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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:06:08
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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is now up and can be got from here
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:12:46
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It's like they read Dakka before making these decisions...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:13:46
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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Awesome. So I guess we're done with the whole "wings as hull" debate?
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No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:15:48
Subject: Re:Guard FAQ..
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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mixed blessings on the LR for guard..but at least it confirms they can have one eh ?
No surprise either on the no orders to allies clarification, seems a sensible solution for the valk. and passengers too.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:18:48
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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Uriels_Flame wrote:Awesome. So I guess we're done with the whole "wings as hull" debate?
Not entirely. We still don't know what they are for being shot at, if I read that correctly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:19:28
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If you take two Astropaths or two Officers of
the Fleet, do their +1/-1 to reserve rolls stack?
No
Well that is definitely a different direction. Stinks for Astropaths but OotF was good for your opponent anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:20:34
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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GMMStudios wrote:If you take two Astropaths or two Officers of
the Fleet, do their +1/-1 to reserve rolls stack?
No
Well that is definitely a different direction. Stinks for Astropaths but OotF was good for your opponent anyway.
That might be one of the more arbitrary decisions. I'm guessing they were told they have trouble keeping the advisers in stock, and they should get people to buy other things instead....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:21:08
Subject: Re:Guard FAQ..
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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Got the expected result on: only one heavy weapons team in infantry and veteran squads, you can't give orders in opponent's turn, hotshot lasguns aren't lasguns, hellstrikes aren't blast
Harsher than expected: ICs with Send in the Next Wave (ouch), no stacking of advisors
Not surprised: Can't multiple barrage with a mortar and Master of Ordnance, Valks can embark and disembark troops, allies FAQ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:21:36
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Battleship Captain
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And while they did clarify that the Inducted Leman Russ in a WH/DH army must be a LRBT rather than a variant, they did not clarify whether that means 0-1 tank or 0-1 tank squadrons.
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Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:23:25
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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Death By Monkeys wrote:And while they did clarify that the Inducted Leman Russ in a WH/DH army must be a LRBT rather than a variant, they did not clarify whether that means 0-1 tank or 0-1 tank squadrons.
It says you are limited to 0-1 tank, so IMO it looks like they're simply keeping the old option fully intact, so only one tank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:23:39
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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HOLY CRAP!!!! GW can write good rules and make quality FAQ's!!!!! Now if they would just do this with everyone of their FAQ's. This single work gives me hope for the future of this game. You are limited to 0-1 LRBT, not 0-1 LRBT squadron. Seems pretty clear to me.
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My 40k Theory Blog
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:24:13
Subject: Re:Guard FAQ..
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Raxmei wrote:Got the expected result on: only one heavy weapons team in infantry and veteran squads, you can't give orders in opponent's turn, hotshot lasguns aren't lasguns, hellstrikes aren't blast
Harsher than expected: ICs with Send in the Next Wave (ouch), no stacking of advisors
Not surprised: Can't multiple barrage with a mortar and Master of Ordnance, Valks can embark and disembark troops, allies FAQ
Yeah this is how I see all of them too.
Not too bad really.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:24:22
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Battleship Captain
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Polonius wrote:It says you are limited to 0-1 tank, so IMO it looks like they're simply keeping the old option fully intact, so only one tank.
Don't get me wrong, that's how I read it, too (and how I originally read it), but there are still folks out there who'll want to read it as a squadron...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:25:00
Subject: Re:Guard FAQ..
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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I had guessed as much. Most went the way I had thought. Would have liked storm troopers to get frfsrf as it would have made them more worth their points. But overall pretty happy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:25:31
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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One big bonus is that you can embark/disembark within 2" of the valks base, making the access points almost academic. It's not a huge boost, but a nice one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:26:54
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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Death By Monkeys wrote:Polonius wrote:It says you are limited to 0-1 tank, so IMO it looks like they're simply keeping the old option fully intact, so only one tank.
Don't get me wrong, that's how I read it, too (and how I originally read it), but there are still folks out there who'll want to read it as a squadron...
Those people should just be happy they get the behemouth rule and can slap plasma cannons on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:32:42
Subject: Re:Guard FAQ..
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Wow, nice GW. A very good FAQ, covered everything I could think of in a clear fashion and most of the ruling tended to be the common sense ones so they're not a pain to remember.
Dunno if someone different wrote this FAQ but if it was they need to keep the job.
As a IG player the advisors not stacking is sad, but the best for game balance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:39:43
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Ironic that Advisors don't stack, yet Autarchs do
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:40:26
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Death By Monkeys wrote:
Don't get me wrong, that's how I read it, too (and how I originally read it), but there are still folks out there who'll want to read it as a squadron...
Its how I read it, but its not really clearing anything up. Simply you cant take any variants.
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Hope more old fools come to their senses and start giving you their money instead of those Union Jack Blood suckers... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:42:57
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's funny that Autarchs stack, but IG advisors don't...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:45:50
Subject: Re:Guard FAQ..
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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Well it says only LRBT also says 0 - 1 Battle tank. Seems pretty clear to me. Both by RAW and by RAI. They are not using "old" terms, they are using "new" terms. The new wording does not say squad but tank. I doubt this was an over site, as the FAQ was well written. I would say the best they can do with out saying something like this... "one LTBT may be used, not a squadron. Did I mention only one tank?"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:45:55
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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Also note that as the list
states you are limited to 0-1 Leman Russ Battle
Tank
No one can argue about squadron, since it states a single tank, rather than saying squadron (since that 1 word ment so much to people)
All in all, its a great FAQ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:50:11
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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I like the tone on some of the rulings. For example, the question about the MoO attached to a squad with a mortar for range finding purpose: "Clearly using the mortar to range find for Basilisks dozens of miles behind the frontlines is silly"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:50:37
Subject: Re:Guard FAQ..
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Most welcome.
Covers enough for a start.
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Target locked,ready to fire
In dedicatio imperatum ultra articulo mortis.
H.B.M.C :
We were wrong. It's not the 40k End Times. It's the Trademarkening.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:51:38
Subject: Re:Guard FAQ..
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Sacramento, CA
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The biggest (imo) question they missed was the Valkyrie wings thing. They also didn't address the Furious Charging Rough Riders question, but I don't think that one is as prominent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:51:40
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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I think thats one of the most well composed FAQ's. Could this be the start of their "better FAQ support" they'd spoken about? I hope so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:53:41
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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aka_mythos wrote:I think thats one of the most well composed FAQ's. Could this be the start of their "better FAQ support" they'd spoken about? I hope so.
:crosses fingers:
Now we as a community just need to let them know that we want all the old FAQ's redone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 19:56:04
Subject: Re:Guard FAQ..
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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Well it is also possible that the IG codex was just very well written, from a RAI point of view. The FAQ and Erratta just support what was meant to happen. They did not have to "FIX" any game play oversights. Just tighten up the language they had originally written. As most of the "fixes" erred on the side of common sense. I would cast a vote for well written.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 20:02:38
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Regarding the Autarch getting it:
I think its fair. Eldar for one are more advanced, and two, they have to give up both HQ slots to do it. Two Autarch Eldar aint that great.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/03 20:10:30
Subject: Guard FAQ..
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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I think the Astropath makes sense from a game balance perspective. They had to rule the same for both Astropaths and Fleet Officers, and multiple fleet officers can be very powerful in what I call semi-competitive play. Top notch lists will work around it, but for 60pts an IG player can really stonewall a big chunk of a daemon army. In addition, there are a lot of casual play scenarios with diced reserves, and a -2 could be huge in influencing that.
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