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This is another one of mine what if scenario's. Okay, what if a cache of 21st century weapons were found deep under ground on Terra, what will be the Imperiams/Mechanicus reaction to this discovery of ancient technology?

"Brother Artemis, did you forget to take out the trash?"

"Look, Autoguns! ... How quaint."

Complete embarrassment at the effeminate cuteness of the material in question...

Oh look another thermonuclear device...Say, is there still enough ammo/fuel for the battle tanks?

Ah, so that's how we can build a tank without turning it into a deathtrap...

KingDeath wrote:Ah, so that's how we can build a tank without turning it into a deathtrap...

Recent events in the world say that we have a pretty similar record on this front to the IoM.

pretre wrote:

KingDeath wrote:Ah, so that's how we can build a tank without turning it into a deathtrap...

Recent events in the world say that we have a pretty similar record on this front to the IoM.

You mean, we build our military vehicles in the most absurd, impractical form possible? Well, that's new to me.

KingDeath wrote:You mean, we build our military vehicles in the most absurd, impractical form possible? Well, that's new to me.

No, I meant that in modern combat situations some of our APCs are deathtraps.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Oh look another thermonuclear device...Say, is there still enough ammo/fuel for the battle tanks?

Yes! The armory is for whatever reason is extremely well built and is mostly intact.

I think we can all agree that a Rhino will damn well outclass a humvee. And as per the OP's question, they would reverse engineer them, figure out their pieces of gak and burn them

TheAngrySquig wrote:I think we can all agree that a Rhino will damn well outclass a humvee. And as per the OP's question, they would reverse engineer them, figure out their pieces of gak and burn them

Just letting you know....

TheAngrySquig wrote:I think we can all agree that a Rhino will damn well outclass a humvee. And as per the OP's question, they would reverse engineer them, figure out their pieces of gak and burn them

Without a doubt, seeing as how a HMMWV is not an apc. Just to let you know. Its like saying a bradley ifv out classes a pick up.

As for the cache, the imperium will probually put it in a museum. Its neat, but way outdated, like how we have ancient arms and armor in museums. Imperial Tech is way more advanced then ours. In every aspect. The only thing that maybe close is computers. But i doubt it.

I don't know, I think that Metal Storm's million rounds per minute weapon system would be worth looking into as well as some of the massive sniper rifles/sniper prototypes like say South Africa's NTW-20 or the XM-109. And they could definitely do with low profile tanks.

Metal Storm

NTW-20


XM-109

Honestly, UAV's would be quite useful for the Imperium and every armed faction in it.

xxmatt85 wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Oh look another thermonuclear device...Say, is there still enough ammo/fuel for the battle tanks?

Yes! The armory is for whatever reason is extremely well built and is mostly intact.

I was talking about the imperial battle tanks


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Harriticus wrote:Honestly, UAV's would be quite useful for the Imperium and every armed faction in it.

Nah, the Mechanicus will prolly see it as tech-heresy, and order their advanced software destroyed. They'll then tinker with it ,and voila, you have a barely functional flying toyplane!

Aren't there still museums with this stuff? And doesn't most of the of the Terran underground replicate 21st century weapons for use?

King Pariah wrote:I don't know, I think that Metal Storm's million rounds per minute weapon system would be worth looking into as well as some of the massive sniper rifles/sniper prototypes like say South Africa's NTW-20 or the XM-109. And they could definitely do with low profile tanks.

Metal Storm

Hell's Bells, what is that thing? A gun turret?

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

King Pariah wrote:I don't know, I think that Metal Storm's million rounds per minute weapon system would be worth looking into as well as some of the massive sniper rifles/sniper prototypes like say South Africa's NTW-20 or the XM-109. And they could definitely do with low profile tanks.

Metal Storm

Hell's Bells, what is that thing? A gun turret?

Metal Storm, capable of a million rounds per minute. Now tell me that the Imperium and Ad Mech wouldn't look into that!

Yes, but what does it do? Does it go on a tank?

Amasing. Something crappier then the Lasgun.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Yes, but what does it do? Does it go on a tank?

It' has versatile usage and comes in varying sizes, it could go on a tank, a ship, or even a Humvee, could be used for annihilating an incoming missile, RPG, or shell. In 40k where there isn't a Geneva Convention, it could mow down columns upon columns of whatever happens to be charging them. A little reverse engineering by the Ad Mech, some sci fi tweaking, voila! screw autocannons, use this baby!

Oh, I'd like to point out that the NTW-20 is a 20mm sniper/anti-material rifle in current use by South Africa and a 14mm variant is used by Russia. And for those who know your calibers, that's much bigger than a .50 cal which is a 12.7mm round. The XM-109 is pretty much a 25mm grenade launcher (can fire HE rounds), with a scope, and is accurate up to ranges of 2.3-2.5 miles.

King Pariah wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Yes, but what does it do? Does it go on a tank?

It' has versatile usage and comes in varying sizes, it could go on a tank, a ship, or even a Humvee, could be used for annihilating an incoming missile, RPG, or shell. In 40k where there isn't a Geneva Convention, it could mow down columns upon columns of whatever happens to be charging them. A little reverse engineering by the Ad Mech, some sci fi tweaking, voila! screw autocannons, use this baby!

Or...imagine what would happen if it fired bolts...or canisters full of plasma!

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

King Pariah wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Yes, but what does it do? Does it go on a tank?

It' has versatile usage and comes in varying sizes, it could go on a tank, a ship, or even a Humvee, could be used for annihilating an incoming missile, RPG, or shell. In 40k where there isn't a Geneva Convention, it could mow down columns upon columns of whatever happens to be charging them. A little reverse engineering by the Ad Mech, some sci fi tweaking, voila! screw autocannons, use this baby!

Or...imagine what would happen if it fired bolts...or canisters full of plasma!

GENIUS!

King Pariah wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

King Pariah wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Yes, but what does it do? Does it go on a tank?

It' has versatile usage and comes in varying sizes, it could go on a tank, a ship, or even a Humvee, could be used for annihilating an incoming missile, RPG, or shell. In 40k where there isn't a Geneva Convention, it could mow down columns upon columns of whatever happens to be charging them. A little reverse engineering by the Ad Mech, some sci fi tweaking, voila! screw autocannons, use this baby!

Or...imagine what would happen if it fired bolts...or canisters full of plasma!

GENIUS!

*suicidal

xxmatt85 wrote:This is another one of mine what if scenario's. Okay, what if a cache of 21st century weapons were found deep under ground on Terra, what will be the Imperiams/Mechanicus reaction to this discovery of ancient technology?

Dude are you serious?

In a age of plasma and laser weaponry, with basic weapons that can fire mini rockets and explode on impact, star ships, super heavy tanks why the hell do they need our crappy weapons?
They have EVERYTHING superior to us, even their Lasgun ( one of the most weak weapons in the universe ) is more powerful then any of our modern assault rifles.


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King Pariah wrote:I don't know, I think that Metal Storm's million rounds per minute weapon system would be worth looking into as well as some of the massive sniper rifles/sniper prototypes like say South Africa's NTW-20 or the XM-109. And they could definitely do with low profile tanks.

Ever heard about Lascannons and Multilasers?
Or did you ever saw how big Space Marine sniper rifle is?

purplefood wrote:

King Pariah wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

King Pariah wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Yes, but what does it do? Does it go on a tank?

It' has versatile usage and comes in varying sizes, it could go on a tank, a ship, or even a Humvee, could be used for annihilating an incoming missile, RPG, or shell. In 40k where there isn't a Geneva Convention, it could mow down columns upon columns of whatever happens to be charging them. A little reverse engineering by the Ad Mech, some sci fi tweaking, voila! screw autocannons, use this baby!

Or...imagine what would happen if it fired bolts...or canisters full of plasma!

GENIUS!

*suicidal

This is the IoM we are talking about. If it kills 10x more of the enemy than of their own, it's considered a fair trade.

King Pariah wrote:
Metal Storm, capable of a million rounds per minute. Now tell me that the Imperium and Ad Mech wouldn't look into that!

They already have Heavy Bolter turrets that are more powerful even if they fire less ammunition.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

purplefood wrote:

King Pariah wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

King Pariah wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Yes, but what does it do? Does it go on a tank?

It' has versatile usage and comes in varying sizes, it could go on a tank, a ship, or even a Humvee, could be used for annihilating an incoming missile, RPG, or shell. In 40k where there isn't a Geneva Convention, it could mow down columns upon columns of whatever happens to be charging them. A little reverse engineering by the Ad Mech, some sci fi tweaking, voila! screw autocannons, use this baby!

Or...imagine what would happen if it fired bolts...or canisters full of plasma!

GENIUS!

*suicidal

This is the IoM we are talking about. If it kills 10x more of the enemy than of their own, it's considered a fair trade.

It probably wouldn't get that far...
Overheating would be a colossal and fatal problem.

Brother Coa wrote:

King Pariah wrote:I don't know, I think that Metal Storm's million rounds per minute weapon system would be worth looking into as well as some of the massive sniper rifles/sniper prototypes like say South Africa's NTW-20 or the XM-109. And they could definitely do with low profile tanks.

Ever heard about Lascannons and Multilasers?
Or did you ever saw how big Space Marine sniper rifle is?

Do you ever think outside of space marines? I don't know, like what could be used by the IG? These weapons I posted are operable by humans like you and I, well, I don't know about you.


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purplefood wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

purplefood wrote:

King Pariah wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

King Pariah wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Yes, but what does it do? Does it go on a tank?

It' has versatile usage and comes in varying sizes, it could go on a tank, a ship, or even a Humvee, could be used for annihilating an incoming missile, RPG, or shell. In 40k where there isn't a Geneva Convention, it could mow down columns upon columns of whatever happens to be charging them. A little reverse engineering by the Ad Mech, some sci fi tweaking, voila! screw autocannons, use this baby!

Or...imagine what would happen if it fired bolts...or canisters full of plasma!

GENIUS!

*suicidal

This is the IoM we are talking about. If it kills 10x more of the enemy than of their own, it's considered a fair trade.

It probably wouldn't get that far...
Overheating would be a colossal and fatal problem.

Overheating isn't that huge of an issue with Metal Storm (nor is maintenance) as it has NO moving parts.