked the Broodmother herself. They did eventually wear her down.
Finally broke down and tamed a rex, and in the middle of that found one of the white carnosaurs that I wanted, so I tamed both of them at once. That was fun. Sabertooths are amazing and if anyone is unaware they have the best harvesting rates for keratin/chitin, which you need vast quantities of for end game stuff like metal walls and behemoth gates.
Our town is becoming electrified, slowly but surely. We have a pen for our megalodons, which the most resource efficient technique we figured out was simply using four behemoth gates to make a square, since they are so tall.
I'm curious if the game has gotten more optimization options and performance increases, as I'm hesitant to but the game if it'll be laggy. Also, is single player enjoyable? Like, does the world feel empty without the presence of other players, or is it fun enough without them? I'm asking because my Internet is pretty trashy, and I would spend a decent amount of time disconnecting from servers and getting killed from lag. The game seems to have a lot to do even in alpha, and I wouldn't mind a game that gives me a break from 40k and let's me play something else entirely for a change.
Single player is fine, although interacting with other players is a fun part of the game. And having a buddy is really helpful.
As far as stuff to do, there is plenty for a single person. Its much like Minecraft in that respect. You can just build and tame stuff and explore the island. The construction system is really dynamic and intuitive, although you need some trial and error to figure it out. Of course, playing with people is nicer than not, if you like that sort of thing.
Playing on a LAN or a private server is definitely better than the public servers as far as lag goes. Less traffic, and the people are nicer.
And you WILL get addicted to the game.
My only complaint is that night lasts too long. its a realistically proportioned night/day cycle, although a patch is coming that will let you alter the ratio, and night time is scary as all hell. Even when I'm lvl41 and have raptor bodyguards I don't go out at night.
And unfortunately there isn't in-game Gamma adjustment yet. With the gamma up you could still do stuff at night, but then you'd be blinded during the day. I suppose its realistic in that respect. You really gotta cower in your little hut at night and pray you survive till morning. Cause big predators WILL try and break into your house if they find you.
Ok, that clears some things up. I could probably try and manage to get into a private server seeking some new blood or something, because none of my friends have the game, or even plan on getting it, sadly. Dinosaur games have always caught my eye, and one that let's me get a pet T Rex is fantastic, even if I will probably die a lot trying to tame the thing.
And unfortunately there isn't in-game Gamma adjustment yet. With the gamma up you could still do stuff at night, but then you'd be blinded during the day.
Weeeeelllllll *don't click the spoiler unless you want to lose some immersion
Spoiler:
Hit tab. Type gamma 4. Profit. Default is 2.2 so when the sun comes up Tab and type gamma 2.2
Got my own dinosaur today. My brother was already riding around on a Raptor named Sir Reginald the Third, our mutual friend was riding around on a pair of Parasaurs named Butterscotch and Butterscotch the 2nd, while I am now the proud owner of a Trike named Lord Horatio DeSilva.
We also decided to move away from the coastal area and more inland, spending most of the evening working on building a bridge towards a smaller raised area from which we'll build a new house and pen for the dino's, with those big doors keeping the rest of the rabble out.
Grey Templar wrote: Raptors are tough. Only takes a few tranqs to knock them out but they're fast and hard to hit.
And you need to lvl their health up too.
I always build some little 2 story towers for raptor shooting. Or find a nice cliff.
Raptor hunting was stressful. I hate hate the turtles now. They have a walk that sounds like something running so I would keep looking around me thinking that I was being jumped by a raptor, but it was just a turtle. Freaked the hell out of me one time I turned around and the turtle was starring right at me. I did finally get a raptor though. Named him sparky and almost lost them in the last leg home to to a fish. (It was kind of a long track back to base, but I was smart and had a saddle so I could ride them rather then have them follow) Your right about their health being low. I think I will level that up the most. He is quite brisk though a real good mount.
I just caught a flying dino. It had landed in my base and I thought why not. It only took one arrow to fall over and now she is mine. I don't have a saddle for her yet, so I just have her idling for exprence
I got this myself, been playing strictly single player since I don't feel like playing with sociopaths that'll constantly murder me in my sleep and prevent me from making any progress whatsoever (or capture me and render me unable to really play the game at all). PvP in this game sounds like a joke, having people stay online 24/7 in games doesn't work and from what I can see in the reviews it's putting a lot of people off the game.
Surprised at just how awful my framerate is, I have 16GB of RAM and a 2GB video card, have the graphics turned down so low that the game looks like utter garbage compared to other, older games I've been able to run beautifully, and I'd be surprised if I'm even getting 30fps right now. I have an old PC and I know I need a new one, but seriously, this is ridiculous. I don't see any reason why this game runs so poorly. Does everyone get gakky framerates like this? I've seen people with $700 GTX980's in their machines still not being able to get more than 30fps, like it just caps there.
I know, Early Access, and optimization is probably one of the last things they're going to get around to doing. They just keep adding more dinos right now.
I've found a pretty decent spot on the beach I've been able to build a house on, haven't had anything really dangerous spawn close to me yet (couple of spinosaurs roaming around nearby but they're a ways off on the other side of a cliff, would be surprised if they roamed that far), the raptors seem to be on the beach across a large body of water or deep into the forest on my other side so I haven't been jumped yet, plenty of wood and berries nearby, don't have to go too far to find dodos or fish and there's a few supply drops within walking distance even. I've managed to build a two-story house entirely out of wood so far. Tried to tame a raptor (I went looking for one, lol) but I apparently greatly underestimated how many supplies I would need to accomplish that; didn't have nearly enough narcoberries/narcotics or raw meat on me to do it successfully, so I just killed the damn thing for meat. I guess dilos are more "accessible" but I wanted something ride-able that can also help me hunt, and didn't want too many mouths to feed, either.
There's plenty of fun to be had playing solo I guess, just exploring the island, building your house up, that kinda thing, but I do kinda wish I had a group to play with because it does feel a tad "empty" sometimes. And I feel like there's a lot of things you just can't do solo...trying to tame the larger dinosaurs for example, especially carnivores, would require so many resources that I'm not sure one person actually could gather them all (like hundreds of berries and meat, HUNDREDS, and several HOURS standing around waiting for the thing to tame). Taming a carnotaur or even a t-rex seems out of the question, and I'm not even sure how the hell I could knock one out honestly, or kill one if I had to, when the strongest thing I have is a bow. You need a group to get to end-game content too, and to kill the "bosses" apparently.
It is indeed supposed to come out for the xbox and playstation, but only at release - so next summer.
As far as your situation Sid - why don't you play on a PVE server?
Other players and their dinos cannot harm you, your structures or your dinos. The only form of griefing available on PVE servers is locking down large areas with structures (can't block off caves, though) and sneaking into your house to steal if you leave the door open. Since storage containers can be pin coded, even that isn't that big of a deal (you only have to enter the pin code once so it's not even that big of an inconvenience for you).
Yeah, you just gotta find the right servers. And try and stay off the official servers as they're full of buttheads. Find a nice private server. There will be less people and generally nicer people too, if you find one that has an active admin who cares.
I really like the one I found. its PvE during the week and PvP on the weekend. And the XP rates and difficulty are turned up.
Sidstyler wrote: I got this myself, been playing strictly single player since I don't feel like playing with sociopaths that'll constantly murder me in my sleep and prevent me from making any progress whatsoever (or capture me and render me unable to really play the game at all). PvP in this game sounds like a joke, having people stay online 24/7 in games doesn't work and from what I can see in the reviews it's putting a lot of people off the game.
Surprised at just how awful my framerate is, I have 16GB of RAM and a 2GB video card, have the graphics turned down so low that the game looks like utter garbage compared to other, older games I've been able to run beautifully, and I'd be surprised if I'm even getting 30fps right now. I have an old PC and I know I need a new one, but seriously, this is ridiculous. I don't see any reason why this game runs so poorly. Does everyone get gakky framerates like this? I've seen people with $700 GTX980's in their machines still not being able to get more than 30fps, like it just caps there.
I know, Early Access, and optimization is probably one of the last things they're going to get around to doing. They just keep adding more dinos right now.
I've found a pretty decent spot on the beach I've been able to build a house on, haven't had anything really dangerous spawn close to me yet (couple of spinosaurs roaming around nearby but they're a ways off on the other side of a cliff, would be surprised if they roamed that far), the raptors seem to be on the beach across a large body of water or deep into the forest on my other side so I haven't been jumped yet, plenty of wood and berries nearby, don't have to go too far to find dodos or fish and there's a few supply drops within walking distance even. I've managed to build a two-story house entirely out of wood so far. Tried to tame a raptor (I went looking for one, lol) but I apparently greatly underestimated how many supplies I would need to accomplish that; didn't have nearly enough narcoberries/narcotics or raw meat on me to do it successfully, so I just killed the damn thing for meat. I guess dilos are more "accessible" but I wanted something ride-able that can also help me hunt, and didn't want too many mouths to feed, either.
There's plenty of fun to be had playing solo I guess, just exploring the island, building your house up, that kinda thing, but I do kinda wish I had a group to play with because it does feel a tad "empty" sometimes. And I feel like there's a lot of things you just can't do solo...trying to tame the larger dinosaurs for example, especially carnivores, would require so many resources that I'm not sure one person actually could gather them all (like hundreds of berries and meat, HUNDREDS, and several HOURS standing around waiting for the thing to tame). Taming a carnotaur or even a t-rex seems out of the question, and I'm not even sure how the hell I could knock one out honestly, or kill one if I had to, when the strongest thing I have is a bow. You need a group to get to end-game content too, and to kill the "bosses" apparently.
Optimization is a issue, and I don't see it getting better. They have put out several optimization patches, but my frames are still about the same. (20-30 on med) I don't know if it can be optimized because it's a big open game with long vistas and a lot of bells and whistles. (No god the lighting is complex. You see the sun reflect off wet dirt.)
Oh I am surprised we don't have a dakka dakka server for this game yet?
Yeah, I thought about PvE servers, but my thinking originally was playing in single player just to learn the game first. I wasn't even sure if the game was going to run when I first bought it. I'd love to see this game with everything turned up to "Epic" but I'm not sure if it's worth investing like $3,000 into a new computer, soooo...
Best chance at running it at optimal settings at this point is to set the game aside for a couple of months and return then when they've shat out two dozen patches fixing this and that.
Yeah, I thought about PvE servers, but my thinking originally was playing in single player just to learn the game first. I wasn't even sure if the game was going to run when I first bought it. I'd love to see this game with everything turned up to "Epic" but I'm not sure if it's worth investing like $3,000 into a new computer, soooo...
Really the only thing you need to run the game better is a graphics card. Its not that taxing on other areas. As long your computer is less than 5 years old it should run it ok. And a good middle of the road graphics card isn't too expensive by itself. No need for an entirely new computer unless its a decade old clunker.
I got it and can barely play it with a radeon HD 6570. Got the fps to a level I can play at tho so meh. I may look into getting a better card but I may need a bigger PSU too.
Been playing in singleplayer after I got griefed in pvp and spawntrapped in a house in a pve servers. Got to level 10 now and have 3 dilo's. Something like level 5, 6 and 22. Been trying to keep them away from larger preds.
I made my house along the coast between spawns west 1 and west 2. Usually just dilo to worry about at my shack and the forest above the cliff doesnt seem to get bigger preds.
Was following the river inlets and I climbed a massive stony cliff and looked at the rivers splitting off below. I spotted a spinosaur sail sticking out the water so I avoided that only to find a second one another 300metres up the river.
Have seen 3 carnotaurus in the forest near west 2 and the other rivers have a couple crocs too.
I pretty much can only explore east of my shack now. I may have to move at some stage too as the closer spinosaur is gradually being lured to me by fleeing parasaurs.
Maybe I can get like 3000 dilo's and send them enmasse to pile the spino. Doubt it tho. Its one hitting anything it catches so I assume its a high level one.
I'm struggling to get into this game. I'm early, level 7. i can't do anything. I spent who knows how long punching trees to build a pick, a hatchet and some spears, only to have a level 35 panther kill me from underneath the beach.
He proceeded to spawn camp me for 6 more deaths before I alt-f4ed.
Loaded back up, spend too much time getting my stuff back, only to be killed by a level 1 dilo.
Really, it's approaching refund time, which I want to avoid only because I've got a couple friends who have a blast playing.
streamdragon wrote: I'm struggling to get into this game. I'm early, level 7. i can't do anything. I spent who knows how long punching trees to build a pick, a hatchet and some spears, only to have a level 35 panther kill me from underneath the beach.
He proceeded to spawn camp me for 6 more deaths before I alt-f4ed.
Loaded back up, spend too much time getting my stuff back, only to be killed by a level 1 dilo.
Really, it's approaching refund time, which I want to avoid only because I've got a couple friends who have a blast playing.
How did a cat find you on the beach? That is no where close to where they spawn. The dilo's can be tricky the first few times you fight them, but once you learn how to side step the spit you can basically bounce them back with your fists.
It's going to take you a bit to really get settled, you need to basically build a bed and start a base so you can build up your supplies rather then just resetting after each death. If your playing single player, you should also consider cheating. Increase your EXP rates, gather rates and taming speeds.
streamdragon wrote: I'm struggling to get into this game. I'm early, level 7. i can't do anything. I spent who knows how long punching trees to build a pick, a hatchet and some spears, only to have a level 35 panther kill me from underneath the beach.
He proceeded to spawn camp me for 6 more deaths before I alt-f4ed.
Loaded back up, spend too much time getting my stuff back, only to be killed by a level 1 dilo.
Really, it's approaching refund time, which I want to avoid only because I've got a couple friends who have a blast playing.
Why would you run back to where a saber is to get back some stone tools and spears? It seriously takes three minutes to go from naked on the beach to pants, pick and hatchet.
Guys, even playing single player there is no point getting attached to anything before you are able to start building out of wood at the very least. And frankly, single player in this is awful and aside from testing mechanics or whatever I do not recommend it at all.
streamdragon wrote: I'm struggling to get into this game. I'm early, level 7. i can't do anything. I spent who knows how long punching trees to build a pick, a hatchet and some spears, only to have a level 35 panther kill me from underneath the beach.
He proceeded to spawn camp me for 6 more deaths before I alt-f4ed.
Loaded back up, spend too much time getting my stuff back, only to be killed by a level 1 dilo.
Really, it's approaching refund time, which I want to avoid only because I've got a couple friends who have a blast playing.
How did a cat find you on the beach? That is no where close to where they spawn. The dilo's can be tricky the first few times you fight them, but once you learn how to side step the spit you can basically bounce them back with your fists.
It's going to take you a bit to really get settled, you need to basically build a bed and start a base so you can build up your supplies rather then just resetting after each death. If your playing single player, you should also consider cheating. Increase your EXP rates, gather rates and taming speeds.
North beaches sometimes have Sabres on them. Try a nice south beach.
And this is definitely a grindy game. Took me a solid 100+ hours to get situated. But its worth it. Nothing like running about on a Spino killing everything
Disaster on my singleplayer character. I had got my dilo army up to 5 and leveled them abit whie filling them up with 30+ meat each. I came back to base to deposit a couple stacks of hide and fibres, only to attack a dodo that was in the way. My dilo were on attack my target and killed it easy.
Then I notice the battle music is still playing so I quickly glance around expecting a dilo or raptor to be approaching. NOPE! I have a bloody bronto coming at me from a couple hundred metres away.
It tailswipes me breaking my legs and killing 2 dilo instantly. I try to crawl away as it steps on and kills a 3rd. I try to hide behind a nearby rock but another tailswipe finishes me. The respawn map appears followed shortly by the message the final 2 dilo were killed.
Middle of taming my 2nd Spino. the PvP weekend went as well as could be expected. Only had one attack in which i lost 2 of my Carnos, and my Argant.
But the turret is operational and soon we will have metal walls. Also raided a few people, including some duchebags who killed me and took my gear(including my new assault rifle) when i was out looking for turtles on a 4x resource event. Killed their Rex, Stego, and Anklyo. Took their resources, and dumped their raptors in the ocean with my Argant! And got my gun back too. Spino are OP.
nomotog wrote:How did a cat find you on the beach? That is no where close to where they spawn. The dilo's can be tricky the first few times you fight them, but once you learn how to side step the spit you can basically bounce them back with your fists.
It's going to take you a bit to really get settled, you need to basically build a bed and start a base so you can build up your supplies rather then just resetting after each death. If your playing single player, you should also consider cheating. Increase your EXP rates, gather rates and taming speeds.
Like someone said, north beach. I would also hope they don't spawn UNDER the sand normally. If the game didn't tell me what killed me, I would have no idea why I died.
Bromsy wrote:Why would you run back to where a saber is to get back some stone tools and spears? It seriously takes three minutes to go from naked on the beach to pants, pick and hatchet.
Guys, even playing single player there is no point getting attached to anything before you are able to start building out of wood at the very least. And frankly, single player in this is awful and aside from testing mechanics or whatever I do not recommend it at all.
Guess I wasn't clear. I was referring to getting my pick, hatchet, spears, campfire and thatch housing remade. Not getting to my old ones, since I didn't really fancy tangling with a level 35 cat again.
I can't even make a bedroll yet because that would require hide I don't have. What's the best source early on? I've tried taking on a level 3 turtle-thing at level 7. Threw a dozen spears into his face, beat him a couple times with a hatchet and he still killed the crap outta me.
nomotog wrote:How did a cat find you on the beach? That is no where close to where they spawn. The dilo's can be tricky the first few times you fight them, but once you learn how to side step the spit you can basically bounce them back with your fists.
It's going to take you a bit to really get settled, you need to basically build a bed and start a base so you can build up your supplies rather then just resetting after each death. If your playing single player, you should also consider cheating. Increase your EXP rates, gather rates and taming speeds.
Like someone said, north beach. I would also hope they don't spawn UNDER the sand normally. If the game didn't tell me what killed me, I would have no idea why I died.
Bromsy wrote:Why would you run back to where a saber is to get back some stone tools and spears? It seriously takes three minutes to go from naked on the beach to pants, pick and hatchet.
Guys, even playing single player there is no point getting attached to anything before you are able to start building out of wood at the very least. And frankly, single player in this is awful and aside from testing mechanics or whatever I do not recommend it at all.
Guess I wasn't clear. I was referring to getting my pick, hatchet, spears, campfire and thatch housing remade. Not getting to my old ones, since I didn't really fancy tangling with a level 35 cat again.
I can't even make a bedroll yet because that would require hide I don't have. What's the best source early on? I've tried taking on a level 3 turtle-thing at level 7. Threw a dozen spears into his face, beat him a couple times with a hatchet and he still killed the crap outta me.
Dodos and dilos. Turtles are tanky as hell, don't waste your time until you are higher level or have a raptor to ride.
- and make sure you are harvesting the bodies with your hatchet, that gets better hide percentages.
Dodos and Dilos are what you get hide from early on. You can get about 3-5 from each.
And don't bother making a sleeping bag. Learn the engram only so you can learn the bed later. Its only a little bit more hide and you can use it more than once.
The goal is to get to at least where you can make tranq arrows. Once you have those you can tame anything, along with the help of a cliff. I would make it a goal to tame a Stego, get its saddle, and them either a Carno or 2-3 raptors. Find some that are at the bottom of a cliff so you can shoot them without them getting to you. Then you need to keep them unconscious with narcotics.
While it doesn't save you any time, the Starving method does have advantages. 1) It means less time spent traveling back and forth between sources of meat and your downed carnivore. You can stay there and protect it from any other dinos. 2) if you do lose the dino you will only have lost the narcotics you fed it and not all the meat too. 3) it will tame all at once so you won't waste as much food.
I also recommend keeping any tamed dinos with an AOE attack(stego, anklyo, etc) away from your taming dino. If you get attacked their attacks against the attacker will hit the taming dino too.
Once you have a rideable carnivore, meat and hide will never be a problem again. You'll have so much you'll have to regularly dump it for inventory space.
The Raptor is the earliest mount IIRC, so try and get one. As a plus, there is little that a pack of leveled up raptors can't handle. 3 with ~1200 health and ~300% can take on any Trex with confidance.
Bromsy wrote:Dodos and dilos. Turtles are tanky as hell, don't waste your time until you are higher level or have a raptor to ride.
- and make sure you are harvesting the bodies with your hatchet, that gets better hide percentages.
Grey Templar wrote:Dodos and Dilos are what you get hide from early on. You can get about 3-5 from each.
Cool. Guess I'll give it another go tonight. My friends are crazy far along, but I didn't want to just jump into the deep end where I miss half the game. Did that in Terraria where my friends and I would start a server, I'd go to work and come home to find demons and bat wings and machine guns and stuff. Sort of felt like missing the point to me.
Yesterday my brother and his friend went "spelunking", their description for heading into a snake, bat and monster infested cave for funsies. The end result.. two dead raptors, seven deaths between the two of them and I don't know if it was worth it, but listening to them lose their gak over Skype while I was safely tucked away at basecamp was priceless.
Beginning Taming effectiveness is determined by how much damage you inflicted on the creature to knock it out. Each bite the creature takes(which it takes when it dips down 50 pts for carnivores and 30 for herbivores) reduces the taming effectiveness by some amount. Damage it takes while unconscious will also reduce it. This is why using a scorpion is best as they inflict the least damage/torpor ratio of all methods. You can use this to begin with 99% effectiveness.
Starving it just makes it eat a bunch in rapid succession. It doesn't take any quicker because its food will go down at the same rate either way. But it does let you save running around. Especially with prime meat that spoils quickly so you want it to eat it immediately. Its also better for a dangerous area, that way you don't lose all the meat/berries you collected if it dies, just any narcotics you used to keep it down. You only have to make a few trips to harvest meat instead of collecting 1 prime every 2.5 minutes.
Prime meat hurts taming effectiveness less because it makes the taming bar go up 4 times as much as raw meat. Meaning it takes less bites to tame, and therefore less times for the TE to decrease. the same with feeding a herbivore its preferred berry.
Cooked prime is also more effective than regular raw. Just 2x instead of 4x.
Tried again last night. Found a nice place in Southern Islets with low level dodos, built myself a hut. Bagged a few birds.
Then got annihilated by a level 35 croc looking thing that came out of nowhere and proceeded to track me after each respawn, like I was in some sort of horror movie.
I'm assuming it was bugged, since it probably should have dropped my agro when it killed me the first time, instead of chasing my respawn repeatedly.
After talking with one of my friends, apparently they've cranked the difficulty on that server up. It's been a steady group playing, so they're all higher level and well equipped and so on. Not really "new-player" friendly I guess.
I am on Patriclus's Ark Server. Its an awesome server, but we're basically full at the moment. Difficulty is cranked way up and there is a lot of tweaking going on with the settings. Unfortunately the devs haven't finished this yet and its led to some wonky things.
We have tamed dino damage down to 10% of normal, player damage has also been toned way down(like 15% of normal). And our tame dinos are STILL one shotting a lot of wilds.
We're merrily chugging away on a private server ourselves, having finally found a suitable mining location with plenty of metal, flint and whatnot, I have become the Bullet Farmer..
Also, fething pissing gak. We had a fridge full of blood bags, well over seventy of them and as of the last update, all gone. So much for being the Organic Mechanic.
Decided to say today and just use my rifle for hunting and whatnot, much to the annoyance of my brother. It does however make the hunting of paras and those giant rats easier, with a single shot to the head dropping them in one shot. Plus, a gun is meant to be used, not kept in a supply crate because bullets are expensive, fething hell man!
Also, my brother is taming a T-Rex right now, they can't craft a saddle for it yet, so they're keeping it penned in for the time being.
Honestly I wouldn't bother with guns till you can make advanced pistols/assault rifles. Their ammo is way cheaper. Advanced pistol ammo is half the cost of simple bullet ammo and you get 2 rounds instead of 1. Advanced rifle ammo is 3 less gunpowder, 1 more metal, and you get 2 rounds as well.
It's be interesting if the mod can integrate weapons or something from 40k, or maybe power armor? It isn't lore friendly at all, unless it explains it like:
You got messed up in the warp and are on a planet nowhere near any faction, and the only link to home are the random supply drops of other things getting thrown here from the warp.
Actually no, I haven't. I've been wanting to watch practically anything involving Aliens or Predators (including AvP), but it hasn't been going the greatest. Anyway, I hope the guy develops the mod into something that can really integrate 40k into it, AFAIK its just a SM helmet currently
I am having such a blast with this game. I have been playing SP just to get the hang of things before I go and try a PVE server. I am trying to get my friends to play but I am hoping my gaming community picks it up too.
Is there a release date for the console editions? I have a feeling I would have more fun on my Xbox one as there would be less lag and I would have more of a chance to get friends to play it.
2BlackJack1 wrote: Is there a release date for the console editions? I have a feeling I would have more fun on my Xbox one as there would be less lag and I would have more of a chance to get friends to play it.
Like a year or more. It's not even close to being done, or optimized well we are at it.
That's a shame, but either way I'm going to end up waiting; either for more optimization for my PC (which will come sooner, but my comp still may not like it) or for it to come out for console.
2BlackJack1 wrote: Is there a release date for the console editions? I have a feeling I would have more fun on my Xbox one as there would be less lag and I would have more of a chance to get friends to play it.
Like a year or more. It's not even close to being done, or optimized well we are at it.
A year till it enters Beta is what I hear. Remember is still in Alpha.
They added in some new stuff recently, including a crossbow, pump-action shotgun and various traps. Had a go with the crossbow myself, when paired with tranq-arrows it works amazingly well.
We play a few hours every few nights or so, which usually breaks down to me stuck on a cold mountain mining metal while my brother and his friend go explore caves, tame all sorts of dinosaurs and build all the cool stuff.
Though the menagerie continues to grow: we've got one Dodo, two dilos, a Para, a Trike, a Stego, a Bronto, a Carno, five Raptors, two T-Rex, a Spino, three Ptero's, three of those birds, three dolphins and two Mega's. I personally tamed a Ankylo, named it FRANK THE TANK and use it for my mining trips, most excellent!
Oh man, these Alpha dinos are lending a much needed edge of danger to PVE servers. I watched one eat it's way into and through a guy's entire base while three of us strafed it on argents. A level 12.
Oh, and spikes in PVE are pointless, it used them as a stepladder to get over his walls, as far as we could tell it didn't get hurt by 'em at all.
Took out one with a primitive bow and stone arrows. In fact I took time to prepare for it. For the Alpha raptor was caught in a abandon fort on North 2 location on the beach....close to my second FOB which I am building to process metal ore...also a good oil node there and lot's of trib....but I digress....200+ arrows to take him out....Twelve meat and one prime meat.
I stopped the engram learning and letting those points build for the supply pods are giving me lots of blue prints and gear
I figure I would have two FOB's per grid square I'm pretty much left alone PvP because I gave good advice on how to wreck the Chinese tribe who were killing everyone dino. Never have a main base in a tunnel system
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Its using the momentum bug to get over objects. I use the same bug to when I run empty
Had a beach party on death island(Northeast) on our server last night, guys set up a dance floor and everything.
We had a pig race (I know, they're actually proto elephants) which I sort of won - lost to the host's level 152 leveled for speed, but they weren't competing for the prize, so I got a level 69 mammoth out of the deal. Then everyone parachuted naked into the cave and had to try and run out. Three made it out of fifteen or so. It was really cool and a good group bonding deal for our server.
I have been playing the crap out of this game, this game really makes the survival genre shine. the devs have been doing an awesome job with the updates keeping the game fresh and new and filling in some of the gaps but still making the game a challenge.
The people on my server are pretty sweet. i was helped a bit early a couple of times with early saddles for things i tamed which has made live and survival a bit easier, i still die to ants or the occasional t-rex or spino.
i hope they tweak building snap points a bit, trying elaborate building starts to get a bit wonky and things stop lining up right. i also think bear traps could use a bit of fixing, maybe have the option to put bait on it to lure stuff over to get caught for taming.
Did my first full kibble tame today, got a level 166 argentavis. Glitched out and took me an hour or so to finesse it back home, but got it done in the end.
There's also that yeah, though we've established a mining camp on top of a mountain for iron and crystals. It's cold as feth though, no matter what we wear and how many fires we stoke. Not to mention the best way to get there is by flying.
I've found the best thing to do is have two argants leveled for carrying capacity to do mining trips. They can fill one forge per trip and you can get away with only one to two stacks of meat for yourself. Curry and Chili help too.
I just thought that the spot is a bit too easily defended, i play on a pve server so the only thing i have to worry about is something aggroing the bridge and taking it out.
With the addition of the alpha dinos, it is pretty nice being able to have spinos or Trex go right by without having to care.
The first thing I plan on doing once I get this game is get a decent army of the spitting dinos (dilos-?). Even if they aren't effective it would be cool to have my own retinue of archers.
The Dilo's spitting blinds players and dinos but really only has an effect on an unmounted player. It does slow as well so that might be useful with a pack of Dilos and some Raptors for base protection but both are still relatively weak.
They might work in a large pack but I easily kill groups of 6 or 7 with my carno, aoe attacks from Trikes, Stegs or Brontos would make short work of them.
Scorpions are very good if you have another dino to act as a tank, the scorpion's sting does low damage but knocks stuff out really fast.
Yeah, Dilos are almost worthless once you get established with only one exception. Due to how T-rex are built they can't attack anything at their exact feet so Dilos can actually take them on, potentially. But you'll most likely just lose your Dilos.
Seems one tribe like my idea on placing 1K stone bounties on the other tribe members.....
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Jebus. I have to track the days. Like every four days I have predators on my beach.
Yesterday was "farming" day on hide and chitin.
Five Scorps
Six Sabers
Four damn assorted birds
A Carno
Not including skinning the dead leaf eaters (made a few prime jerky)
That was before I made it to the halfway point to my second "FOB"
Carnos are such fun to have, just tamed my second which was 112 before the tame. Sadly though, while gathering berries on my one trike a 116 carno attacked and had to be put down.
One or two people on my server have managed to tame the Apes, apparently it's a PITA. I was too busy being enthused by the new SCUBA gear... that stuff is the business.
So, after a few nice updates I've been working on shipbuilding and bronto bases and stuff. Rebuilt the main crafting/cooking/storage structures in my base into a single better designed stone structure with more room to expand.
Then the devs released the new digest, detailing their plans for the new biomes coming out on Friday, with the warning that structures that don't conform to the new areas ( probably all of them in the area) will be destroyed, so you should move out.
Spoiler:
The peninsula on the east coast of the island is my tribal base. The whole thing. Been building since like day two. Move by Friday.
Holy crap resource gathering in the giant eastern swamp is nuts. Just walking through it on my bronto I got 7500 thatch, 370 rare flowers, 60 odd rare mushrooms, a 1000 or so wood, and 70 of the species x seeds.
Frogs are extra OP when riding a dino, a they hit the rider with stun damage trying to knock them off.
This actually caused me to fall through the world and spawn on top of the world, fall right back down and die of fall damage, reminding me this game really is a beta
Ok I am ready to admit that my boat base Idea isn't working. I lost my second boat because of some creature that was on it when I re-spawned. I might just have to go back to building a normal base and using the boat for transport.
Yeah, for the first time in a while I was happy that I had 36 points in fortitude. I was knocking three of em out at once, and they all went down before they could knock me out. I went down for a few seconds after, but I was right back up.
Well,,,on Officialserver 309......I am the only remaining Exodus Knight left....maybe one more....
Chinese went nuts on the raids with Hacks, demolish majority of members bases and other tribes bases....
Not me being I spread myself out and limit myself to tames that I need....
Got rid of the Megadon being Tribolites are spawning close to shore...so one swipe I get 300-400 chitins..
Good portion of members bases was on Red now Blue Mountain in the the new Bio so wipe
So right now my bases....Seashore FoB1, Cliffside Fob2, Armory and Fort Apache that are mine are North but not in the Siberian Bio are good to go and ready for whatever....I only lost a workstation (stone structure with mortar and pestle and a bed) got nailed on the Sand Bar
So far I have completed the Farm building with 10 large plots just need to hook up the irrigation
Turning a major base into a kill box for raiders (Chinese) which they are now leaving me alone due to VAC) but one attempt on them funnel them into the kill hall with behind a metal wall window with a RPG and IED's spread behind storage boxes....
So um......anyone want to join me on the server I have facilities to assist and gear.....
I have to pull Dark Side Operations into the Siberian Bio to snag obsidian....
Building a Kill Room with a empty Vault and filled with Dire Wolves.....sides metal...stone ceiling....with two layers of wooden ceiling...
Also a few more honey comb two stacks building metal sides...Ceiling stone...with wooden spikes.....Raiders drop grenades to take out the spikes and then drop on roof and demo the ceiling and they jump down without looking into a comb....so starve to death or blow themselves up....
I'm turning into ISAF of Ark damn near......FoB's KoP'....I'm paying 500 stones for billboards to painted for me....
So.....feel free to visit me....I'm North Zone
I tamed a spino. It was right outside my base and got stuck on a hill. Can't ride it though way to low a level for the saddle, so now it's just sitting outside my base. I hope it doesn't randomly die. Lots of dangers come from the swamp.
Grey Templar wrote: Have it follow you around as a pack animal. They have decent carry capacity. And it'll level up a bit before you can get a saddle.
Of course you could always buy a saddle off another player
I am worried that it will get stuck of lost if I take it out with me. Then what about if I wander into a rex or carno. I kind of wish they would revamp the pathfinding and dino controls to help that.
Aslo I am playing single player so can't buy a saddle.
oh, anyway Spinos actually have pretty good pathfinding and unlike rexes aren't likely to get stuck on rocks because they can actually climb. Plus tame dinos get significant benefits over wild ones just by being tamed.
Anyone want to guess what happen to spiny. alpha raptor. I didn't expect that. I took him out for a walk saw him take down a t-rex, but then a little while latter a red raptor killed me and killed my spino. I ended up losing all the stuff on her too. Lots of oil pearls and animal parts. So now I am back down to just my trike farming narco to get some new tames. On the up side, I did build a tower out west and I'm on metal tier. I think I will saddle a flying creature to get around with.
Yeah, having a couple birds is very important. I use 2-3 Argants to go on mining trips. I usually build a smelting shack at the base of a mountain and then make several trips from the top to it with birds. Then once its all smelted I can carry the metal back to base(cuts weight in half too)
Heh, we use the same system, only they leave me on the mountain freezing my ass off mining for metals while they go spelunking. They check in every now and then with fuel, food and promises of a better life soon...
Argents can have good carrying capacity, as well. Have an argent I tamed at level 72 (our level cap is 120, which is higher than normal) that has 500 weight by now with her level in the nineties.
I think its because they just get killed a lot. I see them just about anywhere, but never in numbers because I think they just get eaten by all the predators.
As another aside, it feels like mammals have been made a lot stronger than anything else. Wolves, for example, are absolutely broken, able to destroy anything else with ease. And that's solo. With a pack, they're pretty much unbeatable.. Sabertooths are almost as powerful (and can stand up to single wolves if they have a saddle). Carnosaurs got nerfed to hell and are a lot weaker than they used to be, more fragile and with less stamina. Spinos are really not worth the effort it takes, even moreso than Carnos-- they're really the least dangerous of the big carnivores, even raptors are more dangerous to players than Spinos are, Raptors can't stand up to either of the mid-sized mammal mounts, and even Megalocerous are generally a better combat mount than raptors really-- they're mostly only good as scouts (but flying mounts make far superior scouts). Paracers are quite a bit more dangerous to players than Brontos are unless you're attacking with a pack of animals, and more generally useful as they're a lot faster and you don't kill yourself hopping off their backs. Mammoths are the most useful combat-wise of the large herbivores, though they don't yet have a platform saddle (don't think they will get one either). Of the mammals, only Phiomias are kind of useless, except as a plentiful source of meat (Paracers are also a plentiful source of meat, but far more dangerous to harvest).
Rexes are about the last of the combat saurids that seem particularly strong still.
I think there might be some artificial skew of strength due to hit boxes, and all the carnivorous mammals are small. With a wolf I can get under a Rex/spino/bronto's attacks and not take the full force. And then easily rip them up. Same reason why it can take a wild Rex five minutes to kill a wild raptor.
I think the large animals could use a huge increase in hit points.Like make brontos be 10,000 hHP base.
Tamed animals are too strong in general too. They have much more favorable modifiers than wild ones have.
Spinos aren't worth the effort? Can you explain a bit more? My spino is my go to ride and do it all dino. Every lvl he's gone up just wrecks more face. So just curious where you're coming from on this.
Might depend on the server modifiers. Spines are IMO worth it for the faster movement and not getting stuck on rocks. But rexes are easier and stronger.
Grey Templar wrote: With a wolf I can get under a Rex/spino/bronto's attacks and not take the full force.
You don't even need to. Dire Wolves are utterly broken. Even top of the line fur armor (what you'll be wearing in their locations) will be shredded in seconds by a good leveled dire wolf, or a mid-low level one with pack bonuses. They're leagues above things like raptors or carnosaurs, and even if you aren't avoiding its attacks, a trained pack of 3 dire wolves will turn a t-rex into a pile of dino meat rapidly. They'll tear alpha raptors as if they're nothing, and kill alpha carnosaurs with few losses. Alpha rex might be able to handle them with the aoe of its bite... maybe.
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Grey Templar wrote: Might depend on the server modifiers. Spines are IMO worth it for the faster movement and not getting stuck on rocks. But rexes are easier and stronger.
IIRC, Carnos are faster on land, do more damage, smaller, and have equivalent health to a Spino, but the Spino can actually move in water worth a damn. Could be wrong though. Rexes are more durable and with massively better offense, but turn very slowly. Mostly though, for the effort it takes to get a spino trained, I've found it just doesn't ever impress in combat compared to a carno or rex.
I find that Spinos and Rexes are fairly even with each other. The Rex goes through trees better but gets stuck on rocks more, his damage is a bit more but he attacks slower. Rexes also turn way faster than a Spino.
The Spino is great on land if you bite your way through all of the trees, rocks you go right over. Turning is a pain, you have to sprint away and line your attacks up or back up. The Spino has the swimming ability which is really handy.
The Carno is quick, maneuverable and does nice damage but the stam drains so quick.
I have yet to find anything to put up a fight with my Spino, even 6 Brontos at once did nothing to it. I have taken more damage from jumping off the volcano than anything in the game.
I lost a 180 Carno taming my Spino and it is vastly superior.
I don't find that tamed rexes attack very slow at all, at least one attack per second, and they do a ton more damage per hit-- eighty base for rexes, 50 for spinos, which means not only is it doing more damage base per hit, it also grows far faster (wild rexes grow by +3 damage / level, wild spinos by +2.5; tamed, both grow by 10%). Assuming the wiki is rigth-- I think Rexes got their damage buffed, actually.
I have the opposite experience. Spinos are nothing more than targets, even my argentavis can take on a higher level spino with ease-- granted, she can kill rexes, too, but attacking a rex is far riskier than attacking a spino. In fact, they're so easy to kill that we basically just consider them free experience. They're so easy to kill I can kill them on foot without any risk to myself, really. Bugs are more dangerous than spinos.
Well, Wild Spinos are different from tamed ones. Tamed Spinos can easily have stats the same as rexes, and their higher mobility can give them an edge. Argants can attack the sail without getting into bite range, but thats tough to do correctly every time when attacking a spino with 40k+ hp, and 1-2 hits will total your bird.
I know you love the thing, but I seriously I don't think your spino can do 2000 damage per hit against an argentavis with a 33 armor saddle to total my bird in two hits-- and that's without taking in to account the fact that Argentavises take less damage from melee attacks to begin with. Just saying, you're vastly overestimating your favorite dino here.
And no, tamed spinos can't have similar stats to tamed rexes that have been trained similarly and are of similar level. If they both have 500% damage, the rex does at least 400 per bite, while the spino does around or above 250 damage per bite. The rex will have somewhere more than twice the health base of a spino, thus the per-level increase is larger as increasing stats on a tamed animal does it as a percentage. The Spino is also far lighter, and can be knocked back by the rex's hits, as well.
It's really not a contest as far as which one is the top dog in terms of dueling, the Spino will generally lose barring its rider being vastly more skilled. Granted, both of them will be torn apart by a pack of tamed dire wolves, but that's because dire wolves are fething broken as hell and need to be nerfed.
BrookM wrote: Does the new fur armour give you better protection against the cold?
Yes. Its also between leather and chiten in protection. Unless you only spend short periods in the snow fur is basically mandatory. It feels like they made the cold penalty stronger. You'll die family quickly without it.
Main issue is its freaking expensive. Takes soo many pelts.
I've been stuck on a cold mountain for a long, long time now, mining and refining metals for the others, while they do the nasty business of collecting artefacts. They have to content with fething bats, while my biggest worries are starvation and the ever present cold, the latter in particular is annoying when the forges aren't smelting, because they CBA to lay down some wiring for the AC unit.
I do really dislike that you can freeze/overheat to death while you are standing inside, wearing ideal clothing, and near a source of heat if applicable.
If its only 28 degrees F outside, I'm not going to die of hypothermia standing next to two roaring fires, holding a torch, and wearing full leather. It would have to be well below freezing for me to be in danger.
Deathklaat wrote: Just a correction, the Ark wiki states Rex base damage is 60. The Spino AoE attack is also much larger than that of a Rex.
I also play on a PvE server so really there is nothing my Spino has to worry about.
From the wiki:
"As of patch 173.0, the Base Damage for a Tyrannosaurus has been buffed from 50 to 80."
And I just checked patch notes all the way from current patch to 173-- that's the last time that Carno or Rex damage was touched.
"Base Carno damage buffed from 30 to 50, base Rex damage buffed from 50 to 80"
Yes, I go way too far to prove a point But basically, the wiki can be assumed to be wrong when it says its base damage is 60 without citation. Barring a freak occurance, the Rex will always out-damage the Spino, and will always have more health, and will always have more stamina to make attacks with to begin with (the stamina is the closest of the three stats, but the growth difference in wild Rexes is substantial enough that I can say this quite confidently)
oh cool I didn't know they buffed the Carno and the Rex, I might have skimmed over those patch notes as I usually see what is new vs what has changed.
I have been wanting to tame some more high level creatures and I will add the Carno and Rex to my list.
As a side comment, I hope they do a quality of life update to sorting. While being able to sort is a huge step in the right direction, having the inventory STAY sorted vs reverting back to the jumbled mess would be REALLY nice.
Mhm. I'm still kind of partial to carnos just because they don't stomp on enemies thus they don't 'cause flights of dimos to attack me randomly. But can't deny the rexes are the best straight up fighters.
The Carno is basically a stepping stone to getting the larger stuff. Because you need a lvled up carnivore to get lots of prime to get the best taming efficiency(assuming you aren't using kibble).
They're also relatively easy to tame, so you can get a pack fairly easily. Not a bad deterrent for a low level base.
I really dislike how Piranha attack everything now, at least before they left my spino alone but now they chase everything that goes in the water. I could see them hunting in packs and leaving big stuff alone if there are less than 3 or 5 but going solo vs something that is so much larger is dumb.
Heh, just raided some fools who left all their dinos on passive and a convenient stone gate which was the entrance to their all metal base. Made out like a bandit, tranqed all their dinos too and took the stuff they hid on them.
The new darts apply all of their tranq effect instantly, unlike the arrows which apply it over four seconds-- and, furthermore, has a larger effective tranq value because of how torpor drain.works.
So Mosasauruses and dino breeding are going to be added next week, Wednesday I think. That'll be interesting...
The new darts apply all of their tranq effect instantly, unlike the arrows which apply it over four seconds-- and, furthermore, has a larger effective tranq value because of how torpor drain.works.
So Mosasauruses and dino breeding are going to be added next week, Wednesday I think. That'll be interesting...
Yup, I need to tame a Quetzal now before the breeding goes in, because I get the feeling we are hitting cap immediately and it's gonna stay that way for a while.
Yeah. As it is, I'm sticking with Argentavises as my main air transport for goods. A small flight of high-level silver-birds can easily transport a substantial quantity of goods a considerable distance, while being considerably easier to tame than a quetzal.
Especially for servers where the levels reach in to the triple digit ranges...
She was disappointingly easy. Was five of us, two riding rexes, one riding a carno, the other two shooting with longneck rifles, and she... was less of a threat than an alpha carno.
Update's out-- Dino Breeding coding attempt #1 and Mosasauruses, as well as various balance issues such as a shotgun buff and the ability to sit on chairs and benches.
Someone said average of the parents. That's with Dilo's they had hatch
Most the time was spent trying to maintain a constant heat source....AC...think someone had five AC's going.
Then type of structure they were trying it in and after that tribes started the attempt to hatch eggs in different structures.
Think stone was the winner with 2 AC's and a campfire (sparkpowder)
It was interesting Global convo.....
Hey guys. The server I'm on is looking for more players. Only about 7 active players. Lots of open space available. And you get entered to win cool swag if you recruit anyone to the server too.
The server is called Alcarins24/7PvP5xTame2xGthr5xEXP
If you join, send me a PM with your steam and survivor name so I can get credit for you
My tribe is also recruiting. Look for House Stark led by Bobthebutcher.
My tribe relocated to 439 Official Server
VAC made a huge difference but since we were the only major tribe the Alliance had we decided to screw 309 over. We left and it killed the server. Think the highest I've seen on 309 is 7 peeps. That Alliance imploded on itself and the Chinese tribe killed off their former Allies
Grey...you need to feed your baby Rex more Lawyers and Greedy Business men
After all this time I got down to actually taming...so past two days....
At Hoth Taming Rebel Base.....I tamed a 14 female Mammoth and named her "Momma"
Pack of Dire Wolves I call my Brat Pack
Konan, 35 male
Allie, 31 female
Junior, 8 male
Beauty, 14 female
You can fit a mammoth on a ordinary raft....sideways....also they can swim really well and some serious stamina....some asshat had that shoulder flying lizard on roam and aggressive mode....damn thing hit like a US Drone. so Momma went for a swim and I had to go with her...then swim back and get the damn raft....Exodus Ship Hauler.....with support from Exodus Ship Aquaman
The Brat Pack I ran back to Mining Station Zebra at Far's Peak....from the Sand Bar at the waterfall in N3 (Hoth Taming Rebel Base. Just on the verge of crossing Snow Bio)
Along the way....28 Rex
4 Argent
5 Scorps
1 Carno
1 Sarco
3 Raptors
bugs......bugs...and more damn bugs
couple Dilo
Konan like shell fish...tribolite
with wings...Dodo
Momma went to Ananconda. Our base in the Swamp to build up that stockpile of wood and narco berries
Oh Momma like's bowling.....every chance she gets when there's a cluster of Dodo's she throws her tusks and the pins scatter.
So today We be building Dino Ranch Exodus a little bit North of Mining Station Zebra and Pearl Water Base. We do not build one base....we slowly expand out presence...
Ananconda
Mining Station Zebra
Solomon Mines
Our main FoBs
with.....
8 outposts...
Kill towers...
Besides...destroy one base we can still operate at maximum output Take us out in one shot....resources to accomplish that is insane
Funny thing is. No one has notice how far we expanded nor the number of outposts....actually....FoB's, CoP's and workstations we have
We finally got Southern Outpost FoB running with one recruit....Argent Quin is performing daily shipments of metal there....
We finally have a pair of Rex's but.....provisions for the baby rex is being stock pile right now.
Jihadin....SF of Exodus
Borg in effect.....13 active members....recruiting four more...decision to punt two inactive players to maintain our 15.......its....glorious....SPQR!!!!
lol, that's not very impressive for level 200s actually...
We have four 200+s. Just had some lower level ones caught for egg production, gotta get dat kibble after all.
Also a level 320 Ptera named Darth Rhodonite... that one's owner went absolutely apeshit when he managed to max out its level, was so excited lol. Was knocked unconscious at 120 and tamed with a ton of kibble, then had its post-tame level maxed out.
Its normal for rexes that were perfect tames. One is lvl201 and its tame level was 176. So its only had 25 lvls. And I immediately pump hp up to 15k and then work on damage before going back to leveling hp.
If a rex was lvl120ish after tame and its near the end of possible leveling yeah its gonna have more hp than 15k-35k.
And I don't think its possible to get to lvl320. I think the max is 280. Unless you made your server's taming cap higher.
Well yeah, if you don'tnpump the rex's hp up to at least 10k-15k, you're pretty muc hasking to lose that rex to an alpha carno.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Actually that's how we lost my first rex. My rex plus our really high level dire wolf attacked a level 106 alpha carno. The wolf was getting pounded on a lot, so I stepped up and got its attention, bit it a lot and knocked it away from the wolf while he fed it a ton of meat, then dived back in to combat. Then my rex got killed, and I ran off a ways and shot it with a longneck to help finish it off. The wolf managed to finish it with a sliver of health left, and we all gained like ten levels from that one fight heh.
I killed a lvl102 alpha xcarno the other day using just one Rex. I kept knocking it down a slope so it barely got any hits in. Level ground would have been a lot different. Jerk only had an apprentice axe, which I am swimming in. Seems that raptors have the best loot.
Argents are where it's at. I've soloed level 80 Alpha Rexes with an argent I kibble tamed from 116 pretty easily. It's like 214 now with 8200 health and 1300 melee. Straight up murder.
I also have a breeding pair of spinos that were tamed at 108 and bred at 168 so we'll see what I can get out of them.
Oh, and I have a 116 female mammoth with pretty awesome stats I just tamed that I need to get knocked up.
No doubt. My argent is my favorite dino at the moment, she's so versatile. Though, mine's less combat focused. She has a fair distribution of stats, with the exception of her speed which is ridiculously high.
Giganotosauruses are next, btw! Go bronto-sized theropoda!
To add on to my recruitment schpeal for my home server, the admin is offering a "starter pack" to all new players. Primitive iron tools and such to help you get started, and weekly dino giveaways to low level players. And if you recruit people to the server you get entered to win cool stuff(usually a journeyman item of choice).
We are also going to have a weekly Carno Island survivor event. You get no dinos, only what ever you can carry. Last man standing wins a cool prize. Custom dino skins, high level items of choice, etc...
Awesome. Zoned out three and a half hours into raising my two quetzals for about half an hour and they both died. Three or four fridges full of meat and two 12 hour incubations gone. This is totally fun.
I pretty much stopped playing Ark. I just go on to feed a few things every few days and reset PVE claim/demolish timers.
Got sick of the insane grind to do anything on the default settings of the official server I played with a small community of regulars. And didnt really enjoy private servers which felt empty and had a few people spawning stuff.
Wish I could just beam my 4 rex into a pillar on official and stop playing til release. The babies they added are a pisstake too. Most tedious thing Ive tried in a game in years.
We hatched twins (Ptar). Total scramble for more meat and the good thing was our "Dino Ranch Exodus" was by Pearl Water Base and we had a Mosa. Serious Megadon hunting. They do not eat PM. Then Scorpians got into the ranch by glitching over the walls and our two tamers went to kill them but the aggro range got close and the twins flew into the campfire and roosted themselves trying to assist in killing. Total surprise....so we added another line of walls and spikes further up hill to prevent that from happening again.
My server is still trying to recruit new members. Free set of metal tools to all new players. Weekly pvp competitions to win high level items and dino skins. Alcarinsarkserver. Come and join the fun.
Sound interesting Grey but we just went to war with the Chinese tribe. Since they have 200+ level Rex's and Quetz and all kinds of power house land dino's we took to the sea and turning tunnels into fortress's and running Insurgency tactics at them. Sea belongs to us. Ever seen a 200+ Rex running down a ravine and hitting Large bear traps and IED's.......while taking fire from RPG's....it was.......glorious
Aye.
Right now we're building up the metal structures to throw up a decent size harbor on NE island.
Throw a bunch of raft and two turrets and see what Eastern Federation (Chinese) do. Its a distraction while we claim the underwater cave down SE corner of Ark.
Thoough we did come across them taming a Mosa under water but declared in global we stay out the area till it was done and offered to help with PM to tame faster
Now we know the underwater metal structure they built was to contain one in pen
There are 3 main tribes, House Stark(We are located in the canyon where the Maw and Smuggler's pass meet), Getto Boyz(down on the Footpaw), and Supremacy(in the Grand Hills).
Supremacy is the strongest tribe for sure, but I'm on good terms with them.
Getto Boyz are the largest tribe. They have to have at least 18 rexes and spinos, plus they have around 5 active members.
House Stark. I got the best rexes, and probably the most defensive position.
I've done some thievery of some mining outposts, but never been caught. My biggest fear is that someone realizes my tribe only has 2 members and is offline a lot.
The thing is, I really would love to raid Getto boyz. I know they have a lot of cool swag, and they oddly have not made any turrets. Not even plant turrets.
Get two major attacks on your bases and people bail like cockroaches lol Two join the Chinese (couple)
Another group bail on us during battle and made off with 2K CP and like 4K chitin and formed their own tribe.
Now those tribe who backed us are scavenging or threatening us. I IED Zebra and a tribe lost a flyer and player.
They got pissed. I laughed and ask why they were in our backyard damn near
Just finished the weekly pvp survival event and won. Got myself a MC flak chest piece as a prize. It got recorded by the admin and he'll be putting it up on youtube. I'll link it when its put up.
Lol, Giganotosauruses are so broken right now... so damn broken. Keep in mind they do 1200 per bite base, and an additional 4% of max hp over 4 second from bleeding... AND they have over 100k hp each even at level one... AND they attack faster and have better stamina the more they get hurt... AND they are actually just as fast, if not faster than, a sprinting rex.
They're not that hard of a tame either, taking very little effort in terms of food, though they do take ridiculous amounts of narcotics (about one every two seconds, for tame times up to six hours on raw primes or three and a half on kibble and as low as 45m on kibble or 1h15m on raw primes for level one). Two people, one of which had a good priming dino, could do it fairly easily. Three would have no problem.
Grey Templar wrote: Well, other than the fact it took me 4 hours to find him. I literally walked over the entire map before I found him.
That doesn't really make it balanced, though.
That just means the one faction who can afford to look the longest becomes Giga Tamers Master Race, and as long as they can keep the fliers off their backs they're unstoppable. And even if they can't, the gigas on aggressive will destroy anything short of a metal fortress-- and I mean that, it can step over walls unless they're at least four high.
It builds up on mine. I just so rarely take hits because everything dies in 1-2 bites. I know because I took a little fall damage, which really built the meter up.
Ah gak....you might have ran across our Alpha site.......Pearl and Zebra will be up and running and Shadow Bunny Ranch shall be off limit.....for he raise them babies
Grey Templar wrote: It builds up on mine. I just so rarely take hits because everything dies in 1-2 bites. I know because I took a little fall damage, which really built the meter up.
I did a duel between a tamed giga and an untamed one to test it out. Tamed one didn't build up rage. In fact, the tame one lost, because of the rage effect on the untamed one, in spite of being four times the level and having an ascended saddle.
Rage doesn't build up on normal combat damage, but it DOES build up on fall damage.
I seem to recall getting rage on some bronto hits, not much but i think it was there. I think the Giganto has some bugs though. He seems to cause huge amounts of lag too.
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Jihadin wrote: Ah gak....you might have ran across our Alpha site.......Pearl and Zebra will be up and running and Shadow Bunny Ranch shall be off limit.....for he raise them babies
You are Syndicate right? Then yeah I found your beach base.
Thinking about it, I could kill someone who is riding a giga fairly easily-- fly up and grab them with my argent, fly up and drop them-- but the giga itself... don't think I can. I tested it out... with the amount of HP it has, it took over 500 headshots from an ascended assault rifle that had ~775% damage and didn't die.
Even high-level rexes would be wiped out by a single magazine of that assault rifle. That thing though? it took more than ten magazines.
fighting a giga with anything other than a giga is going to result in dead stuff. i think they could easily drop a zero from the HP and dmg and this dino would be better, right now if you encounter one you are screwed.
Yeah, it's not like you can outrun it. It's faster than a sprinting rex or carnotaur, about the only thing that can outrun it is a flier or a speed-tamed raptor... and maybe not the raptor.
I was out leveling one, then my base was attacked by 2 wild level 16 gigas. I ran back and lost the other giga.
Fortunately all I lost was the gigas, 2 birds, and an Anklyo. But still super depressing. Wild gigas basically beat any tame giga regardless of level. Its stupid. At least I have their egg, so maybe I'll be able to hatch one.
today and just use my rifle for hunting and whatnot, much to the annoyance of my brother. It does however make the hunting of paras and those giant rats easier, with a single shot to the head dropping them in one shot. Plus, a gun is meant to be used, not kept in a supply crate because bullets are expensive, fething hell man!
