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AtoMaki wrote:

King Pariah wrote:
Guess you could call it that though it can also take out armor (Though it's better if the armor happens to be within 1.5 miles), make short work of small structures/rooms and whoever happens to be inside. It all depends on what the round you fire is whether it be HE, AP, Air Fragmentation, etc.

Just like boltgun special ammo. And a boltgun ammo that rolls 2D6 for armour penetration would be neat (and OP like hell) .

Turbo-Penetrator rounds used to roll 3d6 for armor pen. I think it was changed for the newest codices, though.

Rabtorian wrote:Just thinking that the Imperium would definitely mount a varient of a 40k'd Metal Storm on a titan. Then it could fire a million room sized projectiles a minute and simply, casually bring about the destruction of entire armies.

CoughcoughVulcanmegabolterCoughcough.

DoctorZombie wrote:

Bobthehero wrote:

King Pariah wrote:I some of the massive sniper rifles/sniper prototypes like say
XM-109

This gun...
Must... obtain... unlimited power... handcanon...
*violent twitching*

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What civilian needs a sniper rifle that powerful? I'd take a 75$ surplus Mosin-Nagant over that any day...

I don't intend to remain a civilian for a long time.

And it was said in a jokingly tone... but I amazed by how far you can shoot man portable weapons now.

The longest range confirmed kill was scored by a Marine Pvt Hancock with an .50 M2 Browning at 2.5 mikles I believe with a Manportable weapon. otherwise it'd be an ICBM

Wasn't it 2.5 Kilometers, the range of the XM-109 is 2.2 miles, thats a good difference between both of them.

McNinja wrote:

AtoMaki wrote:

King Pariah wrote:
Guess you could call it that though it can also take out armor (Though it's better if the armor happens to be within 1.5 miles), make short work of small structures/rooms and whoever happens to be inside. It all depends on what the round you fire is whether it be HE, AP, Air Fragmentation, etc.

Just like boltgun special ammo. And a boltgun ammo that rolls 2D6 for armour penetration would be neat (and OP like hell) .

Turbo-Penetrator rounds used to roll 3d6 for armor pen. I think it was changed for the newest codices, though.

Yeah, its 4d6 now IIRC

Again, it's not about how killy it is, nor is it all about da Dakka', it's about how reliable and how easy to use and fix it is.

The weapons you are listing, would not stay at operational quality in the Grimdark Toilet that is the future for 10 minutes.

Bobthehero wrote:Wasn't it 2.5 Kilometers, the range of the XM-109 is aparently 2.5 miles, thats a good difference between both of them.

No, I was wrong and corrected myself earlier, it's 2.2 miles for the XM-109

2.2 miles is still about 1.6x longer than 2.5 km.

Bobthehero wrote:2.2 miles is still about 1.6x longer than 2.5 km.

I know, I was just trying to stop flak from flying my way if anyone did research and found out that my memory had everestimated the range of the XM-109

I see, I'll edit that in my post as well.

The Metal Storm thing is already in use by the Imperium, you just tend to find them mounted on starships as point-defense turrets. They use them to destroy incoming torpedoes and enemy assault craft.

None of those sniper rifles hold a candle to an Exitus Rifle carried by the Vindicare (though it's obvious that these real-world rifles are the inspiration thereof). The MP lascannon is a sniper rifle used to destroy tanks, or anything smaller. MP stands for Man-Portable. RL snipers work in teams, too. One man with the rifle, another man to act as his spotter and identify targets, provide range-to-target and angle-to-target. Without a spotter, a sniper's view through his scope does not offer a wide enough view-angle to quickly acquire the next target. With a spotter using binoculars, he's told where to point the rifle next, and doesn't need to pull away from the scope.

Drones already exist and are in use in the Imperium. Gun-skulls are probably the most famous of such devices. They're also smaller and harder to target than a UAV, too, being only the size of a human head.

Any modern assault rifle is an auto-gun. No real substantive difference in their function or operation. Also inferior to a las-gun because of their need to carry physical ammunition in a staggering variety of calibers. Further inferior because you can't reload them by plugging the magazine into a wall-socket, or a campfire.

Almost anything else has its own analog in the Imperium's arsenal. Grenades, launchers, missiles, anti-missile defense systems... we're also not given a lot of specifics on various armaments in the Imperium as to their ECM/ECCM capabilities. I know the US Army was testing, some years back, a backpack device that generated a cone of electro-magnetic signals in an upward cone above the platoon carrying it, intended to cause incoming mortar rounds to detonate in the air, rather than the ground. It may be possible that, in the 41st millennium, mortar rounds are proof against such devices, making such a tool useless.

The technology we have today that might be of interest to the AdMech probably lies in our video imaging and pic-capture devices. Plasma screens, LCD monitors, digital cameras, and so forth and so on. All of the viewscreens in the Imperium seem to be based on the green-and-black CRTs of the early 1980s.

Psienesis wrote:intended to cause incoming mortar rounds to detonate in the air, rather than the ground. It may be possible that, in the 41st millennium, mortar rounds are proof against such devices, making such a tool useless.

Most mortars/artillery rounds already detonate in the air. It actually does more damage that way.

Alexzandvar wrote:My question of the whole idea of the "Metal Storm" Is why in gods name would the Imperium make the hard task of supplying ammunition to every little tiny pocket of the galaxy even more difficult when they have weapons that can be recharged by fire? Sunlight? Basic Heat?

Mortars, heavy bolters, flamers, plasma guns, bolt pistols, all tank mounted weapons and missile launchers.
These do not recharge by sunlight or heat.
The Imperium already ships solid slug ammo for these weapons, if the metal storm fired HB rounds then you wouldn't even need to add a new type of ammo. We aren't suggesting giving it to every single soldier in the Guard but as a viable alternative to a heavy weapons team or even something that combat engineers set up to aid in a defense/large assault...

xxmatt85 wrote:This is another one of mine what if scenario's. Okay, what if a cache of 21st century weapons were found deep under ground on Terra, what will be the Imperiams/Mechanicus reaction to this discovery of ancient technology?

"Hey look i found a bunch of my old toys !"