Matt.Kingsley wrote:how will lootas kill deathstrikes?

That's what I was thinking...Even if I run out of ammo I can tank shock you off the table

With a gakload of dakka and favour of the dice gods.

Deadshot wrote:With a gakload of dakka and favour of the dice gods.

Could they hurt it though? Can they hurt AV12?

no, they're str 5

Matt.Kingsley wrote:no, they're str 5

That's what I thought...they won't do anything.

im2randomghgh wrote:

Matt.Kingsley wrote:no, they're str 5

That's what I thought...they won't do anything.

Lootas are S7 w/ D3 shots.

Sekminara wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Matt.Kingsley wrote:no, they're str 5

That's what I thought...they won't do anything.

Lootas are S7 w/ D3 shots.

Really? Either way, Doesn't save them from a deathstrike missile.

With two squads of Lootas up against two Deathstrikes, if the Lootas go first they'll win. They'll probably win anyway considering what it takes for the Deathstrike to actually fire.

Sekminara wrote:With two squads of Lootas up against two Deathstrikes, if the Lootas go first they'll win. They'll probably win anyway considering what it takes for the Deathstrike to actually fire.

Well the Lootas get an average of 2 shots per model/turn, which at BS2 is 0.666 hits. It takes six attempts to get a piercing hit, meaning your chances are now at 0.111, and it takes 3 tries to get a destroyed result, assuming it isn't ap - because I don't know the stats for a deff gun, not factoring for smoke launchers and cover.

Plus they both have heavy bolters so subtract 2 looters a turn, and also I can just tank shock your off the board right away since you have no PK to threaten me with in assault.

Deathstrike= Broadside 70

DreadlordME! wrote:Deathstrike= Broadside 70

A single broadside wouldn't. kill two deathstrike launchers. 75% to hit, 66% chance to pen, 50% chance to destroy, that averages four turn to kill one. By then, both will have launched their payloads, and the broadside would be dead. Don't get me wrong, an amount of broadside equal to the two deathstrikes point wise would win, because that's four broadsides. That means that you could destroy one a turn with four, and with 2x2 broadsides a single missile wouldn't be able to eliminate all your broadsides.

So I'll treat your post as 2x2 Broadsides for 280

In response to that, 10 Incubi-220

im2randomghgh wrote:

Sekminara wrote:With two squads of Lootas up against two Deathstrikes, if the Lootas go first they'll win. They'll probably win anyway considering what it takes for the Deathstrike to actually fire.

Well the Lootas get an average of 2 shots per model/turn, which at BS2 is 0.666 hits. It takes six attempts to get a piercing hit, meaning your chances are now at 0.111, and it takes 3 tries to get a destroyed result, assuming it isn't ap - because I don't know the stats for a deff gun, not factoring for smoke launchers and cover.

Plus they both have heavy bolters so subtract 2 looters a turn, and also I can just tank shock your off the board right away since you have no PK to threaten me with in assault.

Here's the math with an average of 2 shots model (with 20 models)

p(hit)*p(pen)*p(destroy) * (# of Models) * (# of shots/model) = (1/3)*(1/6)*(1/3)*2*20= 0.74 or w/ cover *(1/2) = 0.37

That's just the probability of getting destroyed. This doesn't include being immobilized, WD, shaken, or stunned.

Heavy bolters would be able to kill (1/2)*(2/3)*3= 1 Loota per turn / vehicle

If you moved to tanked shock you wouldn't be shooting (the missile), and to tank shock you could not be stunned or immobilized. You would also need to actually move up to the lootas, and assuming you're more than 24 inches away, that would take you 2 turns at the very least. At that point the probability of the lootas having immobilized, WD , shaken, or stunned you increases by a large factor.

Really Lootas were made to take down / suppress AV11 & AV12.

FIne 4 Broadsides 280

Which he countered with Incubi. In response, Stormraven, 205 points. Have fun damaging me at strength four. Oh, wait...

Seeing as how that is a GK Psychic SR, the best thing would be another one. Mindstrikes= 4 glancing hits standard because of perils.

Soroitas command squad
3x multi-melta

145

Still only have 1D6 against it. And no sane person would come within 24".

Deadshot wrote:Seeing as how that is a GK Psychic SR, the best thing would be another one. Mindstrikes= 4 glancing hits standard because of perils.

Vindicare-145

3 squads of 10 Warrior Acolytes with Laspistols and Bolters 150

Deadshot wrote:Still only have 1D6 against it. And no sane person would come within 24".

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Deadshot wrote:3 squads of 10 Warrior Acolytes with Laspistols and Bolters 150

The living saint-115


You lol her she comes back forever.

Thawn-75, stand back up fight

That's a never ending battle. But I say jotww or a tess lab. You don't come back lol.

@ Thawn

St. Celestine.

BRING IT ON!

CthuluIsSpy wrote:@ Thawn

St. Celestine.

BRING IT ON!

Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun, cybork body, burna - 125.

Would he win? Would he lose? Depends on what he rolls, but it would be a HILARIOUS fight.

I think the thread just got broken there.

If the SAG dies before he rolls a 12, then no one wins basically.

But I would SO try this!

Sekminara wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Sekminara wrote:With two squads of Lootas up against two Deathstrikes, if the Lootas go first they'll win. They'll probably win anyway considering what it takes for the Deathstrike to actually fire.

Well the Lootas get an average of 2 shots per model/turn, which at BS2 is 0.666 hits. It takes six attempts to get a piercing hit, meaning your chances are now at 0.111, and it takes 3 tries to get a destroyed result, assuming it isn't ap - because I don't know the stats for a deff gun, not factoring for smoke launchers and cover.

Plus they both have heavy bolters so subtract 2 looters a turn, and also I can just tank shock your off the board right away since you have no PK to threaten me with in assault.

Here's the math with an average of 2 shots model (with 20 models)

p(hit)*p(pen)*p(destroy) * (# of Models) * (# of shots/model) = (1/3)*(1/6)*(1/3)*2*20= 0.74 or w/ cover *(1/2) = 0.37

That's just the probability of getting destroyed. This doesn't include being immobilized, WD, shaken, or stunned.

Heavy bolters would be able to kill (1/2)*(2/3)*3= 1 Loota per turn / vehicle

If you moved to tanked shock you wouldn't be shooting (the missile), and to tank shock you could not be stunned or immobilized. You would also need to actually move up to the lootas, and assuming you're more than 24 inches away, that would take you 2 turns at the very least. At that point the probability of the lootas having immobilized, WD , shaken, or stunned you increases by a large factor.

Really Lootas were made to take down / suppress AV11 & AV12.

You still have one third of .111 chance to destroy one, per turn/models, meaning more than. Meaning that about 4 turns are needed. In four turns, I will probably have fired both missiles, and you'd be dead.


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CthuluIsSpy wrote:I think the thread just got broken there.

@ Big Mek

5 CCW/BP scouts in a LSS.


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10 Warriors w/ dark lance-115

TheAngrySquig wrote:10 Warriors w/ dark lance-115

Tactical squad with ML/flamer-170

Ironclad Dread with Seismic Hammer/Meltagun and Hurricaine bolter and 2 HKs and Ironclad Assault Launchers. (Assault and Defensive grenades.)

170

10 Trueborn w/ 2 dark lances

Deadshot wrote:Ironclad Dread with Seismic Hammer/Meltagun and Hurricaine bolter and 2 HKs and Ironclad Assault Launchers. (Assault and Defensive grenades.)

170

10 scarabs 150

I have absolutely no idea if that would work, but it might.

Probably would.

Deadshot wrote:Ironclad Dread with Seismic Hammer/Meltagun and Hurricaine bolter and 2 HKs and Ironclad Assault Launchers. (Assault and Defensive grenades.)

170

Mortis pattern contemptor w/ two tl lascannons-185

Edit: Didn't notice scarabs.

Blood Angels Contemptor with blood talons and two heavy flamers.

The scarabs would each it for breakfast.


Aw well.

Carnifex with Crushing Claws-185

im2randomghgh wrote:

Deadshot wrote:Ironclad Dread with Seismic Hammer/Meltagun and Hurricaine bolter and 2 HKs and Ironclad Assault Launchers. (Assault and Defensive grenades.)

170

Mortis pattern contemptor w/ two tl lascannons-185

Edit: Didn't notice scarabs.

Blood Angels Contemptor with blood talons and two heavy flamers.

Accursed blenders! Completely OP I say! How dare they are able to counter my swarm of beasts that could potentially kill...any...vehicle... ohhhhh

Anyway, points?

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Deadshot wrote:Ironclad Dread with Seismic Hammer/Meltagun and Hurricaine bolter and 2 HKs and Ironclad Assault Launchers. (Assault and Defensive grenades.)

170

Mortis pattern contemptor w/ two tl lascannons-185

Edit: Didn't notice scarabs.

Blood Angels Contemptor with blood talons and two heavy flamers.

Accursed blenders! Completely OP I say! How dare they are able to counter my swarm of beasts that could potentially kill...any...vehicle... ohhhhh

Anyway, points?

195 I believe, 175 stock, blood talons free +10 for each HF.

Deadshot wrote:The scarabs would each it for breakfast.


Aw well.

Carnifex with Crushing Claws-185

what do you mean?

Blood talons gain an additional attack for every unsaved wound. They are S6 power weapons, meaning that for every dead base (inevitable due to instakill), the talons will gain an extra 3 attacks.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Deadshot wrote:The scarabs would each it for breakfast.


Aw well.

Carnifex with Crushing Claws-185

what do you mean?

Blood talons gain an additional attack for every unsaved wound. They are S6 power weapons, meaning that for every dead base (inevitable due to instakill), the talons will gain an extra 3 attacks.

Exactly. Except S7 with contemptor just to rub it in

Plus, heavy flamers.

Didn't see the edit before I posted.

Deadshot wrote:Didn't see the edit before I posted.

OOOOOO

okay.

So does the contemptor still stand as the most recent post?

im2randomghgh wrote:

Deadshot wrote:Ironclad Dread with Seismic Hammer/Meltagun and Hurricaine bolter and 2 HKs and Ironclad Assault Launchers. (Assault and Defensive grenades.)

170

Mortis pattern contemptor w/ two tl lascannons-185

Edit: Didn't notice scarabs.

Blood Angels Contemptor with blood talons and two heavy flamers.

6 Trueborn w/ 4 blasters and 2 dark lances-182

10 Howling Banshees - 160

DeadlySquirrel wrote:10 Howling Banshees - 160

Tac squad flamer ML-170

10 Warriors w/ splinter cannon-100
Raider w/ NS and FF-80

Broadside 70
12 Fire Warriors- 96
Pulse Rifles

Razorwing w/ splinter cannon and ff-165

TheAngrySquig wrote:Razorwing w/ splinter cannon and ff-165

Skyray with BCs, dp-140

2 Broadsides 140

DreadlordME! wrote:2 Broadsides 140

25 ork boys 150

Furioso Dread with bts

Ravager w/ ff/ns-125

TheAngrySquig wrote:Ravager w/ ff/ns-125

Skyray w/ BC, DP-140

2 Broadsides 140

28 Termagants

LRBT

Points? 155 I believe. Sooooo... 2 Broadsides. 140. Were stuck in a loop!
Tank...Broadsides...Horde...Tank...Broadsides...Horde...Tank!!

WTF!

So we are on XV88s?


Libby with TDA and SS with Smite and Null Zone 135

9 spezz mehreens plus a spechul spezz mehreene!

DarthSpader wrote:9 spezz mehreens plus a spechul spezz mehreene!

ummm ok.

5 destroyers-200

DreadlordME! wrote:Points? 155 I believe. Sooooo... 2 Broadsides. 140. Were stuck in a loop!
Tank...Broadsides...Horde...Tank...Broadsides...Horde...Tank!!

WTF!

Then stop posting fething dreadnoughts. Seriously, I was just about the wost offender where this was concerned and even I stopped 20 pages back.


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Defiler37 wrote:

DarthSpader wrote:9 spezz mehreens plus a spechul spezz mehreene!

ummm ok.

5 destroyers-200

Shas'el-TA+PR+CIB+HWMT

2x bodyguards-TA+FB+PR+HWMT

204 points worth of orks- 34

Battlewagon w/ Deffrolla, 4x Big Shootas, 'eavy Armour, Grot Riggers and Kannon- ~180

I either sit still and Dakka you down, or, if you're silly enough to get in range (and please DoG!) I Run you Down!

2 Broadside-140

10 Fire Dragons-160pts

30 Ork Boyz 180

6 Purifiers 140 ish

Fire prism w/ holofields-150 pts

Rocky1 wrote:Fire prism w/ holofields-150 pts

Heavy weapon squads: 75
AC x 3
Heavy weapon squads: 75
AC x 3

Deathleaper-135
I appear 10" away, and because you need to roll for Night Fighting, halfing the result, you need to be within 9". So I am safe, then move and assault, each attack hitting on 3+ rerolling 1s, wounding on 2+ with 5+ rending and ID, in addtion to my Flesh Hooks which are Str 6 and rending on 5+. Then I disappear and reappear next to the others.

Land Raider 250

DreadlordME! wrote:30 Ork Boyz 180

Can you please post something that isn't ork boyz or XV88s? Creativity!


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Deadshot wrote:Deathleaper-135
I appear 10" away, and because you need to roll for Night Fighting, halfing the result, you need to be within 9". So I am safe, then move and assault, each attack hitting on 3+ rerolling 1s, wounding on 2+ with 5+ rending and ID, in addtion to my Flesh Hooks which are Str 6 and rending on 5+. Then I disappear and reappear next to the others.

Taking this one because the one after it was twice the points.

Shas'O R'alai-180

Hey-I've posted other things! And if you want creativity, then you should know I'm a published Author of a 1000 page book!!

What's it called?

I think you'll like the name Deadshot. It is in the publisher so should be on the shelf at some point in the near future. Dragon Tale.

Woohoo! Good choice.

I knew you'd like it.

im2randomghgh wrote:

Shas'O R'alai-180

Isn't O R'alai apocalypse (and 225 points)? Or is he just forgeworld, I'm not quite sure

Marshal: Lightning Claw, Storm Shield, Adamantine Mantle, Artificer Armor, Frag grenades-176

If O'Ralai is apoc, to kill the land raider I would take-
Black Templars Assault Squad-252
-8 initiates
-all w/melta bombs
-Storm Shieldx4

Oh Yeah! 30 Ork Boyz. On ze Marshal.

My Marshal used to kill Tau, then he took an Ork mob to the knee

BTNeophyte wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Shas'O R'alai-180

Isn't O R'alai apocalypse (and 225 points)? Or is he just forgeworld, I'm not quite sure

Marshal: Lightning Claw, Storm Shield, Adamantine Mantle, Artificer Armor, Frag grenades-176

If O'Ralai is apoc, to kill the land raider I would take-
Black Templars Assault Squad-252
-8 initiates
-all w/melta bombs
-Storm Shieldx4

He isn't apoc, and I am fairly certain 225 was his points cost before the IA reboot.

And the marshal wouldn't be able to catch him. He just isn't fast enough. Plus, I could ID him with the hyper-density sabot shell.


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DreadlordME! wrote:Oh Yeah! 30 Ork Boyz. On ze Marshal.

30 ork boyz. Again.

FIGHT FIRE WITH REPETITIVE FIRE!

Shas'O R'alai-190

Now we have the mighty trio of 3 XV-88 180

pedro kantor

? How does that win? You're dead 1st Turn!

Autocannon predator with hbers. 135 points.

Pedro Kantor

Lysander 200

landspeeder multi-melta and heavy bolter 70

DreadlordME! wrote:? How does that win? You're dead 1st Turn!

Eternal Warrior.


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DreadlordME! wrote:Now we have the mighty trio of 3 XV-88 180

That wouldn't have a chance of killing R'alai. And I could instant kill two XV88's a turn with my assault 2 lascannon.

But really, I have a 3++ and two ablative wounds (uh, I mean marker drones) Also, three broadsides is 210, plus you HAVE to take a support system, so 225 at minimum if you take a multi-tracker, or 240 for good upgrades.


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spudkins wrote:landspeeder multi-melta and heavy bolter 70

Shas'el crisis suit commander with FB+MP+TA+HWMT-89

Pedro Kantor doesn't have EW though.

Deadshot wrote:Pedro Kantor doesn't have EW though.

:O

Either way, R'alai still would have beaten the broadsides.

Yeah. anyway... 30 Ork Boyz 180

6 Tyranid Warriors with Devourers and ST 180

5 x Incubi, Raider with FF - 180 Pts

Railhead 130

DreadlordME! wrote:Railhead 130

IG squad with AC: 60
IG squad with AC: 60

8 Death Cult Assassins 120 pts

DreadlordME! wrote:Railhead 130

150 is the cheapest you can get a railhead.


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DreadlordME! wrote:Yeah. anyway... 30 Ork Boyz 180

How the HELL would that beat r'alai? He gets two LBT a turn and they're rending!


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Bex wrote:8 Death Cult Assassins 120 pts

Farsight-170

abadonon the despoiler

spudkins wrote:abadonon the despoiler

Shas'O r'alai-190

how?

spudkins wrote:how?

You're not going to catch me, and I am firing my assault two lascannon equivalent at you every turn. Also, I have what amounts to a Stormshield, and I have drones as extra wounds.

Land Raider 250


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I get 1st Turn!

5 assault termies. chainfists. 200

4 IG squads: 200

DreadlordME! wrote:Land Raider 250


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I get 1st Turn!

Im still too tough for you to ID, and have a 3++, and two drones with 3+.

Against AV14, the emp shells would be best. The calculations for this would be: 0.83x0.33(to pen)x0.33(to destroy)x2 shots~20%chance to kill

And this is without destroyed/stunned results, and this is without glancing hits.

Anyone want to figure out how many shots at BS4 from a lascannon it would take to kill a 4W T5 3++ character with 2 drones?


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loner wrote:4 IG squads: 200

Shas'el with CIB+MP+TA+HWMT-92 points
2x Shield Drones-30
2x Bodyguards with PR+TA+BC+HWMT-156

im2randomghgh wrote:

DreadlordME! wrote:Land Raider 250


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I get 1st Turn!

Im still too tough for you to ID, and have a 3++, and two drones with 3+.

Against AV14, the emp shells would be best. The calculations for this would be: 0.83x0.33(to pen)x0.33(to destroy)x2 shots~20%chance to kill

And this is without destroyed/stunned results, and this is without glancing hits.

Anyone want to figure out how many shots at BS4 from a lascannon it would take to kill a 4W T5 3++ character with 2 drones?


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loner wrote:4 IG squads: 200

Shas'el with CIB+MP+TA+HWMT-92 points
2x Shield Drones-30
2x Bodyguards with PR+TA+BC+HWMT-156

So that is 278 points in total?

loner wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

DreadlordME! wrote:Land Raider 250


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I get 1st Turn!

Im still too tough for you to ID, and have a 3++, and two drones with 3+.

Against AV14, the emp shells would be best. The calculations for this would be: 0.83x0.33(to pen)x0.33(to destroy)x2 shots~20%chance to kill

And this is without destroyed/stunned results, and this is without glancing hits.

Anyone want to figure out how many shots at BS4 from a lascannon it would take to kill a 4W T5 3++ character with 2 drones?


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loner wrote:4 IG squads: 200

Shas'el with CIB+MP+TA+HWMT-92 points
2x Shield Drones-30
2x Bodyguards with PR+TA+BC+HWMT-156

So that is 278 points in total?

Sorry about forgetting to add :$ sorry.

im2randomghgh wrote:

loner wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

DreadlordME! wrote:Land Raider 250


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I get 1st Turn!

Im still too tough for you to ID, and have a 3++, and two drones with 3+.

Against AV14, the emp shells would be best. The calculations for this would be: 0.83x0.33(to pen)x0.33(to destroy)x2 shots~20%chance to kill

And this is without destroyed/stunned results, and this is without glancing hits.

Anyone want to figure out how many shots at BS4 from a lascannon it would take to kill a 4W T5 3++ character with 2 drones?


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loner wrote:4 IG squads: 200

Shas'el with CIB+MP+TA+HWMT-92 points
2x Shield Drones-30
2x Bodyguards with PR+TA+BC+HWMT-156

So that is 278 points in total?

Sorry about forgetting to add :$ sorry.

No problem.
I'll counter with 4 hydra's.
(300 points)

loner wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

loner wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

DreadlordME! wrote:Land Raider 250


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I get 1st Turn!

Im still too tough for you to ID, and have a 3++, and two drones with 3+.

Against AV14, the emp shells would be best. The calculations for this would be: 0.83x0.33(to pen)x0.33(to destroy)x2 shots~20%chance to kill

And this is without destroyed/stunned results, and this is without glancing hits.

Anyone want to figure out how many shots at BS4 from a lascannon it would take to kill a 4W T5 3++ character with 2 drones?


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loner wrote:4 IG squads: 200

Shas'el with CIB+MP+TA+HWMT-92 points
2x Shield Drones-30
2x Bodyguards with PR+TA+BC+HWMT-156

So that is 278 points in total?

Sorry about forgetting to add :$ sorry.

No problem.
I'll counter with 4 hydra's.
(300 points)

Shas'El with FB+TA+HWMT+MP-84
2x Shield Drones-30
2x bodyguards FB+MP+TA+HWMT-140

254

Templars Land Speeder Squadron-210
-3 Typhoons

BTNeophyte wrote:Templars Land Speeder Squadron-210
-3 Typhoons

Shadowsun-175

She's the lady with 2 Fusion blasters and the missile pod IIRC?

10 Man BT Assault Squad-240
- power weapon
-2 plasma pistols

Raptors x10 - 250
Mark of Nurgle

BTNeophyte wrote:She's the lady with 2 Fusion blasters and the missile pod IIRC?

10 Man BT Assault Squad-240
- power weapon
-2 plasma pistols

I was going to inform you that I win, and then I noticed the plasma pistols...


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smudgethekat wrote:Raptors x10 - 250
Mark of Nurgle

Mephiston-250

10 sterngaurd
Power fist
275

spudkins wrote:10 sterngaurd
Power fist
275

You're joking?

im2randomghgh wrote:

spudkins wrote:10 sterngaurd
Power fist
275

You're joking?

Either of the two

LRC-265

Defiler all CC Arms + Fleet 150
or
Depending on how much we can or cant add 2 of them for 300

You're joking?

30 Ork Boyz Nob with PK! 205

GK SR with TL Plas cannons and Heavy Bolter 205

5 (Black Templar) with 2 cyclone missle launchers and with the tank hunters usr - 265 pts
(yes you can do this with the bt codex

"30 Ork Boyz Nob with PK! 205"
slight correction, that unit would cost 215

Oops, Typo!

Land Raider 250

2 Vendettas-260

4 Broadsides 280

DreadlordME! wrote:4 Broadsides 280

5 Broadsides 350

6 Broadsides 420

Mawloc 170

GK strike squad with 5 Hammers and psycannon ~160

BT Assault Terminators- 3 Lightning Claws, 4 Hammernators, Furious Charge-301

2x30 Boyz nob w/pk-410 i believe.

3x Crisis Suits, Plasma Rifle, Airbust frag projector and targeting array - 225

Imotekh the Stormlord 225

Rocky1 wrote:2x30 Boyz nob w/pk-410 i believe.

smudgethekat wrote:3x Crisis Suits, Plasma Rifle, Airbust frag projector and targeting array - 225

Somehow, I don't think so.

10x Genestealers, Scything talons, Toxin sac 190

BeRzErKeR wrote:

Rocky1 wrote:2x30 Boyz nob w/pk-410 i believe.

smudgethekat wrote:3x Crisis Suits, Plasma Rifle, Airbust frag projector and targeting array - 225

Somehow, I don't think so.

Why? They're more than capable of outrunning the Orks, and the frag projectors will make short work of them. With the 6" move and the 6" move in the assault phase, the Orks, with random run distance, won't be able to catch up.

5 flamers of tzeentch, ds -190

breath of change: flamer template, no armor save, 4+ to wound,

2 paladins, apothecary, Nemesis warding Stave, x2 master crafted - 215pts

2 B-Sides 140

DreadlordME! wrote:6 Broadsides 420

7 Broadsides 490

Sasa0mg wrote:2 paladins, apothecary, Nemesis warding Stave, x2 master crafted - 215pts

Can only get 1 stave.


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GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

DreadlordME! wrote:6 Broadsides 420

7 Broadsides 490

5 squads of 20 Termagaunts 500

Deadshot wrote:

Sasa0mg wrote:2 paladins, apothecary, Nemesis warding Stave, x2 master crafted - 215pts

Can only get 1 stave.


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GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

DreadlordME! wrote:6 Broadsides 420

7 Broadsides 490

5 squads of 20 Termagaunts 500

He's saying 1 has a Stave the other is an apoth and therefore has no weapon (just a narth) so yeah only 1 has a stave.

1 armored sentinel with heavy flamer. 60pts

GamzaTheChaos wrote:1 armored sentinel with heavy flamer. 60pts

8 Broadsides 560

Command squad with 1 master of the ordinance out of line of sight.

80 pts

GamzaTheChaos wrote:Command squad with 1 master of the ordinance out of line of sight.

80 pts

Smart Missile systems?

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

GamzaTheChaos wrote:Command squad with 1 master of the ordinance out of line of sight.

80 pts

Smart Missile systems?

well if you wanted to run them up the table i can see that.

ok

a platoon squad:

platoon command
2 units of guardsmen.
5 heavy weapon teams with heavy bolters

505

GamzaTheChaos wrote:

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

GamzaTheChaos wrote:Command squad with 1 master of the ordinance out of line of sight.

80 pts

Smart Missile systems?

well if you wanted to run them up the table i can see that.

ok

a platoon squad:

platoon command
2 units of guardsmen.
5 heavy weapon teams with heavy bolters

505

3x2 XV9 with BCs and Shield Generator 570

im2randomghgh wrote:

GamzaTheChaos wrote:

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

GamzaTheChaos wrote:Command squad with 1 master of the ordinance out of line of sight.

80 pts

Smart Missile systems?

well if you wanted to run them up the table i can see that.

ok

a platoon squad:

platoon command
2 units of guardsmen.
5 heavy weapon teams with heavy bolters

505

3x2 XV9 with BCs and Shield Generator 570

Revoke consent for opponent to use FW rules-0 points :p couldn't resist

Seriously, 10 BT Termies w/2 Assault Cannons-440

BTNeophyte wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

GamzaTheChaos wrote:

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

GamzaTheChaos wrote:Command squad with 1 master of the ordinance out of line of sight.

80 pts

Smart Missile systems?

well if you wanted to run them up the table i can see that.

ok

a platoon squad:

platoon command
2 units of guardsmen.
5 heavy weapon teams with heavy bolters

505

3x2 XV9 with BCs and Shield Generator 570

Revoke consent for opponent to use FW rules-0 points :p couldn't resist

Seriously, 10 BT Termies w/2 Assault Cannons-440

LOADOUT CHANGE!

Shas'O r'alai-190

With

3xXV9s with Shield Generators and Fusion Cascades-565

How does an assault 2 lascannon and 18 melta shots a turn sound? Oh, and everything had 4++ or 3++ on the Shas'O. All at BS5! Did I mention the marker drones that come with R'alai?

6 B-Sides 440

DreadlordME! wrote:6 B-Sides 440

420

7 Broadsides 490

150 Ork Boyz 900

3 10 man purifier squads with 4x psycannons
840pts.

4 Venerable Psyflemen 820

Deadshot wrote:4 Venerable Psyflemen 820

9 Broadsides 630

The Swarmlord + 3x Tyrant Guard w/ boneswords 505

Destroyer lord + Ms Scarabs + Res orb + 10x Triarch praetorians with staff approx 600 pts (I apologize for not having my codex on me)

10 Paladins with 2 Hammers, Banner, Warding Stave Apothecary, 6 Halberds, 4 Psycannons -750

3x Zoanthrope + Mysitic Spore 220

Ok. Won't beat me but I'll bite.

GK Stormraven with TL plasma cannon and Typhoon Missile Launcher 230

Deadshot wrote:Ok. Won't beat me but I'll bite.

GK Stormraven with TL plasma cannon and Typhoon Missile Launcher 230

Aren't Paladins in powerarmor? because Warp Blast is ap 3.

they're in TDA

Broadside 70

5 Immortal tesla
85pts

5 Bloodletters of khorn -80

assault

GK Razorback with assault cannon, psybolts and truesilver armour.95

Broadside 70 -_-

DreadlordME! wrote:Broadside 70 -_-

Big mekk with shokk attack gun and eavy armour. 100 waagh

10 Warriors w/ splinter cannon

TheAngrySquig wrote:10 Warriors w/ splinter cannon

single IG sentinal with a heavy flamer

Exergy wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:10 Warriors w/ splinter cannon

single IG sentinal with a heavy flamer

Scout or Armoured?

RaptorsTallon wrote:

Exergy wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:10 Warriors w/ splinter cannon

single IG sentinal with a heavy flamer

Scout or Armoured?

Open Topped or Not Open Topped?

5 deathwing with thunder hammers and storm shoelds with belial and interrogator chaplain in a landraider crusader 750

Draigo and a 7 man draigo star <750

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

RaptorsTallon wrote:

Exergy wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:10 Warriors w/ splinter cannon

single IG sentinal with a heavy flamer

Scout or Armoured?

Open Topped or Not Open Topped?

Rough Rider squadron: 75
two melta guns

30 gretchin with 3 runtherds- 120 pts

Purifier Squad. 2 incinerators 120.

Deadshot wrote:Purifier Squad. 2 incinerators 120.

IG Basilisk with hull mounted heavy flamer
125


Earlier I was considering a scount sentinal with heavy flamer 40pts

@Bassy.


BA VV squad all Meltabombs 150.

Exergy wrote:

Deadshot wrote:Purifier Squad. 2 incinerators 120.

IG Basilisk with hull mounted heavy flamer
125

5x Kommandos, Boss Snikrot - 160

Dreadknight with Heavy Incinerator 160

Deadshot wrote:Dreadknight with Heavy Incinerator 160

Vendetta Gunship 130

Deadshot wrote:Purifier Squad. 2 incinerators 120.

Stormraven Gunship (GK Codex) 205

Hydra x 2: 150 points.
Techpriest: 45

195 points in total.

loner wrote:Hydra x 2: 150 points.
Techpriest: 45

195 points in total.

normal land raider with 2 lascannons

Grey Knight Strike Squad-100

Mikster wrote:Grey Knight Strike Squad-100

how does a GK strike squad take out AV14?

6 Fire dragons in a serpent w/stones and cannons-206pts

BA Stormraven with Assault Cannon and Multimelta 200

Deadshot wrote:BA Stormraven with Assault Cannon and Multimelta 200

10 De scourges with 4 haywire blasters. 260

10 SG Vets 250

Exergy wrote:

Deadshot wrote:BA Stormraven with Assault Cannon and Multimelta 200

10 De scourges with 4 haywire blasters. 260

5 x regular infantry squad of IG: 250 points.

Combined or not?


If combined I'll take a GK LRR 245

If not then BA LRC 250

Basilisk 125

Deadshot wrote:Combined or not?


If combined I'll take a GK LRR 245

If not then BA LRC 250

Against either
2 de ravagers with 3 dark lances flickerfeild and night shields. 250

3 Broadsides 210

St. Celestine 115.
(other not current ideas: DE Incubi w Drazhar, a klaivex w demi klaves, bloodstone in a raider w ns, ff, desintegrator, shock prow.
overkill for 563
swooping hawks w skyleap, autarch w SH wings and then yoyo. 327)

St Celestine eh? CROWE! 150

3 Land Speeders 150

3 Hive Guard 150

Seperate or what?

together

Then Nemsis Dreadknight with Daemon Hammer 145

Six DE scourges with two splinter cannons, 142 points. Yay, poison

Ironclad Dreadnought - 135 points. I laugh at your poison!

bubbinski wrote:Ironclad Dreadnought - 135 points. I laugh at your poison!

BOOM HUR HUR

Zoanthrope /w Mysitic spore 100

broodstar wrote:Zoanthrope /w Mysitic spore 100

Grey Knight Dreadnought W/2 TL Autocannons and Psybolt 135 Points

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

broodstar wrote:Zoanthrope /w Mysitic spore 100

Grey Knight Dreadnought W/2 TL Autocannons and Psybolt 135 Points

2 broods of 1 Ive Guard 100

@Psyfleman

Culexus Assassin 135


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Change that to an Eversor please. Same cost.

9 wyches with haywire grenades


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Leman Russ Executioner 190 pts

Devestator Marine with Las cannon

Trondheim wrote:Devestator Marine with Las cannon

Must be whole units.

@Leman Russ


BA Stormraven 200

Hydra flak tank

Oh sorry forgot that,

TheAngrySquig wrote:Hydra flak tank

Points?

Devil Dog 125
Smoke Launchers

Vendetta-130

3 Hive Guards - 150

Skulltaker -140

assault, insta-death on a 4+, and 5 attacks on the charge, 5 initive, power weapon, +2 save vs phycic powers

koridon wrote:Skulltaker -140

assault, insta-death on a 4+, and 5 attacks on the charge, 5 initive, power weapon, +2 save vs phycic powers

Ku'gath The Plaguefather 300

HQ choice for Codex: Chaos Daemons Army

Written By Alessio Calvatore and Gav Thorpe

Ku'Gath was once a Nurgling sitting upon the shoulder of Nurgle. Whilst Nurgle was mixing his most virulent toxin ever, Ku'Gath tumbled from his nesting place into the cauldron, where he took a great draught of the filthy contents and swelled with its power. Invigorated, Ku'Gath drank and drank until the cauldron was nearly empty and he had grown into a Great Unclean One. Nurgle laughed at the antics of his Nurgling, who had become the embodiment of the perfect disease that had been bubbling within the cauldron. Ku'Gath, however, realised that he had robbed his father of the greatest disease ever concocted; and has since been wandering the universe, searching for the perfect ingredients to recreate the toxin for Nurgle. He also captures those whom his diseases corrupt and take them back to his lair, where he can observe their degeneration more closely.

During the Gheistos Cataclysm in M41, Ku'Gath is known to have led the Daemonic forces who besieged the Planetary Governor's Fortress.1



Shoot with Large Blast and Flamer, Assault, Poisoned 2+, Re-rolls to wound, 6 Attacks, Monsterous Creature, 4+ Inv, 4+ FnP, 6 Wounds, I2, Slow and Purposeful, Cloud of flies, Noxious Touch, Nurgling Infestation, Daemon Special Rule, Fearless, Eternal Warrior, Necrotic Missile, Breath of Chaos.

Kaldor draigo-275

9 Grotesques and Haemonculus-365

swooping hawks w skyleap, autarch w SH wings and then yoyo. 327

enfernux wrote:swooping hawks w skyleap, autarch w SH wings and then yoyo. 327

2 Leman Russes 300

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

broodstar wrote:Zoanthrope /w Mysitic spore 100

Grey Knight Dreadnought W/2 TL Autocannons and Psybolt 135 Points

Termicide
3 combi meltas and a chain fist 125


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GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

enfernux wrote:swooping hawks w skyleap, autarch w SH wings and then yoyo. 327

2 Leman Russes 300

2 servings of termicide
3 combi meltas and 1 chain fist 250

Exergy wrote:

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

broodstar wrote:Zoanthrope /w Mysitic spore 100

Grey Knight Dreadnought W/2 TL Autocannons and Psybolt 135 Points

Termicide
3 combi meltas and a chain fist 125


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GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

enfernux wrote:swooping hawks w skyleap, autarch w SH wings and then yoyo. 327

2 Leman Russes 300

2 servings of termicide
3 combi meltas and 1 chain fist 250

1) 1 Vindicator 125
Seige Shield

2) 2 Vindicators 250
Seige Shield

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

1) 1 Vindicator 125
Seige Shield

2) 2 Vindicators 250
Seige Shield

Void Raven Bomber with night shield, flickerfield, and 4 shatterfield missiles. 205


although im not sure a seige shield is going to save you from a chain fist.

Vendatta: 130
Valkyrie: 100

A total of 230 points.

loner wrote:Vendatta: 130
Valkyrie: 100

A total of 230 points.

I believe that this is against the rules, it says you may have up to 5 of the same unit, Valkyries and Vendettas are different units :/

loner wrote:Vendatta: 130
Valkyrie: 100

A total of 230 points.

2 broods of 2 hive Guard 200

@ Void Raven

BA stormraven with Assault Cannon and multimelta 200

Deadshot wrote:@ Void Raven

BA stormraven with Assault Cannon and multimelta 200

GK Stormraven with Assault Cannon TL Multi Melta 205

@ GoDz

Zoanthrope 60

broodstar wrote:@ GoDz

Zoanthrope 60

Really Though? Might Get I'ded by the Multi Melta!

All it takes is 1 lance.

I am better at AT. Your missiles don't hurt me whereas mine hurt you a lot. True you have fortitude...

GK Vendread with Assault Cannon, TL Autocannon and psybolts and extra armour

205

broodstar wrote:All it takes is 1 lance.

Move Flat out, 4+ cover save and can fire the TL MM, BAM!


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Deadshot wrote:I am better at AT. Your missiles don't hurt me whereas mine hurt you a lot. True you have fortitude...

GK Vendread with Assault Cannon, TL Autocannon and psybolts and extra armour

205

GK Stormraven with TL Multi Melta and TL Assault Cannon

Perils you to death!

Deadshot wrote:@ Void Raven

BA stormraven with Assault Cannon and multimelta 200

.....
Assault Cannons and Multi Meltas are only range 18 against a night shield. Void lances are 36" and faster than a storm raven. I dont think a storm raven something to beat a Void Raven.


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Deadshot wrote:@ Void Raven

BA stormraven with Assault Cannon and multimelta 200

.....
Assault Cannons and Multi Meltas are only range 18 against a night shield. Void lances are 36" and faster than a storm raven. I dont think a storm raven something to beat a Void Raven.

Yeah but Bloodstrikes are still 66". And I can Flat Out and still fire.my Multimelta or AC and get a 4+ cover.

Deadshot wrote:I am better at AT. Your missiles don't hurt me whereas mine hurt you a lot. True you have fortitude...

GK Vendread with Assault Cannon, TL Autocannon and psybolts and extra armour

205

Dreadnight with teleporters

Dreadknight with Greatsword 165

Six DE scourges with two splinter cannons, 142 points.

3 Broadsides 210

10 Wolf Scouts w/ CCW 2x Plasma Pistol 1x Melta Gun; Behind Enemy Lines to your face.

Emerett wrote:10 Wolf Scouts w/ CCW 2x Plasma Pistol 1x Melta Gun; Behind Enemy Lines to your face.

5 incubi,
including a klavex with bloodstone and onslaught

in a venom with dual splinter cannons and a night shield

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch, iron hide, wings, daemonic gaze, bolt of tzeentch -250

daemonic gaze: 18in, str5 ap3, assault 3
Bolt of change: 24in, str8 ap1, assault 1

yes you have night shield but seeing as in this forum it is next post goes first:

fly to assault range and shoot everything, chance to pop it decent even with 5++, then assault.

koridon wrote:Daemon Prince of Tzeentch, iron hide, wings, daemonic gaze, bolt of tzeentch -250

daemonic gaze: 18in, str5 ap3, assault 3
Bolt of change: 24in, str8 ap1, assault 1

yes you have night shield but seeing as in this forum it is next post goes first:

fly to assault range and shoot everything, chance to pop it decent even with 5++, then assault.

Shas'O r'alai with 1 XV9 bodyguard w/ fusion cascades, shield generator

315

Long Fang Squad x5 ML, Leader w/ Plasma Gun, in Laz Razorback. With Terminator Wolf Guard with Cyclone Missile Launcher and Storm Shield.

308

2 Squads of 3 flamers of tzeentch, ds -210

breath of chaos: flamer template, wounds on a 4+, no armor save

ds 2 squads on each side of the group lots of wounds

2 GK Strike Squads including 1 set of falchions in 1 squad. The rest are all swords-200

Deadshot wrote:2 GK Strike Squads including 1 set of falchions in 1 squad. The rest are all swords-200

Lysander-200

Hive Tyrant scything talons, TL devourers (18", Str 6, AP -, Assault 6) and acid blood 200

Deadshot wrote:Hive Tyrant scything talons, TL devourers (18", Str 6, AP -, Assault 6) and acid blood 200

Shas'O r'alai-190

GOOD LUCK CATCHING ME

Hive Tyrant with ST and BS LW and Wings 230

Deadshot wrote:Hive Tyrant with ST and BS LW and Wings 230

Shas'O r'alai with XV9 bodyguard-265

Tyrannofex with Dessicator Lavae, Fleshborer Hive, Clustr spines, regeneration 290

im2randomghgh wrote:

Deadshot wrote:Hive Tyrant with ST and BS LW and Wings 230

Shas'O r'alai with XV9 bodyguard-265

Razorwing fighter with nightshield and flickerfield
2 dark lances 1 splinter cannon and 4 necrotoxin missiles
195pts.


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Deadshot wrote:Tyrannofex with Dessicator Lavae, Fleshborer Hive, Clustr spines, regeneration 290

Razorwing fighter with nightshield and flickerfield
2 dark lances 1 splinter cannon and 4 necrotoxin missiles
195pts.

works here too

2x Broadside 140

Exergy wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Deadshot wrote:Hive Tyrant with ST and BS LW and Wings 230

Shas'O r'alai with XV9 bodyguard-265

Razorwing fighter with nightshield and flickerfield
2 dark lances 1 splinter cannon and 4 necrotoxin missiles
195pts.


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Deadshot wrote:Tyrannofex with Dessicator Lavae, Fleshborer Hive, Clustr spines, regeneration 290

Razorwing fighter with nightshield and flickerfield
2 dark lances 1 splinter cannon and 4 necrotoxin missiles
195pts.

works here too

In WHAT WORLD would that win? Against r'alai's T5 you can't ID, his 3++ laughs at your Nightshields, he has an assault 2 lascannon equivalent, his bodyguard has mad dakka that's still able to shred your fighter, his drones provide extra, non-essential wounds...and can take away any cover save.


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DreadlordME! wrote:2x Broadside 140

Fireknife shas'O with shield generator, 2x Shield drones-162

Vinducare Assassin 145

im2randomghgh wrote:

Exergy wrote:
Razorwing fighter with nightshield and flickerfield
2 dark lances 1 splinter cannon and 4 necrotoxin missiles
195pts.

In WHAT WORLD would that win? Against r'alai's T5 you can't ID, his 3++ laughs at your Nightshields, he has an assault 2 lascannon equivalent, his bodyguard has mad dakka that's still able to shred your fighter, his drones provide extra, non-essential wounds...and can take away any cover save.

Nightshields are not weapons, they reduce enemy range returning fire so a 3++ doesnt laugh at all, As the last posted item goes first the Razorwing is going to come on the board and lauch its missiles each one a large blast that wounds on 2+ getting your drones, your bodyguard and your character. Each one requires a pinning test. Sure Ld 9-10 is hard to fail but you might fail one of them. The dark lances and the splinter cannon will tack on more wounds. r'alai might survive but his droves and bodyguard are gonna be dead and he is gonna be wounded. A further pinning test from losing so many models. Provided he is unpinned and survives 2 lascannons have a chance but it's not surefire with the Razorwings invunerable save. You can miss, shake, weapon destroyed or immobilize it or have it saved by the ++ save.

Try reading and trying to understand other people's posts before you shout off.

DreadlordME! wrote:Vinducare Assassin 145

3 infantry squads-150.

DreadlordME! wrote:Vinducare Assassin 145

30 shoota boys 3 rokkit launchers
nob with klaw


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Joey wrote:

DreadlordME! wrote:Vinducare Assassin 145

3 infantry squads-150.

Ill still take my 30 shoota boys

Exergy wrote:

DreadlordME! wrote:Vinducare Assassin 145

30 shoota boys 3 rokkit launchers
nob with klaw


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Joey wrote:

DreadlordME! wrote:Vinducare Assassin 145

3 infantry squads-150.

Ill still take my 30 shoota boys

How much? And Land Raider-250

I think about 245.


@ LR I'll take the equivilent in Scarabs. Necroni guys help me out here please?

Exergy wrote:

DreadlordME! wrote:Vinducare Assassin 145

30 shoota boys 3 rokkit launchers
nob with klaw


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Joey wrote:

DreadlordME! wrote:Vinducare Assassin 145

3 infantry squads-150.

Ill still take my 30 shoota boys

How many points are shooter boys? 5 points each?

6.

Well 30 rapid firing guardsmen do 30 hits, 10 wounds, 5 after cover. How many would 25 ranged orks kill? Don't have ork codex.

Well at 24" that is 15 hirs for guardsmen and 5 wounds to the Orks. 4 failed armour 1 pass.

21 Boys move and run ~9". The distance is now 15".


Guardsmen now move 3" closer (12" away) and rspid fire, hitting with 30, wound 6 and killing 5.

15 Boys move 6" and fire 30 shots. 10 hit and 6.666 wounds. 4.444 fail and die. Orks now charge and strike simultaneously with 3 attacks Each.


30/45 attacks hit and 20 wound. 13 guardsmen die. 13 left alive. But the dead strike too so 26 attacks.

13 hit and 3.33 wound and that equals 2.777 dead orks. 12 orks.left

Guardsmen lose combat by ten. Assuming they miraculously pass their ld, round 2.



ROUND 2
Guard strike first with 13 attacks hit 6.5 times and wounding 2.16. This means 1.8 Orks die so there are 10 left.


20 attacks. 13.333 hits, 6.666 wounds, 4.444 dead guardsmen.

Casualties;
Orks; 15 so 10 left
IG; 21 so 9 left.


Again orks win by 2 so assume IG passed Ld.




ROUND 3
Guard hit 4.5 times and wound 1.5. 1.25 failed so 9 orks attack.

18 attacks. 9 hit and 4.5 wound. 3 guard die.



9 orks:6 Guardsmen

Guard pass test.



ROUND 4
6 attacks from guard. 4 hit. 2.66 wounds but only 2 die.

14 attacks. 7 hits, 3.5 wounds, ONLY 2 DIE. Drawn combat however is 4 IG to 7 Orks.



ROUND 5.

4 attacks, 2 hit, 0.666 woundz and 0.111 dead.


Orks hit 7/14 and wound 3.5 and 2 dead.


ROUND 6 IF GUARDS ARE ALIVE AFTER ALL THOSE MORALE TESTS.


1 attack. 0.5 hit. 0.0666 wounds. 0.0111 dead.

Orks kill guard.

They're charging each other?
I thought they were killing a Vindicre.
If you'd like an orks vs IG thread, feel free to taste the tread of a Demolisher.

Confusion!

Reset:

Lysander with 3x LC termies, 2x TH/SS termies.

im2randomghgh wrote:Confusion!

Reset:

Lysander with 3x LC termies, 2x TH/SS termies.

2xVendettas

Can someone post point values? i don't know every codex off the top of my head and cant compete without points.

2 vendettas are 260

on the joke side: one full platoon with everything upped more than 2k i beleave - not a big IG player
on the real side: Baneblade

enfernux wrote:on the joke side: one full platoon with everything upped more than 2k i beleave - not a big IG player
on the real side: Baneblade

Baneblade is iirc ~400 points? So that's out. I think Apocylse things in general aren't allowed here for rather obvious reasons.

Deadshot wrote:2 vendettas are 260

Tough one. 2 Stormtrooper squads with melta guns/bombs?
Wouldn't bet my hat on that though.

Baneblades are 500 and no Apocalypse units are allowed.anyway.

Joey wrote:

enfernux wrote:on the joke side: one full platoon with everything upped more than 2k i beleave - not a big IG player
on the real side: Baneblade

Baneblade is iirc ~400 points? So that's out. I think Apocylse things in general aren't allowed here for rather obvious reasons.

Deadshot wrote:2 vendettas are 260

Tough one. 2 Stormtrooper squads with melta guns/bombs?
Wouldn't bet my hat on that though.

ok this 2 of things is getting annoying.

for one squad I would say 1 Cronos with spirit vortex 100pts

for two squads I would say 2 Cronos with spirt vortexes 200pts

yumm pain tokens

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for those that dont know what a Cronos is, its a DE Pain Engine like a Talos. T7 W3 I4 3+ save, MC, comes with a AP3 flamer and the spirit vortex is a str 3 ap 3 large blast. Gets a pain token whenever something dies.

Exergy wrote:

Joey wrote:

enfernux wrote:on the joke side: one full platoon with everything upped more than 2k i beleave - not a big IG player
on the real side: Baneblade

Baneblade is iirc ~400 points? So that's out. I think Apocylse things in general aren't allowed here for rather obvious reasons.

Deadshot wrote:2 vendettas are 260

Tough one. 2 Stormtrooper squads with melta guns/bombs?
Wouldn't bet my hat on that though.

ok this 2 of things is getting annoying.

for one squad I would say 1 Cronos with spirit vortex 100pts

for two squads I would say 2 Cronos with spirt vortexes 200pts

yumm pain tokens

edited:
for those that dont know what a Cronos is, its a DE Pain Engine like a Talos. T7 W3 I4 3+ save, MC, comes with a AP3 flamer and the spirit vortex is a str 3 ap 3 large blast. Gets a pain token whenever something dies.

Banewolf, 130 points. Wounds anything with a toughness value on 2+, AP3.

What Str? Can it hurt vehicles?

Joey wrote:

Exergy wrote:

for one squad I would say 1 Cronos with spirit vortex 100pts

Banewolf, 130 points. Wounds anything with a toughness value on 2+, AP3.

not so sure about this. Cronos is still gonna get FNP so it might take 6 rounds to down one. The cronos is going to charge with 3 attacks, Str6 +2d6 armor pen. Half hit, and most pen.


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Joey wrote:
Banewolf, 130 points. Wounds anything with a toughness value on 2+, AP3.

but fine. 1 ork warbuggie with rokkit launcher. 35pts

Paladin. 55 points.

Ailaros wrote:guardsman Marbo - 65 points

'Nuff said really

liquidjoshi wrote:Paladin. 55 points.

?

you need 6's to glance and then 6's to pen.

alternitively you fail one 2+ save and you are dogmeat.

a paladin with a psycannon works though. 75 points, illegal and over twice the cost but works.

to that i say 3 wracks in a raider with a night shield. 95pts

Hydra Flak Tank 75

Deadshot wrote:Hydra Flak Tank 75

Skyray with BC, DP-140

Vindicare 145

Deadshot wrote:Vindicare 145

There's a 50% chance my DP stops your turbo penetrator, and then you have 2 str 8 missile and 6 str 5 shots at you, so you'd lose.

Not if I am inflitrating in cover and go to ground for 2+ cover and 6+ FNp against str 5 weapons.

Deadshot wrote:Not if I am inflitrating in cover and go to ground for 2+ cover and 6+ FNp against str 5 weapons.

Doesn't change my cover ignoring BS5 missiles.

plus if you G2G I can take you apart at leisure because you can retaliate.

Still have a 4++. Might get lucky. Meh.