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Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/15 21:54:56


Post by: Aldarionn


 Kanluwen wrote:
 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I see the bombing fleet, which is only recently introduced, as a way militarizing the seemingly incapable Volus. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying they're the new Krogan. I wouldn't doubt the total number of Volus with combat experience is in the double digits.

The "Volus Bombing Fleet" is nothing new.

It's existed since Mass Effect 1.

So no matter how it's spun, the Volus were a completely inappropriate choice for Retaliation.

Plus they're Ultra Rare and ruining my freaking Typhoon chances.



Wait, they are actually Ultra Rare? I think that might just kill this game for me. I've said as much on the BSN forums. It's difficult enough to grind out credits to get Ultra Rare weapons you actually want. Putting in a class option that I have no interest in makes it even worse.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/15 21:57:15


Post by: Kanluwen


They are UR. They're far, far, far more common than UR weapons.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/15 22:23:05


Post by: Aldarionn


Yeah. Not interested.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/15 22:25:30


Post by: Kanluwen


Imagine how annoyed it makes me, Ald.

I have the Volus Adept/Engineer both with two customization options.

That is four Typhoons that could have been had.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/15 22:48:34


Post by: Aldarionn


 Kanluwen wrote:
Imagine how annoyed it makes me, Ald.

I have the Volus Adept/Engineer both with two customization options.

That is four Typhoons that could have been had.

/point

/laugh


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/15 22:59:58


Post by: warboss


 Kanluwen wrote:


So no matter how it's spun, the Volus were a completely inappropriate choice for Retaliation.

Plus they're Ultra Rare and ruining my freaking Typhoon chances.




I agree somewhat about the volus. I would have preferred them staying with the engineer only and *maybe* the adept as a homage to the long running biotic god joke but the two additional biotic volus classes are an insult to the salarians (a council race with a previous ME companion!) and the drell (previous companion) whom they will outnumber. Devoting 4 slots in the probable last DLC is ridiculous when 0-2 would have sufficed and satifised all but the most ardent ME minor race fans. As for them being ultra rare, they supposedly don't take up "weapon slots". If you would have gotten a class in that rare slot, you have some % chance of upgrading that "rare class" to an UR just like with weapons. I can't give you a quote but a dev posted that in the first day or so after the DLC was released.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/15 23:06:34


Post by: Kanluwen


I cannot get classes, at all, anymore aside from the commons.

So they're taking weapon slots.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/16 00:17:28


Post by: FM Ninja 048


All you guys moaning about not getting your ultra rares, while I'm still grasping for rares.

I seriously think ME3s unlock system is bullgak, there should be the crate system, but also guns/characters for sale, at the same price as their respective crate, so you can forgo the extras to get something you really want.



Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/16 01:48:57


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


I think this Volus must already have some super-Volus suit. They're definately faster than any Volus I've seen. Anyways I like them but I guess if they're ultra-rare I'll never get to play one. You can't get ultra-rares from the 20,000 credit pack I assume?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/16 01:55:20


Post by: Kanluwen


You never, ever, ever see a Volus move in a combat situation before.

You just see them move around in the Citadel/Omega/safe zones.

But yeah. You can't really get them from Veteran Packs, but once you max out the Uncommons KC, you'll want to move up to the next step anyways (which for you would actually be the 99k packs to unlock the most Rares as quickly as possible) and they have a higher than normal chance for URs.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/16 05:24:27


Post by: warboss


 Kanluwen wrote:
I cannot get classes, at all, anymore aside from the commons.

So they're taking weapon slots.


No, they're not as you're still technically "getting" classes even if you don't see them. If you can't get regular rare classes because you have them all unlocked at max customization, the class is replaced with a level IV ammo instead. It doesn't default to a weapon or gear or any other card for that rare slot if the randomized pack has determined you "got" a character card. If you roll the virtual dice and end up with an ultra rare card that isn't maxed instead of a regular rare, you get that instead of the level IV ammo that would have normally dropped. That's how their random store system works.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/16 05:40:16


Post by: Kanluwen


 warboss wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
I cannot get classes, at all, anymore aside from the commons.

So they're taking weapon slots.


No, they're not. If you can't get regular rare classes because you have them all, you get a level IV ammo instead. It doesn't default to a weapon or gear or any other card for that rare slot. If you roll the virtual dice and end up with an ultra rare card that isn't maxed instead of a regular rare, you get that instead of the level IV ammo. That's how their system works.

Actually that's exactly how it works.

Priority goes to Weapons/Characters.
Once those are maxed out they are taken out of the "pool", and the list of random items goes to "supplemental" items such as Weapon customizing items (barrels, scopes, etc) and both permanent and consumable Gear mods.

Ultra Rares, as you mentioned, are "rolled for" but what you're failing to recognize is that they recently applied the same "Weapons/Characters" formula now to the Ultra Rares pool.

Which means that you are going to be consistently receiving "upgrades" rather than actual new items.

I.E.:
I bought 4 Premium Spectre Packs today after doing Golds for a bit.
From those 4 PSPs, I received the following items:
Medi-Gel Transmitter II and III (same pack) with a Volus Adept character customization option.
Survivor Loadout III and Responder Loadout III with the Uncommon being Adaptive War Amp V.
Assault Loadout IV, Sniper Rifle Thermal Scope III, and an UR in the form of a Volus Engineer customization option.
Shotgun High Velocity Barrel III and Assault Rifle High Velocity Barrel IV from my last pack.

Now, why does that matter?
Because ever since the introduction of the Volus(last Tuesday) and I received them in packs(Engineer and Adept both in the same package) ...they are the only Ultra Rares I have received.

So yeah. I'd say it's pretty conclusive that they are in fact "replacing weapons", because I am not the only person that this is happening to.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/16 05:53:45


Post by: warboss


 Kanluwen wrote:

Actually that's exactly how it works.

Priority goes to Weapons/Characters.
Once those are maxed out they are taken out of the "pool", and the list of random items goes to "supplemental" items such as Weapon customizing items (barrels, scopes, etc) and both permanent and consumable Gear mods.

Ultra Rares, as you mentioned, are "rolled for" but what you're failing to recognize is that they recently applied the same "Weapons/Characters" formula now to the Ultra Rares pool.

Which means that you are going to be consistently receiving "upgrades" rather than actual new items.

I.E.:
I bought 4 Premium Spectre Packs today after doing Golds for a bit.
From those 4 PSPs, I received the following items:
Medi-Gel Transmitter II and III (same pack) with a Volus Adept character customization option.
Survivor Loadout III and Responder Loadout III with the Uncommon being Adaptive War Amp V.
Assault Loadout IV, Sniper Rifle Thermal Scope III, and an UR in the form of a Volus Engineer customization option.
Shotgun High Velocity Barrel III and Assault Rifle High Velocity Barrel IV from my last pack.

Now, why does that matter?
Because ever since the introduction of the Volus(last Tuesday) and I received them in packs(Engineer and Adept both in the same package) ...they are the only Ultra Rares I have received.

So yeah. I'd say it's pretty conclusive that they are in fact "replacing weapons", because I am not the only person that this is happening to.


So... your personal anecdotal "evidence" of maybe a couple dozen packs covers the entire possibility of the millions of randomized game packs? Please... you're smarter than that. Just for the record, I've had my rares (gears, characters, and weapons) maxed since before the DLC and have gotten almost a dozen UR weapons since it dropped disproving your theory. Either way, you don't seem to be listening to the reasons I've given because they contradict your personal view of the magic behind the RNG curtain so I'll just post this link to a Bioware devs saying the same thing I've been saying to you:

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/14424612/3#14425416

How's that for "pretty conclusive"?



Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/16 05:55:23


Post by: Kanluwen


I'm aware of Bryan Johnson's post.

I'm also aware that it contradicts common statistics.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/16 06:07:08


Post by: warboss


 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm aware of Bryan Johnson's post.

I'm also aware that it contradicts common statistics.


No, the post from the developer who does indeed have knowledge of the mechanics disputes your incredibly tiny anecdotal experience slice of the RNG store pie that you're stubbornly sticking to. My own experience agrees with his post as do the other friends I've played with that have gotten both UR weapons and characters during games we play. Frankly, I don't think anything will convince you except actually getting an UR yourself much like old Doubting Thomas story.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/16 06:17:38


Post by: Kanluwen


Except the whole point I'm making is what contradicts Bryan Johnson's statement.

Since I received my Volus, I have not received a single Ultra Rare weapon.

Prior to receiving said Volus(Saturday I received the Engineer and Adept both) and their "fix" on Thursday of removing repeat Retaliation characters past maxing their customization options, I received a Talon IV, Javelin IV, Scorpion V, Black Widow III, and Wraith VII.

I am not alone in this. The group of individuals that I play with regularly have all had the same experience, in that upon receiving a Volus their UR rate has significantly dropped and the few URs they have received were customization options for said Volus.

We're not playing "one or two matches" here either. The person who I regularly played with all this weekend, we saved up and bought slews of Spectres/Premium Spectre Packs each day from Thursday onwards.
Between my three titles/banners earned this weekend (Survivor, Death Guard, and the absurdly easy to obtain Mathemagician) we raked in some 15 Spectre Packs and 8 PSPs.

The individuals that I played with on Friday evening alongside of a developer as well all reported the same issue to said developer. The reply was "We're looking into it, but it shouldn't be happening".


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/16 11:27:45


Post by: FM Ninja 048


Technical Question

THIS is my inventory.

Should I keep Retalliation uninstalled until I get some more stuff, or just download it?

Ho would that effect my chances of getting stuff?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/16 15:23:06


Post by: warboss


 FM Ninja 048 wrote:
Technical Question

THIS is my inventory.

Should I keep Retalliation uninstalled until I get some more stuff, or just download it?

Ho would that effect my chances of getting stuff?


I'm not sure how multiplayer matching works exactly but I suspect from my own experience (with patches and balance updates not allowing players to join matches) that you'll only be matched with people in games with the exact DLC loadout you have. If that is the case, you may have trouble finding a match since the community is smaller now than before and you're limiting even more severely by not downloading the DLCs. One piece of advice I've seen floating around is that, if you desperately want items from one particular DLC, then save up your credits and delete all the other DLCs before you go on your spending spree. That way you still can play with everyone but you only get unlocks from the base game and that one DLC. The downside to this is that you spend time deleting and redownloading those DLCs.

In your case, I'd probably still recommend getting the DLC as it really does improve the overall feel of the game. If anything, I'd personally stick to almost exclusively buying veteran packs until you max out at least one uncommon weapon that you like in each category. It may not be as glamorous as getting a rare every purchase but having a Mattock X is still better than a rare rifle at level I both in terms of efficiency as well as looking good on your character when joining lobbies. Once you get some of them up to X, then switch to regular spectre packs for rares and the occasional ultrarare.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/16 19:47:50


Post by: Kanluwen


I'm willing to submit I might be wrong, as I FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY got the Typhoon I.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/16 21:03:29


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Pfff, it's no Volus supersoldier.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/17 01:12:30


Post by: Nerm86


Heya guys,

Im getting back into ME3 after a break for a couple months. I had an N7 rating (which i know doesnt mean much) of 850 odd. And friend and I are intending to smash ME3 this weekend, im really looking forward to it.

I was wondering if the new ingame achievements are listed anywhere? i can only find the ones that relate to single player.

Also anyone from the Australia/Oceania region add me on Origin, well anyone can add me really :p Im always looking for people to play with who dont quit/disconnect after wave 1. My Origin id is nerm86

Looking forward to playing ME3 with you guys


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/17 03:12:48


Post by: Kanluwen


Challenges are not related to achievements, and the Multiplayer Menu actually has a "Challenge" subsection you can use.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/17 04:50:05


Post by: warboss


Nerm86 wrote:
Heya guys,

Im getting back into ME3 after a break for a couple months. I had an N7 rating (which i know doesnt mean much) of 850 odd. And friend and I are intending to smash ME3 this weekend, im really looking forward to it.

I was wondering if the new ingame achievements are listed anywhere? i can only find the ones that relate to single player.

Also anyone from the Australia/Oceania region add me on Origin, well anyone can add me really :p Im always looking for people to play with who dont quit/disconnect after wave 1. My Origin id is nerm86

Looking forward to playing ME3 with you guys


Welcome back! The new DLC is definitely the shakeup the game needed (although some new objectives would be nice as well some point down the line). Just don't be surprised if the game is harder than you remember. If you haven't played for a while, it may take a bit of time to get back up to speed in addition to the actual increased difficulty the game has now since the DLC. I'd probably recommend trying out the collectors first despite them being the hardest opponent out there currently.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/17 05:46:34


Post by: Kanluwen


Bought the "Groundside Resistance Pack" to try out the two new guns and have the MP guns in SP.

Insanity is a joke with Garrus and Vegas toting Typhoons.

The new "Venom" Salarian Shotgun is absurdly awesome. It fires rapid, low damage grenades if you just fan the trigger.
If you hold the trigger down and charge it up? It releases the same single sized shell...which upon impacting a target or a wall, bursts into five more of those little grenades. It was hilarious to use against Guardians/Cerberus on the other side of hallways/corridors from cover on the N7 mission in SP which was the basis for Firebase Giant.

The new "Executioner" pistol is a Blood Pack design...and makes the Carnifex look like a peashooter.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/17 10:00:30


Post by: johnscott10


After having a look through some of the new stats thing online it has somewhat annoyed me.

I havn't done many of the operations due to being buys/ not caring much about them but now finding out that every one of them has been tracked and recorded is a bit annoying...

If they are gonna do a stats track then they should have had it from the start.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/18 17:25:28


Post by: FM Ninja 048


Collectors are AWESOME

my first battle against them was so good, we were doing silver on Firebase Condor, I used up all my items and only 1 person made it out alive.

Haven't had a fight that intesnse in a while.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/25 18:24:19


Post by: Kanluwen


The N7 Valkyrie is being added to the Commendation Packs.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/25 21:16:07


Post by: warboss


Cool, good to hear. The lack of an assault rifle in that lineup of promo weapons was strange.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/27 01:28:51


Post by: Compel


By my count, Operation Valkyrie would take 4 bronze missions or 2 silver missions for people.

Of course, me being me, it ended up taking 1 silver mission and 2.5 bronze missions....


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/10/27 05:38:34


Post by: Kanluwen


It took me a single Bronze solo against the Geth with the Turian Soldier with the N7 Hurricane and SMG mods on.

Got a stupid Eagle...


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/01 02:31:46


Post by: John Rainbow


I've got an Eagle V now. FML


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/01 08:35:14


Post by: Compel


I'm up to an Eagle VI....

Still not got a paladin.

On the bright side, I stole a build for a Turian soldier from the interwebs and the Eagle isn't completely useless now...


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/02 01:35:30


Post by: John Rainbow


Oh yeah? What build?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/02 01:47:38


Post by: Compel


Marksman with Firign Rate, Headshots and Accuracy+Firing Rate
0 in Concussive Shot
Proximity Mine: Recharge Speed, Damage, Radius, Damage Taken
Turian Veteran: Stability, Headshots, Stability
Fitness: Durability, recharge, fitness

Basically, you try to stick behind cover, then with the damage bonuses and marksman on as often as possible you pretty much have zero recoil and the ability to fire full auto. So you just do massive headshot damage.

It's very good on bronze and silver and is supposed to be playable on gold.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/02 05:51:28


Post by: Kanluwen


Yeah...

That's not a new build at all. It was designed with the N7 Hurricane in mind.

In fact, it was actually called the "Turricane".


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/02 09:01:18


Post by: Compel


I didn't claim it was a new build. In fact, the exact opposite, that it was one I found on the internet.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/02 13:02:13


Post by: Kanluwen


Well then, just trust me on this...

Try it with the Phaeston Assault Rifle(Piercing and Extended Magazine mods) or the Hurricane (Heat Sink and the SMG High Caliber Barrel) on that same character.

You will never, ever use the Eagle again.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/02 18:02:06


Post by: John Rainbow


I'll try it when I get my Eagle VI after this op...

Lol


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/02 18:27:09


Post by: warboss


You've only got an Eagle V? Son, you've got some catching up to do with me! :( I've got an even higher eagle.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/07 16:18:32


Post by: N'Ferno


Happy N7 Day!

Love the new trilogy wallpaper. Still waiting for Bioware to get to work and post the challenge of the day (blizzard in Edmonton lol).


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/15 05:37:50


Post by: warboss


Just a tidbit of new info.... apparently the next mass effect game will utilize some modified version of the Frostbite Battlefield engine instead of Unreal.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/15 20:23:17


Post by: Compel


They announced that's what they're using for Dragon Age 3: Inquisition


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/15 20:51:52


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


So far games I've played with the Unreal engine seem a lot better than Battlefield...Like a lot.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/15 21:45:19


Post by: warboss


I suspect the main reason would be that EA owns Frostbite so they wouldn't have to pay another developer/publisher any fees (like Epic with Unreal). It also doesn't hurt that the developer/publisher are moving away from an RPG with some shooter elements to a shooter with RPG elements so using a shooter only engine helps them to grow the fanbase. I may not be a big fan of that particular mode of growth (ME2's mix was the best IMO) but I see that as another possible reasont to choose a shooter specific engine over what is now an all purpose one despite its shooter roots.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/11/30 06:05:36


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Beat Omega. It was pretty good I guess but not ground breaking or anything like that. Mainly a loose plot thread being tied up.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/18 19:30:21


Post by: Kanluwen


There will be no balance updates for the next 3 weeks due to the Christmas holidays

Two new packs added to the store:
- Reserves Pack - for players who want character unlocks and upgrades
- Arsenal Pack - for players who want weapon unlocks and upgrades

Unlocking Volus Protector Vanguard and challenge
Unlocking Batarian Slasher Adept and challenge
Unlocking Drell Assassin Infiltrator and challenge

All hazard maps are now unlocked for the Christmas holidays

The Reserves and Arsenal Packs are 99k credits each.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/18 19:53:40


Post by: warboss


Interesting... They done it a bit early this week. Thanks for the update as I usually don't start looking there till around 5pm EST. I wonder if the new packs give a lesser UR drop rate than the PSP. I'd hope so seeing as how they're the same price with the same number of rare slots so as to preserve some reason to buy a PSP over the new packs. And ironically the new packs come out during the only week where I don't have 2-3 million saved up for the tuesday release, lol. Guess I burned out on the game a few days too early.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/18 20:01:40


Post by: Kanluwen


I tried one of each.

The Arsenal Packs and Reserve Packs give--as usual--preference for "new" things.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/19 23:00:36


Post by: Galdos


Does the game have a particullar method of choosing what character class it unlocks for you (Adepts, Soldiers, Vanguard, etc..)

Because the game has desided that any and everytime I unlock a character it is for the Adepts... the class I hate the most.

To give you an idea
3 unlocks for soldiers,
enough unlocks to hit lvls 7, 9, 10, and 12 for the bottom classes

and enough unlocks to hit lvl 16 TWICE for the Adepts. (The first time I also unlocked the N7 Fury, played with him until I got him promoted than stop, in 4 hours my lvl 1 class was back to lvl 16 without me putting even a second of time into him)


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/19 23:32:24


Post by: Kanluwen


It does not have any method, beyond this one:

Do you have all customization options for X Uncommon/Rare class? If yes, you cannot get it again. If no, you have a chance to get it.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/20 06:57:48


Post by: Galdos


 Kanluwen wrote:
It does not have any method, beyond this one:

Do you have all customization options for X Uncommon/Rare class? If yes, you cannot get it again. If no, you have a chance to get it.


So im just unlucky lol. Mkay thats what I figured (on both parts)


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/21 16:27:44


Post by: Cave_Dweller


Just picked this up the other day, got the deluxe n7 digital download. Man, this game is AWESOME!

I'm really digging these games that are like interactive movies. Also, the action is pretty damn good. The mission on the krogan home world where you summon that giant alien worm to take down the reaper had me on the edge of my seat.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/21 16:31:58


Post by: warboss


Have you played the entire trilogy in order? I'd highly recommend doing that as your choices do really matter 98% of the way through (except for the ending).


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/21 18:26:10


Post by: Cave_Dweller


 warboss wrote:
Have you played the entire trilogy in order? I'd highly recommend doing that as your choices do really matter 98% of the way through (except for the ending).


I've finished me2, but haven't got me1 yet. Might pick it up on steam now that the big sale is on.

I'm a little worried the ending will blow, as the massive public outcry filtered down to me before I even bought the game, and it's hard to look at anything about me3 without hearing the bitching about the ending. I guess it's more about the immersive journey, and that's what I've been enjoying most.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/21 18:35:25


Post by: warboss


 Cave_Dweller wrote:
 warboss wrote:
Have you played the entire trilogy in order? I'd highly recommend doing that as your choices do really matter 98% of the way through (except for the ending).


I've finished me2, but haven't got me1 yet. Might pick it up on steam now that the big sale is on.

I'm a little worried the ending will blow, as the massive public outcry filtered down to me before I even bought the game, and it's hard to look at anything about me3 without hearing the bitching about the ending. I guess it's more about the immersive journey, and that's what I've been enjoying most.


ME1 is a very different game (especially at low levels) that more resembles KOTOR with no combat turn pause than the later ME games regarding combat so don't be surprised at how jarring the difference is, especially in the beginning (at low levels with entry sniper gear, you shoot like a drunk sailor trying to play darts).

They really did a great job with the Krogan and Quarrian/Geth storylines and the finales of the first two games are of that quality... which is why the ending of the 3rd game was such a letdown initially before they expanded on it. The expanded stuff they added to the ending makes it a decent one and much improved from the initial almost identical except for the color coded special effects version. As long as you have the extended cut, you likely won't be disappointed. The ending still doesn't rival the movie climax feel of the first two but it's still decent with the added image stills and dialog tied to your choices.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/22 02:34:41


Post by: Cave_Dweller


 warboss wrote:
 Cave_Dweller wrote:
 warboss wrote:
Have you played the entire trilogy in order? I'd highly recommend doing that as your choices do really matter 98% of the way through (except for the ending).


I've finished me2, but haven't got me1 yet. Might pick it up on steam now that the big sale is on.

I'm a little worried the ending will blow, as the massive public outcry filtered down to me before I even bought the game, and it's hard to look at anything about me3 without hearing the bitching about the ending. I guess it's more about the immersive journey, and that's what I've been enjoying most.


ME1 is a very different game (especially at low levels) that more resembles KOTOR with no combat turn pause than the later ME games regarding combat so don't be surprised at how jarring the difference is, especially in the beginning (at low levels with entry sniper gear, you shoot like a drunk sailor trying to play darts).

They really did a great job with the Krogan and Quarrian/Geth storylines and the finales of the first two games are of that quality... which is why the ending of the 3rd game was such a letdown initially before they expanded on it. The expanded stuff they added to the ending makes it a decent one and much improved from the initial almost identical except for the color coded special effects version. As long as you have the extended cut, you likely won't be disappointed. The ending still doesn't rival the movie climax feel of the first two but it's still decent with the added image stills and dialog tied to your choices.



Played the hell out of both KOTOR games, they were excellent, although you felt like you were in a tunnel amusement ride after a while. The environments were very limited, and cut and paste kind of feeling.

Bioware generally does a superb job at making awesome PC RPGs. They've been forced to dumb things down for consoles, but still they're damn good games, like being in your own interactive movie, with great voice actors and immersive stories that really hook you in.

I'm gonna look for me1 on the steam sale.

So far me3 has surpassed my expectations, and I'm having quite a lot of fun with it. Games like this get me very addicted, and I'm not doing any painting!

Edit: the only criticism I have so far is the artifact scanning. It basically forces you to find the artifacts, wait for the reapers, reload your save game, then find the artifacts after you know their location, and evade the reapers. I know they wanted to have this sense of urgency in the game, but this is stupid. They made all these very in depth descriptions of every planet, and now you just ignore them because there's no reason to orbit any planet if you don't detect an artifact.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/23 11:38:08


Post by: Squigsquasher


I might buy the PS3 triple pack as it's the only way to get the first Mass Effect on PS3. Or I might get it on my shiny new PC, through Steam or Origin or whatever it is that it's on (can you log on to Origin on different computers and keep all your progress from a game after switching computers? I don't want to lose all my Spore progress! Long live the Tryextroplonk Empire!).

The ending is a bit rubbish from what I understand (basically amounting to red explosion, blue explosion or green explosion) but they released the free DLC for the proper ending to stop the bitching (thanks for that by the way, EA!) so that isn't so bad.

Alternatively I might just get my USB controller working properly and play some Metroid Prime and Conker the Squirrel's Bad Fur Day.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/25 20:12:35


Post by: Cave_Dweller


Man I just beat the game and it didn't disappointment in the slightest. I played the extended cut PC version, so maybe that changed things considerably from console experiences. I thought it brought excellent closure to the series.

I honestly don't think I've ever played a game with a storyline this epic, or characters so good you really cared about them. Very good writing all around and one of the best games I've ever had the pleasure of playing.


I picked up ME1 on the steam sale so I can play it all over agan and do things differently. I played as a combat engineer, but I want to try a biotic with the telekinetic abilities.

This game was the most cinematic experience ever on PC. Like being in your own interactive movie.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/26 17:37:33


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Yep, I enjoyed it.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2012/12/27 02:03:46


Post by: Galdos


Ya I actually enjoyed the hell out of that game. Even with the poor ending (thank you Expanded cut) I I loved the hell out of it


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/15 04:39:46


Post by: Kanluwen


Do we have anyone (besides Chemical Cutthroat and myself) still playing MP on Mass Effect 3 for the 360?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/15 18:18:20


Post by: Galdos


I was playing during Christmas off a 14 day live trial I got from Halo 4.

I plan to get XBox live soon. Im just waiting till my income is more reliable. When I did it in december I didnt really have aproblem finding games


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/15 21:11:29


Post by: warboss


I didn't notice any problems with games filling up this during this past n7 weekend. Although this weeks balance update is a bit sparse, the return of them plus N7 weekends after a month break should bring some more people back as well.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/15 22:31:56


Post by: Melissia


I'm finally about to start playing Mass Effect 3 (yay). Any tips on how to set up an ME3 run that will get the best sets of endings (IE highest war score) out of a paragon run?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/15 22:41:51


Post by: Compel


Make sure Legion and Tali are alive about covers it, I think.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/15 23:03:34


Post by: warboss


 Melissia wrote:
I'm finally about to start playing Mass Effect 3 (yay). Any tips on how to set up an ME3 run that will get the best sets of endings (IE highest war score) out of a paragon run?


The answer is... depends. What choices did you make with the Maelon in ME2? What did you do with the geth heretics in ME2?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/15 23:57:34


Post by: Melissia


 warboss wrote:
 Melissia wrote:
I'm finally about to start playing Mass Effect 3 (yay). Any tips on how to set up an ME3 run that will get the best sets of endings (IE highest war score) out of a paragon run?


The answer is... depends. What choices did you make with the Maelon in ME2? What did you do with the geth heretics in ME2?
I'm starting over from the start of ME1 for this run, either with a Sentinel or Adept.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/16 01:19:53


Post by: psychadelicmime


I love the multiplayer. Whenever I use vanguard I can't help but scream "The emperor protects!" whenever I biotic charge. I play on xbox. if anyone wants to play with me, let me know.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/16 01:41:04


Post by: Galdos


Complete all missions

Especially loyalty missions.

Thats really it.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/16 02:28:37


Post by: warboss


 Melissia wrote:
 warboss wrote:
 Melissia wrote:
I'm finally about to start playing Mass Effect 3 (yay). Any tips on how to set up an ME3 run that will get the best sets of endings (IE highest war score) out of a paragon run?


The answer is... depends. What choices did you make with the Maelon in ME2? What did you do with the geth heretics in ME2?
I'm starting over from the start of ME1 for this run, either with a Sentinel or Adept.


save the rachni and council, kill the heretics, help tali with the admiralty, and save maelons data.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/16 08:26:10


Post by: Galdos


 warboss wrote:
 Melissia wrote:
 warboss wrote:
 Melissia wrote:
I'm finally about to start playing Mass Effect 3 (yay). Any tips on how to set up an ME3 run that will get the best sets of endings (IE highest war score) out of a paragon run?


The answer is... depends. What choices did you make with the Maelon in ME2? What did you do with the geth heretics in ME2?
I'm starting over from the start of ME1 for this run, either with a Sentinel or Adept.


save the rachni and council, kill the heretics, help tali with the admiralty, and save maelons data.


*grumbles at the idea of anyone saving the Rachni or saving Maelon's data*


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/16 08:27:05


Post by: Melissia


I saved the Rachni Queen on my first Paragon run, well before ME2 or ME3 where we knew that it would carry over.

I dunno, I couldn't bring myself to kill it, knowing what I did from the datalogs.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/16 11:28:49


Post by: FM Ninja 048


I'm still on ME3 sometimes...

also Mel,

Talk to Wrex after every mission, get his family armour and defuse Virmire, you need Wrex in 2/3

In 2 make sure you do all loyalty missions before the reaper IFF, your next mission after that should be legions loyalty quest, then the crew will all survive.

It all boils down to Upper left blue the out of everything and do side missions before the main quest whenever you can


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/16 14:35:20


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


I saved the Rachni Queen. In fact you should if you're looking for the best ending. She gives you points I believe.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/16 15:39:53


Post by: Melissia


 FM Ninja 048 wrote:
I'm still on ME3 sometimes...

also Mel,

Talk to Wrex after every mission, get his family armour and defuse Virmire, you need Wrex in 2/3
Amusingly enough, I did that in my original run.

Although ME2 felt way too rushed to me :/ I was unsure how much sidequest I could do in that game...


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/16 17:55:14


Post by: Galdos


 FM Ninja 048 wrote:
I'm still on ME3 sometimes...

also Mel,

Talk to Wrex after every mission, get his family armour and defuse Virmire, you need Wrex in 2/3

In 2 make sure you do all loyalty missions before the reaper IFF, your next mission after that should be legions loyalty quest, then the crew will all survive.

It all boils down to Upper left blue the out of everything and do side missions before the main quest whenever you can


If you kill Wrex on Vermire (which I do on purpose, I love watching Ashley shoot him 3 extra times after he is on the floor) and side with the Salerians you get better results as you get the Krogan, the Salaraians, Mordin, and Wreav to support you.

In my first playthrough I had Wrex alive and I still got the best result even siding with the Salarians. (However thats not recomended. You loose like 100 points this way, if, like me you think the Genophage was a good idea, just kill Wrex on Vermire. Or save him just for that awsome scene on the Citadel when he fights you)


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/16 18:05:09


Post by: Melissia


I'd prefer to cure the genophage, but then again, I fail at being a renegade entirely...


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/16 20:41:18


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


There's a few loyalty missions you should do first. I think they are Tali's, Samara's and Zaeed's. If you wait to long the bonus paragon/renegade points you've acquired through ME1 will "decay" and you won't get all the options.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/16 20:50:02


Post by: Kanluwen


Tali and Samara's loyalty missions are key. Zaeed's is good, but not entirely necessary.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/16 22:19:30


Post by: Galdos


 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
There's a few loyalty missions you should do first. I think they are Tali's, Samara's and Zaeed's. If you wait to long the bonus paragon/renegade points you've acquired through ME1 will "decay" and you won't get all the options.


what option do you miss? Tali's is like the second to last one I do and I never had an issue

but seriously, just do all the loyalty missions. They are all easy to complete. It doesnt even matter how you complete Legions if you are a good paragon because both ways are worth the same amount of points


I dont play Renegade, Im mostly paragon but I simply cant accept the Krogans being cured. They are monsters


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/17 21:20:42


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


 Galdos wrote:
 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
There's a few loyalty missions you should do first. I think they are Tali's, Samara's and Zaeed's. If you wait to long the bonus paragon/renegade points you've acquired through ME1 will "decay" and you won't get all the options.


what option do you miss? Tali's is like the second to last one I do and I never had an issue

but seriously, just do all the loyalty missions. They are all easy to complete. It doesnt even matter how you complete Legions if you are a good paragon because both ways are worth the same amount of points


I dont play Renegade, Im mostly paragon but I simply cant accept the Krogans being cured. They are monsters


Ya, actually I think hers is ok, its the ones where your squadmates make you choose between them.

Spoiler:
Like Jack and Miranda. There's another showdown like that iirc.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/17 23:40:02


Post by: Galdos


Miranda and Jack and Legion and Tali both have confrontations once you complete both their loyalty missions.

If you have a high enough paragon/renegade score you can keep both of their loyalties, otherwise you will have to choose.

Moridin and Grunt was suppose to have one also but it was cut.


I would recomend the opposite, I save Tali and Legion for the very end because I know they require a high score to do it. Save it last and there wont be a problem. That confrontation between Tali and Legion is literally the last thing I do before I start the suicide mission.



Oh here is a big one. Do not get the Reaper IFF until you have done EVERYTHING ELSE. Once you start the mission the rest of the game is on a hidden timer so save that last


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/17 23:49:58


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Yes, but counterintuitively your paragon points don't "build up" as you progress thoughout the game especially if you import an ME1 save. The taper down unless you make 100% paragon or renegade decisions. Basically the paragon/renegade rpg system was broken in ME2. There's wikis that explain this better than me.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/18 00:52:50


Post by: Galdos


 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Yes, but counterintuitively your paragon points don't "build up" as you progress thoughout the game especially if you import an ME1 save. The taper down unless you make 100% paragon or renegade decisions. Basically the paragon/renegade rpg system was broken in ME2. There's wikis that explain this better than me.


Wait what? Ive never had an issue with any Paragon decision and I had a lot of Renegade points also (by end game maybe 25-30%)

This is weird


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/18 00:56:28


Post by: Melissia


Yeah, I didn't have that probelm and I had a few renegade interrupts along with mine...


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/18 02:08:52


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


I don't want to get into the whole thing especially if you didn't have any problems anyway. But basically you start the game at 100% paragon and Renegade points (unless you imported a save then it's like 2000%) and work you way down from there. For example, on your first choice you are given a red, blue and neutral option. If you pick blue you will now be 1/1 blue and 0/1 red. So you are effectively 100% blue at that point and 0% red. Certain conversion options are based on your percentage. A really high one is usually 75%. The denominator increase for every choice you make. The red and blue bars filling up in your character screen are actually meaningless. It's just a visual thing.
However like I said before you get bonus points for your work in ME1. So you can actually start out at like 40/1.
Trust me, I involuntarily had to test this out and redo my game a few times to get the best ending in ME2.
Anyway, if you didn't have any problems and everyone lived in your ME2 game you're doing it right and just do that again.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/18 02:28:33


Post by: Galdos


 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I don't want to get into the whole thing especially if you didn't have any problems anyway. But basically you start the game at 100% paragon and Renegade points (unless you imported a save then it's like 2000%) and work you way down from there. For example, on your first choice you are given a red, blue and neutral option. If you pick blue you will now be 1/1 blue and 0/1 red. So you are effectively 100% blue at that point and 0% red. Certain conversion options are based on your percentage. A really high one is usually 75%. The denominator increase for every choice you make. The red and blue bars filling up in your character screen are actually meaningless. It's just a visual thing.
However like I said before you get bonus points for your work in ME1. So you can actually start out at like 40/1.
Trust me, I involuntarily had to test this out and redo my game a few times to get the best ending in ME2.
Anyway, if you didn't have any problems and everyone lived in your ME2 game you're doing it right and just do that again.


Thats interesting.

Ya Im importing my game so maybe thats the difference.

Im glad I hadnt experienced the broken situation.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/18 03:06:59


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Maybe "broken" isn't the right word but it has flaws. Especially, when you're trying to make a "perfect run". Not everyone is concerned about that.

I do think it discourages role playing though. For example, neutral option is always a bad choice because it increases the denominator but neither numerator but y'know ...... sometimes I'm neutral on stuff.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/18 06:52:29


Post by: warboss


A bit too much effort for me personally. I just did my first play through on all 3 with my normal strongly good leaning character (with the occasional renegade choice... that damn krogan preacher above the propane tank was just too much to pass up!) and my second playthrough with the character that I describe as my blonde femshep space nazi. She's not necessarily evil but she will always choose the choice that just moderately benefits humanity even if it completely screws over some innocent alien race. That gave me enough variety throughout 99% of the trilogy (excluding of course the otherwise identical but color coded original ending).


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/18 20:59:15


Post by: warboss


New N7 weekend event starting today that flies in the face of common sense. Instead of booting cheap gamers with low levels and no gear from gold games, I'm searching them out since the goal this week is to get a revive medal for the commendation pack. Viva la crappy xbox playerbase!


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/18 22:05:40


Post by: Kanluwen


It's 5 revives for a First Aid medal.

Do it with a friend, you can get it done in a single wave if you take turns dying even on Bronze.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/26 03:26:00


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 Kanluwen wrote:
Do we have anyone (besides Chemical Cutthroat and myself) still playing MP on Mass Effect 3 for the 360?


I used to be on it daily trying to earn credits to unlock Premium Spectre packs. Sadly BioWare's constant tinkering with weapons, powers, characters and maps sort of put me off it. It just felt like beta testing for the next Mass Effect game.

The ending didn't help either


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/29 20:26:25


Post by: warboss






New pics from upcoming DLC posted on Bioware employee twitter accounts. The krogan seems to be reusing the old blood pack boss model from ME2 and from the multiplayer side as the map skyline indicates the Thessia map whereas the promenade pic seems to be single player (with tiny Wrex and Shepard in the pic). Que the inevitable MC Hammer music for the krogan!


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/29 20:54:19


Post by: Kanluwen


The Krogan is for SP, not MP.

Look at the skyline, the buildings are only being hit by one sun while Thessia has a binary solar system.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/29 21:13:25


Post by: Galdos


What if I had Ashley shoot him like a dog in ME1?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/29 21:15:36


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


I wonder what it will be about. The first two DLCs dealt with the unresolved plotlines so they can go wherever they like now.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/29 21:35:09


Post by: warboss


 Kanluwen wrote:
The Krogan is for SP, not MP.

Look at the skyline, the buildings are only being hit by one sun while Thessia has a binary solar system.


Load up the map and get back to me on that again. The background buildings, skyline, and sky match the goddess map. I'm not sure what the round flowerpots are but there us nothing about that picture that excludes multiplayer.



Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/29 23:15:55


Post by: Compel


Maybe it's Illium?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/30 00:12:03


Post by: Kanluwen


 warboss wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
The Krogan is for SP, not MP.

Look at the skyline, the buildings are only being hit by one sun while Thessia has a binary solar system.


Load up the map and get back to me on that again. The background buildings, skyline, and sky match the goddess map. I'm not sure what the round flowerpots are but there us nothing about that picture that excludes multiplayer.

Other than the fact that the assumption they would not reuse a skyline asset is flawed.

Look at "N7: Cerberus Fighter Base" and "Firebase: White". Notice the mountain range?
That's on Noveria, right?

Now go play "Arrae: Ex-Cerberus Scientists" and look at the mountain range in the distance. The same asset is reused in both cases for planets on the opposite sides of the galaxy.

And for the record? Load up "Firebase: Rio" and look at the sky. The buildings are missing, but it's the same sky.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/01/30 00:38:54


Post by: warboss


And yet none of that excludes the pic from being multiplayer yet you simple declared it was so. You also made it a point to say that the single sun excludes it from being on Thessia yet I showed you a pic of the existing map that only has a single sun in that direction. Could it be single player? Sure, bioware resuses assets from one game mode to the next and there is nothing wrong with it. But there is nothing you've posted that in any way excludes MP.


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 Compel wrote:
Maybe it's Illium?


It's possible as another asari world would have similar architecture. I think the first pic most points to MP on thessia but there is plenty of room for other interpretations. I'd frankly love to see a Krogan Engineer using the old blood pack armor and have been advocating for it since the first few months. I had hoped it would be part of a merc themed MP DLC to go along with the release of the SP Omega one but that obviously didn't happen.



Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 17:20:21


Post by: warboss


Last two ME3 DLCs announced!

http://blog.bioware.com/2013/02/21/mass-effect-3-citadel-reckoning-dlc-announced/

Looks like the free multiplayer update will release on Feb 26th whereas the $15 single player part will be out on March 5th.

Kan, you may want to pay special attention to the character pictured for multiplayer as well as specifically mentioned in the text.



Krogan Mercenary Carpenter from Clan Ikea, here I come! Graal nail gun and Biotic Hammer FTW!


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 17:27:06


Post by: Kanluwen


And you may want to pay attention to the fact that every character listed was some kind of fanwankery.

Oh, and the fact that "Assault Rifle Omni-Blade" was listed--and the blogpost is now gone.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 17:39:34


Post by: warboss


 Kanluwen wrote:
And you may want to pay attention to the fact that every character listed was some kind of fanwankery.


Um... so? Are you really that bitter that you'd be unhappy about fans getting some classes that have been consistently asked for since the beta in the final MP update? They've done a good enough job in the vast majority of cases of keeping things balanced so I'm not afraid if people get the models and playstyles that they want.



Whoa... is that a playable geth prime?? It definitely looks tall enough relative to the husk!


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 17:47:27


Post by: Kanluwen


So where are the Salarian Sentinel and Soldier?



That, at the very least, would have been something better to be announced.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 17:54:49


Post by: warboss


No idea but I do hope that a salarian soldier (in honor of Kirahe) makes it in as the salarians need some love. That being said, we don't know what race one of the named classes they've mentioned actually is nor have they actually mentioned all the classes in this initial press release.



Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2046/04/21 18:05:34


Post by: Kanluwen


 warboss wrote:
No idea but I do hope that a salarian soldier (in honor of Kirahe) makes it in as the salarians need some love. That being said, we don't know what race one of the named classes they've mentioned actually is nor have they actually mentioned all the classes in this initial press release.

Let me put it like this.
Remember how BioWare was having all those leaks of MP content waaaaay in advance?
There was speculation that it was a significant other of a dev--and now the only MP dev that I'm aware of who is married just announced his retirement.
There was also a statement awhile back that BioWare was hunting the source of the leak--and right after that, the same "source" who leaked the rest of the MP DLCs announced this "Reckoning" bit.

There's a reason I'm so skeptical of this. Every character/class listed has been a straight copy and paste of something posted by individuals on the BSN.
BioWare has not ever done that before--with good reason, because of potential legal shenanigans.
Add to it that the renders look so unpolished and incomplete.
I mean this quite seriously--look at the Geth Prime. Notice how the Omni Tool is clipping through his arm and the ridiculously overscaled Avenger he's carrying.

Then compare that to the screenshot from the single player DLC that I posted.

I have a very sneaking suspicion that this announcement might be a cover for the "and more" to be quite a bit of characters people would not expect.
Also, the "Talon mercenary" listed is in the second screenshot with the "Geth Primes". It's a second female Turian.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 18:06:38


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Any idea what the single player is about?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 18:09:16


Post by: Kanluwen


 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Any idea what the single player is about?

All good things must come to an end, and that includes the Commander Shepard trilogy. However, just because it is coming to an end, that doesn't mean we can't go out with a bang. Introducing the final Mass Effect 3 single-player DLC: Citadel!

When a sinister conspiracy targets Commander Shepard, you and your team must uncover the truth, through battles and intrigue that range from the glamour of the Citadel’s Wards to the top-secret Council Archives. Uncover the truth and fight alongside your squad – as well as the cast from the original Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2.

When the adventure is over, reconnect with your favorite characters from the Mass Effect Trilogy, try your luck at the Citadel’s Silver Coast Casino, blow off steam in the Armax Combat Arena, or explore and furnish Shepard’s own living quarters on the Citadel. With unique content and cinematics featuring your friends and romance interests in the Mass Effect trilogy, Mass Effect 3: Citadel offers one final chance to see the characters you have known for years and rekindle romances.

Mass Effect 3: Citadel will release worldwide on March 5th on Xbox 360, PC and PS3 (on March 6th on PS3 in Europe).


Bear in mind, it will cost 1200 Microsoft Points and require two separate downloads as it is 4 gigs. You pay to get Part I, but not Part II. Part II is available to download for free--but will not work without Part I.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 18:16:34


Post by: warboss


 Kanluwen wrote:

Let me put it like this.
Remember how BioWare was having all those leaks of MP content waaaaay in advance?
There was speculation that it was a significant other of a dev--and now the only MP dev that I'm aware of who is married just announced his retirement.
There was also a statement awhile back that BioWare was hunting the source of the leak--and right after that, the same "source" who leaked the rest of the MP DLCs announced this "Reckoning" bit.

There's a reason I'm so skeptical of this. Every character/class listed has been a straight copy and paste of something posted by individuals on the BSN.
BioWare has not ever done that before--with good reason, because of potential legal shenanigans.


I'm really not sure where you're trying to go with this conspiracy theory in relation to the MP dlc. Not trying to be insulting but it's more mysterious than the indoctrination theory stuff that was floating around last march.


 Kanluwen wrote:

Add to it that the renders look so unpolished and incomplete.
I mean this quite seriously--look at the Geth Prime. Notice how the Omni Tool is clipping through his arm and the ridiculously overscaled Avenger he's carrying.

Then compare that to the screenshot from the single player DLC that I posted.

I have a very sneaking suspicion that this announcement might be a cover for the "and more" to be quite a bit of characters people would not expect.
Also, the "Talon mercenary" listed is in the second screenshot with the "Geth Primes". It's a second female Turian.


How do you know that the talon merc is the female turian as opposed to it being the female turian specifically mentioned? The talons had plenty of different races in the single player DLC including salarians. I've only seen the one pic of the MP female turian; is there a second one showing a different model that you're using as a basis for that leap of judgement? As for the clipping, that's been common throughout the MP. The krogans are notorious for having their arms and shoulders and weapons clipping through various parts of their body since the very beginning. It simply hasn't been a priority for them to fix that stuff.


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 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Any idea what the single player is about?


It's the Sims Mass Effect! Kan has already posted the relevant info but I do find it a bit humorous that they're giving us a citadel home decorating sim function in addition to the traditional plot.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 18:31:15


Post by: Kanluwen


 warboss wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:

Let me put it like this.
Remember how BioWare was having all those leaks of MP content waaaaay in advance?
There was speculation that it was a significant other of a dev--and now the only MP dev that I'm aware of who is married just announced his retirement.
There was also a statement awhile back that BioWare was hunting the source of the leak--and right after that, the same "source" who leaked the rest of the MP DLCs announced this "Reckoning" bit.

There's a reason I'm so skeptical of this. Every character/class listed has been a straight copy and paste of something posted by individuals on the BSN.
BioWare has not ever done that before--with good reason, because of potential legal shenanigans.


I'm really not sure where you're trying to go with this conspiracy theory in relation to the MP dlc. Not trying to be insulting but it's more mysterious than the indoctrination theory stuff that was floating around last march.

There's a rather large difference between what I'm saying and "indoctrination theory".

Indoctrination theory was based upon huge leaps of logic from brief flashes on the screen.
What I'm saying is that I'm skeptical of this particular DLC given the circumstances. BioWare had no less than three of their DLCs entirely spoiled by an individual who thought they were "helping the community". Instead all they did was stir up a "gimme gimme gimme" mentality where people were annoyed at choices being made for DLC that was not even scheduled to be out for a month or more.


 Kanluwen wrote:

Add to it that the renders look so unpolished and incomplete.
I mean this quite seriously--look at the Geth Prime. Notice how the Omni Tool is clipping through his arm and the ridiculously overscaled Avenger he's carrying.

Then compare that to the screenshot from the single player DLC that I posted.

I have a very sneaking suspicion that this announcement might be a cover for the "and more" to be quite a bit of characters people would not expect.
Also, the "Talon mercenary" listed is in the second screenshot with the "Geth Primes". It's a second female Turian.


How do you know that the talon merc is the female turian as opposed to it being the female turian specifically mentioned?

Oh please, do you really think if a female Turian was coming out they would release "just one"?
The talons had plenty of different races in the single player DLC including salarians. I've only seen the one pic of the MP female turian; is there a second one showing a different model that you're using as a basis for that leap of judgement?

Do you think if new Salarians were coming they would not have put them into the brief instead of the Sexbot?
As for the clipping, that's been common throughout the MP. The krogans are notorious for having their arms and shoulders and weapons clipping through various parts of their body since the very beginning. It simply hasn't been a priority for them to fix that stuff.

Probably because it's not as common as you think. With the Krogan it takes certain circumstances for such things to happen. It's not something that happens every single time without fail--and what's more, there were no low resolution promotional pictures released of a Krogan with stuff clipping through.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 18:50:08


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Sounds intereting. Too bad it's the final DLC. Wonder how that working with the ME1 and ME2 thing is going to work?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 19:00:21


Post by: Dreadclaw69


I wish I could get excited about this DLC, maybe it'll tie up some loose plot ends. After the ending this DLC feels tacked on to me. Every other DLC has been a day 1 purchase but I might just wait until this goes on sale.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 19:01:00


Post by: Kanluwen


It's just bringing the characters over. Likely they'll be NPCs you can interact with during the course of the mission or temporary squadmates ala Aria and Nyreen.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
I wish I could get excited about this DLC, maybe it'll tie up some loose plot ends. After the ending this DLC feels tacked on to me. Every other DLC has been a day 1 purchase but I might just wait until this goes on sale.

If even a quarter of what I've heard regarding this DLC is true, you'll want it day 1.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 19:34:35


Post by: Galdos


When a sinister conspiracy targets Commander Shepard, you and your team must uncover the truth, through battles and intrigue that range from the glamour of the Citadel’s Wards to the top-secret Council Archives. Uncover the truth and fight alongside your squad – as well as the cast from the original Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2, including Urdnot Wrex!


What if I [Ashley] killed Wrex? Seriously I hated Wrex (I hate Krogans, Grunt is the only one I like and thats just because of how he acted in ME3)


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 21:03:29


Post by: warboss


 Galdos wrote:
When a sinister conspiracy targets Commander Shepard, you and your team must uncover the truth, through battles and intrigue that range from the glamour of the Citadel’s Wards to the top-secret Council Archives. Uncover the truth and fight alongside your squad – as well as the cast from the original Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2, including Urdnot Wrex!


What if I [Ashley] killed Wrex? Seriously I hated Wrex (I hate Krogans, Grunt is the only one I like and thats just because of how he acted in ME3)


I'm guessing that the krogans you apparently will see sitting on your couch will depend on how you handled the krogan storyline in ME3. If you saved the krogans (or pretended to), I'm guessing that you'll see Grunt sitting there but I doubt you'll see Wreav seeing as how he doesn't really like you regardless of your choices. If you openly screwed over the space turtles, you'll likely see none of them.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/21 21:24:23


Post by: warboss


 Kanluwen wrote:
 warboss wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:

Let me put it like this.
Remember how BioWare was having all those leaks of MP content waaaaay in advance?
There was speculation that it was a significant other of a dev--and now the only MP dev that I'm aware of who is married just announced his retirement.
There was also a statement awhile back that BioWare was hunting the source of the leak--and right after that, the same "source" who leaked the rest of the MP DLCs announced this "Reckoning" bit.

There's a reason I'm so skeptical of this. Every character/class listed has been a straight copy and paste of something posted by individuals on the BSN.
BioWare has not ever done that before--with good reason, because of potential legal shenanigans.


I'm really not sure where you're trying to go with this conspiracy theory in relation to the MP dlc. Not trying to be insulting but it's more mysterious than the indoctrination theory stuff that was floating around last march.

There's a rather large difference between what I'm saying and "indoctrination theory".

Indoctrination theory was based upon huge leaps of logic from brief flashes on the screen.
What I'm saying is that I'm skeptical of this particular DLC given the circumstances. BioWare had no less than three of their DLCs entirely spoiled by an individual who thought they were "helping the community". Instead all they did was stir up a "gimme gimme gimme" mentality where people were annoyed at choices being made for DLC that was not even scheduled to be out for a month or more.



That's one serious tinfoil hat conspiracy there. You don't think the more logical reason would be that an employee who was brought on under contract for a limited time to work specifically on ME3 is being let go because that contract length has now run its course which coincides with the announcement and release of the last work ever being done on the project that he was hired on for? There is even less to base your idea on that the indoctrination theory.




Also, the "Talon mercenary" listed is in the second screenshot with the "Geth Primes". It's a second female Turian.


How do you know that the talon merc is the female turian as opposed to it being the female turian specifically mentioned?

Oh please, do you really think if a female Turian was coming out they would release "just one"?


So in other words you're simply guessing that the only announced female turian isn't the only one in the pictures released? Wow.. again... some serious cries of zebra upon hearing hoofbeats when you've got a horse standing in front of you.


As for the clipping, that's been common throughout the MP. The krogans are notorious for having their arms and shoulders and weapons clipping through various parts of their body since the very beginning. It simply hasn't been a priority for them to fix that stuff.

Probably because it's not as common as you think. With the Krogan it takes certain circumstances for such things to happen. It's not something that happens every single time without fail--and what's more, there were no low resolution promotional pictures released of a Krogan with stuff clipping through.


Sorry but it's exactly as common as I think as I'm not guessing. I've modded most of the krogan files in the original ME3 game as a hobby including messing with the animations and the krogans "certain circumstances" include EVERY cover position, many standing positions with large weapons, and most weapon swap animations. They've generally got a single animation for each move and it generally doesn't change for the different races (the Krogan melee's being the obvious exception). Clipping simply isn't a high priority issue and I wouldn't have noticed the tons of instances of it (except for the cover animation since that is facing you) if I hadn't been mucking around in the files. As for the "low poly" multiplayer krogans, you'd apparently be surprised at how low poly certain characters really are compared to Shepard and other main single player ones. If you open up the models in the correct program, they're surprisingly jagged compared with the 3d models you see being posted here for various kickstarter programs. The textures they add *really* do make the difference.



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Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/25 19:23:03


Post by: kenshin620


Video of Reckoning

THis is a new video right? Just uploaded today




Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/25 20:59:51


Post by: Kanluwen


Yep. That's the uninspiring, bland MP DLC coming out tomorrow.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/25 22:44:36


Post by: warboss


Sigh... geth primes and krogan warlords with unique mechanics are bland and uninspired?... wow. This is a goodbye fan service DLC that I'm glad they're putting out. I get the krogan I always wanted and people get a Prothean of sorts as well and a female turian to boot. Btw, it does look like the obvious/logical assumption about the turian female was true. The only negative thing I can say about this DLC is that they ignored the salarians yet again.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/26 00:50:23


Post by: Kanluwen


This is their last DLC.

Go back and look at everything for this package. It's reskins and imports. It's pathetic for a last DLC.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/26 00:59:48


Post by: Compel


It seems perfectly fine to me for a last *free* dlc.

Heck, some other games I can think of would just maybe see free dlc as giving a single character a new helmet...

Or, a new terrible looking reskin.

A bunch of new characters, a new mix of abilities to use. Seems not bad for something free.

I'm guessing no new maps too?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/26 01:06:31


Post by: Kanluwen


No new maps.
Only two new guns (the M-11 Suppressor and the M7 Lancer) among the "seven new weapons!". Four of them (Venom, Lancer, Spitfire, and Blood Pack Punisher) are Ultra Rares.
Even the "new characters" aren't.
The Alliance Infiltration Unit is not even a reskin. It's the exact model you get from the Alternate Appearance Pack for EDI.
The Talon is a reskin of Zaeed from ME2.
Juggernaut is a resize of the Prime with the antennae removed.
List goes on.

But really. They cannot have paid MP DLC. They have explained before that they cannot do that without fracturing the playerbase to an unacceptable amount.


At the very least, we are going to get a "Gift Pack" when you have the DLC installed.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/26 04:27:18


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Other companies do it. They charge $15 for 3 maps.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/26 04:54:56


Post by: Kanluwen


Other companies have a matchmaking framework in place which can support doing such things.

BioWare does not have that in this iteration of Mass Effect 3. Add to it that Microsoft was a big proponent for the free multiplayer aspect of Mass Effect 3 and you have two very big reasons why the free DLC aspect exists.

But remember, download the Reckoning DLC tomorrow and go to the in-game store. There is a "Gift Pack" in there as a freebie from the developers, as an early celebration of the game's one year anniversary. The devs are not saying what is in the Gift Pack, but one hinted that it does at least contain an Ultra Rare of some kind.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/26 05:03:06


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Woo Hoo! Free stuff!


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/26 13:42:07


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 Kanluwen wrote:
This is their last DLC.

Go back and look at everything for this package. It's reskins and imports. It's pathetic for a last DLC.

Well when you use your paying customers as glorified beta testers for your next game you do have to throw them a bone every once in a while.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/26 19:28:18


Post by: Galdos


Im honestly confused on what the problem is


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/28 02:38:00


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Well my free thingamabob was a Talon Mercenary. Kanluwen tried his best to convince me it's not so bad but well....normally I'd say something like "It's better than a kick in the nuts" but....ya, it's pretty much the same as that.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/28 02:49:36


Post by: Kanluwen


I did show you that he can be pretty good though, aye?

I've got some more testing to do with him, as I think his health+shield strength might be bugged.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/28 03:22:01


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Ya...you also showed me a guy vaporizing people by clenching his fist at them...


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/28 03:46:56


Post by: Kanluwen


The Juggernaut is fun...

In terms of this DLC, I'm enjoying the more tactical play of the Talon and the tankiness of the Juggernaut.
Some experimenting has made me a fan of the Krogan Warlord, and I knew I would enjoy the Collector a bit from the start.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/02/28 06:41:20


Post by: warboss


If you spec the Krogan right, he can be a blast. Just be careful of the instakillers that you can't light-melee-combo to death in one pass (so basically Banshees and Atlas Mechs.. brutes depending on the build but they can be killed with the right combo of gear and powers). They seem to be literally be drawn to krogans even when you're not attacking them and others are.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/01 19:07:35


Post by: Kanluwen


To put this bluntly:

The Geth Spitfire?
It's a watergun unless you're fighting the Geth. And if you're playing on the 360...turn off vibration.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/01 20:36:46


Post by: Melissia


I've been in a bit of a rut and not wanting to play shooters for a while, and finally tried to break out of it by playing ME again (I still need to get through it and ME2 so I can have a coherent character for ME3, I'm weird I know), and the fething thing keeps crashing on run. I'm verifying local game cache right now.

FML.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/02 14:44:30


Post by: johnscott10


Lol your not weird for wanting a coherent character for the entire series. I want to do the same thing aswell just really can't be bothered atm.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/04 18:33:28


Post by: Kanluwen




I think my favorite line from the trailer has to be:
"The last guy who trashtalked me was a few kilometers taller than you are."


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/04 18:51:17


Post by: Compel


It appears The Imperium is sending Stormtroopers to take Shepard in...

They shoulda sent Astartes by the looks of it.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/04 18:55:39


Post by: kenshin620


For some reason this reminds me of the Expendables

I am COMPLETELY FINE WITH THIS

Cheesy as heck, but hey its space terrorists vs space badasses! (wait what about the Reaper War? HEY WE'RE ON VACATION OK! SCREW THE WAR!)


Too bad SOMEONE (cough cough The Prothean) doesnt look present/impactful on this. Silly DLC characters.........


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/04 19:58:36


Post by: warboss


 Compel wrote:
It appears The Imperium is sending Stormtroopers to take Shepard in...

They shoulda sent Astartes by the looks of it.


Isn't that always the case though?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/04 20:58:25


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


It's a little weird. I know my Shepard didn't take any time off during the war for shore leave. Tens of thousands of people were dying every hour on Earth. I felt like Shepard wasn't even taking time to sleep during ME3.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/04 21:01:55


Post by: kenshin620


 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I felt like Shepard wasn't even taking time to sleep during ME3.


I dont think he wanted to with those stupid dreams he kept getting


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/04 21:03:07


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


 kenshin620 wrote:
 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I felt like Shepard wasn't even taking time to sleep during ME3.


I dont think he wanted to with those stupid dreams he kept getting


Indeed.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/04 21:44:31


Post by: Melissia


I doubt Shepard wanted to sleep as well.

It wasn't good for her sanity.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/04 23:42:18


Post by: warboss


 Melissia wrote:
I doubt Shepard wanted to sleep as well.

It wasn't good for her sanity.


I dunno. My Shepard seemed to enjoy sleeping through the night before each big finale mission but that might be due more to the company during those particular evenings. Those friends are all supposedly back for this DLC...


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/05 18:41:12


Post by: Melissia


Playing through as a Sentinel. I forgot how awesome Mass Effect was. As far as trying to force myself to start to play shooters again, this is a pretty great choice


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/05 20:46:36


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Ya, you can play as a character that isn't so shooty if you've got shooter fatigue.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/06 04:54:33


Post by: Galdos


Anyone beat the new DLC? Im interested if its good or not.

Im also confused as hell on what will happen if Wrex is dead for me. I do NOT want Wreav (personally I dont even want Wrex's name on my memorial wall, who was the ass hat who put that up?)


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/06 05:02:51


Post by: Kanluwen


I'm keeping myself from buying it, as I have a hunch that we will likely see a disc release for the 360 considering the size/awkwardness of the DLC.

From my understanding though, it's on par with "Lair of the Shadow Broker" and "Leviathan".


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/06 05:26:01


Post by: AtariAssasin


I was wondering about this myself. It looks pretty cool, and the trailer tugs at my nostalgia strings... but apparently it's 4g for the download or something? According to Kotaku you need to download 2 seperate components at 2 g each.

Hell, my 360 is the old 10g. Between Mass Effect and Halo 4 thats the majority of my hard drive.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/06 20:10:43


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


I'm downloading it. I'll post my thoughts in it when I'm done. Hopefully it's a long one at 4 gigs


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/06 20:23:54


Post by: Dreadclaw69


I downloaded it yesterday but haven't played it yet, I'm still engrossed with Dragon Age: Origins


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/06 20:55:55


Post by: Compel


Hmm, I'm finding the single player of citadel slightly bugged.

Though you can change weapons, the actual graphics to let you do it normally are missing, so you need to use the arrow keys.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/06 21:14:01


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 Compel wrote:
Hmm, I'm finding the single player of citadel slightly bugged.

Though you can change weapons, the actual graphics to let you do it normally are missing, so you need to use the arrow keys.

What platform, PC?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/06 21:22:43


Post by: Compel


Yeah, rebooted a couple of times and it fixed itself. I guess it's to do with going to the weapons screen before you do missions where you actually get other weapons


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/07 20:38:32


Post by: Melissia


Ah, now I remember why I liked ME2 more than ME1.

The fething elevator bug.

Ah well. I got through Noveria anyway, about to get to Virmire.

So...
Spoiler:
I understand that there's a way to save the Salarian, Major Kirrahe, and that he has an impact on ME3-- how do you save him?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/07 20:46:33


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 Melissia wrote:
Ah, now I remember why I liked ME2 more than ME1.

The fething elevator bug.

Ah well. I got through Noveria anyway, about to get to Virmire.


Spoiler:
You'll have side missions and the option to disable a security system - do those. More details here


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/08 02:40:55


Post by: Galdos


 Melissia wrote:
Ah, now I remember why I liked ME2 more than ME1.

The fething elevator bug.

Ah well. I got through Noveria anyway, about to get to Virmire.

So...
Spoiler:
I understand that there's a way to save the Salarian, Major Kirrahe, and that he has an impact on ME3-- how do you save him?


Also, its only a POTENTIAL for him to play a big role in ME3. Other decisions effect if he simply does a one liner or if he gives a full speech or if he is a badass.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/08 02:44:06


Post by: Amaya


 Melissia wrote:
Ah, now I remember why I liked ME2 more than ME1.

The fething elevator bug.

Ah well. I got through Noveria anyway, about to get to Virmire.

So...
Spoiler:
I understand that there's a way to save the Salarian, Major Kirrahe, and that he has an impact on ME3-- how do you save him?


If you are playing on PC you can just use the save game editor to make the outcome be what you want if you goof anything up.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/08 02:53:53


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Now, that's just cheating...


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/08 02:57:41


Post by: Amaya


Why does that matter?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/08 14:19:06


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 Amaya wrote:
Why does that matter?

Maybe some people prefer to play the game to experience things first hand and to immerse themselves in that world for a while, spending five minutes in a save editor removes that element.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/08 14:24:33


Post by: Amaya


Or maybe you would like to play the game naturally instead of following a rigid path for an optimal ending?

And why should someone "cheating" in a single player game matter to anyone else?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/08 14:33:35


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 Amaya wrote:
Or maybe you would like to play the game naturally instead of following a rigid path for an optimal ending?

Me in particular, or the person asking for help? I'm asking because I don't recall advising someone to follow a rigid path of any sort of ending. Someone had a query and I helped. How is suggesting that someone use a save editor playing "the game naturally"?

 Amaya wrote:
And why should someone "cheating" in a single player game matter to anyone else?

I'm not sure how you managed to get that from my comment that "some people prefer to play the game to experience things first hand and to immerse themselves in that world for a while".


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/08 14:43:43


Post by: Amaya


What exactly was the point of your post? Was it simply to be a contrarian?

Because being annoyed that someone uses a save game editor is unnecessary interference and opinionating over an individual's decisions in a single player game.

ME requires you to make certain choices for a "perfect ending." Making some of those choices may result in decisions that don't align with your character's personality or moral code. In some cases possible choices are severely limited by technology. The save game editor allows you to get the ending you want without making OOC in game choices simply for the sake of a perfect ending.



Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/08 15:21:51


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 Amaya wrote:
What exactly was the point of your post? Was it simply to be a contrarian?

I could ask you the very same question but I think that the thread would just end up derailed

 Amaya wrote:
Because being annoyed that someone uses a save game editor is unnecessary interference and opinionating over an individual's decisions in a single player game.

I'm not annoyed. In fact I don't care. What I said was that "some people", it was a general statement. Not "I". Not "the game must only be played this way". I'm not certain how you got "unnecessary interference and opinionating" out of that

 Amaya wrote:
ME requires you to make certain choices for a "perfect ending." Making some of those choices may result in decisions that don't align with your character's personality or moral code. In some cases possible choices are severely limited by technology. The save game editor allows you to get the ending you want without making OOC in game choices simply for the sake of a perfect ending.

The you don't have to choose them if you don't want to, you are not obliged to play the game in a particular manner. That is why there are multiple endings. My point is why bother to play the game if you just use a gamesave?


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/08 16:25:19


Post by: Amaya


Again, why do you care how someone else choose to play the game?

It's a complete nonissue, but apparently it really bothers you.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/08 16:53:40


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 Amaya wrote:
Again, why do you care how someone else choose to play the game?
It's a complete nonissue, but apparently it really bothers you.

You may have missed this so I'll repeat it,
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
I'm not annoyed. In fact I don't care

What I am curious about was your misrepresentation of my words and trying to subscribe arguments to me that I haven't made.


Mass Effect 3 Discussion thread! @ 2013/03/08 17:16:19


Post by: Manchu


If someone actually wants to discuss this game, feel free to start a new thread.