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I really hate som of the popular music around today that are for teen. Tunes and stuff like that are mostly good for dancing.
But the lyrics and videos are just WOW. Has feminism done really this little?
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Those songs are about getting drunk and having sex. and treating women like objects.
Acording to some people who went to junior prom at my school the place was filled with songs like that.
Why would the school even consent to that.
What does dakka think?
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garret wrote:I is not about that. It about sending the wrong message to women.
Hmmm, I suppose I can agree that if referanced to "a young girl" (8-15) this isn't apropreiate.
However,in the larger picture,pfft...this sort of thing is no better/worse than the "millions" of "messages" dericted at women every day via advertising/magazines/entertainment...or for that matter,dericted at men.
There is a lot of "crap" in the world,it's up to the individule to decide if they want to watch/participate/belive it.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Whatever, chicks were just as freaky in the roaring 20's and free loving 70's just ask Frazz, he ws there for both. Nobody is forcing girls to do anything. In fact groupies have been doing this since the 80's glam rock days. As for music. It's more about how hot the singer looks, thinks to TV and music videos. If you want good music, type in Underground rap /rock and pick a cd. or tune in to your local crazy college radio station. If you are to lazy for that then...
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And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.
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Well, hardcore here is just utter rubbish. Actually.. I think that about most pure electronic music. It's all just 5 seconds of music pretty much on repeat... with the random intermission. Theres always an intermission.
Rap isn't musing either if you ask me, but yea... personal taste it is I guess...
Well dance music is the cure to this issue in my mind. Or at least one option. For one most dance music is made by skint late teens early twenties who are bellow trying to sell their product to the masses and instead are most probably trying to atract the attention of a dj so they can get their record played in nightclubs, on the radio etc. So the music is generally the primary selling point of the product, rather than sex.
Well, I haven't stuck to a single genre in years. I pretty much just listen what I like at a certain time, for instance, lately, I've been listening a lot to the Gorillaz. Before that, Imogen Heap.
Right now I'm listening to Machine Head. Inconsistency ftw.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
I listen to music like the ones you posted. I'm a junior in highschool at the moment, and our Prom is this weekend. I've already had a look at the playlist, and as you said, music such as this is very prominent.
Something you have to understand is that teen culture is changing rapidly. Whether it's for the better is questionable, but music like this is the norm, so schools don't exactly think much about it (and I go to a Catholic High School). Teens have been getting drunk, having sex, and doing drugs since God knows when; this music isn't going to and hasn't changed or adversely affected that. And sending the wrong messages to women? Alot of girls at my school listen to this kind of music, but they aren't any more slutty than girls that listen to other genres. There are always going to be slutty girls; that's just the way it is. There's always that girl that sleeps around. Somehow I doubt that mainstream music is affecting that. I have enough faith that women are intelligent enough to not base their morals on what they hear in music.
Like I said, I listen to this music because it's got a good beat, is good to dance to, and I personally enjoy it. If you don't, that's okay, everyone has their own taste in music. For instance, I listen to this stuff, but I also listen to Death Metal, Rock, Hardcore, Techno, and even some (SOME) Country.
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I get the impression that the song Tik Tok is meant to be taken as a joke, but that's just me.
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if you are at a venue where you dance.
I fail to understand the point of it outside that context.
Unless it is being pumped out of some dudes carsystem that is more poweful than the car in which it is installed.
In which case the purpose is to cause tinnitus in later life.
also make sure you wear a vest and eat properly
I just hate a lot of modern music. I prefer listening to classics instead of a bunch of teenage wannabes who will crash and burn at the age twenty-five.
Wait, what? You mean this is discussing the references in music? Oh, Ok. In that case, I agree. A lot of female artists today seem to care less about whether a song is good or not, because in their heads it seems all that is going on is "Right, so I'm making the film clip. SHould I wear almost nothing, or really slutty clothes?"
It is just sad really, that they seem to lack confidence in their music, and attract viewers by the clothes. But don't mind me, I got lost in the first half of my rant.
garret wrote:Those songs are about getting drunk and having sex. and treating women like objects.
Acording to some people who went to junior prom at my school the place was filled with songs like that.
Why would the school even consent to that.
What does dakka think?
The sentence itself sounds like what the average male's fantasize about doesnt it?
Thats what makes those songs appealing, its singing out their fantasies.
Now days everything we want are in excess , excess violence, blood and gore and sex.
Geez we'll spawn Slanesh pretty soon like this...
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