well it depends on how they fan and how they fit back on to the model. If they are going to be separate pieces then there needs to be no overlapping elements which it looks from the concept as if there is a flange that stretches across the arm which is going to be problematic at least.

If they do not fan out too drastically it won;t be as much of a problem. I would direct the modeler ( I am assuming this will be done digitally ) to beef up the blades just a touch to make sure they fill consistently. If they are casting these in resin then the blades might cause the molds to wear out faster given the amount of flex and drag they create in de-molding. But there again that all depends on how the molds are cut and what the final composition of the pieces of the model are.

It appears as if the arms are going to be separate pieces from the torso being that there are no seams to hide the joins on the arms. That in and of itself might be problematic as well but probably much less so. the horns will probably also need to be separate pieces as well given the ay they curve around the head.

Our sculptor is a seasoned professional when it comes to breakdown of models for casting and he also knows what elements of the sculpt need to be more sympathetically done to establish an easily cast model. I have lots of faith in him. The concepts are only a flavour of what the final model will be, although we do try and keep as close to the original as possible. I have some more sculpts to show you against the concept art that was shown previously.
















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and of course the original parts...

Well the models look great. Who is the modeler?

Victor Hugo... he is a Brazilian sculptor.

Soooo...

How does one acquire that limited edition helm?

The name does sound familiar. Who else has he worked for? Didn't he do something for Reaper?

One would simply purchase it from the addon store. It's the only way that people who did not pledge last time can get it. It is only £3.

I should have the render tomorrow.


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He did some Warzone stuff I think

I think it's free if you backed the prior campaign (although maybe just one copy, but sure what happens if you buy two bugbears) but you will be able to add it on even if you didn't back the previous one. That way no one gets left out and it's a sweet bit that I think a lot of folks will want.

Edit: Ninja'ed! Another question is would it be included in the EB 4-pack pledges?

Ah that might be where I have heard the name.

If you pledged last time you get the head free. If you did not it costs £3 and you cannot pick it as part of a standard purchase. If you want it then it will be £3. It's limited edition and I feel I owe it to the original backers!

The loyalty head is cool and all, but that Tusked head is way cooler.

Oh, I had it backwards! So, the tusked helm is available just as a normal selection. But have we seen the render of the loyalty helm? I think the other one shown further up this page is just the "roaring head". The loyalty helm art is in the top right corner of this spoilered pic:

I should have the loyalty helm renders today or tomorrow and I know he is working on the golem parts too.

 Kaine Larson wrote:
Let's be the friend if all humanoid animal hybrids!!!

Time for some sexy furries!

This is the Bugbear Ironshield Loyalty Helm and a render showing a set of new arms for the Flesh Golem

I can also now give you guys a launch date for the new Kickstarter. We will be launching at 9pm on the 29th which is basically next Wednesday.

Tell your friends!!!

October 29th is now marked on my calendar

Flesh golem looks suitably creepy, and maybe I'm imagining it but the entrails look slightly improved! If that arm is available as a separate bit, I might buy it for use with some other things even though I'm not planning on making any of my selections flesh golems.

The loyalty helm front looks very cool, although I'm not a big fan of the crest. That will be easy to clip off, though, in which case this may actually be the one I end up using! I feel a bit spoiled for choice on the heads, I'll be honest

The reason Victor Hugo may sound familiar to people is, aside from doing a bit of sculpting, he is also a French writer, known for, among others, Les Miserables.

He is a man of considerable talent and venerable age.

Not to mention a prodigious gut-plate!

Is it just me, or do the links on that chainmail on the golem look a bit too large for something that's going to be 28mm, let alone 55mm?

...sci fi offerings?

Like we wouldn't notice that little nugget?

I know some on Dakka had expressed interest in using those goblins as xenos. Might your sci fi offerings have something to do with that?

Looking forward to Wednesday!

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
...sci fi offerings?

Like we wouldn't notice that little nugget?

I know some on Dakka had expressed interest in using those goblins as xenos. Might your sci fi offerings have something to do with that?

Whatchu talkin' bout, tamburlaine?

I haven't seen any official mutterings about sci fi offerings here recently.

I do think it might be wise to sell a bits pack of flesh golem arms, though. I have no use for golems, but mutated arms are always useful, across many genres.

You can purchase any of the flesh Gokem arm sets individually.

We are planning a sci do range but we will complete the fantasy range first so a long way to go.

 Vermonter wrote:


Whatchu talkin' bout, tamburlaine?

I haven't seen any official mutterings about sci fi offerings here recently.

I do think it might be wise to sell a bits pack of flesh golem arms, though. I have no use for golems, but mutated arms are always useful, across many genres.

Plain as day at the very bottom of the kickstarter preview page.

Some of us read *ALL* the text on the page.

Thats 9pm GMT by the way!

So 5PM EST?

Sweet!

That's 9pm GMT!


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Just to clarify the timezone...

Sweet, I'll be watching at 5pm EDT! (East coast US)

Way to throw in EDT instead of EST to make it even just a little more confusing Rhode Island!

So that puts us around 2PM or so for the West Coast/ Best Coast.

Good thing kids get out of school early today!

Gotta get me a bugbear and some friends!

I'm just sad that I won't be able to bust out my Highlord OR my Barzam memes!

Also, everyone knows it is East Coast/Right Coast/Best Coast and West Coast/Left Coast/Worst Coast!

Pah, the might GMT laughs at all your colonial time zones

(as long as it's not BST)


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Live

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1629942774/minion-miniatures-the-monsters-of-underdeep

We have launched!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1629942774/minion-miniatures-the-monsters-of-underdeep

Totally backed . Only 50 EBs so snag one if you're thinking of getting multiples!

Funded in one hour!! Hurrah. On to the stretchgoals!!

Have you considered allowing some kind of pledges through paypal? I seem to recall some campaigns which have done so, although I think it was after the KS campaign itself

 Kaine Larson wrote:
Funded in one hour!! Hurrah. On to the stretchgoals!!

Congratulations! 30 days to unlock a ton of stuff now!

I went in and grabbed one of the EB's on this. This stuff looks great, I hope we unlock the lizard and minotaur.

People have been asking for more EB's.... I am still new to this. What do you guys think?

Personally, I think it would be fine to just up the number of EBs if you wish. Another way people have done it is a "second bird" EB pledge level, where it's like 1 to 2 pounds more than the first EB.

But if it's in demand, I say add some more, via one option or the other! I saw your update about adding an EB pledge level for Australia / etc, and I don't know if you'll actually need 30 of those for starters - maybe start it at 20 and see if you need to increase?

Yeah! feth those Aussies!

The Bugbear and the Minotaur look amazing! I just placed a Mega Bundle pledge on this project.

I just realized the OP had only the link to the former campaign, so I've temporarily edited in the new link, feel free to edit as you see fit!

I agree praetor, although I'm after Lizardkin Deathscales and Bugbears myself (currently leaning towards 3 lizards and 1 bugbear with my bundle).

3 Lizards to 1 Bugbear?

You're venturing dangerously close to Highlord territory there!

Assuming we unlock them, I'm in for all versions of the minotaur. That Bugbear with tusked helm is pretty awesome as well, especially with his HUGE tower shield, and Skeletoresque warhammer. Plus, Cyclopeon Zombie brute with hook & cleaver, are quite nice.

Yah, if you guys could just keep pledging so the Minotaur get's unlocked and I can pledge for one, that would just be suuuper. M'kay?

So here's a question. If you pledge for a level that includes the stretch goal freebies, and let's just say that you don't get a Flesh Golem.

Will you still receive the alternate flesh golem parts?

(sub as appropriate for lizardmen arms, minotaur heads, etc)
I can see them being useful for conversions and also if someone were to pick up those models down the line.

Also, SG12 (for the Minotaur) seems to be called "Sword and Shield" while the image shows an Axe and Shield...

I believe you get extras for each model you select (Edit: or maybe not, you just get one set of all of them, see Kaine's post below).

Hm, you're right. It says "you may pick any of the parts". So it's not even clear if they're extras or if you're simply allowed to choose them as alternates "for free".

And at 3 quid for an alternate head, they're not exactly priced in a friendly way for a KS that will no doubt be 6 months+ late.

Each stretch goal graphic says if it's included, or only an add-on

All SG's that are free are free. You get them all in addition to what you have purchased. Plus, when you buy a brute you may select ANY piece that has been unlocked to equip him with. But you still get the free bits on top. You can use them as conversion pieces, magnetise them or whatever you want. I also thought I had changed the sword and shield image. We changed it from a sword last week.

Oh, does that mean I'm mistaken then - I'll get one set of flesh golem stretch goal bits free even without selecting a golem, but not multiples of the brutes I select? Not an issue for me, but that was not very clear, so you might want to add a FAQ entry or otherwise clarify this somewhere people can point to for when the same question is asked again.

Yeah...this has been brought up on the KS page. I thought it was clear but when you ahve been starring at Bugbears for weeks and weeks the message gets lost in your own head if you know what I mean. I am working on a graphic showing the Mega Bundle pledge and what you get with it. The truth is you get enough heads and bits of your choice for everything you have bought plus a load of free stuff.

Some bugbear is totally getting manged with zombie parts then.

Poor bugbear.

Some recent car trouble severely cut down my hobby spending. I still want to back this, but I'll wait until the Minotaur gets unlocked. I really want a gladiator minotaur.

Although initially I was not really into the Flesh Golem brute, the new 'flesh warped head" and "monster arm" unlocked made me reconsider.

 Barzam wrote:
Some recent car trouble severely cut down my hobby spending. I still want to back this, but I'll wait until the Minotaur gets unlocked. I really want a gladiator minotaur.

Christmas is coming, maybe some kind sibling, who also happens to be interested in the wargaming hobby and this Kickstarter, will be able to help you out?

Maybe?

A new graphic has been posted explaining how the free SG's work.

Alpharius, please don't give Barzam any ideas.

Next thing you'll expect me to share or something!

It all looks swell, Kaine, and I know you're doing the right thing for the campaign by selling your discounts with tried and true advertising techniques.

But admit it . . . as a first-timer and an intelligent human being, you must feel at least a little silly emblazoning FREE! on exploding red halos, or giving the word "choose" sex appeal by adding an extra "O."

I'm not telling you not to do it; I want you to succeed well enough to get to making sci-fi lizardmen, after all. But if it were me in your shoes, I know I'd be laughing at myself every time I wrote "FREE!!," "But wait, there's more!," etc., etc..

Just be careful not to take traditional advertising approaches too far: spelling "Quality" with a "Kw" renders it an oxymoron.

The Deathscale is unlocked!!!

Huzzah!

Now, finally, here we go:



GET INTO IT!

Awesome that it's unlocked!

But I just realized that the delivery date is listed as May. Is that just to be cautious, and you expect to deliver sooner?

Also doing a bit of funds-housekeeping today and for now have dropped down to a single brute (if I end up only getting one, it will be the Bugbear for sure!). Hopefully I can up back to the 4-pack before the end, although I gave up my EB slot for now in going to the single pledge, so someone else can snag that if you're quick!

R-Tides... The May deadline is purely to be on the safe side. Zealot are fulfilling their own KS and we decided to make it may in case there were any issues. I would think March April would be more realistic but May would be an outside chance.

Deathscale?

Everytime I see that deathscale Lizard picture I just see the leg protruding forward as a huge wang.

 Pilgrim_uk wrote:
Everytime I see that Lizard picture I just see the leg protruding forward as a huge wang.

Only the most virile of lizardfolk for Highlord


I'm waiting for the Zombie Hulk. I need 2 of those things.

I think he was referring to the Deathscale Minion Miniatures pic (top post of this page). I actually had trouble visualizing what the closest leg was at first, too (the knee is blocking the upper portion of the leg from view, so it's hard to see how it connects at first).

 RiTides wrote:
I think he was referring to the Deathscale Minion Miniatures pic (top post of this page). I actually had trouble visualizing what the closest leg was at first, too (the knee is blocking the upper portion of the leg from view, so it's hard to see how it connects at first).

No I know. But Highlord is just gushing over the concept art.


What's the lizard equivalent of "furry"

I thought the Deathscale was a tripod as well.

Totally unrelated, but the more Alpharius posts that Soul Calibur lizardman, the more I realize that ShadowSea's Lizardman Lord figure is TOTALLY based off that pose. Not that that's a bad thing.

I love these sculpts and I really love the Hulk and bugbear with its add-ons but I don't do fantasy.... I feel torn as they look great but I cant think of anything I would use them in. What could I proxy them for? Or should I just wait until the eventual KS for the full game comes out and start my fantasy collection with that?

ClockworkChaos wrote:
I love these sculpts and I really love the Hulk and bugbear with its add-ons but I don't do fantasy.... I feel torn as they look great but I cant think of anything I would use them in. What could I proxy them for? Or should I just wait until the eventual KS for the full game comes out and start my fantasy collection with that?

I don't play any fantasy setting atm (Darklands soon) but have been making a big push to change my DnD from just pen & paper to using mini's and terrain, so that's what these are going for.

I also love undead/zombies, and want the mini's for that sake.

 RivenSkull wrote:

ClockworkChaos wrote:
I love these sculpts and I really love the Hulk and bugbear with its add-ons but I don't do fantasy.... I feel torn as they look great but I cant think of anything I would use them in. What could I proxy them for? Or should I just wait until the eventual KS for the full game comes out and start my fantasy collection with that?

I don't play any fantasy setting atm (Darklands soon) but have been making a big push to change my DnD from just pen & paper to using mini's and terrain, so that's what these are going for.

I also love undead/zombies, and want the mini's for that sake.

I back the KS for the same reason too.

@Kaine
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but on the graphic for SG12 the arms are listed as option B, when I think they should be option C.

May lead to confusion down the line when it's unlocked.

Thanks Azreal13. I will change it.

@Kaine: Is there any chance you can share with us the artwork of the Troll Patriarch that you announced as the SG after the Zombie Hulk?

Hi Praetor,

We have not got it back yet but as soon as I do I will post it.

I'd be interested in that art, too, although it may be a bit to get through the concepts already shown. Still would love to see your take on it, though!

 Kaine Larson wrote:
Hi Praetor,

We have not got it back yet but as soon as I do I will post it.

Thanks for the reply, Kaine. Its description has intrigued me a lot. I can't wait for its art.

For some reason, the last post sent from my I-Phone reposted the first irginal post from April 2014! I don't know what happened there. Anyways... we are only £200 off of our next stretch goal. If you are interested have a look at what has been unlocked so far.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1629942774/minion-miniatures-the-monsters-of-underdeep

The render of the Flesh Golem's alternative head option ("Warped Head") is revealed in the latest update.





Check it also out here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1629942774/minion-miniatures-the-monsters-of-underdeep/posts/1039009

So that's what's underneath that sack. That is suitably disturbing. Love it!

More parts for the Deathscale and an update to boot!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1629942774/minion-miniatures-the-monsters-of-underdeep/posts

I'll admit, dual-sword wielding, crocodile headed Deathscale is kind of appealing. I was holding out for the minotaur, but that lizard is looking awfully cool.

That's your inner Highlord trying to get out and Highlord it up - embrace it!!!

All kidding aside, the crocodile head is the one that I was hoping we'd get to and I'm glad we're there!

Croc head is unlocked?? Gak just got real

- Salvage

We have had a re-jig of the next SG's in the campaign and have brought the Minotaur Guardian and Zombie Hulk forward to make them for accessible. The next SG's are.

It seems to be going really well for you thus far Kaine! Best of luck with it man.

That should spurn some upped pledges



My Wallet Weeps

For all those wondering how the Brutes' size compares to that of other companies' miniatures.

Thanks Tre!

Ohh dear god, dont bring up scale pulease.

According to the creator of the KS, it is quite probable that by the end of this week the Troll Patriarch will be added as an add-on item (independent from the SG's).

And a small bit of fluff on the trolls (again written by the KS creator):

"The Patriarch is the biggest of all the trolls, the head of his clan. They wander the Underdeep in search of violence, food and above all their fondness for swords. They love em and collect many of them. Only the Patriarch gets to fulfill his wanderlust and only when he falls or does not return can another take his place at the head of the clan."

Curious what this troll shall look like. I'm also wondering if he can be chosen as one of our models for those of us in for one of the bundles.

If he goes in as an add-on only he won't be able to be picked as part of one of the bundles

(Minion will be gambling that enough backers want him and add cash for him to pay for the art/sculpting costs as he won't be paid for by the stretch goals as currently listed)

I've had some the art back for the Troll Patriarch. Its not ready to show yet but I thought I should let you know that progress is being made! I should have the full artwork by the end of the week.

Ok... so I got carried away and promised I would add another monster to the KS. This guy is the Troll Patriarch, a really big monster for your games. He is armed with a colossal sword and his armour is made up of "bits" scavenged from other races. His left arm has begun the slow process of turning into stone and is therefore gnarly and rock-like.

This miniature will stand at a huge 66mm to its eye-line and the creature is on its haunches! He is a huge guy. I have had to revise the costs for this guy as he is bigger than the other Brutes (the exception is the Hulk of course). I did say he would be £24 but after working out costs he will be £26. The guy will take up a lot of resin!



I will let you know how to get hold of this guy on Friday. He is only available through the addon store for price above and his appearance will be dependent on us hitting a Pledgers and Funding goal... so if you want him... get your friends to pledge!!!

He is...awesome!

(starts saving up now!)

 Alpharius wrote:
He is...



awesome!

(starts saving up now!)

FTFY

Best Troll ever! It's time to up my pledge!

Jeez this campaign is like pulling teeth just wanting it to get over 11k

Here we have some finished miniatures to show you with all the constituent parts. This illustrates the monsters you can create with the Flesh Golem parts alone.

I am also working on getting one print done and a couple of casts of the Ironshield at some point this week. It will be tight for the end of the KS but hopefully we can get it done!

I was never 100% in to the first variation, but those second two look phenomenal.
This is definitely one of those "I have no current use for these at all!" kickstarters but I think my pledge is going to hang in there.
I can start a new case of barely opened shipping boxes next to my Mierce pile.

I'm glad to say that those guts look fantastic in the end.

Fantastic Zombies

 Kaine Larson wrote:
Here we have some finished miniatures to show you with all the constituent parts. This illustrates the monsters you can create with the Flesh Golem parts alone.

I am also working on getting one print done and a couple of casts of the Ironshield at some point this week. It will be tight for the end of the KS but hopefully we can get it done!

By "miniatures", you mean Renders, right? They're not 3d prints there.

They look absolutely fantastic!

Yeah they are the renders. The ironshield will be printed this week.

What are the chances the Ironshield print comes back before the end of the campaign? I know you said it's going to be close. If it looks like it won't make it, maybe they can snap some photos of it for you at the printer, rather than lose the time in shipping? Just to get a quick visual of it . Personally, I think it's going to print fantastically because it is nice and chunky and should lend itself very well to being a physical model.

Being brutally honest, the original Flesh Golem put me off. Thought is was a poor sculpt. Now I'd be tempted to get one of the other variations.

The variations are enough for me to consider picking one up, so that says something. Never been a fan of gut spilling zombie types.

2 questions:

1) Will there be a $1-in and bump-it-up-in-the-pledge-manager option for this? I'd like to be in, but not this close to Christmas.

2) With the larger pledges, like the 124 and 170-quid levels, do you still only get 1 each of the stretch goal rewards as extras?

Because if not, Just looking at them casually (ie not sitting there with a calculator) but it seems like it might be cheaper to go in for 2 or 3x of the smaller 64 quid deal and get more of the stretch goal extras.

Hi everyone...

It has been a few days since the last update as things have been busy here. I have been chasing down our Ironshield print. I have been told it will be with us soon but it will be tight. I should have it by the end of the campaign.

Instead we have been working on the variations for this awesome beastie as we did for the Flesh Golem. Here are the final pieces as they would look on your wargames table or RPG playing surface. The only slight difference will be the angle of the weapons. All the current weapons are held at the same angle but this will be changed by the time they go to print.

Sadly looks like I'm not going to be in on this one, only want the Zombie Hulk and I don't think we're going to get it unlocked

I'm in, I just grabbed one of the Mega Bundles.

Hopefully the Minotaur & Zombie Hulk get unlocked before the end!

Unfortunately this has slipped back about 900 in the past 2 days.

I had really hoped for the zombie hulk.

Geez, it really did drop. It dropped past the Deathscale, even. Looks like I won't be getting my gladiator minotaur after all.

No, the Deathscale is still funded. It dropped below ten grand... not sure why?

I suspect a lot of people might have been sitting on a pledge hoping to scrunch the money together, but now they've started Christmas shopping and at the same time lots of shiny new Kickstarters are coming... this is probably an easy campaign to drop as it's not a complete package in the same way as a boxed game or terrain collection. These are not even specific proxy minis for some other game. They are "just" beautiful miniatures that people want because they look great.

Maybe I'll get the Deathscale then if it's still unlocked.

He will stay unlocked too Barzam.

Yes, I was going to say the creator (Kaine!) posted it will stay unlocked. Assuming we get a dozen more backers, you'll have the ironshield, deathscale, and troll to choose from. And I'll be shocked if the minotaur hasn't unlocked by the end! (Friday) Time for one last advertising push I think, Kaine

Season aside there are also a lot of interesting kickstarters running right now. I'm pledged in five at the moment, only one of which I would consider to be "vital" to my current gaming. The rest, including this one are all cool projects that I want to see do well and grow.

It's also Black Friday. I can see immediate sale savings with more or less immediate delivery trumping a KS with delivery sometime next year that ends at the same time.

 Azazelx wrote:
It's also Black Friday. I can see immediate sale savings with more or less immediate delivery trumping a KS with delivery sometime next year that ends at the same time.

That's a good point, I didn't think about that unfortunate timing when this started out. Still, I'm hoping this gets a nice little boost at the end here. Only 37 hours to go!

The Troll Patriarch is now unlocked and we are only £1000 away from the Minotaur.

24 hours are left!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1629942774/minion-miniatures-the-monsters-of-underdeep

Troll,

Troll,

and Troll some more

it's rebounded and are now at the highest level. 3400 to go for the Zombie Hulk.

I was very much hoping the Zombie Hulk would have become a reality! From the proposed model, it would be great fun to paint!

Is anyone interested in splitting a mega bundle? I just upped my pledge back to 2 brutes (I had been at 1) after some number crunching, but it is a Much better deal to do so as half of a mega bundle pledge.

From the freebies, I would only want the two lizardkin deathscale arms - whoever split the pledge with me could have the rest.

Thus you'd be looking at 30 pounds + 4 pounds to cover half of the shipping, to get a 2 Brutes plus a whole heap of free extras. Let me know, as this ends at 5pm EST tonight and I would need to funds before then if someone wants to split it!

Down to 70 mins to go

bugbears,

deathscale lizards

the troll patriarch

so get pledging before it's too late

The Kickstarter funded....

Thanks to everyone who has helped, supported, and guided me through this at times horrible but mostly wonderful experience!

Now on to fulfillment!

Looking forward to that part now that I'm past the pain of Paypal taking the pledge! The total of 10K pounds (16K dollars!) is impressive, and hopefully gives you the funds to make these sculpts a reality, and maybe even more sculpting besides. I have big plans for my two deathscales, can't wait to see the renders!

Let me know when you release the Zombie Hulk...

Congratulations on a successful, awesome and well-run campaign! Hopefully this will show the gaming world just what your sculptors can do and the pledgers will come swarming back in the new year for the next step!

Slightly gutted I missed this kickstarter. Those designs are gorgeous!

It's always worth contacting creators after a KS is over to see if you can get in late. Not always possible, but it often is.

Missed putting in a quid for the potential PM access. Went to do it now and ....oops!

keep an eye on this thread as all is not lost yet

Creator Richard O'Connor about 13 hours ago

The renders are being worked on and will be at least 3 weeks to completion. Then I will be posting an update with links to excel based pledge managers along with the renders.

There will also be an opportunity for anybody to up their pledge at this stage and even for new backers to get in on the act!!

I will be posting updates frequently with snapshots of the new renders as they are done!

Thanks Orlando... I'm a bit behind on the fors at the mo. I've been working on the pledge manager today. As soon as everything clears these will be available for download. At this point an email address will be posted on the KS page. You can email me directly with an order and pay via Paypal.

Awesome, Ill keep an eye out for that then.

Don;t sweat it Kaine, this will be easier to fulfill and will not be too difficult to deliver quickly. Also the bigger the project the more costly the " lessons learned " tend to be. trust me there WILL eb lessons learned.

You will fulfill this one relatively painlessly and be MUCH mroe successful on the next run. My advice fro the next one is to get some of the smaller figures out in front.

Is this update:

Update #35

Jan 13 2015

Deathscale coming to life
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Here we have the first few shots of the Lizardkin Deathscale. Over the next few days I should have additional parts completed as well.

This is the first of two heads that will be available for the Deathscale and I think you will agree that our sculptor Victor has captured the concept art perfectly.

More to follow soon...

enough to get, well, you know:

You aren't going to get that out of me until I see the whole figure.

Head alone isn't enough to get me whooping and hollering like that.

Don't be such a kroothawk.

I agree, I am really looking forward to the Deathscale, but need to see more to know what I think of the sculpt.

 RiTides wrote:
I agree, I am really looking forward to the Deathscale, but need to see more to know what I think of the sculpt.

We all want more pics, so we can Highlord it up, and maybe, apparently, so we can...

Amazing

You're over your quota

I think I've decided to go for one bugbear with an extra shield, and one deathscale with extra arms. Pace has to pick up a bit here if he's going to ship in March like he was hoping! Fingers crossed since I actually have an immediate use for the deathscale (gatorman wrastler for hordes, using the croc head of course ).

RiTides, why haven't you replaced all your Gators with Khthonian Krokodar in the meantime?

The Deathscale has some big clawprints to fill if he's going to be hanging with my Kroks.

I think I'm going to end up getting just about one of everything, just for the sake of trying out some new things that aren't reptiles to paint.

I've not been able to complete the Pledge Manager due to not having access to a computer with Excel installed.

I contacted Richard at minionminis2014@gmail.com to ask if I could manually give him the details of what I pledged for, which I included in the email.

I got no response, even after contacting him again. This was approximately two weeks ago, has anyone else been able to get in touch successfully?

I've not been able to complete the Pledge Manager due to not having access to a computer with Excel installed.

I contacted Richard at minionminis2014@gmail.com to ask if I could manually give him the details of what I pledged for, which I included in the email.

I got no response, even after contacting him again. This was approximately two weeks ago, has anyone else been able to get in touch successfully?

Hi,

I have had so many emails I am kind of inundated but two weeks is unacceptable. I thought I was only a few weeks behind. Can you give me your KS Username or email address and I will see if I can find your original email.

Sorry for the mis-communication.

Richard

Apologies, it wasn't two weeks it was more like 8 days, I sent the email on the 24th of January.

Thanks for getting back to me, I was concerned that maybe I had the wrong email address, but I can totally appreciate that you have a lot on your plate at the moment.

PM sent with pledge details.

Pics of the first Bugbear Ironshield cast is posted!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1629942774/minion-miniatures-the-monsters-of-underdeep/posts/1141684

I'm really impressed with the detail on the resin cast.

Great job!

How the heck did I miss this KS!!!! Doh.

That is some great casting and those shields are fantastic. When does this stuff go on sale to the public or blind people like myself that obviously weren't paying attention.

Minion Miniatures has said they hope to get them on sale this summer (after the KS backers have been fulfilled)

Very nice castings there. Shame I missed out on this one by a day (I forgot to pledge and remembered just after it closed!)

I'm really sad that we didn't get to the Zombie Hulk. But with this being the figure/casting quality, I think next time there is a KS it will do very well.

I have posted a couple of pictures of the final Bugbear Ironshield...

I would like to hear what you guys think...




GW model shown for scale purposes only.

He's going to pound that poor 'armless' marine into the ground like a tent peg,

lovely

It looks positively brilliant!

Jesus that is an awesome model. I'm sad that I couldn't afford this one :(

Deathscale first glimpse from facebook

Still not a fan of him dragging his snack through the dirt.

Doesn't he know it'll get dirty?

I'm hoping the torso is a separate piece from the hand.

Otherwise, I'm satiated.

The model is being cut over the next couple of days so I will see what we can do about the body arm.

The arm is fine, IMHO. It's a monster, I don't think that he gives a gak that his meal is dirty.

Please don't change the sculpt because of one dissenting voice!

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
The arm is fine, IMHO. It's a monster, I don't think that he gives a gak that his meal is dirty.

Please don't change the sculpt because of one dissenting voice!

I do not think it will be changed, what I think Kaine is saying is that the arm will be a separate piece so you could fiddle with it if you really wanted to. I assume it means to give people as many options as possible. With more options everyone wins!

Thats the plan! The more bits he can be cut into, without affecting the "user friendliness" of the build, the better. Theres nothing worse than a static model or a model with too many bits you cant be bothered to build!!

Forgot they have the option for the to carry twin blades though, so I guess it's a moot point.

I also thought it would be amusing to have him carrying off a goblin.

Yeah, I'm planning to convert the arms, too - I ordered both sets, but if I go with this set I'll likely have him grasping something else. I think that part is fine, though - I'm not totally sure about the neck-to-head area. But I am getting the crocodillan head anyway, so that may work more to my liking

Yeah, I'm planning to convert the arms, too - I ordered both sets, but if I go with this set I'll likely have him grasping something else. I think that part is fine, though - I'm not totally sure about the neck-to-head area. But I am getting the crocodillan head anyway, so that may work more to my liking

I think its the necklace (that sounds a bit camp for a Deathscale).... its actually an ancestral torc of the ancients (???). You lose the line of the neck a little. It looks better at other angles but I know what you mean. It will look much better when its printed and you can see the creatures lines a bit better.

 RiTides wrote:
Yeah, I'm planning to convert the arms, too - I ordered both sets, but if I go with this set I'll likely have him grasping something else. I think that part is fine, though - I'm not totally sure about the neck-to-head area. But I am getting the crocodillan head anyway, so that may work more to my liking

I wonder if your eye may be wanting the crest to carry on across the top of the head, quite a few lizard/saurian models have that sort of look and you may well subconsciously expect it

Just thought I would post the near finished bugbear. Couldn't wait till I actually had it done. This guy shows the Bugbear with Head A, Shield A and Weapon A.

You lucky duck!

Quite impressive. Very much looking forward to having one of these guys of my own in the flesh, and I certainly hope once they're out in the wild they help get interest to the degree necessary to aim for the plastics.

I'm sure you're excited to have your "baby" in your hands, so to speak!

Yeah...its awesome...should have the Flesh Golem soon too!

 Kaine Larson wrote:
I have posted a couple of pictures of the final Bugbear Ironshield...

I would like to hear what you guys think...




GW model shown for scale purposes only.

Holy hell nice

The main model is finished. I have decided to go for the Boneshard shield instead of the original, just because it hides less of the model for display purposes.

Flesh golem castss (from facebook)

I am excited to get these, and launch the next KS with more goodness after everyone sees how amazing these are.

Final cut of the Deathscale ready for printing (from facebook)

Another shot of the Deathscale...

So here we have the finished Flesh Golem in all its gory glory.

I have decided to use the Deathmask, Bearpelt shoulders and claw and tentacle armset on this particular model and I think he looks suitably grim!!!

I'm not as sure about Deathscale, seems like he needs more scales (which is a bummer since that's the main one I'm after ). But the print of the golem is really nice!

I would say the chainmail and the feet could have used a little more definition, but on the whole, it looks fantastic.

I have been promising this for a while now but I have the first WIP shot for the Troll Patriarch. This is still a fairly early WIP shot but it will give you an idea of how this enormous brute will look.

From facebook

The Troll is almost finished. I'd love to here your comments. There will be a dead goblin hanging from his belt before he is done!!
I think the face is now craggier and I will get the stone on the arms to be larger and more pronounced.

That looks really similar to the art, well done!

I wish the Deathscale had turned out as similar, but I'm still hoping seeing the 3d print / master of it will sway me (and I'm pledged for it anyway).

cut before printing (from facebook)

Progress and the next KS


Hello everyone,
As you know progress has been a bit slow at late. May is slipping by and I have not got much more to update you with. The casts are being done and should be ready soon. The Troll is now out for printing so should be ready to start casting ASAP.

I am making one last call out to those who have not chosen their miniatures yet to get back to me as soon as is practically possible.I still have a fair few blanks in my database so you guys will be getting random minis. Sorry about this but the opportunity to choose finished in March and I am still getting people email. SO ITS YOUR LAST CHANCE PEEPS!

On a more positive note I have had some artwork for our next KS. I'm sorry if you think I am jumping the gun a bit as I have not fillies this one yet but I love showing you guys the new stuff. As I mentioned previously two new creatures will be appearing in the next KS including the Underhulk and the Hook Beast. Here is the hook beast in all its beaky, hooky, glory! I hope you like him...




(I've added red to the most important bit of text, if you've not chosen you minis and bits please do so (or contact Minion if you don't know how)

from facebook,

Hello Everyone,

I have not posted for a while as I have been busy making sure everything is ready to be shipped for our KS. We are a couple of months overdue but the good news is we should start shipping within the next 2-3 weeks.

I have some other news too.. Our second KS will launch sometime in early October.

We are changing things ofr the second KS and we are going to concentrate on one single model... the biggest model in our range (at this stage). If any of you have seen our troll you will realise this is some statement to make!!

The next KS will launch the Zombie Hulk miniature. He is a beast, 110mm tall and almost as round, he will have a variety of cool bits to unlock to make it possible to create many different looking creatures.

The reason we are only limiting this KS to one miniature is that we can make, deliver and complete this KS in a much faster time than the last one (especially with all the lessons we have learned along the way). We have also had more interest in this model than any other we have designed!!

We also want to accumulate cash to get our entire Goblin range off the ground...which will be the KS after that!!

I have attached some pictures below of our current range, some of the painted miniatures and some art work of the Zombie Hulk and some early 3D renders of the beastie too!

Definitely going to be backing this in october, I'm still hoping you'll make a larger lizard beast as well.

Some lovely details on the big guy. Will be interesting to see how he translates into miniature.

Backed your first KS, was sad it didn't get of the ground. Was going to back the 2nd one but the Zombie Hulk didn't get funded :( Glad the Hulk will be the next one and really looking forward to your gobbos!

A larger lizard beast is definitely on the cards. We will strive to do the Goblinkind faction first followed by either by Lizardkin or Undead. The next monster up for the Lizardkin is the Troglodyte Behemoth, a huge lizards snapping turtle like creature.

However, next up is the Hulk! He will be so cool!!

It will be a mini KS and may only run for 14 days, we have not made up our mind yet. The other monsters from the last KS will also be available to those who missed the last one or want to top up their collection. Only the Goblin Skulk will not return in his current guise. His limited edition status means he will not be making an appearance and neither will the Bugbear Ironshield Loyalty Head.

I did really want the hulk in the first Kickstarter, but not as much as the Minotaur! I'm sad that he won't feature in this next KS, but I will have to get a zombie hulk though.

You should try to come up with a few more variant parts for the bugbear, flesh golem, and deathscale, as they can make some cheap new versions for models you have most of the pieces made for already. Selling them along side figures which need to be fully modeled, can add a bit more money to the kickstarter, with minimal new work. You've proven that you can come up with some great variants for these models, so that could work pretty well.

 Kaine Larson wrote:
A larger lizard beast is definitely on the cards. We will strive to do the Goblinkind faction first followed by either by Lizardkin or Undead. The next monster up for the Lizardkin is the Troglodyte Behemoth, a huge lizards snapping turtle like creature.

Oh man, will it be a similar size to Deathscale? That's already pretty big! If so I'll be all over it . Just hope you don't go much bigger so it's still a usable in-game size (a bit smaller would work fine still though)

It will be bigger but not huge. It will be most probably on all fours with a rocky, swampy, Island on its back. It will be a lumbering brute... Slow witted but insanely strong. He will be the largest of the lizardkin models.

 Kaine Larson wrote:
A larger lizard beast is definitely on the cards. We will strive to do the Goblinkind faction first followed by either by Lizardkin or Undead. The next monster up for the Lizardkin is the Troglodyte Behemoth, a huge lizards snapping turtle like creature.
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Sounds sick

Yeah, that sounds amazing! Having it all all fours is great too I just hope it fits on a reasonably sized base! Maybe you can do some posing with it (such as giving it a rocky outcropping overhanging the front of the base) to help with that (similar to how Deathscale comes with a terrain feature to stand on).

Thanks for the peak behind the curtain, love your concepts and the execution too!

I approve of this 4 legged island lugging monstrosity.

I'd also like to echo the idea of making new parts for some of the previous campaign's figures to help push the total up.

I'm sure I could use an extra deathscale on top of the ones I'm getting...

Sounds like a giant turtle.

Will those awesome looking Hobgoblins be a part of the goblin-kind KS?

Just wanted to say I'm glad to see things progressing for Minion miniatures, Kaine. I remain impressed by the level of world-building craft and visual artistry that's gone into launching this fantasy range. Honestly, when you look at the work your concept artist turns out, it boggles the mind how other larger and richer gaming companies can settle for inferior work.

I remain a sci-fi guy, and I'm sure it will be a good while before you get into that genre - a wise strategy, since it's probably best to focus on building up your core fantasy line right now. So I can't say how much my enthusiasm will translate into financial support in the near future, although I'll keep an eye out for fantasy creatures that veer close enough to pass for sci-fi beasties in the meantime. (Still psyched to use your unique looking goblins as primitive aliens.)

In the meantime talk is cheap, I know, but keep on trucking. Fantasy isn't my thing, but I respect quality when I see it. Best of luck to you.

Barzam - the hobgoblins will definitely be part of the Goblinkind Faction and will be part of that KS.

Highlord - The additional parts idea certainly has merit and it is something we will think about. We may also invest in some different bodies for the original creatures. We are not sure yet.

Vermonter - thank you for your kind words. It means a lot to here positive feedback from the community. Minion is currently a one man show and it has taken a huge amount of time and willpower to get this far!! We are growing and I hope to add to the team with another full time position soon! We are committed to the fantasy line at present and we will make sure every faction has been released before we even think about Sci Fi. That said I do have some ideas floating around... I love the old school Traveller style universe as opposed to the darker 40k style future.

So are the Minotaur and the rest of it's Labyrinth cronies on the back burner for the foreseeable future?

There is a possibility he will make an appearance during this KS but it's more likely that the faction will form part of another KS later on.

 Kaine Larson wrote:
There is a possibility he will make an appearance during this KS but it's more likely that the faction will form part of another KS later on.

Cool! Well, if he makes it into the next KS, that would be great! I'm still excited for the Hulk either way.

Do you plan to make a version of the Hulk's stomach where he isn't leaking his intestines, or one without the racks of dead bodies on it's back? Sort of a 'just a big fat evil guy' version.

There will be lots of additional parts. We may have a gut plate option or something along those lines... Maybe a great big belly maw. I'm not sure yet. The render for the basic version is nearly ready and we will make a decision on the rest very soon.

 Kaine Larson wrote:
There will be lots of additional parts. We may have a gut plate option or something along those lines... Maybe a great big belly maw. I'm not sure yet. The render for the basic version is nearly ready and we will make a decision on the rest very soon.

Sounds great! Can't wait to see what you come up with for the hulk. I really liked the helmet and head designs you did for the bugbear, flesh golem and deathscale, and I already like the spiked helmet, and cyclops heads for the hulk, so I'm sure there's more great stuff ahead for him. Hoping for more big bashing arms as well, and maybe a pseudo Howdah for his back.

Hard to believe this hasn't been posted yet!



Now THAT is what a Troll should look like!

Thanks!!! I've been meaning to post this image on Dakka and I'm pleased you did it Alpharius. He is a big lad. The other trolls won't be quite as big! However the Zombie Hulk is even bigger!!!

I love trolls - Old School Trolls that is!

This one more than qualifies, and once he's available 'retail', I'm buying one!

That is really impressive!

I didn't realize how big the troll was until seeing this:

So, he's basically sitting on a CD?
Oh snap

Not quite a CD but close. He is on a 115mm by 80mm oval base.

That looks amazing. All of these look amazing. I'm so glad I saw this thread!

So the next kickstarter is planned to be the Zombie Hulk, and after that you're thinking goblins, right? Got my fingers crossed...all that concept art is incredible, I think that's my new favorite look for the little guys.

Don't forget the hook horror and minotaur!

Like I had typed in the comments, I'm very pleased with what I got. Very crisp details. After a bit of trimming on one arm, the pieces fit in without glue even. These were a heck of a lot easier to build then my Mierce stuff, that's for sure.

Plan on picking up some primer this afternoon and getting to work on them this week!

Zombie hulk WIP from latest KS update

Its been some time since we posted on the forums mainly due to the pressure of getting the Kickstarter fulfilled and out to our wonderful backers. The good news is that this is almost done. We have picked the final parcels for our backers and these are going out to the distributor over the holiday season to be delivered in the New Year I suspect.

This means I have some time to dedicate to other things in my life! Actually it means I have been thinking about the next KS that we will be launching in the first few months of 2016. We are in no rush to get this started asap as traditionally January KS are not as successful and there are plenty of other KS's going on in the meantime.

As you may or not know Minion Miniatures is a very small company, currently run part time by myself and my patient other half. I am a chap with a vision who wants to bring a variant of a well known fantasy world to life through our miniatures and eventually through our skirmish wargame Underdeep. Although we have invested a lot of money into this venture it is the KS framework that has enabled us to realise my dream of owning and running a miniatures company and it is through KS that we will continue to work for the meantime.

Our current goal is to release our Goblin faction via KS in its entirety. This can only happen if we can fund the renders and printing of them and to do this we have decided to run a Monsters of Underdeep 2 Kickstarter.

This KS will involve all of the original monsters available during Monsters of Underdeep 1 (although at a less discounted rate to protect our original backers) along with some new monsters. The primary focus of the KS will be our huge new monsters... the Zombie Hulk.

For those of you who have backed our last project and received the Troll, the Zombie Hulk is even bigger!!! He will have a plethora of additional parts, including new weapons, heads, little zombie dudes and a couple of additional gut plates (one of which will be armoured and the other a massive toothed belly maw).

The render shown below is just a WIP and there is plenty more texturing etc to be done but it gives an idea of the basic design we are looking at.

There will be an early bird option for one Zombie Hulk, 2 Zombie Hulks and 3 Zombie Hulks along with another couple for the Monsters as well. All the monsters and pledge levels will also be available as part of the addon store.

More info to come...

I have been "Off Air" for a while working hard in the background fulfilling the last our KS and making sure that our pledgers are happy.

Now that all the pledges have been sent I have been working on the new Kickstarter, beginning in late March and entitled; The Monsters of Underdeep 2 - The Zombie Hulk.

For those that have not seen the Zombie Hulk I have attached some pictures and size comparisons for you to see as well as some of the monsters from the last campaignt hat will be available again during the next campaign.

All of the miniatures below come on 60mm bases apart from the troll and hulk who stand on 100mm bases. This gives you an understanding of the size of these guys.

I will be posting more stuff over the next few weeks so keep an eye out!!






The Zombie hulk is bigger than the Troll who is about 75mm to eyeline.



The above pic gives an idea of how big the Troll is against a GW Lotr model.

Those are some beautiful minis! Really imposing, with such a menace to them.

Have to ask, though, are those plastic Goblins you had planned still on the radar any time soon? I really liked the direction you were going with those.

I missed out on the last KS as the ZH didn't fund. So I'll be all over this! Really hope you're still going to release your ruleset for The Underdeep as I found it quite interesting.

The plastics are now a long term goal once the skirmish game is released. The plan is to slowly establish the range with two or three factions before releasing the rules proper. This will also coincide with us focusing on the plastic range again.

Looking forward to that Hook Horror (I probably can't justify the Hulk, cool though it is),

The Bugbears and Lizard Men and Troll Patriarch I got are fantastic so I can highly recommend your products to anybody who's on the fence

Agreed, the 4 minis that I received from the last KS were very nice indeed.

I'll be pledging for the big guy in the next KS for sure!

Hopefully there will be a decent pledge manager this time too, or I'll just have to end up emailing my choices again

Yeah... definitely - The pledge manager was a faux-pas.... another lesson learned.

As you may know by now the Monsters of Underdeep Kickstarter will be beginning at the beginning of April.

Please keep your eyes peeled for an update over the next few days.

I thought I would post some of the plates from the KS as a taster!

April 4th sees the launch of the new Minion Miniatures Kickstarter: The Monsters of Underdeep 2.

Since the success of our last KS we have been finalising the design of our Zombie Hulk miniature that will form the basis of the new Kickstarter. The Zombie Hulk is one of the larger denizens of the Underdeep and will be double if not three times the size of our earlier offerings. He stands an impressive 85mm to eye line, however with his shoulder spikes and vestigial wings he will stand approximately 130mm tall!

As well as the Zombie Hulk all of the previous Monsters will be available this time round including the formidable Bugbear Ironshield, the primordial Lizardkin Deathscale and the grotesque Flesh Golem. These miniatures average at roughly 60mm to eye line and all come on 60mm round bases.

The last of the miniatures available from the start will be the Troll Patriarch. This miniature is also huge, twice the size of our Bugbear Ironshield miniature he stands at a whopping 70mm to eye line and comes with a 90mm round base.

As last time there will lots of unlockable stretch goals including new monsters such as the Minotaur Guardian, the Hook Beast and the Underhulk as well as a multitude of parts for the new monsters and course the Zombie Hulk.

Finally, as last time, some of the stretch goal parts will be free to backers of a certain level.

We have truly gained valuable experience from our first KS and we will make sure all of this knowledge is put to good use to make this KS even more successful than the first.

Exciting stuff! I'm so glad there's another chance to get that troll.

The Troll is indeed available. He is available as an addon to any pledge or there is a pledge where he can be purchased on his own. IUf he is purchased as an addon to a larger pledge the discount on normal brutes will also be applied to him. This means the bigger the pledge the cheaper he will be.

Excellent. I backed the cancelled KS, and then missed backing the relaunched one by a day/hours. I'm happy to have another chance to get a couple of Bugbears and the Troll.

...maybe I'll finish my whopping 4 figures before this one starts.

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....probably not. At least my second bugbear is almost finished and I've finally made up my mind how I want to proceed with my Deathscales.

Hopefully I can distract my wife long enough to pledge for this one as well. I'm really interested in the Hulk with some of those crazy add on parts!

At least I got one guy done (and also to give folks a size comparison, as the companion figure here (who has a matching tartan since the two are BFFs) is on a 40mm base-



My lone finished Bugbear pulling double duty as a Trollkin Bouncer as well as a Ogre Siegebreaker Hero for Kings of War.

The big guy gets around!

I'll probably back this for some additional Flesh Golems, but that Zombie Hulk just doesn't do it for me at all, as I've said before.

Love the Bugbear Highlord... I know a couple of,other people that use the minis for Trollbloods... Nice paint job.

New ad for the KS...

Also have a full colour piece of the Hulk coming soon....YAY!!!

That Bugbear looks nice but you can't really call them 28mm if they're all 65mm to the eyeline. That's a 65mm model.. which is WAY too big for a 28mm bugbear (which are normally just a bit bigger than a man).

Not in the Underdeep universe...

He is 28mm scale and will fit in with the rest of our range. In our descriptive text of the Burbear Ironshield it is said that only the largest examples are kitted out in this fashion. There are of course smaller Bugbears. We have another model available in this KS called the Bugbear Brute who will be slightly smaller (but not by much).

The whole idea of Underdeep as a range is that we wanted to put a twist on the standard fantasy world. Everything is familiar, but also a bit different.

You are quite right, our Bugbear is not the Bugbear of your standard fantasy rpg... He is a whole lot more!!

The Monsters of Underdeep Kickstarter kind of just happened. We were originally going to release both the Goblinkind faction and the Abomination faction at the same time, followed by the other factions in turn. Due to our first KS cancelling, we had to rethink things and we decided to release our biggest and most impressive creations first. The second KS was very sucessful.

This has been great for us but, admittedly, it has unbalanced our releases slightly. The reason for this is that its easier to see a miniatures place within a range when the full range is available to see. For example a Giant has no context until it seen as part of a goblin horde.

This is what has happened with our range so far. These mini's are centre piece models for a skirmish warband of around 30 models. Seen in the right context they fit.

However, I do see what you mean when compared to what is currently available.

Okay.. well have fun with that.. are your goblins also 2" tall?

I'm not seeing a problem here. The Ironshield is part of the (fictional) Bugbear race, who says some of them cant be freakishly big?

 MLaw wrote:
Okay.. well have fun with that.. are your goblins also 2" tall?

What's the problem exactly, is it the fact that they're calling it a bugbear but not following the D&D template? I don't really see why these models wouldn't be considered 28mm scale just like any other bigger models in a 28mm setting...

That's their choice. If you look up Bugbears you see that they were originally goblin bears. The aesthetic they are using though is lifted directly from the D&D version. If people see this and aren't as familiar with scale as some of us, they might buy this thinking "oh, I'm getting a bugbear character" then surprise they're actually getting a giant. It's over 2.5" tall. Granted, that would make a decent ogre stand in but someone that's familiar with D&D could be easily misled.

Either way.. My response was one of disappointment not anger.. I know it's hard to read that. I am painting up bugbears right now as a matter of fact for D&D so this got my attention.. I don't have use for this and was bummed out.

In fairness, the size of the models hasn't exactly been a secret. There have been comparison charts, pictures, taglines telling you exactly how many millimeters it is to the eyeline...I don't see anyone buying one by accident only to realize it's out of scale for the bugbears they wanted. I guess they're just more ogre-like in Morn!

Side note - is there anywhere the playtest Underdeep rules can still be found? I'm ridiculously curious about the game setup and world, everything about it sounds like my kind of setting.

Yeah, Ogre-like is what I was thinking..
I didn't actually see comparison pics of the bugbear.. I probably missed them but I kept seeing pictures of the troll.. which a lot of people ARE making 2" + trolls so it didn't seem out of place to me. If they did a whole line of D&D sized bugbears (or hobbgobbies OMG) I would be in hard but I've got ogres for days so it's a disappointment for me :(

I know hobgoblins were in the pipeline at one point...they looked pretty sweet, the concept art had them with Immortals-style masks. And, so far, the models have done a great job of sticking to the concept art!

The comparison chart was a couple pages back, I think. It showed the troll, the bugbear, and...maybe the deathscale? Along with the zombie hulk and a silhouette of a GW elf.

 Spinner wrote:
I know hobgoblins were in the pipeline at one point...they looked pretty sweet, the concept art had them with Immortals-style masks. And, so far, the models have done a great job of sticking to the concept art!

The comparison chart was a couple pages back, I think. It showed the troll, the bugbear, and...maybe the deathscale? Along with the zombie hulk and a silhouette of a GW elf.

There's a ton of broken links but I did go back a little further than my initial skimming and found one.. Yeah, he's biiiig. Do you know if the hobgoblins were meant to be more man-sized?

Not a clue, sadly. I'm not even sure how big the regular goblins are supposed to be in comparison with, say, night goblins - I'm hoping for a bit bigger, but who knows?

The bugbears, however, ARE in a monster-themed Kickstarter, so that could help indicate how big everything else is supposed to be. Relatively speaking.

Hi all...

Right I'll try and answer everyones questions.

Mlaw...I hope I didn't come across as defensive, that really wasn't my intent.

First of all... the Underdeep game. It is still being playtested. We rushed the intial playtest version out but we will be releasing the game as part of a boxed set KS probably next year. Before that I will make some copies available for serious playtesters.
The game... if some people have not read about it... is skirmish based and themed on the wars underground. We have many factions we want to release, Undead Abominations, Goblinkind, Lizardkin, Orcs, Gnolls, Sunsiders (Adventurer parties and their retinues) along with Drow, Orcs and others.

The Hobgoblins are part of the Goblinknd faction and will be available during the next KS as a stretch goal. I have attached some of the concept artwork below.

We are starting small and trying to build organically so that we don't overstretch, over promise or under deliver. The releases will be methodical and the Kickstarters will be realistic.

The concept art looks incredible as always! Thanks!

Man, that hobgoblin wizard is rocking out hard.

 Kaine Larson wrote:


is skirmish based and themed on the wars underground. We have many factions we want to release, Undead Abominations, Goblinkind, Lizardkin, Orcs, Gnolls, Sunsiders (Adventurer parties and their retinues) along with Drow, Orcs and others.

I have probably said this before, but this is such an awesome concept! Will be interesting to see how the game pans out.

Those hobgoblins aren't what I was looking for.. BUT I LOVE THEM! Especially the extremely metal one.

The fact that it's a skirmish but you also mention wars.. which makes me feel like scaling might be involved.

The game is skirmish level but we have played games using 70 odd minus a side. I would class the game as skirmish as you can play with 15-20 minis.

I've had several folks ask at AdeptiCon where they can buy the Deathscale model (built with croc head). I told them you're about to launch a second campaign where they can get it

As for size, it's spot-on perfect size for a Wrastler for Privateer Press. Just have to remove the weapon from the right hand!

Thanks for spreading the word RiTides

Due to a serious internet issue at Minion HQ we have had to reschedule the start of the KS to the 8th of April.

For the last few days we have been operating on 0.25 of a meg that has been fairly restrictive plus the limited capacity of my mobile.

We have contacted the services provider and they have guaranteed it will be fixed within 48 hours. We have given ourselves a buffer just to be sure.

We could launch it before hand but I would not have the ability to respond as I would like to questions and comments and my ability to upload would be non existent in regard to stretch goals etc.

I understand its a pain but as the internet Gods have decided to punish me once I am not going to tempt fate and launch whilst unprepared.

So... to conclude, only the launch date has changed. It is now APRIL 8th @ 9pm.

Please spread the word!!

Just another reminder that tonight's Kickstarter has been rescheduled for Friday 8th April @ 9pm GMT.

Best of Luck with this Kaine!

Thanks Tre... Very much appreciated.

Below you can see the new Zombie Hulk full colour artwork.

Nice art!!!

Regarding launch time, are you sure you want to launch on a Friday evening? I think waiting till Monday would be much better for the initial boost, which is quite important to most campaigns. I'll check for it either time but most people won't be on the weekend.

It was just a necessity at the time to give my internet provider time to fix a problem. It is now fixed but I've put so much info out now for the 8th that it seems mad to start earlier. You are not the first person to say this however.

Well it would be later but that makes sense. Still if you decide to push it by a few days I don't think there's any harm done. Will be backing regardless!

 MLaw wrote:
Okay.. well have fun with that.. are your goblins also 2" tall?

Maybe they enjoy playing Magic Realm?

Also, speaking of bugbears...



http://shamsgrog.blogspot.com/2008/07/whats-bugbear.html

I should do a new pumpkin head option!!!!

 Kaine Larson wrote:
I should do a new pumpkin head option!!!!

That would be AMAZEBALLS.

The alternate parts are certainly a hit - loved the options they gave me from the first campaign! Happy to add on for them, too, rather than have them included - just make sure it's clear that it's one per pledge if you do include them, that was a little hard to understand last time.

Really looking forward to this . I've gotten so many comments on the Wrastler (gator head Deathscale) model in my Hordes army it's crazy. So much better than the official model!

 Kaine Larson wrote:
I should do a new pumpkin head option!!!!

Yes, you should!

Pumpkin Headed Models are something I really like - and no, I don't really know why, other than that they look cool!

(When done right!)

While I don't share the sentiment that's the advantage of alternate bits - being able to offer something as an add-on or the like that can give the model a completely different use!

We have an alternative head option as the first stretch goal... It's also free to all backers of premium pledges. It's a cyclopean head giving the hulk a plague demon quality....

 Kaine Larson wrote:
It's a cyclops an head giving the hulk a plague demon quality....

So one could conceivably make a GUO out of it?

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 Kaine Larson wrote:
It's a cyclops an head giving the hulk a plague demon quality....

It's Cyclops giving head to the Hulk of what quality??



Speaking of pumpkins... : https://www.secretweaponminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=halloween&x=0&y=0

Oops....cyclopean

Just looking over your previous KS, are the spiked helm/visor and demonic wings still planned for stretch goals?

And will the Hulk be at the same price?

Gonna be severely tempted by this one...

Yeah all the stretch goals are available. The price has gone up simply because we chose to use a better 3D printer and resin mid campaign. We made no money in the first campaign so we have had to increase the prices to make it tenable this campaign and to drive creativity moving forward. The Hulk will be between £36 and £48 depending on the pledge level which is really cheap for a model of its size. It is huge, will be on a 90mm base and is about 150mm tall overall. It is 85mm to eyeline as it is and almost that in diameter. Again the brutes have gone up in price and will be between £16 and £24 or there abouts. I think I underpriced on the last campaign for miniatures of their size and I don't think many people realised quite how big they were. The troll is enormous. Anyone who got one in the last campaign will tell you just how big he is.n The hulk is much bigger than him!!


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is there a way we can buy some of the models from the last campaign to see them in person before bidding on this campaign?

We don't have a webstore yet but will do after this KS. All I can do is post pics of the last miniatures including sOme close ups of the parts. The quality is very high and has been commented on by our backers. There is very little to zero mould lines and flash. All the miniatures are printed on a Solidscape 3Z Max, a super high definition printer. I will post some pics of the painted and unpainted models for you.


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Hope this is shows the quality level well enough. I understand it is no substitute for holding the miniature in your hands but we have put quality above all else when it comes to sculpting, printing and casting.

I can attest to the casting quality. I think I'll have to spend a total of 2-3 minutes, if that, at max cleaning up any mold lines when I get around to painting my 4 models from the last campaign.

I'm really hoping that this campaign goes smoothly, and a bit faster than the last one. I'm hoping that those smaller zombies get made soon

About 6 hours to go, will there be early birds or limited pledges?

Yep... Quite a few. They offer discounts on the non EB pledges.

Good to know! I'll be watching with interest

9pm GMT launch or another timezone?

 RiTides wrote:
9pm GMT launch or another timezone?

GMT going by Facebook, so 4pm Eastern.

Man, I got to wait until 1PM Pacific? BORING.

Just start it already so I can camp my EB and daydream about actually finishing all my models!

9pm GMT is correct. See you guys soon. Ill post the link straight away. Is it possible to post the link before it starts..... or is that stupid question?


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MOnsters of Underdeep 2 - HAS LAUNCHED!!!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1629942774/minion-miniatures-the-monsters-of-underdeep-2

Bumping as that edit didn't do it!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1629942774/minion-miniatures-the-monsters-of-underdeep-2?ref=nav_search

In at Death Guard level! Added the Troll too, because it is amazing.

Shipping is very reasonable too!

BACKER NUMBER ONE.

In for a Hulk, may add up for some new brutes later on...

Guess I should start putting together an undead warband so I can use the Hulk as a centerpiece...

Pledged for the trooooooooll!

So excited for this.

Thanks guys....

Pledged, although I'm hoping it will be for a Hook Beast! If we get there it will be a Brute selection, right?

I mentioned the hook horror too,

that is certainly something I'm hoping for

It will Ritides

In for a Hulk and two Flesh Constructs. Hope this dos really well as I cant wait for the Underdeep ruleset.

You have good taste, Orlando . Fingers crossed!

The previous Brutes are also all available, so for anyone who missed them last campaign this is currently the only way to get them. I get so many comments on the Deathscale gator model, it's awesome!

Nice haul, overtyrant - those should make some good Hulk bodyguards

Another render of the fat lad along with a little video.



https://www.facebook.com/minionminiatures/videos/464474563743501/

Pledged for £88, hoping to get the Zombie Hulk, Minotaur & Hook Horror.

The figures that I received from the first KS were awesome, flawless casts too.

Just 1k to go till we get the taste one eyed head for the hulk!

 Goregut wrote:
Just 1k to go till we get the taste one eyed head for the hulk!

Er...phrasing!

Anyway, this one is moving along nicely - funded already!

Haha


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Nearly reached our first stretchgoal... the cyclopean head.

This piece is free to all backers of Double Trouble level and above and will transform the Hulk into a cyclopean rot demon of epic proportions.



After this the next stretchgoal is the "Cleaver and Hook" armset.

We have just hit £7k. Only another £500 to th next stretch goal!!

I want me my stitches model! make it so people or god help me I will hunt you down and slap you with a fish!