World Eaters for 40K - reveals great-looking models but not enough of them; existing players disappointed as increasingly-Flanderised dedicated codex invalidates half their armies
HH - Assault Squad box. Upgrade set with Jump Packs, Breacher Shields, perhaps specialist weapons (I really need to learn all the options!), Deredeo, a couple of tanks (Deimos Vindicator and….I wanna say the Heavy Tank variants of the Leviathan)
Hopefully both Destruction Armies for AoS are revealed and new Season of Underworlds rather than just showing the rest of the Khorne warband. No Warcry or Killteam probably too early to reveal more.
Thirsty for some HH Assault Marines. With RT era appropriate jump packs. But no idea what we'll get really. Plastic Dreadclaw based pods would be a dream come true tbh
They already revealed one model for the new warband, and last warband for this season. As an underworlds player, I am very excited to see the rest of the warband. Love the khorne dudes!
Wish I could remember where to find the AoS roadmap. Presumably they'll actually announce the next four books (destruction, order, destruction, chaos? Or am I misremembering?)
A handful of models shown at most.
HH will be... hmm. I want it to be more infantry types (especially assault troops and mk5), but I figure a couple sicaran turret variants, maybe vindicators.
40k- a 'full look' at berserkers and angron and a teaser of 'something more.'
Underworlds- lizards warband featuring that chameleon skink.
"The biggest reveal yet is coming at the end of the month, so join us for Warhammer Community’s coverage of the NOVA Open reveals and see more of what the Kin have to offer"
Yeah.
Votann we know as they’ve said.
Underworlds Khorne because they showed one. Need the rest shown.
AoS and HH I dunno. Books for one and a box for the other.
"The biggest reveal yet is coming at the end of the month, so join us for Warhammer Community’s coverage of the NOVA Open reveals and see more of what the Kin have to offer"
Well not much left and we know land train is coming so...
Voss wrote: Wish I could remember where to find the AoS roadmap. Presumably they'll actually announce the next four books (destruction, order, destruction, chaos? Or am I misremembering?)
A handful of models shown at most.
HH will be... hmm. I want it to be more infantry types (especially assault troops and mk5), but I figure a couple sicaran turret variants, maybe vindicators.
40k- a 'full look' at berserkers and angron and a teaser of 'something more.'
Underworlds- lizards warband featuring that chameleon skink.
I have the same "wants" for HH, but also the same "expectations". Honestly, the need for different infantry "types" could be handled by more accessory kits (melee weapons, boarding shields, jump packs), but some plastic true-scale Mark Vs would be nice.
I’d love to see some more plastic infantry for HH. The most annoying think about HH to me is that we do actually have 3 kits worth of plastic power armour for HH but it’s essentially the same kit 3 times because of this armour mark malarkey.
I actually hope they now double down on the MkVI (because it’s the best looking kit so far) and give us MkVI assault marines, despoilers etc. I know technically this could be done with upgrade sprues, but it would be nice to end up with more than 5 poses.
"The biggest reveal yet is coming at the end of the month, so join us for Warhammer Community’s coverage of the NOVA Open reveals and see more of what the Kin have to offer"
That's the only thing we haven't seen that had a datacard in the leak list.
I'm guessing that they'll showcase the Guard as next Codex released(OK_E had them as after Daemons+CSM, never really quantified where they would be in relation to LoV) with LoV getting a BT/SoB style starter army and then being first out the gate in 2023.
MonkeyBallistic wrote: I’d love to see some more plastic infantry for HH. The most annoying think about HH to me is that we do actually have 3 kits worth of plastic power armour for HH but it’s essentially the same kit 3 times because of this armour mark malarkey.
I actually hope they now double down on the MkVI (because it’s the best looking kit so far) and give us MkVI assault marines, despoilers etc. I know technically this could be done with upgrade sprues, but it would be nice to end up with more than 5 poses.
I strongly agree. I can handle making breachers with third party shields and some work, but the prospect of assault marines with those wide stanced shooting legs (and that same walking forward pose) is just... ugh.
The Underworlds tease is likely, given the new design for the logo, a look at Season 7 set in Hysh (probably just season name and some model silhouettes). Hopefully it will also include a look at more (all?) of the Khorne warband. The forthcoming Rival deck might get its name revealed too and a card or three.
This. Expecting either a flurry of vehicles or a single resin model though
I think they'll start filling in characters they're missing, or what with the Siege books coming to an end, they'll announce daemon primarchs.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I can potentially see MkII assault squads. First to get MkII across the Rubicon, second for those iconic Jump Packs.
Please God-Emperor no. I wanted normal plastic MkII, I didn't want that fate for them. To come on some piss-ant half sized frame with feth all variety only to be doubled up and called a "squad". No i'd rather have them stay in resin to then suffer that.
I'm all for those sweet sweet turbine jump packs though.
Serious, I lost the overview what all happened new released for Underworld in the last Months and whch Warbands we have...
With the shift to the Ulgu, the realm of shadow (i.e. Seasons 5 & 6), GW changed the release structure of Underworlds. Instead of each "season" spanning 12 months and 8 warbands (with just one boxset), they are now 6 months long and contain only 4 warbands + 1 Rivals card pack (still with 1 boxset each "season"). Effectively, we are still getting 8 warbands in one calendar year, but now with 2 boxsets instead of 1.
Season 6, Nethermaze, is near its end. Only the Khorne Gorechosen warband & the Rivals pack are left for release. Season 7 should be released in October or November containing 2 new warbands set in the realm of light.
Someone's been leaking hints on Reddit, apparently someone at NOVA got a copy of their powerpoint ahead of schedule:
Spoiler:
New eye-blistering price for the 20+ year old Rhino model. Buy them now when they're 'just' $50. A dude holding a comically oversized weapon over his head. He may be bald and/or screaming New ways to misspell the words 'Thunder' and 'Kin' Space Marines, but with slightly different hats
I can't swear to any of these but this guy hasn't been wrong so far!
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Someone's been leaking hints on Reddit, apparently someone at NOVA got a copy of their powerpoint ahead of schedule:
Spoiler:
New eye-blistering price for the 20+ year old Rhino model. Buy them now when they're 'just' $50.
A dude holding a comically oversized weapon over his head. He may be bald and/or screaming
New ways to misspell the words 'Thunder' and 'Kin'
Space Marines, but with slightly different hats
I can't swear to any of these but this guy hasn't been wrong so far!
Plastic Deredeo dread would be cool, but plastic assault/breacher infantry is far more important currently.
Although, I wonder if the shields will be separate, like an add-on? Would work with jump packs too. And instead of a box of assault marines, simply arms and weapons to create assault marines? Still, I am hoping they bring out plastic special weapons/heavy weapons for Mk3/4 squads...
"The biggest reveal yet is coming at the end of the month, so join us for Warhammer Community’s coverage of the NOVA Open reveals and see more of what the Kin have to offer"
That's the only thing we haven't seen that had a datacard in the leak list.
I'm guessing that they'll showcase the Guard as next Codex released(OK_E had them as after Daemons+CSM, never really quantified where they would be in relation to LoV) with LoV getting a BT/SoB style starter army and then being first out the gate in 2023.
"The biggest reveal yet is coming at the end of the month, so join us for Warhammer Community’s coverage of the NOVA Open reveals and see more of what the Kin have to offer"
That's the only thing we haven't seen that had a datacard in the leak list.
I'm guessing that they'll showcase the Guard as next Codex released(OK_E had them as after Daemons+CSM, never really quantified where they would be in relation to LoV) with LoV getting a BT/SoB style starter army and then being first out the gate in 2023.
We also haven’t seen the grimnyr/psyker
I think the hint is definitely for the Land Fortress but I'm hoping the showcase the full range -theres at least another 3 characters, probably a special character and I'm hoping for another couple of kits. They could also show off alt builds for some of the kits that have revealed.
Really hoping they also announce an advance release army set..
Not intersted in Heresy at all, but I hope you guys get to see some cool new stuff.
AoS - hopefully some interesting stuff generally, not expecting anything up my street but I'l be well served by seeing more of the Leagues.
AoS side I hope we start to see some of the new Cities of Sigmar starting to take shape. I'd also welcome GW adopting a general "update and add" policy for the game. So perhaps update a few models from an older army and then add a few more to smaller ones.
Plus I'd love to see Ossiarchs get a second wave of models. The Underworld Warband suggests that archers are likely to appear.
Heck I'd happily take Ossiarchs getting an across the board point and stat drop to let you field more models to give them more points room to add more models.
C'mon it's obvious all the weird wolfpire stuff in the last Soulblight book was meant for Cursed City and releasing those models again as expansions now would be awkward.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Imma be honest, I don't think Cursed City is ever getting any expansions.
Come on, GW said Cursed City expansions are coming. Surely they wouldn't lie to us about Cursed City!
That said, since Cursed City has already been released I could see them not wasting time on giving the reissued core game a separate release and just put it in the same week as the first expansion. And I think it may still be a little early in the year for that.
In retrospect i am happy they didn't release cursed city properly. Having now played it a few times its got no replayability and gets dull fast. If we want mindless dungeon crawling the original quest gets brought out...
They should probably call their next Warhammer Quest release "Very blessed and not at all built on a burial ground city" and see if they can shake the bad mojo from Cursed City.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Someone's been leaking hints on Reddit, apparently someone at NOVA got a copy of their powerpoint ahead of schedule:
New eye-blistering price for the 20+ year old Rhino model. Buy them now when they're 'just' $50. ....
I can't swear to any of these but this guy hasn't been wrong so far!
Maybe it'll get a new hat sprue?
Yea, I'm highly suspicious of this. It's not likely an online preview will have pricing let alone reveal a price increase for an old kit. However, they may be repacking the Rhino to be that command Rhino that was a Warhammer World exclusive.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Someone's been leaking hints on Reddit, apparently someone at NOVA got a copy of their powerpoint ahead of schedule:
New eye-blistering price for the 20+ year old Rhino model. Buy them now when they're 'just' $50.
....
I can't swear to any of these but this guy hasn't been wrong so far!
Maybe it'll get a new hat sprue?
Yea, I'm highly suspicious of this. It's not likely an online preview will have pricing let alone reveal a price increase for an old kit. However, they may be repacking the Rhino to be that command Rhino that was a Warhammer World exclusive.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Imma be honest, I don't think Cursed City is ever getting any expansions.
Me either. It would just bring back up all the frustration with the original botched release.
Eh not really considering GW did a made to order and regular production release is coming. So it shouldn't have any issues. If anything there's a bigger market of people who 100% want expansions.
lord_blackfang wrote: C'mon it's obvious all the weird wolfpire stuff in the last Soulblight book was meant for Cursed City and releasing those models again as expansions now would be awkward.
I’m really not convinced that we’re intended for Cursed City. All Warhammer Quest minis since Blackstone fortress have been push fit. The wolfy vampires were not.
tneva82 wrote: Ossiarchs for aos nope. They won't show now what comes next year and we know for sure this year no obr.
For aos gits&ogors most likely. Unliknly to have bigger reveal of std wltk gits and ogors before in silence.
Interesting to see if rumours of new spiders any reality
Have there been "reliable" rumors that ogors and gits are next? Kind of wondering if SoB will be this year since a new book would really only require one new mega-G kit or possibly a new sprue for the existing kit to provide a few new options for the army.
lord_blackfang wrote: C'mon it's obvious all the weird wolfpire stuff in the last Soulblight book was meant for Cursed City and releasing those models again as expansions now would be awkward.
None of them are push-fits and all of the characters (Rat guy, Annika, Babushka and exalted Radukar) are too large for the board segments. It's more likely that the battletome should have been - according to plan - the grand finale after the last expansion of Cursed City.
There are some areas on the map that weren't represented with models, so I expect ghouls, ghosts and maybe undead dryads in the expansions.
tneva82 wrote: Ossiarchs for aos nope. They won't show now what comes next year and we know for sure this year no obr.
For aos gits&ogors most likely. Unliknly to have bigger reveal of std wltk gits and ogors before in silence.
Interesting to see if rumours of new spiders any reality
Have there been "reliable" rumors that ogors and gits are next? Kind of wondering if SoB will be this year since a new book would really only require one new mega-G kit or possibly a new sprue for the existing kit to provide a few new options for the army.
Theres's 2 factions left without any aos3 update. Both destruction.
Sob got already aos3 update. You think gw would leave the 2 without any update until next year?
If they wanted sob in fall they would have given wd update to gits or ogors but since those stopped...
You can disbelieve but i'm willing to bet with cash if wd updates were still coming sure but those are over.
tneva82 wrote: Ossiarchs for aos nope. They won't show now what comes next year and we know for sure this year no obr.
For aos gits&ogors most likely. Unliknly to have bigger reveal of std wltk gits and ogors before in silence.
Interesting to see if rumours of new spiders any reality
Have there been "reliable" rumors that ogors and gits are next? Kind of wondering if SoB will be this year since a new book would really only require one new mega-G kit or possibly a new sprue for the existing kit to provide a few new options for the army.
Theres's 2 factions left without any aos3 update. Both destruction.
Sob got already aos3 update. You think gw would leave the 2 without any update until next year?
If they wanted sob in fall they would have given wd update to gits or ogors but since those stopped...
You can disbelieve but i'm willing to bet with cash if wd updates were still coming sure but those are over.
You can do whatever you like with your money, I am just making conversation. I agree that the current trend with the WDs does support the idea, but at some point those armies that got WD updates are going to receive new battletomes. Since a new SoB book could launch with minimum new models, it could be a simple plug-in release if GW decides to shift things around for whatever reason. Again, only speculating/wondering since I don't recall viewing any screen-captures/potato-camera shots/or Reddit quotes regarding destruction armies like I have seen for the other factions. I don't think it is unreasonable to assume that the two upcoming books are somewhere in the wild given other leaks that are not scheduled until after said books unless they are both minimum effort releases.
lord_blackfang wrote: C'mon it's obvious all the weird wolfpire stuff in the last Soulblight book was meant for Cursed City and releasing those models again as expansions now would be awkward.
I’m really not convinced that we’re intended for Cursed City. All Warhammer Quest minis since Blackstone fortress have been push fit. The wolfy vampires were not.
They definitely weren’t.
That’s not the speed and timeline GW do things. They aren’t just going to write them in to change what it’s for.
Notwithstanding the fact it isn’t push fit as mentioned.
People just see the issues with CC, and everything else “must be” damage control.
I see no reason they wouldn’t release the expansions shortly after CC is back in stock proper or whatever they said was happening. The rerelease.
So later in the year it will come.
And yeah, they announced expansions. They’re obviously coming.
Ridiculous to think they’d do that ant then not. Just like all the people saying maybe Old World isn’t ever gonna come out (hopefully they’re just tongue in cheek, but with half this lot who knows).
It’s like no one understands how businesses work at the best of times, let alone post covid, delivery issues, China prices and all this other stuff.
Always has to be a conspiracy.
Sure GW aren’t the best, price rises are getting ridiculous for one. But they still care about their customers not to feth them about (which is to say they care about money, which comes from customers).
Crispy78 wrote: World Eaters for 40K - reveals great-looking models but not enough of them; existing players disappointed as increasingly-Flanderised dedicated codex invalidates half their armies
The worst would be Angron standing next to the new Berzerkers and that's it, because it would confirm the rumors that there's nothing else coming (except the rumored flying juggerlord).
Crispy78 wrote: World Eaters for 40K - reveals great-looking models but not enough of them; existing players disappointed as increasingly-Flanderised dedicated codex invalidates half their armies
The worst would be Angron standing next to the new Berzerkers and that's it, because it would confirm the rumors that there's nothing else coming (except the rumored flying juggerlord).
We already have leaked pictures of some sort of crappy chaff unit though
Crispy78 wrote: World Eaters for 40K - reveals great-looking models but not enough of them; existing players disappointed as increasingly-Flanderised dedicated codex invalidates half their armies
The worst would be Angron standing next to the new Berzerkers and that's it, because it would confirm the rumors that there's nothing else coming (except the rumored flying juggerlord).
We already have leaked pictures of some sort of crappy chaff unit though
Oh yeah the god themed cultist unit that's most likely going to be Khorngors. I forgot about them in the background of the image. There's also the rumored "8 bloodletters possessing one marine" guy who's probably the one holding that big sword on the right side of the image.
I wouldn't call them potentially crappy but unless they're super cheap or have some kind of alternate use, I don't see a place for them as a melee unit in an army with Berzerkers in it.
Why did they shove a curly fry on the end of a bolter?
Is there going to be McDonalds brand boltgun?
In the grim darkness of the far future, there are still fast food corporations.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Why is there an ACOG at the end of the muzzle where the iron sights would be?
You seen the other Votann/Squat weapon designs? They're made by someone who's clearly heard of various weapon parts, but has no idea how they would (or would not) work together.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Why is there an ACOG at the end of the muzzle where the iron sights would be?
It's not an ACOG. I had a water pistol when I was a kid that had a rotating piece on top of the muzzle that the water sprayed out from, so you could 'surprise' people by shooting sideways instead of straight forwards.
Yeah, that's an Ork energy pistol. The gun silhouette is obviously Votann though, as judged by the background and the fact we saw a very, very similar design previously
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Yeah, that's an Ork energy pistol. The gun silhouette is obviously Votann though, as judged by the background and the fact we saw a very, very similar design previously
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Why is there an ACOG at the end of the muzzle where the iron sights would be?
You seen the other Votann/Squat weapon designs? They're made by someone who's clearly heard of various weapon parts, but has no idea how they would (or would not) work together.
Well the one in the picture posted is a robot, maybe he can view through the sight of the gun.
Well in fact maybe any/all LoV can do such stuff.
People weren’t afraid of guns when they first saw them, as they took it to be something they knew from their own knowledge/place in history. Till they fired.
Maybe people in 40,000 years would laugh at you for thinking that’s just a sight.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Yeah, that's an Ork energy pistol. The gun silhouette is obviously Votann though, as judged by the background and the fact we saw a very, very similar design previously
That, and the pun about "Leagues"
Yeah, I was thinking that it was a Leagues version of that Ork gun, or Orks salvaged one somehow, since it has the same sort of barrel.
Bob Lorgar wrote: Can't be a gargant, they either have treads or mechanical feet shaped like boots. Might be a giant, though.
I totally get where you're coming from, because I am also coming from the kitchen table in our dorm in 1993, but Gargants are the new, more trademarkable, name for Giants I'm afraid
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: I guess it could be a box of endless spells for the Orruks, featuring a Foot of Gork(amorka), which is clearly the best foot?
Is it just me, or has GW abandoned the Endless Spell concept?
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: I guess it could be a box of endless spells for the Orruks, featuring a Foot of Gork(amorka), which is clearly the best foot?
Is it just me, or has GW abandoned the Endless Spell concept?
I don't think they've abandoned it, its just something that they realise isn't going to be a feature they can roll out for every army for every update. The armies that don't have them seem to be creative outliers. Orruks and Cities of Sigmar were both more rescue battletomes for 2.0 (cities especially) and I get the feeling GW just wasn't quite sure what to do with either. Orruks got some new grimmer, darker orks but their lore is still very much 40K orks in fantasy right now. Cities are set to get a big update upcoming which will be interesting to see; esp as Cities was billed as the united races force and yet it seems to just be the humans getting an update.
Sometimes GW is really strange in how they will do X for every faction and then not do X for two or three factions almost at random. Or suddenly abandon X and start doing Y.
I do wonder if sometimes its budget or management or if the whole "creative led" element has a backfire when no one, or no one popular/skilled/pushy enough ends up doing a specific army and that army gets "left behind" .
I'm hoping that the micro blurr-pic is a dreadnought, mech suit, or robot for the LoV. Flesh out out the range a bit. We're going to see in about 48th hours.
Overread wrote: I don't think they've abandoned it, its just something that they realise isn't going to be a feature they can roll out for every army for every update.
Nurgle didn't get any, even when the other four flavours (including Khorne!) did. That always struck me as odd.
Overread wrote: The armies that don't have them seem to be creative outliers. Orruks and Cities of Sigmar were both more rescue battletomes for 2.0 (cities especially) and I get the feeling GW just wasn't quite sure what to do with either. Orruks got some new grimmer, darker orks but their lore is still very much 40K orks in fantasy right now. Cities are set to get a big update upcoming which will be interesting to see; esp as Cities was billed as the united races force and yet it seems to just be the humans getting an update.
Cities was always a stop-gap until they can replace the legacy model ranges. Doesn't surprise me that they don't have any. Orcs not having any is a surprise though.
Overread wrote: Sometimes GW is really strange in how they will do X for every faction and then not do X for two or three factions almost at random. Or suddenly abandon X and start doing Y.
It's their paradigm shifts. They can't go a full edition without a singular design goal in mind. We're seeing it right now in 9th Edition 40k.
JSG wrote: Okay... That pic is of a Mantic Forge Father Articifer Juggernaut. It's fake.
I'm pretty sure it is as well. It would be so funny if it wasn't though. Imagine Mantic suing GW for IP violation, not to mention all the people using the vastly cheaper Mantic model.
JSG wrote: Okay... That pic is of a Mantic Forge Father Articifer Juggernaut. It's fake.
I'm pretty sure it is as well. It would be so funny if it wasn't though. Imagine Mantic suing GW for IP violation, not to mention all the people using the vastly cheaper Mantic model.
They'd probably use it as a marketing opportunity. You know, why wait years for GW to make something you can get from us right now and all that.
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: I guess it could be a box of endless spells for the Orruks, featuring a Foot of Gork(amorka), which is clearly the best foot?
Is it just me, or has GW abandoned the Endless Spell concept?
Faction terrain pieces seem to be in a similar boat, too. In fact, I'm just bored enough to wrestle with the GW site for long enough for a quick survey - any inaccuracies are due to their store...
Spoiler:
Has Endless Spells & Faction Terrain
- Fyreslayers
- Lumineth Realm-lords***
- Sylvaneth
- Beasts of Chaos
- Blades of Khorne
- Hedonites of Slaanesh
- Skaven
- Flesh-eater Courts
- Ossiarch Bonereapers
- Gloomspite Gitz
Has Endless Spells but no Faction Terrain
- Daughters of Khaine
- Stormcast Eternals
- Slaves to Dorkness
- Nighthaunt
- Disciples of Tzeentch*
Has Faction Terrain but no Endless Spells
- Idoneth Deepkin
- Lizardmen
- Maggotkin of Nurgle
- Ogor Mawtribes
Has neither Endless Spells nor Faction Terrain
- Cities of Sigmar
- Kharadron Overlords
- Soulblight Gravelords
- Orruk Warclans
- Sons of Behemat**
* - As an aside, is it just me, or does the Disciples of Tzeentch tab really not want to load? Ended up having to skim everything in the Grand Alliance Chaos when looking for the units for that one...
** - Admittedly, I'm not sure if Endless Spells (or an equivalent) really fit with the faction, but what do I know?
*** - Who also have too many releases for as new a faction as they are, especially compared to the likes of DoK, Fyreslayers, Idoneth & Kharadron - High Elf favoritism strikes again...
I make it 10 factions missing Faction Terrain, 9 missing Endless Spells (or equivalents) - reduce that to 9 & 8 if you want to exclude the Giants from either. Both seem to be fairly open goals in terms of sales, and some of them shouldn't be that hard to come up with concepts for, surely?
Honestly there's no reason for any of them really to be missing anything, except perhaps Gargants and Endless Spells as I don't think they have any casters at all right now?
But yeah in general there's no reason or pattern. Heck some of the terrain features are also impractical. Eg the Ossiarch Bonereapers one is designed to sit in the middle of the battlefield, yet its freaking massive.
The next underworlds warband is Khorne. It doesn't necessarily mean World Eaters though that does seem likely.
World Eaters for the Underworlds? You mean for the Kill Team?
No, he meant Khornates for Underworlds. Which is what he said.
Yes, and yet he also said ''It doesn't necessarily mean World Eaters though that does seem likely.''. WE are not in AoS so it was probable he meant KT/40k.
Apologies for paraphrasing. I meant that the Khorne symbol could just refer to the Khorne Warhammer underworlds warband that we've already seen one model for (and will potentially feature a new kind of Khorne Deamon by the way), but that there's a good chance that we will also see some stuff for Worldeaters as we've already seen the leaked and then revealed Angron and the slightly more official Bezerker preview.
Edit -check out the guy crouching on the bridge. Apparently the model will look a bit like the Deamon Brutes from Horus Heresy.
Chikout wrote: Apologies for paraphrasing. I meant that the Khorne symbol could just refer to the Khorne Warhammer underworlds warband that we've already seen one model for (and will potentially feature a new kind of Khorne Deamon by the way), but that there's a good chance that we will also see some stuff for Worldeaters as we've already seen the leaked and then revealed Angron and the slightly more official Bezerker preview.
No need to apology And yeah, it would be nice if they would show us some more WE models (hopefully there are enough to make them really different from other CSM armies).
Chikout wrote: Apologies for paraphrasing. I meant that the Khorne symbol could just refer to the Khorne Warhammer underworlds warband that we've already seen one model for (and will potentially feature a new kind of Khorne Deamon by the way), but that there's a good chance that we will also see some stuff for Worldeaters as we've already seen the leaked and then revealed Angron and the slightly more official Bezerker preview.
No need to apology And yeah, it would be nice if they would show us some more WE models (hopefully there are enough to make them really different from other CSM armies).
You're going to lose more than you've had just like with Death Guard and Thousand Sons. It's inevitable, and pretending it won't be the case is just plain silliness.
I've heard that Ogors and Sons of Behemet will be combined. I leave it to one of the Godfathers of All Things Ogors, Doom & Darkness. Again, this is what he has heard from others around and the rumor they would combine. It could be fake news but it could be real. We should probably find out later this week.
boyd wrote: I've heard that Ogors and Sons of Behemet will be combined. I leave it to one of the Godfathers of All Things Ogors, Doom & Darkness. Again, this is what he has heard from others around and the rumor they would combine. It could be fake news but it could be real. We should probably find out later this week.
Honest Wargamer Rob put out a tweet shortly after the foot teaser that the books are being combined just as a wind up and to see how far it would go (I happened to have the stream on when he did it) so if that's the source it's fake.
Chikout wrote: Apologies for paraphrasing. I meant that the Khorne symbol could just refer to the Khorne Warhammer underworlds warband that we've already seen one model for (and will potentially feature a new kind of Khorne Deamon by the way), but that there's a good chance that we will also see some stuff for Worldeaters as we've already seen the leaked and then revealed Angron and the slightly more official Bezerker preview.
Edit -check out the guy crouching on the bridge. Apparently the model will look a bit like the Deamon Brutes from Horus Heresy.
Pffffffffrtttt. My sleep patterns are quite healthy, thank you. Apart from the twice weekly, commute required, 4:30am alarms. At least they are for now. If my landlord is agreeable, I’m adopting a Senior Labrador, so no doubt cold, wet noses will be in my future.
Starts at 1am right? So it will probably go until 2 or so. Ill catch up tomorrow then, Im probably still up at that time but not in a mood to pay attention to anything
NAVARRO wrote: Starts at 1am right? So it will probably go until 2 or so. Ill catch up tomorrow then, Im probably still up at that time but not in a mood to pay attention to anything
It's not a vidcast, it's an article covering stuff from a live seminar. Should all go up at once on the hour, I think.
I’ll be mad if the 40k stuff is mostly squat focused. We know they should release next month, so why bother showing off a handful of models that we’ll be seeing soon enough anyway
GaroRobe wrote: I’ll be mad if the 40k stuff is mostly squat focused. We know they should release next month, so why bother showing off a handful of models that we’ll be seeing soon enough anyway
Especially since a lot of people will only check the GW site for big announcements like that. So they aren't checking every article or looking for leaks or reading reddit pages and such. A big part of marketing is repeating information so that different customer segments get as full a picture as possible.
NAVARRO wrote: Starts at 1am right? So it will probably go until 2 or so. Ill catch up tomorrow then, Im probably still up at that time but not in a mood to pay attention to anything
It's not a vidcast, it's an article covering stuff from a live seminar. Should all go up at once on the hour, I think.
Oh? Ok then If thats the case Ill take a look and then have nightmares of how much that is going to cost
GaroRobe wrote: I’ll be mad if the 40k stuff is mostly squat focused. We know they should release next month, so why bother showing off a handful of models that we’ll be seeing soon enough anyway
They've had preview events showing off stuff we've already seen before, so stuff a month in advance is a big step forward.
GaroRobe wrote: I’ll be mad if the 40k stuff is mostly squat focused. We know they should release next month, so why bother showing off a handful of models that we’ll be seeing soon enough anyway
We have been drop feed with squat minis news for the past weeks, so this, IMO is a good chance to collate all and reveal all that is remaining in one go.
I expect the 40k announcement to be mostly that.
GaroRobe wrote: I’ll be mad if the 40k stuff is mostly squat focused. We know they should release next month, so why bother showing off a handful of models that we’ll be seeing soon enough anyway
We know that there's a "big reveal" coming for them, per last week's article on the Votann. We also didn't get a League article this week.
I'd hazard a guess that the intention is revealing the range and an army box tonight.
GaroRobe wrote: I’ll be mad if the 40k stuff is mostly squat focused. We know they should release next month, so why bother showing off a handful of models that we’ll be seeing soon enough anyway
Because people have been waiting since April to see the range properly? Hopefully they ave a few more units to show off as well as characters and we haven't really seen the range together yet. Its nice for a faction to get its time in the sun -especially for the squats as they've been gone for so long and been brought back- how can they not make a big deal out of that?
I'm sure they will show off some Guard and World eaters stuff -which would have been more impactful if someone hadn't leaked images from both factions.
In the past, reveals may only focus on one thing per GW category. I don’t mind if they show off the land train and squat characters but I don’t want that to be the sole 40k focus
NAVARRO wrote: Starts at 1am right? So it will probably go until 2 or so. Ill catch up tomorrow then, Im probably still up at that time but not in a mood to pay attention to anything
It's not a vidcast, it's an article covering stuff from a live seminar. Should all go up at once on the hour, I think.
Oh? Ok then If thats the case Ill take a look and then have nightmares of how much that is going to cost
No, it's being livestreamed on their Twitch channel. Says so right in the preview video from the War-Com article.
GaroRobe wrote: I’ll be mad if the 40k stuff is mostly squat focused. We know they should release next month, so why bother showing off a handful of models that we’ll be seeing soon enough anyway
We know that there's a "big reveal" coming for them, per last week's article on the Votann. We also didn't get a League article this week.
I'd hazard a guess that the intention is revealing the range and an army box tonight.
I think they said on WarCom that the first battle report video featuring the Votann was going to be up on W+ this week, so they kind of need to reveal the range before they show it in action...
Crispy78 wrote: I think they said on WarCom that the first battle report video featuring the Votann was going to be up on W+ this week, so they kind of need to reveal the range before they show it in action...
That battle report dropped today, but doesn't really show us anything we haven't already seen. I put a screenshot of the army list in the Squats Return thread.
Crispy78 wrote: I think they said on WarCom that the first battle report video featuring the Votann was going to be up on W+ this week, so they kind of need to reveal the range before they show it in action...
That battle report dropped today, but doesn't really show us anything we haven't already seen. I put a screenshot of the army list in the Squats Return thread.
Not in terms of models, but it sounds like it (and the article on WHC) revealed several rules we weren't aware of.
KillerAngel wrote: That battle report dropped today, but doesn't really show us anything we haven't already seen. I put a screenshot of the army list in the Squats Return thread.
Not in terms of models, but it sounds like it (and the article on WHC) revealed several rules we weren't aware of.
Yes, you are correct. I was referring strictly to models, apologies that wasn't explicitly stated.
Given the Battle Report, the Army List and everything not showing us a single new thing, I am frankly of the opinion that the only Votann things left to reveal will be a single HQ unit, a Brokhyr, and the Land Fortress.
Given the Battle Report, the Army List and everything not showing us a single new thing, I am frankly of the opinion that the only Votann things left to reveal will be a single HQ unit, a Brokhyr, and the Land Fortress.
Bridging threads slightly here, but being a 3 part Crusade battle report, I suspect they intentionally released part 1 prior to announcing the rest of the range. I can't speak to how large that range would be, but Simon specifically said he's saving his increased supply limit for something big. As you suggest, Land Fortress perhaps? Either way, the three parts should start to show off the full range as they are revealed.
It's Odin, as his ornament is a raven and he looks like he's even missing an eye.
(then again, I heard Tolkien based Gandalf on Odin's "mortal" disguise)
More like "Wotan" (okay it's the same god but Votann is very influenced by Odin's west germanic name....)
Odins mortal form is described as: "Old Man in long coat with a staff and and a broad brimmed hat, covering his right eye - what ever he ask for, fullfill his wish..."
H.B.M.C. wrote: Aren't you all excited to hear about Adam's unbuilt resin Leviathan dread?
Yes, I rather enjoy the community aspect of the streams and being talked to like a human being. Just read the blog in an hour if all you want is the news and stop whining.
I hope he has to deal with none of the pieces remotely fitting together without having to painstakingly bend every single one of the bastarding things back into shape.
Prometheum5 wrote: Yes, I rather enjoy the community aspect of the streams and being talked to like a human being. Just read the blog in an hour if all you want is the news and stop whining.
We're not "whining". We're having fun. Get a grip.
I hate the Iron-Master's bots.
They seem to serve as an argument to justify flying bases if 'flying above terrain models' are going to look this horrible.
Oh, nope. The ones on flying stands with Odyn also look terrible.
So its a secular society with a counts-as-priest (and psyker).... why? I mean, I get the psyker part, but secular priest is an odd choice.
"Do you know what their psyker powers are?"
"No."
... real good show guys. Class A coverage.
(To be fair to choppinboard, they hadn't mentioned the codex yet when I posted. So I edited it in. The reply quote timing may have worked out badly)
Uses the same core frame with a lot of new parts. So like a 40K Knight, they've used the same core and then expanded upon it.
Which makes sense for such a big slow to sell model
Tzeentch and Elfs squeezing in the next three weeks ('Summer')
Ogres and Giants in autumn.
Slaves to Darkness winter. Who get pretty much all the models.
New eye-blistering price for the 20+ year old Rhino model. Buy them now when they're 'just' $50.
if 
We're not "whining". We're having fun. Get a grip.
