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General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/20 08:05:18


Post by: Mymearan


I saw a similar thread on another forum, So I thought I'd try it here. A thread to show off your latest purchases, talk about recent games, tactics, expectations, etc, for people who enjoy AoS and are optimistic about its future. Let's see if there are actually enough of us on dakka :-D

Personally I'm off to purchase a 45-model strong Stormcast army today. I'm pretty excited that I'll be able to play without borrowing other people's armies like I have been doing. Going to try a more somber paint scheme inspired by the beautiful Ex Profundis one in marble and red. I'm also getting the first book soon and am looking forward to the scenarios, although the free scenarios from the Clash of Swords tournament are already very good. Hoping that the game will stick around in our group, there have been quite a few games and people are giving it a chance.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/20 08:20:26


Post by: Bottle


Great idea for a thread!

I'm currently building up a new Vampire Counts force, but in the meantime they are being added into my Empire army which has now become a "Dogs of War" style mishmash of factions (currently Empire, High Elves, Dwarfs and Vampire Counts).

My long term goals are to build 3 separate forces (Order, Death and Destruction) with GW's School League rules of 30 model armies. This is to allow my two brothers to have a mini tournament with me sometime in the future.

The short term goal is to make a single 30 model School League force, which I am currently painting or rebasing. (You can see the progress in my blog, linked in my signature). Our local GW will be using the rules for a tournament come the end of October, which is a nice goal to work towards.

I feel like AoS will pick up at my local GW. We had a really big group for 8th that has largely been split in if they like AoS or not. I think the tide is starting to sway positively as more and more fun looking games are played in store.

All in all I am very happy with AoS and hope it has every bit of success.

I'm still on the fence about the new fluff but I am hoping GW can improve it as they expand into other armies.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/20 09:22:22


Post by: RoperPG


I'm cracking on with my Stormcast at the moment, but the recent addition of a magnifying daylight lamp it's taking me twice as long to prepare my minis...
I still need to make some additions because I haven't got a 'toolbox' I'm happy with yet, and I actually have yet to win a game (although I have moved from major losses to minor ones and a draw...)
But I'm already thinking after finishing this force with pristine metals, blinding light and neat edges I'll need to move on to something messy and organic; probably Rotbringers or Bloodbound...


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/20 10:06:49


Post by: Fleshrott


Currently I'm working on some Rotbringers with Pestilens allies, proving to be quite the force on the tabletop, and having 40 Blightkings to build and paint have been a nice, if not long task, but enjoyable enough

I'm really liking AoS mostly due to its simplicity and because it adds a social aspect to the game which can be almost non existent in other game systems like 40k, I like talking to my opponent before hand and checking what theyre cool with me bringing etc.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/20 10:21:46


Post by: Attilla


Besides spending much of my hobbytime on the PPC comp, I'm also slowly rebasing and adding to my VC, Empire, and Chaos forces. I'm still on the fence whether or not to keep my Dwarfs and rebase them as well, or slowly sell them off to make more room for the first three armies. The first goal is to have enough painted and rebased models for 1000 pts of PPC (50-60 wounds), because we've found that for us it really adds to the game to have those round bases. We've played some big games earlier before rebasing, so now we've taken a step back and try to enjoy the game in smaller numbers before adding more models again.

My group have enjoyed AoS alot, both casually and competetively, and it has taken over a few other games we used to play more frequently. Once we have all rebased and painted our forces we're going to do some batreps as well, because that's another side of the hobby I enjoy.

I still haven't got the AoS or Ghal Maraz big books, but will probably get the second one because I hear there are lots of fun scenarios in it to play.

I too hope that AoS really takes off and becomes a success, because despite its flaws it is a solid and really fun game!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/20 10:25:08


Post by: Mymearan


Attila, where in Sweden are you guys?


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/20 12:31:09


Post by: Lythrandire Biehrellian


Had a demo game last week where I had a teammate and I playing death faction (vampire counts for me, tomb kings for him, he used necron proxies ) against a friend who had played fantasy for along time, he used his dwarves. The dwarf player won, we couldnt kill all of his models, time ran out, and we had summoned enough stuff that we couldn't win a minor victory.

The dwarf player is actually going to run a league now, he said he had a lot more fun than he though he would!

As far as tactics, we had a bit of fun with the shambling horde rule for zombies. If two units of zombies are within one once of each other in the hero phase, they become one big unit. We were summoning zombies on one side of the unit, adding them to the board, and just not moving those particular zombies in the movement phase. Ended up with a pile of about 40 zombies!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/20 16:18:40


Post by: coelomate


I got sucked back in while reading about the Total War game. Some comments about AoS intrigued me, and I started digging into all the changes after not having touched wargamming in almost 4 years.

Right now I'm having a blast reading all of the rules. I've finished a fairly close read of the rules for all but three armies, and I've loved thinking through strategies/synergies and trying to figure out the design and balance intentions that went into producing AoS. In a lot of ways, the rules are very elegant - everything can hurt everything else, monsters are balanced such that they look cool but operate similarly to elite units on the table (they don't do much more damage, if they do any damage at all, and just like a unit they get less potent as they take damage), many characters are soft targets that provide bonuses and synergies rather than being walking death machines... it's really cool.

The streamlined rolling also makes it much easier to gauge the strength of something. You can make a pretty good estimation of how much damage any given unit will do in a round of combat, and how much damage it will take to put them down. Whenever I see an interesting unit, I toss it into a spreadsheet to check my assumptions about how pointy its sticks are.

The lack of points is a little tough, but I'm more optimistic about community comp and the "I-go-you-go" deployment rules than many commenters.

My next goal is to learn painting. I've played WHFB and 40k on and off for more than a decade, with lots of long gaps, but never been good at painting (or even at committing to painting...). I'd like to pick an army and slowly build it up painting as I go. It's exciting that I should be able to play some decent games with a much smaller and more diverse force under AoS rules than I could have under 8th edition rules.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/20 17:05:34


Post by: VanHallan


 Bottle wrote:
Great idea for a thread!

My long term goals are to build 3 separate forces (Order, Death and Destruction) with GW's School League rules of 30 model armies. This is to allow my two brothers to have a mini tournament with me sometime in the future.

The short term goal is to make a single 30 model School League force, which I am currently painting or rebasing. (You can see the progress in my blog, linked in my signature). Our local GW will be using the rules for a tournament come the end of October, which is a nice goal to work towards.



Where can I get more info on school league rules/armies? I googled something at war hammer world but its just a showcase... sounds like exactly what I'm looking for.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/20 17:11:27


Post by: coelomate


VanHallan wrote:
Where can I get more info on school league rules/armies? I googled something at war hammer world but its just a showcase... sounds like exactly what I'm looking for.

I believe it's this: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/662817.page


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/20 19:23:47


Post by: Mymearan


 coelomate wrote:
I got sucked back in while reading about the Total War game. Some comments about AoS intrigued me, and I started digging into all the changes after not having touched wargamming in almost 4 years.

Right now I'm having a blast reading all of the rules. I've finished a fairly close read of the rules for all but three armies, and I've loved thinking through strategies/synergies and trying to figure out the design and balance intentions that went into producing AoS. In a lot of ways, the rules are very elegant - everything can hurt everything else, monsters are balanced such that they look cool but operate similarly to elite units on the table (they don't do much more damage, if they do any damage at all, and just like a unit they get less potent as they take damage), many characters are soft targets that provide bonuses and synergies rather than being walking death machines... it's really cool.

The streamlined rolling also makes it much easier to gauge the strength of something. You can make a pretty good estimation of how much damage any given unit will do in a round of combat, and how much damage it will take to put them down. Whenever I see an interesting unit, I toss it into a spreadsheet to check my assumptions about how pointy its sticks are.

The lack of points is a little tough, but I'm more optimistic about community comp and the "I-go-you-go" deployment rules than many commenters.

My next goal is to learn painting. I've played WHFB and 40k on and off for more than a decade, with lots of long gaps, but never been good at painting (or even at committing to painting...). I'd like to pick an army and slowly build it up painting as I go. It's exciting that I should be able to play some decent games with a much smaller and more diverse force under AoS rules than I could have under 8th edition rules.


I agree about the warscrolls, it's actually a lot of fun just going through and reading them, since all of the special rules are warscroll specific and there is a lot of flavor there.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/21 02:19:31


Post by: TheCustomLime


Despite my misgivings about the lack of a comp system Age of Sigmar does seem to be a fun game. I am saving up some money for the starter set so I can get started on a Stormcast Eternal army. They are such nice models.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/21 02:36:39


Post by: Kriswall


 TheCustomLime wrote:
Despite my misgivings about the lack of a comp system Age of Sigmar does seem to be a fun game. I am saving up some money for the starter set so I can get started on a Stormcast Eternal army. They are such nice models.


If you're not interested in the Khorne Bloodbound models, you might want to check eBay. The Stormcast Eternal half seems to go for about 45 USD + shipping.

For my part, I'm starting to work on a small Skaven force. I always like Skaven, but never had any desire to assemble and paint a thousand Clan Rats. Now, I can put together an elite force of relatively few models to add to my existing Chaos Daemons.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/21 07:44:30


Post by: Skullhammer


Finally i can and have used my hell cannon i bought way back when (in metal) just because i like the model but i never used it as my warriors force was a few monsters and not enough points or % so they sat on the shelf for years now tgey can be used with my deamons and skaven and ogers and gobbos its great. That above anything else i why i like AoS i can finally use all the models i like the look of in one force and not worry about %'s etc.
In my area theres a lot of players who play and feel the same.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/21 09:15:24


Post by: Huda


Hi guys

I haven't played Warhammer for years and when I did it was 40K. I recently decided I wanted to get back into it again and enjoy a new hobby, this time around the fantasy setting was far more appealing to me.
After popping into my local GW store and chatting to them about AoS I decided to go for it. It really does sound like great fun.

Starting with just a box of Ogres for now, planning to have an army of Ogre Kingdoms and Warriors of Chaos.

Found out the majority of my paints are more of a paste than a liquid, I'll have to try and revive them.



General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/21 09:35:50


Post by: MongooseMatt


Good idea for a thread.

For my AoS, I went a bit silly, and bought into the idea of a 'fresh start' big time. So, after knocking around with the starter set models, I, umm, decided I would pick up one of everything that came out for the game. Then I decided I would (gulp) paint models specifically so I could run through the campaigns in the various realms.

It has actually not gone too badly and I have almost kept pace with the painting and releases (all the flying Stormcasts are on the table to get painted this week).

Thus far, I have a respectable Bloodbound force (about 100 models, including some odd bits from the novels like that Khorne-worshipping Skaven in the Call of Archaon story), and the Stormcasts are accruing nicely. Also got through the Sylvaneth box set and have a nice little group of Pestilens.

The next big projects are the Rotbringers and then the Bleak Horde. Also need to look at the Dreadhold, but starting off with just a Skull Keep for The Tower Battleplan...

Rather glad the Tau releases are coming up, as that will allow me to keep pace with AoS


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/21 09:43:03


Post by: Huda


MongooseMatt wrote:
So, after knocking around with the starter set models, I, umm, decided I would pick up one of everything that came out for the game. Then I decided I would (gulp) paint models specifically so I could run through the campaigns in the various realms.

It has actually not gone too badly and I have almost kept pace with the painting and releases (all the flying Stormcasts are on the table to get painted this week).


Wow, best of luck with all that painting!



General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/21 11:19:45


Post by: MongooseMatt


Incidentally, if anyone is in the Swindon (UK) area and fancies campaign games, give me a shout!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/21 21:38:19


Post by: OgreChubbs


Me..... Well i am still anoued there is not more ogre fluff yet..... But with the new book i can deal ...i guess for a while.

My goal is simple more ofres i need 2 more thunder stone horns 12 more mournfangs ect. I would take a pic of my 300+ model ogre army but I am a bit imbarassed because they where my first army and i think i was like 12 when i started them, so many are not so good lol.



General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 00:16:11


Post by: TheCustomLime


 Kriswall wrote:
 TheCustomLime wrote:
Despite my misgivings about the lack of a comp system Age of Sigmar does seem to be a fun game. I am saving up some money for the starter set so I can get started on a Stormcast Eternal army. They are such nice models.


If you're not interested in the Khorne Bloodbound models, you might want to check eBay. The Stormcast Eternal half seems to go for about 45 USD + shipping.

For my part, I'm starting to work on a small Skaven force. I always like Skaven, but never had any desire to assemble and paint a thousand Clan Rats. Now, I can put together an elite force of relatively few models to add to my existing Chaos Daemons.


Good advice but there is something satisfying about opening a big box of plastic tat. Besides, I'm planning on sticking the Khorne guys on squares and using them for other fantasy games.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 01:01:35


Post by: Dreadnok89


I have a khorne army and stormcast army, i cant wait for the new khorne figures. They look awesome. Been reading all the novels too so it goes great with the game


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 07:03:22


Post by: roddo


I've put together about 200 wounds worth of ogres since i decided to play AOS. got alot of them assembled off of ebay. Last week I played my first ever game of warhammer, and have to say it was alot of fun. Was a 120 wound game against stormcast. I had a tyrant, 2 4 ogre lead belcher units, a 4 mournfang unit, 5 maneaters, a 5 ogre irongut unit and a 6 irongut unit. Was pretty pleased with everything I brought, as I ended up wrecking stormcast to a man with me with around 45-50 wounds left over. Can't wait to throw my thundertusk and stonehorn into the mix, as well as my butchers and golgfag maneater. I like the combat system alot, as I've always hated standing back and watching the other guy kill all my gak and not be able to do anything about it. the rolling for turn each turn is sweet also, makes things interesting when you go twice in a row.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 09:19:02


Post by: Mymearan


Great to hear you're having fun! Would probably suggest trying out one of the points systems instead of wounds, since Ogres are super good for how many wounds they have :-)


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 14:07:20


Post by: FlightMedic


I'm glad to see a positive thread. I have wanted to get into Warhammer for more than 15 years, but when I was younger the cost was prohibitive and then when I got older and had expendable income I didn't know anyone to show me the ropes or to play with. AoS has given me the chance to start playing Warhammer with simpler rules and from a marketing standpoint GW accomplished what I believe was their goal because now I am interested in learning to play 40K which I always felt was too complicated to pick up without someone to guide you along.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 14:39:08


Post by: Huda


FlightMedic wrote:
I'm glad to see a positive thread. I have wanted to get into Warhammer for more than 15 years, but when I was younger the cost was prohibitive and then when I got older and had expendable income I didn't know anyone to show me the ropes or to play with. AoS has given me the chance to start playing Warhammer with simpler rules and from a marketing standpoint GW accomplished what I believe was their goal because now I am interested in learning to play 40K which I always felt was too complicated to pick up without someone to guide you along.


Welcome to the forums =)

Glad to hear that you're enjoying AoS, I'm in the exact same situation as you. Finally have the expendable income but none of my friends currently play so AoS offered the perfect chance to start the hobby.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 15:54:51


Post by: Deusvult


The Stormcast have been growing on me day by day. Initially my reaction was the usual "fantasy space marines? Yuck" but by now I actually love them!

Have just bought the 4 new knights and some more liberators and will start painting the this afternoon. Already have a sizeable force from the starterkit and some addons.

I have to say that Age of Sigmar has rejuvenated my flagging interest in warhammer fantasy both its lore and the game itself. My only regret is the constant stream of negativity online which is a constant downer when looking for others who also love AoS


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 16:08:28


Post by: RoperPG


Before AoS was released one of the rumours described Stormcast as 'good' Chaos Warriors - yes, there's obvious cross-over compared to marines, but I kinda like the tragedy aspect of them. Fighting to defend humanity, while growing further from it.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 16:24:37


Post by: kungfujon


Nice Thread!

I've started a large Sylvaneth army and I'm beginning to build a Nurgle Rotbringers/Pestilens army to oppose it. I decided I wanted to do a "War in the Realm of Life" theme to give me two different options to play and to make a nice demo-style set to teach new people the game.

Cheers!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 16:34:34


Post by: More Dakka


Really satisfied with the internal balance of my Skaven army now. There's very few units I wouldn't consider taking.

I always always loved Rat Ogres and I'm really happy that they've been buffed up significantly and can go toe to toe with Ogre Kingdoms basic troops.

All the weapon teams got a buff and are fairly reliable (gasp! I know, but at least they give you the option to over charge every one of them with the risk of blowing yourself up.)

I was kind of hating on Clanrats for a bit, but then I hadn't read about their neat little formation that lets weapons teams hide in them, along with some other neat buffs.

I've been seeing a lot of competitive comp mainly geared towards stopping multiple selections of the same unit from being taken. I can safely say that my Skaven will do well even if I'm forced to take max one of each unit I have access to.



General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 16:59:22


Post by: Kenshinzo 7


AoS hit all the right buttons for me . As a 30 year veteran of Warhammer Fantasy Battle it helped me love the hobby again. I don't play tournaments anymore so point values do not matter to me. I like the way I can make this game be anything I want it to be. It really is very scaleable. I really liked 8th, but then I liked 7th, 6th, 5th, 4th and 3rd editions as well however it was time for something different. I still have all my old editions and from time to time still play them , but then I have a good group of friends who will play that way.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 17:23:07


Post by: Mymearan


Deusvult wrote:
The Stormcast have been growing on me day by day. Initially my reaction was the usual "fantasy space marines? Yuck" but by now I actually love them!

Have just bought the 4 new knights and some more liberators and will start painting the this afternoon. Already have a sizeable force from the starterkit and some addons.

I have to say that Age of Sigmar has rejuvenated my flagging interest in warhammer fantasy both its lore and the game itself. My only regret is the constant stream of negativity online which is a constant downer when looking for others who also love AoS


Agree on both your points! The Stormcst grew on me a little too much... And now I have 45 of the buggers. :-D

And your second point is exactly why I made this thread. It got to the point where the constant bitterness and negativity was actually killing my enthusiasm for the game, and I needed somewhere where I could simply enjoy a game I like and talk about it with likeminded people in an optimistic way. So that's what this thread is about! It's not about uncritically accepting everything GW does, it's for people who have an optimistic view of the games future and an appreciation of what it is trying to do on some level.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 17:41:05


Post by: Talys


It's not my main game (which remains 40k), but i've been amazed at how much I've been playing AoS. There are several factors, at the top of which is that my wife enjoys it, which counts for more than pretty much anything else possibly could.

But on its own merits, it's a fun game that's easy to organically grow into, by which I mean, you can learn it as you go along, without the need to digest volumes of rules, and it's a great way to spend some time playing miniature games.

While I'm sure AoS will evolve with time, I hope its core rules simplicity, or at least ease of learning, remains.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 17:50:04


Post by: NAVARRO


I have been rebasing my gobbos and adding more goodies to them since AOS was released. Its quite refreshing to be able to collect small warbands as opposed of big armies so my Nurgle project is also underway. Im also making a nice gaming table.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 18:05:22


Post by: quiestdeus


I step away from the forums for a week and come back to this gem... thank you for starting this thread!!!

For everyone out there continuing to transition to AoS... how are you handling re-basing? I reaaaaally do not want to completely redo all of my Aefl's bases, but I also wish they were on rounds the more games I get in against people who have made the switch.

I heard an interesting approach of just cutting the lip off the square base and then gluing the entire top to a round one... has anyone tried this? Any thoughts?


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 18:36:08


Post by: Bottle


I'm rebasing everything.

No pain no gain!

And just like Navarro, I'm loving that I only need small war bands now rather than massive armies.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 19:14:06


Post by: MongooseMatt


quiestdeus wrote:


For everyone out there continuing to transition to AoS... how are you handling re-basing? I reaaaaally do not want to completely redo all of my Aefl's bases, but I also wish they were on rounds the more games I get in against people who have made the switch.

I heard an interesting approach of just cutting the lip off the square base and then gluing the entire top to a round one... has anyone tried this? Any thoughts?


Not sure I can help you here - I went ahead and started new forces from scratch


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 19:24:21


Post by: Lythrandire Biehrellian


Why rebase? My only houserule is measuring from the "body" of the models, not the weapons and banners. Totally legit and I don't have to rebase anything


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 19:24:33


Post by: ShaneTB


Played more AoS. Continues to feel like a videogame. I think the design is more a happy accident, than anything else. And having fun which is all that matters. Making me lay out my force for the next weekend of it to paint them all up.

Balancing via the eye is getting harder. So we'll use the Guerilla Mini's system next time to keep things simpler.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 19:29:05


Post by: Bottle


Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:
Why rebase? My only houserule is measuring from the "body" of the models, not the weapons and banners. Totally legit and I don't have to rebase anything


Once you've piled in, circle bases on circle bases, you'll never want to go back ;-)


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 20:28:31


Post by: Skullhammer


quiestdeus wrote:
I step away from the forums for a week and come back to this gem..
. [snip]
I heard an interesting approach of just cutting the lip off the square base and then gluing the entire top to a round one... has anyone tried this? Any thoughts?


yes that works for 20mm square onto 25mm round or bigger and 25mm square to 30mm round and up. you will end up with a small lip but it can be over come with fine base sand or just leave it depending on your base style. I've also found that 50mm rounds work well for ogre size models rather than 40's.

welcolm to the party and have fun.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 21:35:12


Post by: MongooseMatt


Currently about to embark on my 'winged division' for the Hallowed Knights - the Knights-Azyros and Venator, 6 Prosecutors (all with spears, had enough of the hammers with the starter set guys) and the Celestant-Prime. A veritable horde of angels!

The Hallowed Knights are silver, and despite a silvery Celestant-Prime appearing in the Stormcast book, I think I will do this one the traditional gold - will make him stand out a great deal amongst the rest of my guys.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 22:04:11


Post by: bitethythumb


quiestdeus wrote:
I step away from the forums for a week and come back to this gem... thank you for starting this thread!!!

For everyone out there continuing to transition to AoS... how are you handling re-basing? I reaaaaally do not want to completely redo all of my Aefl's bases, but I also wish they were on rounds the more games I get in against people who have made the switch.

I heard an interesting approach of just cutting the lip off the square base and then gluing the entire top to a round one... has anyone tried this? Any thoughts?
square for heroes, champs, leaders etc... Everyone else gets circles.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 22:15:55


Post by: Mymearan


Here's what I've got so far, plus 3 more Retributors, 5 Paladins, 2 Liberator Champions and another Relictor still on the sprue. I didn't paint any of these so I'm in the process of stripping them... Which is the damned worst thing ever. I forgot what a pain it is to strip plastic minis, especially ones with soooo many nooks and crannies for paint to stay hidden in... Anyone have any tips how to strip them completely clean? After stripping I've been scraping paint from the recesses with a tool, which takes ages. I'm sure they'll look fine after priming but I hate paint flecks :-p



General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 22:25:12


Post by: Digclaw


I'm about half way done painting my Stormcast starter forces (I split the AOS starter with a friend in exchange for some Skaven). I've been having fun figuring out my paint scheme. My first 5 liberators were done closer to the studio, but as I got used to the stormcast models, I figured out what I wanted to do so all my other stormcasts will be in this new style except for My cellestant on Drakoth, that will be closer to Studio, so those Liberators can be his body Guards.

This is the First Games Workshop Game I've ever bought into. I've never liked the astetic for 40k, everybody looks blocky and bulky, but I always thought Fantasy looked amazing. But when I ever asked about Fantasy it was always to 40k players and they usually bashed Fantasy.

Recently my local shop has started carrying GW again after a few years. They dropped GW stuff in the past because the stuff got stolen more than it actually ever sold. So I come into the Shop and see a new stand covered in GW stuff.

I look at AOS ans think, I know people are complaining about the rules, but these models do look cool. Then I picked up the box and looked at the back and got a real look of the picture of the Drakoth. So I walk up to my buddy who does the ordering at the store and was the one behind bringing GW back in and was like "You know that fantasy starter you got for free?" "If I buy this can I get the Skaven?" (I've been hounding him for the skaven ever since GW sent him a sample box to try to get the store to pick up GW again)

He was like "But then You'll have 3 armies and I'll only have elves" I was like "you cn have the Demons I want me some Ratmen!"

SO now I hve Storm Cast and Skavem. and Maybe Lizerdmen, but that will be in the new year if I buy them

There are now three of us at the store getting into AOS. Right now we are painting our Armies, but We are really enjoying the fluff and the models and the warscrolls and new scenarios


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 23:08:45


Post by: BlackLobster


We're not worried about the bases. Round or square is fine.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/22 23:46:33


Post by: Hettar


Well the Skaven have never been so much destructive but i do miss my doom rockets, but i ain't rebasing 500 mini's i'm telling you that now from the get go, how ever my new project it to have a 10 model Vampire army (Neferata, 2 Mounted Vampire lords, 5 blood knights and 2 Vargulf's) that will raise things like bat swarms, fell bats, Vargheist's and Vargulf's and i'l be working on having heroes from all races that look slightly like vampires so i can place them after Neferata gives them the blood kiss lol


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 00:02:49


Post by: Lythrandire Biehrellian


 Bottle wrote:
Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:
Why rebase? My only houserule is measuring from the "body" of the models, not the weapons and banners. Totally legit and I don't have to rebase anything


Once you've piled in, circle bases on circle bases, you'll never want to go back ;-)


Except my minis end at almost the edge of the base. Meaning you are actually losing distance between the two models equal to the distance between the model and the front of its own base...

I'll stick with square, where my models actually overlap my base in all directions most of the time


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 01:55:54


Post by: quiestdeus


Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:
 Bottle wrote:
Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:
Why rebase? My only houserule is measuring from the "body" of the models, not the weapons and banners. Totally legit and I don't have to rebase anything


Once you've piled in, circle bases on circle bases, you'll never want to go back ;-)


Except my minis end at almost the edge of the base. Meaning you are actually losing distance between the two models equal to the distance between the model and the front of its own base...

I'll stick with square, where my models actually overlap my base in all directions most of the time


Purely for aesthetics really, I just like the look of the round bases more if the units are not tightly in a formation. I am definitely doing my Vampire Counts army on resin rounds (so thanks for everyone for the size tips!), so after that I may slooooowly work on converting my entire order force over.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 02:28:35


Post by: Vargard Obi-wan


Well I'm working on a Skaven force with a few units from 8th left over, my verminlord is totally gone apparently, and I REALLY love chaos, I'm prob gonna get a couple of Khorne Bloodbound. My only problme with Aos....People say it has broken rules...the only broken thing in AoS in STORMCASTS. THEY HAVE SPACE MARINE SAVES WHAT IS THAT DOING TO MY STORMVERMIN?!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 04:18:19


Post by: TheCustomLime


To Stormcast Eternal players in the know: What is a good "First purchase" after the starter kit? I'm thinking buying two boxes of liberators to give my guys options for hammers but those archers would provide nice ranged support.m


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 04:45:41


Post by: 455_PWR


I have become a die hard fan of the stormcasts too, especially after reading the novels (maybe it's the 40k player in me as well, or the fact that I like celestial angels/demons). I started with the starter set too back when it came out.

To be honest, I would say invest in another lord on dracolith ($9 on ebay), and a Lord Castellant. Use the dracoliths to tear your enemy to pieces with both range and CC. Use the Castellant to buff your armies saves for survivability (a 2+ save on a dracolith is friking wicked!).

After that I'd add some judicators for suport, definitely more retributors, and then some other support characters. The 10 Liberators from the starter are probably good enough, they are really only good as tarpits and objective campers imho.

By the way, great thread! Glad to see many people enjoying the game!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 05:51:16


Post by: Mymearan


 TheCustomLime wrote:
To Stormcast Eternal players in the know: What is a good "First purchase" after the starter kit? I'm thinking buying two boxes of liberators to give my guys options for hammers but those archers would provide nice ranged support.m


Definitely Judicators for the bows!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 06:09:56


Post by: JohnHwangDD


For the record, I was hot on AoS, and was working on more Dogs of War stuff.

But yesterday, Kingdom Death : Monster arrived, and I'm going to want to get some of that playable.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 07:31:08


Post by: ShaneTB


Spoiler:
 Mymearan wrote:
Here's what I've got so far, plus 3 more Retributors, 5 Paladins, 2 Liberator Champions and another Relictor still on the sprue. I didn't paint any of these so I'm in the process of stripping them... Which is the damned worst thing ever. I forgot what a pain it is to strip plastic minis, especially ones with soooo many nooks and crannies for paint to stay hidden in... Anyone have any tips how to strip them completely clean? After stripping I've been scraping paint from the recesses with a tool, which takes ages. I'm sure they'll look fine after priming but I hate paint flecks :-p



I use an old toothbrush to clean the model once I take it out of the stripping solution.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Vargard Obi-wan wrote:
Well I'm working on a Skaven force with a few units from 8th left over, my verminlord is totally gone apparently, and I REALLY love chaos, I'm prob gonna get a couple of Khorne Bloodbound. My only problme with Aos....People say it has broken rules...the only broken thing in AoS in STORMCASTS. THEY HAVE SPACE MARINE SAVES WHAT IS THAT DOING TO MY STORMVERMIN?!


I haven't lost to Stormcasts once yet. The older armies seem more powerful then the two new ones.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 08:54:19


Post by: RoperPG


ShaneTB wrote:
Spoiler:
 Mymearan wrote:
Here's what I've got so far, plus 3 more Retributors, 5 Paladins, 2 Liberator Champions and another Relictor still on the sprue. I didn't paint any of these so I'm in the process of stripping them... Which is the damned worst thing ever. I forgot what a pain it is to strip plastic minis, especially ones with soooo many nooks and crannies for paint to stay hidden in... Anyone have any tips how to strip them completely clean? After stripping I've been scraping paint from the recesses with a tool, which takes ages. I'm sure they'll look fine after priming but I hate paint flecks :-p



I use an old toothbrush to clean the model once I take it out of the stripping solution.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Vargard Obi-wan wrote:
Well I'm working on a Skaven force with a few units from 8th left over, my verminlord is totally gone apparently, and I REALLY love chaos, I'm prob gonna get a couple of Khorne Bloodbound. My only problme with Aos....People say it has broken rules...the only broken thing in AoS in STORMCASTS. THEY HAVE SPACE MARINE SAVES WHAT IS THAT DOING TO MY STORMVERMIN?!


I haven't lost to Stormcasts once yet. The older armies seem more powerful then the two new ones.

Haven't won a game with my Stormcasts yet. One of my regular opponents is a Dwarf player and they are brutal at range, brutal in combat and unbelievably resilient with the right selection of effects. Cluster of Warmachines with an engineer, unit if longbeards with orbiting Lords chucking out multiple grudges, Runesmiths giving rend or armour buffs and a BSB that renders mass immunity to Battleshock... Ugh.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 12:38:13


Post by: FlightMedic


 TheCustomLime wrote:
To Stormcast Eternal players in the know: What is a good "First purchase" after the starter kit? I'm thinking buying two boxes of liberators to give my guys options for hammers but those archers would provide nice ranged support.m


People on eBay have been splitting up the starter sets and selling the units much cheaper than the boxes. You can buy liberators for about $12 for 5 instead of $50.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 12:42:58


Post by: sing your life


FlightMedic wrote:
 TheCustomLime wrote:
To Stormcast Eternal players in the know: What is a good "First purchase" after the starter kit? I'm thinking buying two boxes of liberators to give my guys options for hammers but those archers would provide nice ranged support.m


People on eBay have been splitting up the starter sets and selling the units much cheaper than the boxes. You can buy liberators for about $12 for 5 instead of $50.


Already said by Kriswal a page ago.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 12:49:10


Post by: ShaneTB


Anyone tried smaller games so they can play alternate sides on a battleplan in a session i.e. attacker and then defender?

I think that'd be a fun way of exploring the battleplans more.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 15:53:12


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


My LGW is in the middle of a campaign, and so I decided to jump in.

There's a couple guys playing the new sigmarites, one guy playing Khorne and a small mix of other armies here and there. I'm building an Empire army, because I have and love the Karl Franz model, and I absolutely love the Greatsword models. So now the GS's are the backbone of my army and I'm slowly expanding the force with the campaign.

It's great fun, pretty simple set up and play, and so far every game has really been a back and forth affair for me. Usually an entire game will hinge on one or two dice rolls around turns 3 or 4, so they are fairly tactical and "tense" throughout.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 16:18:01


Post by: TrollSlayerThorak'Khun'Na


Aside from my DWARFS! I am rebasing/collecting some new figurines for my warlord tales:

- Stormcast army. Now I'm going to repaint them.
- Khorne mortal/daemon army (from starter set, add bloodletters, blood crushers, war hounds)
- Undead zombie horde (two finecast heroes on mounts, about 100 zombies, 50 ghouls, 30 skeletons)
- Skaven...one unit of clanrats and a bunch of metal jezzails
- Bretonnia...units of men at arms, bowmen, two knight units, one pegasus, trebuchet

To be honest all my old stuff is finding new life! Even if just as a small war band to accent bigger games.

What's the best solution for stripping paint?


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 16:53:46


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


TrollSlayerThorak'Khun'Na wrote:

What's the best solution for stripping paint?



Here in the US, I've had the best results from Simple Green. Though I don't know how available that is in Canadia.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 16:59:10


Post by: JohnHwangDD


TrollSlayerThorak'Khun'Na wrote:
What's the best solution for stripping paint?


Castrol Super Clean, if you can still get it.

Go to the auto parts store.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 17:02:18


Post by: Mymearan


TrollSlayerThorak'Khun'Na wrote:
Aside from my DWARFS! I am rebasing/collecting some new figurines for my warlord tales:

- Stormcast army. Now I'm going to repaint them.
- Khorne mortal/daemon army (from starter set, add bloodletters, blood crushers, war hounds)
- Undead zombie horde (two finecast heroes on mounts, about 100 zombies, 50 ghouls, 30 skeletons)
- Skaven...one unit of clanrats and a bunch of metal jezzails
- Bretonnia...units of men at arms, bowmen, two knight units, one pegasus, trebuchet

To be honest all my old stuff is finding new life! Even if just as a small war band to accent bigger games.

What's the best solution for stripping paint?


Acetone-free nail polish remover. No need to soak, just dip the model in it or spray a bit and you can just brush the paint of immediately with an old toothbrush. Best thing I've tried.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 17:10:01


Post by: TheCustomLime


LA's totally awesome if you can find it at your local dollar store. It gets the paint off great and it doesn't hurt your models at all.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 17:25:30


Post by: 455_PWR


Fret not if you are not winning many games with your stormcast eternals. They are actually harder to play as you will most often be outnumbered by your opponent at least 2:1 (the weakest stormcast model is a two wound model). The fact that the average save in AOS is a 4 means that shooting is very powerful.

This is where tactics and strategy come into play. Using lightning strike with formations can ensure your retributors see ombat on the first turn. Use Castellans to buff armor saves. Use cover to max your saves. Once mastered, a stormcast army can be very hard to beat.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 18:29:58


Post by: RoperPG


Oh, totally.
The main issue with Stormcasts is speed for me so far; but a bit of reading up on the newer characters and the formations and I'm feeling far more chipper about things.

Just have to figure out how to take out his allied Gryph Hound first....
*adds Venator to shopping list*


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 20:13:04


Post by: VanHallan


 Mymearan wrote:
TrollSlayerThorak'Khun'Na wrote:
Aside from my DWARFS! I am rebasing/collecting some new figurines for my warlord tales:

- Stormcast army. Now I'm going to repaint them.
- Khorne mortal/daemon army (from starter set, add bloodletters, blood crushers, war hounds)
- Undead zombie horde (two finecast heroes on mounts, about 100 zombies, 50 ghouls, 30 skeletons)
- Skaven...one unit of clanrats and a bunch of metal jezzails
- Bretonnia...units of men at arms, bowmen, two knight units, one pegasus, trebuchet

To be honest all my old stuff is finding new life! Even if just as a small war band to accent bigger games.

What's the best solution for stripping paint?


Acetone-free nail polish remover. No need to soak, just dip the model in it or spray a bit and you can just brush the paint of immediately with an old toothbrush. Best thing I've tried.


In the US, and I assume Canada as well, non-acetone is still going to eat your models. Learned this the hard was twice over the years. Just a heads up. I use LA's totally awesome and find that it does a very good job 9 out of 10 times.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 21:04:05


Post by: BlackLobster


I don't know what the name would be in the US but here in the UK Dettol seems to be work wonders. One of my friends swears by it when stripping paint from metal and plastic models.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/23 22:05:36


Post by: Mymearan


Just finished an Azyr comp 30 point game with my new Stormcast against Undead. Was a blast! I really need a few more characters, I only have the starter box guys right now. Going to buy at least a Castellant and a Heraldor I think. We played an objective scenario from Clash of Kings, which was great. The highlights for me was smashing his Terrorgheist first turn (he got careless and it ate 10 Judicator arrows follow by a Dracoth Celestant charge), and finally breaking his pesky 30-man unit of skeletons. It slaughtered a unit of Liberators earlier in the game with 81 attacks (would've been 108 if the Libs hadn't killed one of them), but I managed to whittle them down enough with Judicators that my Dracoth Celestant could charge in and grind their bones to dust. Then Battleshock took the rest.

Undead are really scary though and I was lucky my opponent only had two characters (a Necromancer and a Vampire Lord). Knights are super annoying because they just won't die... every turn they go back to full strength. You basically have to kill them all on the charge or you're stuck there until you decide to run. I'm still not sure how to house rule summoning, we used Azyr comp summoning and it seemed to work alright, but I don't know. He managed to snatch the victory in the end due to being a better objective grabber than me with so many fast units plus summoning, but it was a close and fun game.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/25 19:55:28


Post by: FlightMedic


Just left my local shop and the owner has invested in all of the new Khorne terrain sets for the store gaming tables. They look fantastic and have some pretty cool abilities.

Starting to build my own table at home and am excited to see what all they come out with for Stormcast terrain as well.

Have any of you guys bought the new AoS terrain sets?


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/25 21:37:23


Post by: Mymearan


FlightMedic wrote:
Just left my local shop and the owner has invested in all of the new Khorne terrain sets for the store gaming tables. They look fantastic and have some pretty cool abilities.

Starting to build my own table at home and am excited to see what all they come out with for Stormcast terrain as well.

Have any of you guys bought the new AoS terrain sets?


I have the Ophidian Archway and was so impressed by it I'm getting the Numinous Occulum tomorrow :-) really wanted to get the realmgates too but I feel that they have such a limited use beyond a few special scenarios... They look cool but if you don't use their rules (for example when playing other games) there's not much point in using them. They don't block line of sight, you can't really put minis in them and they look sort of out of place. I think the Archway and Occulum are the most generally useful pieces so I'll be sticking to those for now.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/26 08:44:41


Post by: toasteroven


So, I won't say I'm an optimist. But the main person I know play against has gotten way into AoS. She likes Brets, and has the battalion box. I've been thinking a small beastman army might be the way to go to get something cheap and simple and also fitting for our game.

So I guess I'm just wondering, how are beastmen, in the current game? It seems to me that they can zip across the battlefield pretty quickly, with the right synergies.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/26 13:50:24


Post by: 455_PWR


Beastmen are pretty powerful and have some nasty characters. I think you will have fun if you use them. As they are part of "chaos", you can always throw in deamons or other chaos units to fill specific needs once you know what the local meta uses.

Overall chaos is one of the most versatile armies. They only really lack in one area: ranged support.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/26 17:52:47


Post by: quiestdeus


Just read this article and it was fascinating: http://www.iii.co.uk/news-opinion/richard-beddard/games-workshop-agm%3A-relentless-profit-machine

At the end of the day though, the only line that really matters for this thread was:

The company cannot divulge sales figures, its in a closed period and Age of Sigmar is only in its third month, but in terms of other metrics, downloads and Sigmar themed magazine sales, management seems more than satisfied. Anyway, it’s at pains to point out, Warhammer Age of Sigmar is a long-term investment.




General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/26 22:59:07


Post by: Fleshrott


Beastmen are fast, really fast! They're a very Alpha strike army I think, they can hit like a freight train, but can't take a punch very well. Their characters are pretty good, and if you fancy using some summoning shenanigans take a Great Bray Shaman and summon something like the Glottkin... As their special rule states that you may summon a MONSTER with no other restrictions... You may not be liked for it very much but still!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/27 06:54:01


Post by: toasteroven


I can't imagine I'd ever use anything like glottkin; I'd have to buy the thing in the first place. Can't really use that ability at all, unless I use a proxy for a monster of some kind.

 455_PWR wrote:
Beastmen are pretty powerful and have some nasty characters. I think you will have fun if you use them. As they are part of "chaos", you can always throw in deamons or other chaos units to fill specific needs once you know what the local meta uses.

Overall chaos is one of the most versatile armies. They only really lack in one area: ranged support.


I'm actually going to try to keep it pure beastmen, at least for right now. At least beastmen have a ranged option, and ungor raiders actually seem pretty nice.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/27 08:42:45


Post by: lare2


Loving this post and loving AoS. I'm optimistic about the game and think it's a great place from which GW's fantasy can grow and develop. For the past 2 years or so I'd moved over to historical gaming but AoS brought me back into the fold. I still struggle with the lack of a points system though. I know it's a touchy subject but I'd like to see this option included in the future. I'm slowly reading the rules of 40k so forgive me if I've got this wrong but unbound says models have a cost but agree on a points limit and field what you want. Couldn't they have just done this with AoS? Anywho, i'm optimistic they will!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/27 08:51:50


Post by: Talys


 Mymearan wrote:

I have the Ophidian Archway and was so impressed by it I'm getting the Numinous Occulum tomorrow :-) really wanted to get the realmgates too but I feel that they have such a limited use beyond a few special scenarios... They look cool but if you don't use their rules (for example when playing other games) there's not much point in using them. They don't block line of sight, you can't really put minis in them and they look sort of out of place. I think the Archway and Occulum are the most generally useful pieces so I'll be sticking to those for now.


Dragonfate Dias is a really cool piece of terrain too!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/27 11:27:44


Post by: RoperPG


lare2 wrote:
Loving this post and loving AoS. I'm optimistic about the game and think it's a great place from which GW's fantasy can grow and develop. For the past 2 years or so I'd moved over to historical gaming but AoS brought me back into the fold. I still struggle with the lack of a points system though. I know it's a touchy subject but I'd like to see this option included in the future. I'm slowly reading the rules of 40k so forgive me if I've got this wrong but unbound says models have a cost but agree on a points limit and field what you want. Couldn't they have just done this with AoS? Anywho, i'm optimistic they will!

Kinda. Unbound has drawbacks compared to using force orgs/formations, the most common one being is that most units in an unbound force can't contest objectives - so if you go unbound, you need to figure out a force that can obliterate your opponent because that is your only option for winning.
If you're struggling with the lack of points, I'd seriously recommend just playing scenarios for a while.
They focus your game plan, and it becomes far less a case of how much someone has, but whether they have the right tools for the job.
I've lost games where I realised I could have won with half the stuff but a more targeted selection.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/27 12:11:40


Post by: BlackLobster


lare2 wrote:
Loving this post and loving AoS. I'm optimistic about the game and think it's a great place from which GW's fantasy can grow and develop. For the past 2 years or so I'd moved over to historical gaming but AoS brought me back into the fold. I still struggle with the lack of a points system though. I know it's a touchy subject but I'd like to see this option included in the future. I'm slowly reading the rules of 40k so forgive me if I've got this wrong but unbound says models have a cost but agree on a points limit and field what you want. Couldn't they have just done this with AoS? Anywho, i'm optimistic they will!


I do sort of agree with you. I play Unbound in 40K and it has been such a refreshing change to just play the army that I want to field. I like that AoS also lets you field what you want but I miss the points costs. Everyone, myself included, is out there trying to find a way to balance the games but it wouldn't have been an issue if GW just stuck to a points system. I also hope that at some point GW will give us an official balance mechanic. Maybe if AoS does as well as we all hope it will they will decide its worth doing.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/28 05:58:14


Post by: Talys


 BlackLobster wrote:
I do sort of agree with you. I play Unbound in 40K and it has been such a refreshing change to just play the army that I want to field. I like that AoS also lets you field what you want but I miss the points costs. Everyone, myself included, is out there trying to find a way to balance the games but it wouldn't have been an issue if GW just stuck to a points system. I also hope that at some point GW will give us an official balance mechanic. Maybe if AoS does as well as we all hope it will they will decide its worth doing.


There's nothing wrong with Unbound 40k at all. Lots of times, we play unbound, at least in the sense that what we want to field won't fit a formation or chart. It's particularly true of siege scenarios, because what you imagine defending a fortification is just not the same kind of force that you would to meet another army head on in a forest or a city.

It comes back to what makes AoS a good experience or not -- if you're playing with people who use unbound (or AoS army building) in a way to bend/break the rules, it doesn't turn out so well. If you're playing with people who field units that don't fit some chart, because there's a good reason to other than "it helps me win", that's just a whole other ball of wax.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/28 09:03:08


Post by: angelofvengeance


TrollSlayerThorak'Khun'Na wrote:

What's the best solution for stripping paint?


Biostrip20 = totes amaze-balls. By far the most thorough paint stripper I have ever seen. And not quite as disgusting as dousing it in Dettol etc.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/28 13:40:22


Post by: Mantorok


I have a small VC force, but I'm considering doing a hard turn into Bloodbound just because of how nice the models look.

Part of me is hoping for rumors of new models/battletomes for all the armies, that way I can either stick with VC or switch over to Seraphon, depending on which comes out first.

I'm torn between that and buying into Admech in 40k.
I won't be doing anything until I get the hell out of Africa and back to the US though.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/28 16:42:29


Post by: yellowfever


Well I have the two armies from the box. And some extra chaos on top of that. Plus a high elf and dwarf army. Problem is I moved and their doesn't appear to be any war gaming around here. So I'll see if my family picks it up. If not oh well.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/28 17:35:48


Post by: Mymearan


Reading the Ghal Maraz book at the moment, and getting really into the idea of creating a Nurgle/Skaven Pestilens force. Really love how they're depicted in the book. Maggot lords, Glottkin, all the Nurgle Demons, Plague Monks, a Vermin Lord... So cool.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, new goodies, yay!



General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/28 20:18:28


Post by: Bottle


Looks great man! My local GW is putting together a new Mortal Realms style board for us AoS players to play on. Can't wait to game with the new terrain! Getting bored of the old fields and forests the current WHFB table has haha


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/29 07:12:51


Post by: Johnroycomic


Just got back into GW after ten years because of AoS. Have 15 Stormcasts painted and just opened the box set. Will be looking for games in Los Angeles soon. Using sanguinary guard bare heads for every fifth Eternal gives them a little more personality.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/29 09:31:19


Post by: toasteroven


More personality is always good! Especially with those dudes.

Was it ever confirmed or denied that stormcast can come from every race? I want to see a heroic goblin who finds himself suddenly transformed into a giant metal warrior.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/29 09:35:59


Post by: MongooseMatt


 toasteroven wrote:


Was it ever confirmed or denied that stormcast can come from every race? I want to see a heroic goblin who finds himself suddenly transformed into a giant metal warrior.


Looks like it was just humans, and just those who called upon Sigmar at that.

Speaking of which, just finished off my flying division of my Stormhost!



With characters;



General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/29 09:44:35


Post by: toasteroven


They look quite nice! I always dreaded those style of models; the kind attached to the base with long thin bits. I haven't got the skills to not break them.

Disappointed about them only being human. So much potential to do something different with the faction, ignored.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/29 09:47:46


Post by: angelofvengeance


Loving the Prosecutors there Mongoose. Let us know how you get on with those spear and shield guys eh?


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/29 10:36:07


Post by: MongooseMatt


 toasteroven wrote:
They look quite nice! I always dreaded those style of models; the kind attached to the base with long thin bits. I haven't got the skills to not break them.


I was worried about that, but I think GW have been a bit clever here - they are very 'springy' and there is enough movement within them to take knocks and even drops without breakage. I know. I dropped one of the Prosecutors just before that photo was taken


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/29 10:57:52


Post by: Mymearan


LOVE that color scheme Matt! Great job indeed.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/29 12:02:15


Post by: angelofvengeance


 toasteroven wrote:

Disappointed about them only being human. So much potential to do something different with the faction, ignored.


Humans who are pretty much, immortal. When they die, they get sent back to Azyrheim and reforged. They're also super strong- take Retributors for example. Their hammers are so heavy that it would take 6 normal men to lift it.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/29 17:21:04


Post by: quiestdeus


Unsure if anyone reading this thread is up in the New England area... but I would definitely check out the Da Boyz AoS GT

More info can be found here: http://daboyzgt.com/ but the event really seems to be shaping up nicely!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/30 19:11:35


Post by: Bottle


As much as I am meh on Stormcasts, I approve of them being human males. For the same reason I approve of Death (Vampire Counts and Tomb Kimgs) all being humans (which makes less sense in the new fluff), it simply looks better to have the uniform size and appearance.

These armies would like terrible as a mismatch of different fantasy races in my opinion.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/30 22:17:55


Post by: Jack Flask


 Bottle wrote:
As much as I am meh on Stormcasts, I approve of them being human males. For the same reason I approve of Death (Vampire Counts and Tomb Kimgs) all being humans (which makes less sense in the new fluff), it simply looks better to have the uniform size and appearance.

These armies would like terrible as a mismatch of different fantasy races in my opinion.


As models you mean? or In lore?

I feel like lore wise, if there aren't any non-human Stormcast it still would make sense to have female members even if they don't explicitly have models. I mean Chaos has at least two female characters I can think of, Valkia the Bloody and Selkhara the Black, so its not as if GW is against having any female soldiers. Not to mention with the AoS fluff being so new (and by extension very sparse) I think its not out of the realm of possibility that the picture of what is a Stormcast will broaden as more is written.

Model wise, I don't really know how different a female Stormcast would look anyway. The armor is pretty large so likely it wouldn't need to be sized or shaped much different, especially if we assume that Sigmar's forging process likely enhances all of his soldiers into a similar body-builder physique. I'm actually planning on mixing some female Stormcast into my army and the only real change I think would make sense outside of maybe female heads on commanders would be to slightly round the fronts of liberator/judicator/prosecutor chest plates, but honestly I'm not sure whether it would even look good or be necessary.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/09/30 23:39:30


Post by: quiestdeus


Jack Flask wrote:
 Bottle wrote:
As much as I am meh on Stormcasts, I approve of them being human males. For the same reason I approve of Death (Vampire Counts and Tomb Kimgs) all being humans (which makes less sense in the new fluff), it simply looks better to have the uniform size and appearance.

These armies would like terrible as a mismatch of different fantasy races in my opinion.


As models you mean? or In lore?

I feel like lore wise, if there aren't any non-human Stormcast it still would make sense to have female members even if they don't explicitly have models. I mean Chaos has at least two female characters I can think of, Valkia the Bloody and Selkhara the Black, so its not as if GW is against having any female soldiers. Not to mention with the AoS fluff being so new (and by extension very sparse) I think its not out of the realm of possibility that the picture of what is a Stormcast will broaden as more is written.

Model wise, I don't really know how different a female Stormcast would look anyway. The armor is pretty large so likely it wouldn't need to be sized or shaped much different, especially if we assume that Sigmar's forging process likely enhances all of his soldiers into a similar body-builder physique. I'm actually planning on mixing some female Stormcast into my army and the only real change I think would make sense outside of maybe female heads on commanders would be to slightly round the fronts of liberator/judicator/prosecutor chest plates, but honestly I'm not sure whether it would even look good or be necessary.


I honestly considered repurposing my extra Sisters of Battle to give my Stormcast starter box force a bit of variety, but the models honestly just look dated next to the new plastics. I am hopeful the latest Raging Heroes kickstarter may have some useful minis but they definitely may be too sci-fi-y to convert properly.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/01 00:51:23


Post by: Jack Flask


quiestdeus wrote:
I honestly considered repurposing my extra Sisters of Battle to give my Stormcast starter box force a bit of variety, but the models honestly just look dated next to the new plastics. I am hopeful the latest Raging Heroes kickstarter may have some useful minis but they definitely may be too sci-fi-y to convert properly.


I'm actually going to be kitbashing a female Lord Celestant using a female head from Statuesque, so I'll take pictures once I have everything in hand and assembled. Also I'm not sure if you know but the second Raging Heroes kickstarter has both fantasy and sci-fi versions of almost all of the miniatures. They're shown after all of the sci-fi ones.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/02 20:50:50


Post by: lare2


RoperPG wrote:
lare2 wrote:
Loving this post and loving AoS. I'm optimistic about the game and think it's a great place from which GW's fantasy can grow and develop. For the past 2 years or so I'd moved over to historical gaming but AoS brought me back into the fold. I still struggle with the lack of a points system though. I know it's a touchy subject but I'd like to see this option included in the future. I'm slowly reading the rules of 40k so forgive me if I've got this wrong but unbound says models have a cost but agree on a points limit and field what you want. Couldn't they have just done this with AoS? Anywho, i'm optimistic they will!

Kinda. Unbound has drawbacks compared to using force orgs/formations, the most common one being is that most units in an unbound force can't contest objectives - so if you go unbound, you need to figure out a force that can obliterate your opponent because that is your only option for winning.
If you're struggling with the lack of points, I'd seriously recommend just playing scenarios for a while.
They focus your game plan, and it becomes far less a case of how much someone has, but whether they have the right tools for the job.
I've lost games where I realised I could have won with half the stuff but a more targeted selection.


I've heard, and read here, great things about scenarios but haven't managed to play one yet. The group I play with isn't very tight and I think that's where I've experienced some balance issues.

To be honest though, balance doesn't bother me too much as I'm just happy to have a game. If i lose, I lose! My main love of points is list building. I love nothing better than compiling an army list... Especially when I'm bored at work.

I've taken to list building using some of the comps available. The best I've seen are Azyr, PPC, and clash. As said my group aren't tight and I've not brought these up with them (yet) but in currently building a VC force (typing this whilst some glue dries on my brand spanking new vampire lord on a zombie dragon) with these systems in mind! My army's gonna be a lean, mean, flesh -eating machine!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/02 21:36:51


Post by: usernamesareannoying


4 pages in and this thread is still positive, I'm amazed. Good job guys.
Now. .. what do you guys think about converting stormcast to chaos to represent tzeentch?


Not as chaos stormcast mind you, just as super cool models


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/02 21:44:29


Post by: TheCustomLime


Well, there's a time and a place to criticize AoS and this isn't it. I am so far enjoying what GW is doing with the models and story. I'm looking forward to assembling a Stormcast Eternal force. I might covert some leaders to not wear helmets.

To make SE more Tzeentch in nature would require a lot of custom sculpting. I mean if you can pull it off it would look great but that's a lot of work.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/02 22:08:09


Post by: shinros


Seriously I am in the undead mood after lisetning to prisoner of the black sun audiobook. Nagash's bit is awesome. Going to get more undead and one thing I personally like in the setting is the various origins of the characters. For example we have two stormcast from the realm of death one does worship sigmar and the other didn't..The one who did lived in the world death and is a part of the hallowed knights who are all about faith in sigmar. So who knows there might actually be aelf's living in the realm of death there might even be aelf necromancers and vampires considering there is precedence for it in end times.

Thinking about grabbing a coven throne for my von carstien army. I like the thought of converting heroes into vampires. Funny enough those Prosecutors paint scheme is similar to the hallowed knights apart from a slightly brighter blue I have a feeling the black library writers like them a lot since they have had the best stories so far in the realm gate wars series.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/03 02:58:39


Post by: quiestdeus


Ha! You and me both! I have started a Vamp force primarily of Vargheists, a Coven Throne, and a varghulf... and man, those models are GORGEOUS on circle bases. I am still waiting for resin bases to arrive to base them properly, but I am loving them on even the plain black plastic bases.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/03 07:12:43


Post by: Bottle


Yes, there is nothing sweeter than undead plastics on round bases :-) I'm working on a Tomb Banshee, and Cairn Wraith and 5 Hexwraiths this weekend to add to my growing force. :-)




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 usernamesareannoying wrote:
4 pages in and this thread is still positive, I'm amazed. Good job guys.
Now. .. what do you guys think about converting stormcast to chaos to represent tzeentch?


Not as chaos stormcast mind you, just as super cool models


I think you could do this easy! As long as you had loads of thousand son's style helmets (maybe that's the hard part...)

Headswaps for all, sword and shield swaps for all, and cleaning off the thunder bolts on the shoulder pauldrons. done


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/03 07:16:34


Post by: lare2


 Bottle wrote:
Yes, there is nothing sweeter than undead plastics on round bases :-) I'm working on a Tomb Banshee, and Cairn Wraith and 5 Hexwraiths this weekend to add to my growing force. :-)



Ha! This was exactly my thoughts as well. The VC force I'm building are all on round bases and I think they look awesome! I've been using 25mm for most infantry and my zombies and skellies look great!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/03 07:47:12


Post by: toasteroven


So, continuing on my earlier post, I ended up with a small force of beastmen. 40 gors, 20 ungor raiders, a bray shaman and... 1 bestigor, who I guess I can use as a beastlord for now.

My plan is to paint them in a bunch of different colors, because I hate painting brown over and over again. I've also got a few heads that I think are from plague bearers? I'm going to do some trimming and put a few of them on gors. After all, they still have horns.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/03 09:02:42


Post by: NAVARRO


quiestdeus wrote:
Ha! You and me both! I have started a Vamp force primarily of Vargheists, a Coven Throne, and a varghulf... and man, those models are GORGEOUS on circle bases. I am still waiting for resin bases to arrive to base them properly, but I am loving them on even the plain black plastic bases.


The 32mm's round bases are my new drug I love them so much. Been rebasing my Black orcs now and they look awesome on those.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/03 09:08:15


Post by: Bottle


Yes! All models that were on 25mm squares look Soo good on 32mm rounds.

My fav though is cavalry going onto the small oval bases. Looks amazing


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/03 09:23:49


Post by: MongooseMatt


 toasteroven wrote:
So, continuing on my earlier post, I ended up with a small force of beastmen. 40 gors, 20 ungor raiders, a bray shaman and... 1 bestigor, who I guess I can use as a beastlord for now.


What colour are you doing their armour/cloth?

I am looking at doing a small Beastman army myself to join in the campaign battles in the Realm of Life, but I think I will do them a 'god-neutral' black for armour and/or clothing rather than strictly Nurgle. At the end of the day, I only want to do one set of Beastmen


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/03 09:44:52


Post by: toasteroven


Just copperish for their armor, basic blues and greens for the cloth. Their strange body colors are the focus, so I'm not doing much elsewhere.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/03 14:35:27


Post by: quiestdeus


 Bottle wrote:
Yes, there is nothing sweeter than undead plastics on round bases :-) I'm working on a Tomb Banshee, and Cairn Wraith and 5 Hexwraiths this weekend to add to my growing force. :-)


Oh man Bottle... I made the mistake of clicking on your gallery... your models are amazing!!!

I can't wait to see these new additions to Siegfried's Desperados


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/03 16:27:31


Post by: TrollSlayerThorak'Khun'Na


Round bases are great. Square bases immediately look old fashioned and bad now. The only thing I am not keen on are the oval bases for some of the monsters like the khorgorath and dracoth. I find they're situated in a weird way and look a bit off when those models are actually in play. Almost as if they move sideways into combat, rather than a narrow end pointing forward.

My only painful question now is whether to put my Bloodletters on 32mm. I feel like they are meant to be on 32, though the box comes with 25. I'm guessing GW is not going to rebox all their daemons to make that change though.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/03 16:54:12


Post by: Bottle


quiestdeus wrote:
 Bottle wrote:
Yes, there is nothing sweeter than undead plastics on round bases :-) I'm working on a Tomb Banshee, and Cairn Wraith and 5 Hexwraiths this weekend to add to my growing force. :-)


Oh man Bottle... I made the mistake of clicking on your gallery... your models are amazing!!!

I can't wait to see these new additions to Siegfried's Desperados


Thanks a lot!

There's a lot more coming soon :-)

Vampire Counts, Dwarfs, Elves, Empire... I just can't say no since Age of Sigmar dropped!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/03 22:59:58


Post by: Mymearan


Painting the Numinous Occulum atm... LOVING this terrain, and Liberator Gold is such an amazing paint. Probably won't be touching any other gold paints now...






General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/04 04:53:40


Post by: TheCustomLime


Nice terrain you have there!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/04 08:52:57


Post by: Talys


@Mymearan - Frankly, the BEST thing that came out of AoS for me is Retributor and Liberator Gold, LOL. As much as I love some of the models, I absolutely adore Retributor for coverage, and Liberator for as a final highlight (instead of silver).

The coverage on Retributor is out of this world compared to other brands' "yellow" golds, IMO.




General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/04 08:55:01


Post by: angelofvengeance


That looks fantastic Mymearan. Can't wait to see some in-game pics of it.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/04 12:44:55


Post by: Thraxas Of Turai


Great idea for a thread, personally I love AOS. It is great for tiny 20 model a side skirmishes and bigger battles and it has re-invigorated my love of the hobby. The starter set is a cracking purchase too.

Here is my Goretide, and one of the Realmgates:




General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/04 16:45:39


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


Thraxas, have an exalt for that painting


Much as I love AoS, the ONE thing I wish for, if simply for the fact my store is in a campaign, is that some of the slightly older WHFB terrain were available again. Since Im an Empire player, I just saw the rules for the Fortified Manor terrain, but I can't buy it through my store :(


But I think it's awesome that there are actually a number of terrain groups, special rules and the like instead of the old, "ohh look, there's a buttload of trees, they give a cover save"


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/04 17:50:35


Post by: Talys


Yeah, that is a great Goretide, Thaxas!

@Ensis Ferrae - you know, the funny thing is, I was so happy that the old terrain is phased out simply because it all went on sale, and I was able to snap up stuff I never bought for 50%.. or more... off of current retail! My collection of old Fantasy terrain (new in the box) is beefing up, and making me want to paint it


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/05 00:28:14


Post by: Rotgut


To be honest I started getting further and further away from wargaming the more busy Ive been the past few years.

When AoS was announced I ended up looking at the set and thinking it looked awesome, so I picked up the white dwarf that had the stormcast guy in it. Painting that first figure after a few years of being out of the hobby was really nice, I forgot how relaxing the painting part could be.

So Im pretty invested now, Ive read the first book that came out, (gate of azyr? or something like that) and have started collecting some different small skirmish size factions to play some small games with my friends and my son. AoS ended up bringing me back into the hobby that I no longer had any interest in. (that and my son is old enough to be able to play now)





General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/05 02:20:29


Post by: Thraxas Of Turai


That is great to hear Rotgut. I think painting gives me the greatest joy too. The fact that you can play AOS with your Son and friends is great too, and all it takes is a few units and a character or two to get a game in .


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/05 08:14:22


Post by: MongooseMatt


This weekend's completed project - the Skull Keep from the Chaos Dreadhold range;



Now I have to do some more Chaos guys to fill it!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/05 08:20:44


Post by: angelofvengeance


Niiice Matt How long did that take?


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/05 09:11:11


Post by: MongooseMatt


 angelofvengeance wrote:
Niiice Matt How long did that take?


If you sat down and did little else... you could probably do it over a lazy Saturday afternoon, with lots of waiting for drying time.

As it was, I did one side in gold per evening last week, with the shading of it on Friday night. The rest was over the weekend in between a whole bunch of other models.

It really does not take long but you will need a lot of paint


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/05 09:25:56


Post by: angelofvengeance


Does look like it's a paint devourer lol.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/05 09:28:23


Post by: toasteroven


I like the color choice. Not a fan of the terrain itself, but that's the best I've seen it.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/05 11:33:06


Post by: Bottle


Matt, any chance we can see your entire AOS collection in one shot? You seem to post a fully painted unit every other day! :-)


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/05 12:53:41


Post by: Baron Klatz


Awesome job on that skull keep! Your models are also really impressive. Bravo!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/05 13:16:10


Post by: MongooseMatt


 Bottle wrote:
Matt, any chance we can see your entire AOS collection in one shot? You seem to post a fully painted unit every other day! :-)


Yeah, you see, I always end up doing this - started off a little Dark Angels army a few years ago. I now have to count it up by company...

Short answer, I don't think they will fit into one shot

Thing is, I am not even mad about painting. It is just that when I get back from work, like many people, I like watching the TV. Trouble is, I can't just sit there and watch, I have to do something. Painting fits the need perfectly.

Give me a good DVD box set, and I'll churn out a whole army

So, as it stands, I have a sizeable Bloodbound force of about 100-odd models, the Stormcasts are seriously getting towards similar numbers, got pint-sized forces for Sylvaneth and Pestilens, and Nurgle and Tzeentch forces are just getting started (Blight Kings on the table right now!).

Still, managing to get some use out of the models too - in about an hour got a game going from one of the Battleplans in the Stormcast book...


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/05 14:42:32


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


MongooseMatt wrote:

Short answer, I don't think they will fit into one shot



Ohh, I dont know... With the right landscape/panoramic lenses you could probably get everything in there... But then when you post it, it may get confused with Epic models


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/06 08:37:10


Post by: Talys


MongooseMatt wrote:
Give me a good DVD box set, and I'll churn out a whole army


LOL, that's me!!

My painting output is often directly proportional to the number of good but not totally awesome TV shows that I want to watch. The great ones, I won't paint during. My painting shows need to have good dialogue, a decent plot, and drama that can be enjoyed without watching the screen (much).

I've watched a couple of shows without ever seeing the actors, then watched them again with my wife, and then gone, holy crap, that guy is incredibly annoying. Ironically, just listening to the voice, I liked the character just fine.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/06 09:53:33


Post by: MongooseMatt


We got round to those game last night - the Lightning Strikes battleplan from the Stormcasts book, and the Reclaim the Fallen from the Khorne Bloodbound book. Both make for a good start to the campaign in the Realm of Fire, and would recommend them thoroughly!



More piccies and the full report here;

https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2015/10/06/reclaim-the-fallen/


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/06 12:05:27


Post by: Mymearan


Great report Matt! Sounds like some fun scenarios indeed.

Speaking of which, I played a couple of games myself this past sunday! Managed to snap a couple of pics of the second game, which was the "A Forlorn Hope" Battleplan from the app. It's a siege scenario, where the defender of the fortress simply has to survive for six turns. We added a rule where the attacker could destroy the walls, to make it more exciting. The walls had 20 wounds and a 4+ save, which proved to be just right!

The Bloodbound (defenders) player only had the starter box models. I played Stormcast and simply put everything I brought on the table, which apart from the starter box also included 10 Judicators, 5 Decimators, a Heraldor and a Lord Castellant.



The Stormcast have advanced as quickly as possibly, with Vandus taking the lead and charging through the fortress gate.



Vandus is torn to pieces by the combination of Khul, a Khorgorath and his own Heraldor causing the earth to shake and chunks of wall to fall down, injuring Stormcast and Bloodbound alike. The Lord Castellant bravely steps up to take Khul on, while the Judicators pelt the walls with arrows of light and the rest of the army prepares to take down the walls with their axes and hammers.



The walls have been breached! Unfortunately the Lord Castellant is caught under the rubble, but nor before taking out both Khul and the Khorgorath. The Decimators wade in and utterly destroy a 20-man unit of Bloodreavers, their mighty axes taking out scores of opponents with each swipe. The Bloodbound army is in shambles, and the last two Blood Warriors and the Bloodsecrator charge the Stormcast, screaming their litanies to Khorne. The battle ends there, and since the Stormcast have failed to take out the remaining three Khornate warriors, the Bloodbound have taken the day!

This game was SO much fun. We didn't use any comp system, we just winged it, even adding the "destroy the walls" rule which proved to be both necessary (because of the tiny gate) and a lot of fun. I really loved the Heraldor and his ability to shake the walls to their foundations, but since my guys were right there as well, I think he killed an equal amount of models on both sides :-D

My opponent also pointed out that two of my most important weapons in this fight turned out to be a lantern and a trumpet

Would certainly recommend this scenario for a fun narrative battle. I also really got to see how quick this game plays! We played two games in less than four hours, including lunch and a lot of simply hanging out and talking. Such a huge difference from the often grueling 40k sessions which last an entire afternoon. Two thumbs up!







General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/06 12:51:34


Post by: MongooseMatt


 Mymearan wrote:
The Decimators wade in and utterly destroy a 20-man unit of Bloodreavers,


The Decimators are very, very good against Bloodreavers, aren't they?


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/06 13:24:25


Post by: Mymearan


With 5-7 attacks each and half a wound on average per attack... Yes they are


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/06 22:51:26


Post by: TheCustomLime


I decided to dust off my Warriors of Chaos collection to paint up for AoS. Show the new cats how the OGs did it back in the day.

Not gonna like I'm kind of excited to being able to field the more exotic WoC units like the Mutalith or the Warshrine.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/11 16:29:21


Post by: Baron Klatz


Looks like Tomb kings are going to get some mention soon.

http://z4.invisionfree.com/Khemri/index.php?showtopic=15966


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/11 17:53:13


Post by: Bottle


Exciting!! I wonder if we'll see more Death releases!? Or maybe just a repackaging of the End Times stuff. Anyway, that's got me excited :-D


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/11 18:34:28


Post by: shinros


 Bottle wrote:
Exciting!! I wonder if we'll see more Death releases!? Or maybe just a repackaging of the End Times stuff. Anyway, that's got me excited :-D


Well it seems that way considering that the death realm is getting a 4 part audio CD. In the first one the first 4 minutes and 40 seconds is of nagash giving an epic speech on how he will endure everything that chaos and other people to do to him and how he is rising again after his defeat by Archeon. One of his line is him giving those who believe in him and those who do his will this order, this is the quote (which is rather epic btw) "Seek out my foes and make them yours! Take from them as they have taken from me!"

He is not exactly a happy lich since he considers stormcast/sigmar as thieves and chaos as invaders of his realm. Oh and a certain von Carstein is still alive in aos. I assume he is writing about one of the tomb king characters since there are 8 storm hosts in the realm of death looking for the gates of the underworld or the gate to stygix since they seek and audience with nagash.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/16 10:24:39


Post by: Mymearan


I really want to listen to that audio drama!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/16 10:34:51


Post by: angelofvengeance


 Mymearan wrote:
I really want to listen to that audio drama!


You should, it's good stuff! Nagash sounds awesome in the opening 5mins.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/22 08:06:08


Post by: CoreCommander


For all you AoS optimists, here's what I found:

KIll the messenger Battleplan
Time of War - The Endless Deserts

both via Mengel Miniatures

If these were already posted - sorry. Otherwise - enjoy.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/22 14:46:13


Post by: Baron Klatz


It seems that AoS has fixed more than the in-game problems.

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php/topic,51164.0.html


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/22 14:49:12


Post by: MongooseMatt


 CoreCommander wrote:


If these were already posted - sorry. Otherwise - enjoy.


Thanks for posting those, that is a brilliant site - hope he does more!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/22 14:55:47


Post by: CoreCommander


Baron Klatz wrote:
It seems that AoS has fixed more than the in-game problems.

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php/topic,51164.0.html


Oh man, you don't know how useful these old bendy sticks were even if the inches were off! I've unclogged the johnny in a flat, I used to live in, no less than three times using the old sticks when all else failed... So for me this is definitely not an improvement as the new ones are sturdier


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/22 16:00:18


Post by: Baron Klatz


Hahaha! You certainly know how to get the maximum value out of your hobby supplies.

Did you end up calling them Nurgle sticks?


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/22 23:52:41


Post by: JohnHwangDD


The red sticks are great! Cut them in half, and use them to mark deployment zones!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/23 00:52:40


Post by: FlightMedic


Broke down and ordered the Ophidian Archway, a box of Judicators, more Liberators and Lord Celestant. Haven't played in weeks but I've been busy painting and modeling. Hoping to get a couple games in next week.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/23 03:52:41


Post by: Drone21c


I know I’m coming to this thread late but I’m an AoS optimist too. It’s given my little gaming group of jaded old ex-GW staff a boost of hobby energy and seen us playing Warhammer games for the first time in years.

I’ve been working some Khorne stuff from the game box. These are amazing models. I can’t rave about them enough. They are, to me, the all the old iconic WoC art made into models.







I'm going to grind through the game box over the next few months and then start some Nurgle stuff. I'm also thinking I'll have to rebase my existing WoC army on round bases. I'm not looking forward to that 'cos it feels like ruining my hard work; it's not but it still feels wrong!

More on my blog: http://beneaththemirehobby.blogspot.com.au/


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/23 04:00:54


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


 Drone21c wrote:
I'm also thinking I'll have to rebase my existing WoC army on round bases. I'm not looking forward to that 'cos it feels like ruining my hard work; it's not but it still feels wrong!



Great thing about the game though, is that you don't actually NEED to rebase any of your old stuff. The only stuff that I have in my Empire army on round bases, are things that I had absolutely zero of prior to AoS coming out.... So my Karl Franz is "square based" as are all my knights and greatswords.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/23 04:52:38


Post by: Bottle


Circle bases make pile-in and combat so much smoother, however.

Absolutely incredible work Drone21c!!! Please post some more :-)


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/23 05:59:27


Post by: Baron Klatz


Agreed on both counts, circle bases make models look better(imo) and behave better in combat and that Drone21c's skills are top-notch.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/23 06:04:30


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


Baron Klatz wrote:
Agreed on both counts, circle bases make models look better(imo) and behave better in combat and that Drone21c's skills are top-notch.



Personal preference for me.... I mean, for instance, my greatswords, when on a display board simply look better ranked up (which isn't so easy with rounds), but the artillery crew for my cannons are on rounds because why not? because they aren't really getting into any fights, and their only requirement is to be within a distance of the gun, the rounds allow me to do more with their bases and that makes them look better.




General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/23 06:23:51


Post by: Baron Klatz


Haha, I was worried I might be a bit abrasive in saying that.

My own army is seeing alot of both bases as I want my knights to be ready for any game I come across. (8th,9th,EEFL,AoS, KoW, FG)

Luckily we can choose which we think looks best. (Or are too lazy to rebase, like me)


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/23 07:06:10


Post by: Drone21c


I don't NEED to re-base my models but as Bottle said they work better in the game and I agree with Baron Klatz that the look much better. Plus my hobby OCD won't allow square bases and round ones in the same army. It hurts me now to put the new stuff with my old army. I'm also struggling with it because it is kissing goodbye to the old-style Warhammer that I've played on and off for twenty years.

And thanks for the kind words. I'll post more when I can.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/23 08:16:21


Post by: angelofvengeance


Loving your paint job on Threx Skullbrand there, Drone!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/23 16:19:50


Post by: Red_Zeke


Yeah, that Bloodsecrator is totally ace. Great looking!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/23 20:51:58


Post by: CoreCommander


Lizardmen are completely gone from the webstore so now there's no doubt at all which is the next faction being repackaged.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/23 21:01:20


Post by: pox


I'm currently rebasing my bigger models, The one thing that sticks in my craw is there is no 20MM round base.

Its actually a huge deal, you can fit many more rats into combat on the smaller square bases then with round, especially with spear units.

I'll probably wind up breaking up my slave and clan units and putting onto rounds, because they are on regimental bases right now. All my old metal plague monks and stormvermin will probably stay on the squares for now.

I may wind up just making some 20mm round bases for continuity, but I'll worry about that when everything else is rebased.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/24 00:46:35


Post by: toasteroven


 CoreCommander wrote:
Lizardmen are completely gone from the webstore so now there's no doubt at all which is the next faction being repackaged.


Whoa. They really are.

Huh.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/24 00:52:26


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


 toasteroven wrote:
 CoreCommander wrote:
Lizardmen are completely gone from the webstore so now there's no doubt at all which is the next faction being repackaged.


Whoa. They really are.

Huh.



Not to say I didn't believe y'all, but I even used the search function for units that I knew off the top of my head, and nothin....


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/24 02:39:52


Post by: Sqorgar


I'm excited. It was THIS close to playing WHFB because I liked the Lizardmen army (my favorite part of Warhammer: Invasion too), but I didn't want to buy and paint 100 figures I didn't like to get the ones that I did. AoS's more open approach to army building means I can just get the figures I like, every once in a while. Of all the missing races, Lizardmen were the ones I am most looking forward to. It might be too much to hope for, but I'm hoping for new sculpts on some of the grunt figures and some terrain options. Of course, I expect a battletome and another campaign book as well.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/24 04:26:49


Post by: FlightMedic


Bottle wrote:Absolutely incredible work Drone21c!!! Please post some more :-)


Baron Klatz wrote:Drone21c's skills are top-notch.


angelofvengeance wrote:Loving your paint job on Threx Skullbrand there, Drone!


Red_Zeke wrote:Yeah, that Bloodsecrator is totally ace. Great looking!


Its been said a lot but I will echo all of these statements; that paint job is amazing. Feel free to show off more work in this thread.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/24 05:02:43


Post by: Baron Klatz


The Lizardmen situation is very interesting.

If GW make the next update like the previous one. (new models: Stormcast, Khorne. Rebased models: Sylvaneth, Skaven/Nurgle)

Then I'm betting new models of Seraphon and Tzeentch (spelling? ) with rebased Duardin and undead.

Purely guessing of course.



General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/24 14:20:44


Post by: toasteroven


I'm... cautiously worried/optimistic. I quite like the lizardmen models that exist now. And of course, them being gone from the store doesn't really say much beyond "they're gone from the store." But this could be the first really big change to one of the old armies, and that could finally give an idea about how everything else might be handled, so... Potentially hopeful?

I'm glad I picked up my bastiladon when I did, at least.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/24 15:18:02


Post by: coldgaming


I'm guessing Lizardmen are getting the Rotbringers/Sylvaneth/Pestilens treatment. I'd be very surprised to see any new units or even a battle tome. Would love to be proven wrong though.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/24 17:00:28


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


coldgaming wrote:
I'm guessing Lizardmen are getting the Rotbringers/Sylvaneth/Pestilens treatment. I'd be very surprised to see any new units or even a battle tome. Would love to be proven wrong though.



This would be my guess as well... I was at my shop yesterday, and all of the current Lizardman stock is still on the shelf there. This sorta tells me that they aren't being deleted, but rather we should be expecting something coming down in the next short while.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/24 19:56:19


Post by: Bottle


It seems likely that there will be another campaign book to go with them then.

Can't believe another campaign book is getting released already lol.

Still, very excited to see what is coming!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/24 20:26:34


Post by: Sqorgar


 Bottle wrote:
It seems likely that there will be another campaign book to go with them then.

Can't believe another campaign book is getting released already lol.
They released two in the first wave, but I think the first book was more of a general background book, while Realmgate Wars 1 was the campaign book. It's been six months, so Realmgate Wars 2 seems pretty likely.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/24 20:40:41


Post by: Bottle


6 months? Quest for Ghal Maraz came out late August? It's still October. That's 2 months.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/24 21:16:35


Post by: Sqorgar


 Bottle wrote:
6 months? Quest for Ghal Maraz came out late August? It's still October. That's 2 months.
I was counting from July to December. July was when AoS was released, but I guess RGW1 was a later release, and December because that's when I heard the AoS window was (November is going to be Horus Heresy apparently).

I guess if they start doing Lizardmen now, it will just be rebases with no campaign book, since there's no way they'll get that done in the two weeks between announcing HH and releasing it. It would also mean that LIzardmen won't be a full faction and would be more like the Pestilens as a smaller auxiliary faciton.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/24 21:18:59


Post by: Bottle


That makes sense. Still feels too quick to me. If Death are involved it's going to be the first campaign book I buy though :-)


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/24 23:14:07


Post by: toasteroven


 Sqorgar wrote:
It would also mean that LIzardmen won't be a full faction and would be more like the Pestilens as a smaller auxiliary faciton.


Bah.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/25 11:01:56


Post by: Bottle


 toasteroven wrote:
 Sqorgar wrote:
It would also mean that LIzardmen won't be a full faction and would be more like the Pestilens as a smaller auxiliary faciton.


Bah.


I'm sure we'll see more Skaven as different mini-factions in the future, so even if a handle of Lizardmen are grouped together into a mini-faction it is no cause to worry imo.

The fact that the entire range has been taken from the webstore is interesting though.

As someone from the sidelines, can't wait to see the outcome really.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/25 11:31:00


Post by: toasteroven


Yeah, maybe I'm being too negative. I suppose they might split them up between skinks and saurus? I don't know. I don't know!

It just seems like the fate of the lizardmen keeps getting thrown up in the air. Rough time to be a fan.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/25 12:44:23


Post by: RoperPG


 toasteroven wrote:
Yeah, maybe I'm being too negative. I suppose they might split them up between skinks and saurus? I don't know. I don't know!

It just seems like the fate of the lizardmen keeps getting thrown up in the air. Rough time to be a fan.

If GW retire kits full stop, they tend to go web-only and remain there until stock disappears.
If GW are replacing a kit, it's normally with only 2-4 weeks notice. There's nothing in rumours to indicate anything big coming in the release window for the next couple of months, Xmas being Xmas, and November expected to be HH for the whole month - doesn't seem to be any space to redo the whole line...
But as we've seen with the Sylvaneth, Skaven and the Bloodborne stuff, reboxing is a block removal of kits from the website, then they just reappear.
I will be extremely surprised if this is anything other than all the kits being reboxed, and re-released over the next fortnight.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/27 01:03:17


Post by: shinros


Well it seems we are getting the next part to the realm gate wars audio series "sands of blood"?

Is this the tomb king audio book? OMG OMG can't wait for it.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/27 19:25:05


Post by: Baron Klatz


Not really a Tomb king fan but I'm looking forward to it as well.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/27 19:30:51


Post by: JohnHwangDD


 toasteroven wrote:
It just seems like the fate of the lizardmen keeps getting thrown up in the air. Rough time to be a fan.


Aren't Seraphon getting the next book, according to Taco Bell?

That's some love right there!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/27 19:36:04


Post by: Bottle


Yeah all the rumours said Lizardmen were the race getting dropped and it turned out they are the first to transfer across haha


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/27 20:51:36


Post by: toasteroven


JohnHwangDD wrote:
 toasteroven wrote:
It just seems like the fate of the lizardmen keeps getting thrown up in the air. Rough time to be a fan.


Aren't Seraphon getting the next book, according to Taco Bell?

That's some love right there!


I guess so! It's good to be wrong sometimes.

Bottle wrote:Yeah all the rumours said Lizardmen were the race getting dropped and it turned out they are the first to transfer across haha


I mean, it was basically like half a year of uncertainty, wasn't it? I remember people at the end of End Times going on about how lizardmen were totally going to be gone forever.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/27 20:55:00


Post by: Bottle


Yeah, remember that story about the kid who dumped all his Lizardmen in his local GW and stormed off? If it was true, I wonder what he thinks now...

The pictures coming out look really interesting. I like the Lizardmen's new "star" theme. The art looks good, and I haven't been a fan of AoS's art for the most part so far.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/28 20:46:34


Post by: monders


My old Lizardman army had Star Metal weapons because I'm lazy and just painted everything silver. Quite happy about that now!

I'm sad that they aren't getting new sculpts. The Saurus and TG are awful. The same leg stance looks ridiculous.

Hoping to get an AoS game in with them soon though, and if I like it I may look at rebasing and painting them.

Guild ball is my current passion, but variety is the spice of life!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/10/28 21:03:49


Post by: JohnHwangDD


To be fair, LM were about Celestial stuff in the Fluff, so emphasizing it is a good thing.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/11/01 14:20:25


Post by: RamRam


Alright, I sold all my 40k. I'm bored and done with it. Ready to get into Age of Sigmar asap. I'm so hype about this new setting for the Fantasy range, it makes so munch sense to play this way for me.

I'm first a painter and a collector of miniatures. I do like to play, but winning is not my goal. What I really like is looking at great miniatures on a board full of sceneries, that's what gives me the wow effect. The thin rules makes me feel I will be able to get in this game fast, without thinking about upgrades, combos, not using very nice miniatures because they don't have good rules. It's like freestyle gaming and it's actually innovative. I can see why it creates big ripples in the community.

Now, where to start!!?? I'm thinking Sylvaneth with Dwarfs!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/11/01 17:00:27


Post by: Mymearan


Sylvaneth are really cool and they have that big box that saves you 20% I think, so I would start there!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/11/01 17:05:53


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


 Mymearan wrote:
Sylvaneth are really cool and they have that big box that saves you 20% I think, so I would start there!



That, and their special character "ancient tree" dude is apparently boss on the table.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/11/04 19:30:27


Post by: autumnlotus


Not exactly an optimist about the system (coughcoughragequitcough), butbto remain positive I will say this: for all my dislike for the sigmarines I will accept that the khorne models are amazing. I already have the starter boxs khorne sections being built up in my downtime and intend to grab most of the new models. I do play the game rarely with a friend, though it's likely going to be converted for daemonkin for 40k and paint them reddish-orange.

As a side note I am verrrrry interested to see what they do with dark elves and night goblins, as new models for either would be much appreciated


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/11/04 22:51:56


Post by: Mymearan


Just got myself the Ghal Maraz book, a Dragonfate Dias and 17 metal Bestigor+4 Beastman characters for a great price used... Looking forward to pitting my Stormcast against a combined force of Warriors/Beastmen :-D also now I have both the Numinous Occulum, Ophidian Archeay and Dragonfate Dais. I'm chuffed!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/11/07 01:39:32


Post by: Eldarain


Been listening to the Heelanhammer and Garagehammer podcasts recently. Good stuff.

Any recommendation for sites, blogs and battle reports you've particularly enjoyed?


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/11/07 01:50:27


Post by: Bottle


I recommend Tabletop Minis on YouTube. They always have really fun AoS battle reports.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/11/07 02:42:34


Post by: War Kitten


I'm a fan of MWG and their Fantasy/AOS batreps. While not the best on rules, it's still great fun to watch.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/11/07 13:51:47


Post by: Red_Zeke


Bottle wrote:I recommend Tabletop Minis on YouTube. They always have really fun AoS battle reports.


Yeah! I've really liked those as well. Tables look good, and the guys legitimately look to be enjoying themselves.

Eldarain wrote:Been listening to the Heelanhammer and Garagehammer podcasts recently. Good stuff.

Any recommendation for sites, blogs and battle reports you've particularly enjoyed?


I don't know if this is tacky to self-plug here, but I've started an AoS podcast with a couple other guys here with the express mission statement to be positive about the hobby. We call it The Mortal Realms and we're up to the 3rd episode (just released last night).


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/11/07 15:12:33


Post by: Mymearan


Bad Dice is a great AoS podcast as well.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/11/08 00:53:31


Post by: Eldarain


 Red_Zeke wrote:
Bottle wrote:I recommend Tabletop Minis on YouTube. They always have really fun AoS battle reports.


Yeah! I've really liked those as well. Tables look good, and the guys legitimately look to be enjoying themselves.

Will definitely check them out. Thanks.

 Red_Zeke wrote:

Eldarain wrote:Been listening to the Heelanhammer and Garagehammer podcasts recently. Good stuff.

Any recommendation for sites, blogs and battle reports you've particularly enjoyed?


I don't know if this is tacky to self-plug here, but I've started an AoS podcast with a couple other guys here with the express mission statement to be positive about the hobby. We call it The Mortal Realms and we're up to the 3rd episode (just released last night).

Not at all. Thanks. Subscribed and listened to the first episode. Really well done. I like the format with the different phases. There were a couple audio issues but hopefully that was just an initial episode hiccup. Really looking forward to getting caught up.

 Mymearan wrote:
Bad Dice is a great AoS podcast as well.

Subscribed but haven't had a chance to check it out yet. Thanks for the recommendation.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/11/08 02:20:16


Post by: Red_Zeke


 Eldarain wrote:

Not at all. Thanks. Subscribed and listened to the first episode. Really well done. I like the format with the different phases. There were a couple audio issues but hopefully that was just an initial episode hiccup. Really looking forward to getting caught up.


Thanks for the kind words. I'd like to think we've improved since the first episode- some better equipment and technique, though we do continue to learn. We're always open to feedback, so happy to hear anything you'd think need improvement.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/04 06:05:21


Post by: privateer4hire


 Eldarain wrote:
Been listening to the Heelanhammer and Garagehammer podcasts recently. Good stuff.

Any recommendation for sites, blogs and battle reports you've particularly enjoyed?


I just bought AoS from a buddy for a good deal. What made it even sweeter was he had built all the models, one of my least favorite parts of mini wargaming.
I'm super impressed with the models. I also like the scenario approach (I'll be providing both forces for any games we play at the FLGS).
Scenarios with pre-set forces reminds me of previous GW games like LOTR SBG and even Epic 40k's historical refights with orders of battle provided.
Helps remove some of the better-list-builder usually wins aspect IMO.

I've been watching videos by some guys called Realms of Conflict. They do nice play throughs with the starter box with fully painted stuff and nice terrain.
They cover the rules as they are playing so if you need additional walk through on that, you're set.

Really nicely done.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/04 06:13:28


Post by: Eldarain


privateer4hire wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
Been listening to the Heelanhammer and Garagehammer podcasts recently. Good stuff.

Any recommendation for sites, blogs and battle reports you've particularly enjoyed?


I just bought AoS from a buddy for a good deal. What made it even sweeter was he had built all the models, one of my least favorite parts of mini wargaming.
I'm super impressed with the models. I also like the scenario approach (I'll be providing both forces for any games we play at the FLGS).
Scenarios with pre-set forces reminds me of previous GW games like LOTR SBG and even Epic 40k's historical refights with orders of battle provided.
Helps remove some of the better-list-builder usually wins aspect IMO.

I've been watching videos by some guys called Realms of Conflict. They do nice play throughs with the starter box with fully painted stuff and nice terrain.
They cover the rules as they are playing so if you need additional walk through on that, you're set.

Really nicely done.

I'll be sure to check them out. Thanks. The new minis are really great, I've been enjoying coming up with custom scenarios myself of late. It's been a lot of fun getting my wife and a few non-wargamer friends into it.

@Red_Zeke I had been finding it a bit hard to hear the colonial members of the cast but the last episode was perfect.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/04 14:41:56


Post by: jasper76


I just got the AoS starter box. I also have a Celestant-Prime model. I'm kind lost without points and codices, and I want to have a balanced pair of armies I can pull out if anyone wants to play. Does anyone have any advice on a unit I could add to the Khorne force that would be a good balance against the Celestant-Prime (and staying fluffy)?


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/04 14:51:30


Post by: coldgaming


 jasper76 wrote:
I just got the AoS starter box. I also have a Celestant-Prime model. I'm kind lost without points and codices, and I want to have a balanced pair of armies I can pull out if anyone wants to play. Does anyone have any advice on a unit I could add to the Khorne force that would be a good balance against the Celestant-Prime (and staying fluffy)?


I would say a Bloodthirster, if going for another centrepiece. You can loosely balance things along the lines of troop unit-troop unit, elite-elite, big monster-big monster, here-hero etc while thinking about the finer comparisons stats-wise.

Perhaps a unit of Mighty Skullcrushers would be equal. Different roles on the battlefield for sure. The Prime is like a nuke button late in the game, while the Bloodthirster or Skullcrushers would be getting their damage in fairly early.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/04 14:59:49


Post by: jasper76


Cool. Bloodthirster might be a good purchase for me, because I also play Word Bearers, and I could get some multi-use out of it. I have a couple Tzeenthc daemons I suppose I could use (LoC and DP), but that seems aesthetically jarring to use for a Khorne army. Also not sure how I'd get the rules for these dudes, I got them well before warscrolls were a thing.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/04 15:05:42


Post by: coldgaming


 jasper76 wrote:
Cool. Bloodthirster might be a good purchase for me, because I also play Word Bearers, and I could get some multi-use out of it. I have a couple Tzeenthc daemons I suppose I could use (LoC and DP), but that seems aesthetically jarring to use for a Khorne army. Also not sure how I'd get the rules for these dudes, I got them well before warscrolls were a thing.


All warscrolls for every unit are on the GW site. You can find the model on the store and to the right is a spot to click for the PDF.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/04 15:13:06


Post by: jasper76


Awesome...thanks!

Look at GW, giving rules away for free Be nice if they did this for 40k!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/04 17:33:33


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


coldgaming wrote:
 jasper76 wrote:
I just got the AoS starter box. I also have a Celestant-Prime model. I'm kind lost without points and codices, and I want to have a balanced pair of armies I can pull out if anyone wants to play. Does anyone have any advice on a unit I could add to the Khorne force that would be a good balance against the Celestant-Prime (and staying fluffy)?


I would say a Bloodthirster, if going for another centrepiece. You can loosely balance things along the lines of troop unit-troop unit, elite-elite, big monster-big monster, here-hero etc while thinking about the finer comparisons stats-wise.

Perhaps a unit of Mighty Skullcrushers would be equal. Different roles on the battlefield for sure. The Prime is like a nuke button late in the game, while the Bloodthirster or Skullcrushers would be getting their damage in fairly early.



There's also Skarbrand as an option for the Prime.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/05 00:06:29


Post by: shinros


So it seems slaanesh has got an e short in age of sigmar. Going to give it a read I will update on my thoughts on it.

So can we put the argument to rest that GW shot slaanesh? With this advent release? Plus the slaanesh bundle? I told everyone that it was going to be a story line.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/05 00:16:55


Post by: coldgaming


 shinros wrote:
So it seems slaanesh has got an e short in age of sigmar. Going to give it a read I will update on my thoughts on it.

So can we put the argument to rest that GW shot slaanesh? With this advent release?


I don't think that was ever a legitimate complaint. It was pretty clearly laid out right from the start that there was an elf/Slaanesh storyline down the road.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/05 00:18:35


Post by: shinros


coldgaming wrote:
 shinros wrote:
So it seems slaanesh has got an e short in age of sigmar. Going to give it a read I will update on my thoughts on it.

So can we put the argument to rest that GW shot slaanesh? With this advent release?


I don't think that was ever a legitimate complaint. It was pretty clearly laid out right from the start that there was an elf/Slaanesh storyline down the road.


Trust me there are still people who think that slaanesh is essentially dead/squatted in the setting I have talked to such people in real life as well. Used such arguments that you mentioned here and they still closed their ears.

edit: Soooo currently reading the e-short and just to let everyone know slaanesh is still quite eeeer "adult" so to speak. Whats great is that the Lord has three daemonette concubines he calls the daemonettes the "Travesitie Maidens" and his warband IS currently searching for slaanesh through sensations and physically looking for him/her. Will update later oh and its quite interesting that the lord is actually blind and perceives things through his horns mutations on his head.

edit 2: Man I just finished reading it and I don't know how to feel it sucks for the lord and in the end even though they were terrible people praying begging for slaanesh help and getting no answer while stormcasts were smashing them asunder. While the mortals are praying to a god that will literally throw down his warriors to avenge them. While with slaanesh all they have is silence. I do hope the Aelf Arc comes around soon slaanesh needs to be freed. I do think that freeing slaanesh will tip things back into chaos favor since currently in the fluff they are getting wrecked hard. Honestly the short story made me more attached to my slaanesh force ONE DAY slaanesh will be freed and sigmar, the stormcasts and mortals will get a reckoning. Its the opposite with the undead and chaos going by the audiobooks man I sure know how to pick my favorite armies.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/05 00:23:49


Post by: DrNo172000


Me and some buddies are going to start up a campaign sometime early next year. I'm just hoping they release the Duardin book before we start, love my stunties. AoS is the game that has me wanting to play casual narrative style games again.

It's like I've rediscovered GW for the first time as a kid again and I'm dreaming up map based campaigns lol.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/05 00:47:36


Post by: coldgaming


 DrNo172000 wrote:
Me and some buddies are going to start up a campaign sometime early next year. I'm just hoping they release the Duardin book before we start, love my stunties. AoS is the game that has me wanting to play casual narrative style games again.

It's like I've rediscovered GW for the first time as a kid again and I'm dreaming up map based campaigns lol.


I feel similarly. It's taken me back to when I got into GW. This time I'm actually getting a lot of painting done. I've been drawing out maps and coming up with campaign systems too. For me it honestly still feels exactly like Warhammer ever did, but without a few hundred pounds of dead weight, took a shower and got a nice outfit.

Interesting note about Slaanesh there. Appreciate people summarizing some of these fluff books because I'm not quite open to diverting model money for them yet.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/05 01:01:39


Post by: shinros


coldgaming wrote:
 DrNo172000 wrote:
Me and some buddies are going to start up a campaign sometime early next year. I'm just hoping they release the Duardin book before we start, love my stunties. AoS is the game that has me wanting to play casual narrative style games again.

It's like I've rediscovered GW for the first time as a kid again and I'm dreaming up map based campaigns lol.


I feel similarly. It's taken me back to when I got into GW. This time I'm actually getting a lot of painting done. I've been drawing out maps and coming up with campaign systems too. For me it honestly still feels exactly like Warhammer ever did, but without a few hundred pounds of dead weight, took a shower and got a nice outfit.

Interesting note about Slaanesh there. Appreciate people summarizing some of these fluff books because I'm not quite open to diverting model money for them yet.


No problem I am more of a fluff man and collector with an interest in undead and chaos so the undead audiobook series, the call of Archeon e-short series and the advents are like a godsend to me. As a slaanesh fan this e-short really puts it in perspective the situation slaanesh warbands are currently in and that they are still actively looking and searching for slaanesh I assume same goes with the daemons as well. Imagine all the battles they face where their opponents call on their gods to aid them in so many ways and forms. All the slaanesh warbands have is themselves to keep going and the blessings they got from slaanesh in the past. I thought I would never feel sad for a slaanesh warband of all things.

One thing is clear to me the slaanesh followers do dearly love their god/goddess and are searching high and low for him/her. So we just have to wait until we get to the Aelf stuff and the realm of shadows to see things progress since I recall that the big fluff book at release said that the followers of slaanesh are congregating there.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/05 01:05:06


Post by: DrNo172000


 shinros wrote:
coldgaming wrote:
 DrNo172000 wrote:
Me and some buddies are going to start up a campaign sometime early next year. I'm just hoping they release the Duardin book before we start, love my stunties. AoS is the game that has me wanting to play casual narrative style games again.

It's like I've rediscovered GW for the first time as a kid again and I'm dreaming up map based campaigns lol.


I feel similarly. It's taken me back to when I got into GW. This time I'm actually getting a lot of painting done. I've been drawing out maps and coming up with campaign systems too. For me it honestly still feels exactly like Warhammer ever did, but without a few hundred pounds of dead weight, took a shower and got a nice outfit.

Interesting note about Slaanesh there. Appreciate people summarizing some of these fluff books because I'm not quite open to diverting model money for them yet.


No problem I am more of a fluff man and collector with an interest in undead and chaos so the undead audiobook series, the call of Archeon e-short series and the advents are like a godsend to me


I've really been enjoying the Stormcast novels. It's like reading a Saturday morning cartoon.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/05 01:07:54


Post by: shinros


 DrNo172000 wrote:
 shinros wrote:
coldgaming wrote:
 DrNo172000 wrote:
Me and some buddies are going to start up a campaign sometime early next year. I'm just hoping they release the Duardin book before we start, love my stunties. AoS is the game that has me wanting to play casual narrative style games again.

It's like I've rediscovered GW for the first time as a kid again and I'm dreaming up map based campaigns lol.


I feel similarly. It's taken me back to when I got into GW. This time I'm actually getting a lot of painting done. I've been drawing out maps and coming up with campaign systems too. For me it honestly still feels exactly like Warhammer ever did, but without a few hundred pounds of dead weight, took a shower and got a nice outfit.

Interesting note about Slaanesh there. Appreciate people summarizing some of these fluff books because I'm not quite open to diverting model money for them yet.


No problem I am more of a fluff man and collector with an interest in undead and chaos so the undead audiobook series, the call of Archeon e-short series and the advents are like a godsend to me


I've really been enjoying the Stormcast novels. It's like reading a Saturday morning cartoon.


I do feel that the audio series does them really well and its interesting listening to Tarsus and Mannfreds discussions the audio series and several of the novel's in the realm gate wars series turned me into a Hallowed Knights fan. Only the faithful.......


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/05 23:48:50


Post by: Atolyr


Do any of you guys think it's a possibility that we'll see hard-copy printed versions of the digital-only short stories? Like, is there any precedent for Black Library putting out physical collections of their digital-only material?

I love the AoS setting and fluff, and I wanna check out Call of Archaon and the other e-shorts they've put out. But I don't care for the e-book format.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/05 23:50:24


Post by: Eldarain


 Atolyr wrote:
Do any of you guys think it's a possibility that we'll see hard-copy printed versions of the digital-only short stories? Like, is there any precedent for Black Library putting out physical collections of their digital-only material?

I love the AoS setting and fluff, and I wanna check out Call of Archaon and the other e-shorts they've put out. But I don't care for the e-book format.

They've definitely done it for some 40k/Heresy stuff. Sometimes an eshort or two will be added to an Omnibus as well. Not sure if they will do so for AoS or not.


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/07 11:24:26


Post by: RoperPG


 DrNo172000 wrote:
Me and some buddies are going to start up a campaign sometime early next year. I'm just hoping they release the Duardin book before we start, love my stunties. AoS is the game that has me wanting to play casual narrative style games again.

It's like I've rediscovered GW for the first time as a kid again and I'm dreaming up map based campaigns lol.

Duardin no - but if Fyre slayers float your boat, don't start before February...


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/07 12:17:10


Post by: angelofvengeance


Played a game yesterday and massacred me some Khornate scum. Lost 2 heroes though (Lord Relictor and Knight Vexillor) and my Retributors (2 handed hammers) and a few Liberators. Retributors are AWESOME. 3 guys (WHAoS box set)murdered a huge swarm of 20 Bloodreavers unaided (might have to invest in another box of those lads). Though, the Bloodwarriors were somewhat more difficult to put down. Those Gorefists are a pain in the ass (successful saves get you a chance to stab someone and inflict a mortal wound)


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/07 12:37:55


Post by: MongooseMatt


 angelofvengeance wrote:
Retributors are AWESOME.


They really are

Wait until you try five together!


General AoS discussion for AoS optimists @ 2015/12/07 12:51:12


Post by: angelofvengeance


MongooseMatt wrote:
 angelofvengeance wrote:
Retributors are AWESOME.


They really are

Wait until you try five together!


When used in conjunction with the PotS (Pennant of the Stormbringer) they are superb. That deep strike ability is so helpful- gets them stuck in!