Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/31 00:12:14
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Wraith
|
I see a fair number of threads and posts about 40k vs Fantasy and often enough it gets brought up that 40k has giant, really awesome models for Apocalypse battles and the best Fantasy has to offer are outdated dragons and a steam tank. These big models sometimes have rules to go with them, sometimes don't, but nobody can deny that they are cool. I know there are older rules like the Emperor Dragon of Amazingness that the High Elves had for Legendary Battles, but nobody plays them any more.
With that premise, what kinds of legendary constructs or creatures would you want in Fantasy, and would you/your group be willing to make rules to support it until GW releases their own rule set?
Maybe a massive steam powered, land crushing tank for the Empire that can let forth volleys of cannon blasts? Maybe an over-sized drill bit-style machine for Dwarfs that could burrow and pop like the Tyranid Mawloc, burying and dicing the unit it popped under? Maybe you want the mother of all Hydras crushing enemies of the Druchii underfoot while bellowing five fire templates of S6 destruction, whose ancient flames cause successful ward saves to be rerolled!
These are creations that you would actually consider purchasing if a company (Forgeworld, for instance) made them. We don't need to flood the thread and potentially Proposed Rules forum with random things we wouldn't actually want on our table.
Obviously as you start expanding on your creations you will spill over into the Proposed Rules forum, but that's fine! More threads with more proposed legendary creatures for us to review, comment on and build as a community! Hurray for more WHFB Forum traffic!
We have a great list growing! I don't know if any of these could be considered in their finalized form, but if their authors prefer to indicate one as finished I will notate it here!
Dark Elves - Elder Hydra
Vampire Counts - Throne of The Damned & Corpse Golem
Dark Elves - Hydra of Ancient Times
Beastmen - Tergor, The Beast God
Unaffiliated - Dragon of Ancient Times
Orcs & Goblins - Goblin Launcha
Wood Elves - Ceolmund, Wisdom of the World, Father of the Forest
Dwarfs - Titan Battlesuit
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2010/04/05 00:41:43
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/31 00:33:29
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Savage Minotaur
Chicago
|
Great idea, Kirbinator!
For Beastmen, I'd like something like just a huge Beast-God of sorts. Just a model almost twice the size of a giant, thats literally a gigantic Beast-Monster.
Thats not very creative...how about a Flying Beast-Prince. Like a daemon prince, but a beastman, with wings and all that jazz.
Hm, it much easier to come up with ideas for races than can actually build things...:/
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/31 00:42:16
Subject: Re:Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Ambitious Marauder
|
Good stuff!
FW's already underway with bigger versions of the greater Daemons as well as the Marauder Shaggoth. I guess the Orcs could get their own shaggy as well. I like the Empire "Land Ironclad" take...could be a hoot. Woodies could get a redwood-sized Ent. Rackham made an amazing huge dragon for Confrontation back in the day... FW could make one for the High Elves. I'm at a loss for the Bretonians and Beastmen...
|
"I'm gonna go build my own theme park! With blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the park!" ~ Bender Bending Rodriguez |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/31 14:33:18
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
|
Related to this- the GW Bunker near me is hosting a "Legendary" event for Fantasy in 3 weeks' time... I asked the manager what he meant by that, and he said they'll be doing things similar to Apocalypse for 40k- i.e., you can field all of your Giants as one rare choice, but deploy them separately. Sounds sort of like what you're going for here!
I'd love to see some really gargantuan models... I've longed for a humongous dragon for some time, even placing a pre-order with Heresy for theirs (but abandoning it after it's still WIP after over a year). That would definitely be a model I'd be interested in... that, and a gigantic tree
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/31 15:13:40
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Wraith
|
RiTides wrote:Related to this- the GW Bunker near me is hosting a "Legendary" event for Fantasy in 3 weeks' time... I asked the manager what he meant by that, and he said they'll be doing things similar to Apocalypse for 40k- i.e., you can field all of your Giants as one rare choice, but deploy them separately. Sounds sort of like what you're going for here!
Sounds like a fun monster brawl! I'm kind of shooting for your next part, though!
RiTides wrote:I'd love to see some really gargantuan models... I've longed for a humongous dragon for some time, even placing a pre-order with Heresy for theirs (but abandoning it after it's still WIP after over a year). That would definitely be a model I'd be interested in... that, and a gigantic tree
A gargantuan ancient dragon, dwarfing the spindly High Elf Prince's favored pet! Any particular style you'd be shooting for? Just a generic dragon? I know you have those Wood Elves so a monstrous tree-thing forest entity would fit right in!
Responding to the others, I'd love for Orcs to get a Shaggoth. I'm not sure it would be awilling participant, but I'm not really up to par on my Shaggoth fluff knowledge.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/31 16:42:10
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
|
Exactly... a dragon far beyond the normal size... and definitely Unridden, untameable...
I have moved on to wood elves, and so of course I'm partial to a monstrous tree  . The redwood comment from Xyz is right on. Give it a gigantic, thick trunk... with a large mound for a base, with roots lashing out, to go along with a spread of branches. I would definitely buy this  . For inspiration, there's the really low, but wide, trees in Africa, too... or the "tree of life" from Dragonball Z, if anyone knows what I'm talking about!
I think a massive Shaggoth would be awesome, too- but again, if it's that big I think it'd have to be like the dragon, and be unridden (an unwilling participant, as you say) but perhaps lead by hordes of goblins dragging a giant chain leading to a ring in its nose... I think we have plenty of mounted monsters, and it'd be neat to see some true "legendary level" beasts- untameable, gigantic, seemingly invincible to anything but another beast of the same scale.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/03/31 16:44:01
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/31 17:08:32
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Dangerous Skeleton Champion
Canada
|
RiTides wrote:Exactly... a dragon far beyond the normal size... and definitely Unridden, untameable...
I have moved on to wood elves, and so of course I'm partial to a monstrous tree  . The redwood comment from Xyz is right on. Give it a gigantic, thick trunk... with a large mound for a base, with roots lashing out, to go along with a spread of branches. I would definitely buy this  . For inspiration, there's the really low, but wide, trees in Africa, too... or the "tree of life" from Dragonball Z, if anyone knows what I'm talking about!
I think a massive Shaggoth would be awesome, too- but again, if it's that big I think it'd have to be like the dragon, and be unridden (an unwilling participant, as you say) but perhaps lead by hordes of goblins dragging a giant chain leading to a ring in its nose... I think we have plenty of mounted monsters, and it'd be neat to see some true "legendary level" beasts- untameable, gigantic, seemingly invincible to anything but another beast of the same scale.
The tree is called a baobab.
Also, I don't really like the idea of legendary super-creatures. They would not likely mesh well with the rest of the units, and be overpowered just like in 40k (for example, an army with an apoc unit would likely have a huge advantage over one without it). I think it should be more based around formations, and bonuses for those types of thing. Maybe even to a degree where fluffy lists are encouraged, getting bonuses that make the less-than-enticing units worthwhile.
An example might be hordes of skaven, or goblins, or something along those lines. Take x amount of units y strong and basically follow the idea of apoc formations (bonuses, special rules, etc).
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/31 17:20:22
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Ambitious Marauder
|
RiTides wrote:
I have moved on to wood elves, and so of course I'm partial to a monstrous tree  . The redwood comment from Xyz is right on. Give it a gigantic, thick trunk... with a large mound for a base, with roots lashing out, to go along with a spread of branches. I would definitely buy this  . For inspiration, there's the really low, but wide, trees in Africa, too... or the "tree of life" from Dragonball Z, if anyone knows what I'm talking about!
Heh...load the thing up with a load of archers like some Swiss Family Robinson porcupine hybrid. It doesn't neccessarily need to fight, per se...just strut about and make a cloud of arrows a turn...
|
"I'm gonna go build my own theme park! With blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the park!" ~ Bender Bending Rodriguez |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/31 18:04:21
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Wraith
|
ssREV wrote:I don't really like the idea of legendary super-creatures. They would not likely mesh well with the rest of the units, and be overpowered just like in 40k (for example, an army with an apoc unit would likely have a huge advantage over one without it). I think it should be more based around formations, and bonuses for those types of thing. Maybe even to a degree where fluffy lists are encouraged, getting bonuses that make the less-than-enticing units worthwhile.
An example might be hordes of skaven, or goblins, or something along those lines. Take x amount of units y strong and basically follow the idea of apoc formations (bonuses, special rules, etc).
Current Apoc models are far from overpowered in many cases. A Reaver Titan goes down easy when a 10-man unit or two of Eldar Fire Dragons show up and unload melta-death. It really isn't all that difficult to do since a Wave Serpent can move flat out 36" with the Star Engine upgrade and that unit is far, far cheaper than a Reaver or a Stompa. I understand your position though, so anyone making rules for these things would definitely require balance to be considered.
Formations would be pretty darn cool, but I'm not sure if your examples of units are particularly considered "less-than-enticing". People playing Skaven and Goblins already do bring more blocked infantry than most armies, but formation or movement bonuses for RnF reaching a certain massive size would be nice. Could even have extra distance on overrun due to the weight of numbers barreling them forward.
RiTides wrote:I think we have plenty of mounted monsters, and it'd be neat to see some true "legendary level" beasts- untameable, gigantic, seemingly invincible to anything but another beast of the same scale.
That would be supremely awesome, but only for certain armies I think. High Elves have too much of a bond with dragonkin to have an untamed beast ravaging about in a battle for the capital. Dark Elves, on the other hand, specialize in finding a huge, barely controlled beast and pointing it in the right direction (Hydra, Manticore).
Having a gigantic mutant creature just as likely to rip its own masters a new one fits right up the ally of Skaven. Imagine some Moulder masters on the HPA projects decided to take it a few steps further, even sacrificing some of their own to the project in order to give it a semblance of intelligence! I don't think I'd personally purchase a massive mutant rat creation and someone would probably be better served by making a suitably-sized HPA for the current Skaven players!
So far on the list of cool things we want on the table: Dragon of Doom, Tree-thing of Hugeness, Mega Beastlord creature, massive Shaggoth, and my own Ancient Hydra (complete with battle scars long since regenerated, maybe a burned off head stump).
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/31 18:19:41
Subject: Re:Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Master of the Hunt
|
I think ssREV has an excellent idea. I believe some of the attraction for me to a legendary battle is the sheer amount of troops that would be involved. I still think legendary constructs and creatures can have a role, but also believe they should not take over the entire battle. Maybe it could be a group of monsters like RiTides mentioned, like a flight of dragons, a coven of witches, or another group of mighty monsters making mayhem  for the weak. I just don't want it to a fight between one giant monster against one giant tank or other monster. Don't get me wrong I like monsters as much as the next guy, I just don't want the rest of the army to be there just for fodder. Ahhh who am I kidding. The other part of the attraction to "legendary" battles is the epic battle between the nastiest monster and most heroic character.
My ideas for legendary creatures would be Godzilla (the cool one, not the giant dinosaur) or Tiamat. How about a giant, regenerating bloodthirster with 4 arms and 2 heads. I like the idea of a giant drill for the dwarfs or a giant rock golem. The mother of all tanks for the empire is good too. Maybe a giant beholder or lichdragon.
Beats the hell out of me, I am just rambling now.
|
dwarfs, wood elves, dark elves, bretonnians, WOC,
space wolves, orks, eldar |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/31 19:21:52
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
|
Some kind of huge construction for dwarves would be very cool... I'm thinking of the gigantic drill that appears at the end of "The Incredibles". Something the dwarves use to mine out passages in the bowels of mountains... and then turn on their enemies when they make a last stand in the mines.
Having a burned-off head stump on a massive hydra is a great idea! It would help show the age of the creature... and you're right about the high elves not permitting a savage dragon, that would be something more fitting for their darker brethren.
I would not be interested in a giant HPA. I can't imagine the look on my wife's face if I were to buy one of those  . Disgusting! But very in-character for skaven, of course!
There's a thread in News & Rumor talking about the possibility of forgeworld doing something like this here. Is that what inspired this, Kirbinator? Anything we could do to nudge them (or another company) into action about actually making some things for fantasy would be awesome...
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/31 20:20:24
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Wraith
|
RiTides wrote:There's a thread in News & Rumor talking about the possibility of forgeworld doing something like this here. Is that what inspired this, Kirbinator? Anything we could do to nudge them (or another company) into action about actually making some things for fantasy would be awesome...
Actually, I completely overlooked that thread! It's a good read, though, and glad Forgeworld is getting into the action! I'm all for nudging any company to start making Fantasy goodies, even if they aren't super-huge, just having something new and different is always nice to me! I think many companies could do such things, but they are unsure of the market for it since we're pretty niche already.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/31 20:56:30
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
|
A good idea for a company thinking of doing this, would be to start with a model that could be used for multiple armies, depending on what head/limb/etc were used.
The "Mega Beastlord creature" idea above would be good for this, since you could use it for Beastmen, WoC, and even convert for other uses (perhaps O&G... basically, any army that can currently take a giant).
The tree is a little more mono-army in scope, but I'd love them forever for it
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/03/31 20:57:12
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 06:33:28
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
|
How about a huge sentient forest for the woodies? 6-12inches by 3-6inches? m2? counts as a forest and 20 dryads? (Just throwing ideas around)
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/01 06:33:56
skarboy wrote:People got tired of winning or having more than one useful choice per force org slot, so Necrons upticked in popularity.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 15:18:09
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
|
That's kind of cool. I think there's some scope for massive engines of war- like in the latest siege of Middenheim, the defenders had a massive, massive cannon that needed a giant to load it.
Frankly, I think most of the special characters should only be showing up in legendary battles. Malekith? The Dwarf High King? The Emperor? Are they really going to take the field for an engagement supported by 4 or 5 blocks of their own troops?
RZ
|
“It was in lands of the Chi-An where she finally ran him to ground. There she kissed him deeply as he lay dying, and so stole from him his last, agonized breath.
On a delicate chain at her throat, she keeps it with her to this day.”
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 15:38:04
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Noble of the Alter Kindred
United Kingdom
|
Nah
would prefer none. It just keeps upping the ante
Was even a tad disappointed to see the rat exercise wheel for the skaven.
Steam tanks and the like don't fit in a fantasy world imho. Leave it for steampunk
Apart from which I couldn't afford them, break out the rebecs and violas
Having said that what about Humbaba, Lord of the Beasts based on the giant in the Gilgamesh story. Who also pops up in the Athurian Owein story. Might do for a mightly beast lord/god. He bangs the earth with his mighty club and all the beasts appear and bow before him iirc
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 17:59:35
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Wraith
|
Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:would prefer none. It just keeps upping the ante Was even a tad disappointed to see the rat exercise wheel for the skaven. Steam tanks and the like don't fit in a fantasy world imho. Leave it for steampunk While I can certainly respect that it is your opinion, I'm not quite sure I follow it. The Warhammer Fantasy world is not set in Arthurian Early Medieval lore, though similar in many regards. It is a world of ingenuity and technology from its respective armies and armies such as Skaven, Dwarfs and the Empire have been long known for having "advanced" technologies such as war machines and vehicles. Dwarves have personal helicopters for instance! Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Having said that what about Humbaba, Lord of the Beasts based on the giant in the Gilgamesh story. Who also pops up in the Athurian Owein story. Might do for a mightly beast lord/god. He bangs the earth with his mighty club and all the beasts appear and bow before him iirc Seems to be quite a calling for a beast lord according to this thread! So with these creatures we've devised, would we be open to actually making rules for them until GW makes their own? I think I'll get started on my Ancient Hydra today and post something over in the Proposed Rules areas. Who knows, maybe GW will take notice and ste-... be inspired by our ideas.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/01 17:59:52
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 18:24:20
Subject: Re:Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
|
Dwarves should get some kind of giant walking robot. About dreadnought sized, maybe a bit larger. I believe CD already have something similar so it isn't much of a stretch.
Warriors of chaos should get a giant chaos alter pulled by slaves.
Oh and I almost forgot Rhinox cavalry and a mamoth are musts for ogres.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 18:39:53
Subject: Re:Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Noble of the Alter Kindred
United Kingdom
|
While I can certainly respect that it is your opinion, I'm not quite sure I follow it. The Warhammer Fantasy world is not set in Arthurian Early Medieval lore, though similar in many regards. It is a world of ingenuity and technology from its respective armies and armies such as Skaven, Dwarfs and the Empire have been long known for having "advanced" technologies such as war machines and vehicles. Dwarves have personal helicopters for instance!
I acknowledge that the problem is wholly due to my preconceptions of what fantasy entails largely having been formed by reading by Mallory, Tolkein and Beowulf
The world of Empire is more of a Renaissance design, and therefore Da Vinciesque contraptions are appropriate . But Dwarves with gyrocopters is in my non post modern mind wholly idyosyncratic Even Dwarves with guns came as a bit of a surprise!
But given the Dwarvish mind in WHFB I guess it is understandable
ps
one thing I would like to see with such contraptions is a test roll - which may already be part of the rules?
So that it could fall apart/blows up due to too much steam pressure on a 1
miss a turn due to the operator needing to hit it with a hammer to get it started again on a 2
this sort of thing adds a lot of fun imho
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/01 18:44:26
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 19:22:23
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
RiTides wrote:Related to this- the GW Bunker near me is hosting a "Legendary" event for Fantasy in 3 weeks' time... I asked the manager what he meant by that, and he said they'll be doing things similar to Apocalypse for 40k- i.e., you can field all of your Giants as one rare choice, but deploy them separately. Sounds sort of like what you're going for here! What he means is that they're probably using the Legendary Battles Rules published in WD(and on their website) that was meant to be "Fantasy Apocalypse". It allows you to bring a grouping of similar monsters or warmachines as a single entry in the Org chart. IE. 6 Cannons or Giants as a single Special/Rare slot respectively. It also has rules for allied contingents within an army as well as an allies matrix telling you which you could bring. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=cat210002&categoryId=500004§ion=&aId=6500003 Might wanna read up on the rules.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/01 19:22:51
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 19:53:52
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Savage Minotaur
Chicago
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 22:40:03
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Deadly Tomb Guard
South Carolina
|
I got a Idea for a beastial dragon and ginormus treeman.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/02 17:36:58
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
|
Thanks for the link, Platuan4th! I've saved it and will read through it more later... that was definitely what he was talking about.
I'm going to head over to the proposed rules section to see the "Beast God" and hopefully Anicent Hydra... and I might put up some rules for some kind of gigantic tree (with a catchy name). Feel free to post up first or add to it, sevend3f and nieto666- the more ideas the better
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/02 18:06:45
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Beast Lord
|
a Orc Seige Engine that is carried by Goblins. Take the Seige towerr that is used as scenery. make it 3 times the size, carried by goblins and covered in Orc Arrer Boyz, and Goblin Spear Chukkas. Automatically Appended Next Post: or how about a giant cannon that shoots Goblin Skirmishers. on a 4-5 they land on their feet on that turn on a 1 they get over shot on a 2-3 you roll scatter dice. if it rolls a hit they count as a single s6 hit on a single model. on a 6 they can charge on the same turn as they land and gain +1 to their strength due to the ridiculous amount of WAAAGH! they just experienced.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/02 20:06:36
Death be not proud,
Though some may call thee mighty and dreadful,
For thou art not so...
DT:80+S++GMB++IPwhfb09#-D+A+/hWD-R+T(M)DM+ |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/02 22:16:53
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
If I could field a massive leviathan in WFB, I would do so!
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/02 22:21:52
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Feldwebel
|
How about a Coatl, from the Lizardmen artwork?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/02 22:38:50
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Noble of the Alter Kindred
United Kingdom
|
How would you field a Leviathan please John?
I thought it was a very big sea monster.
A Behemoth perhaps?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/02 23:09:57
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Yes, a Leviathan has roots in sea monsters. For a Leviathan, I'd start with a Trygon, add a few sets of Gargoyle / Dragon wings, and extra claws. Probably extend the body / tail as well. A Behemoth beast would also be fun, though there aren't as many good plastic whatnots of appropriate size to build from. At that rate, I'd probably be GSing a He-Man figure of some sort. Rules-wise, I think I'd probably look at the FW Greater Daemons as a starting point, count-as Bloodthirster.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/02 23:11:36
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/03 01:04:09
Subject: Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
|
I just love the word "Leviathan". It's worth it just for that...
Hey, tree people! Post your ideas over in the proposed rules thread I've started for "Father of the Forest" (needs a name to go with the title).
Link
It's also a poll showing three models I'm considering... please give me your input  and post any rules you've come up with for a gigantic tree!
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/03 02:39:00
Subject: Re:Fantasy Legendary Battles Constructs & Creatures
|
 |
Noble of the Alter Kindred
United Kingdom
|
Okay please bear with me for naming the Giant Tree
A while ago I worked with someone who created a sculpture in Chelmsley Wood. Mike Dames has written several books about the old Gods and places.
According to Michael, the name Chelmsley was derived from a local Saxon Forest God, a giant called Ceolmund. Nearby runs the River Cole and Coleshill. He may be a source of the Old King Cole of nursery rhyme.
Coll is a Celtic word for hazel- or wisdom
Mund latin meaning world
so you have the Wisdom of the World! Not bad for an huge venerable tree god
Apologies in advance if the idea is pants and my word play unbearable
|
|
|
 |
 |
|