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Well all the models show they do not. they are bear chested(or nearly) most of the time. But on all the models no armor what so ever.

Their muscles are huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge!

You don't need armor when you have huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge muscles.

Bookwrack wrote:Their muscles are huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge!

You don't need armor when you have huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge muscles.

Well the Tyranids are doing something very wrong now then aren't they? I mean if thier gaunts have carapace plates for armour that is a waste of resources then when they should growing muscles instead, to get the same armour save. No wonder the Cruddance Codex sucks.

They are so hardcore they have no need for armor that is fairly useless with the amount of melta and lascannons out there...

Imagine Rambo, and how crap he'd look with armour.
These guys are basically an army of mini-Rambos.

Because if your muscles are big enough, bullets bounce off.

Because it would look silly and go against the theme they are trying to make. Mordians, Tallarn, and about half of the Vostroyans also don't wear armor. It's all cosmetic.

-cgmckenzie

besides. armor is for chumps. also... wondering what a bear chested guy would look like... feth the lazgun, ill just maul him with my bear chest!


(i think you meant "bare" chest)

Because armor is useless in Jungle warfare? They are usually fighting in jungle so there have little use of armor there.

Only Matt Ward is putting Catachans into scenarios other then jungle.

Brother Coa wrote:Because armor is useless in Jungle warfare? They are usually fighting in jungle so there have little use of armor there.

Only Matt Ward is putting Catachans into scenarios other then jungle.

I don't get that...
At any rate although Catachan Jungle Fighters will mostly be deployed to jungle regions they don't always fight in jungles...

armor is for panzies. Thats why.

Catachans don't wear armor because they scare bullets to death before they hit them.

You ever tried walking or let alone figthing with body armour in a jingle enviorment? Well needles to say its pretty much useless for them

purplefood wrote:
I don't get that...
At any rate although Catachan Jungle Fighters will mostly be deployed to jungle regions they don't always fight in jungles...

1. Because Commando is a great movie
2. Because Predator is a great movie
3. Because Platoon is a great movie
4. Because Rambo is a great series of movies
5. Because they're just that manly

Trondheim wrote:You ever tried walking or let alone figthing with body armour in a jingle enviorment? Well needles to say its pretty much useless for them

Jingle environment? does that involve santa?

Brother Coa wrote:

purplefood wrote:
I don't get that...
At any rate although Catachan Jungle Fighters will mostly be deployed to jungle regions they don't always fight in jungles...

He is right, In "The LAst Ditch" Cain says while that administratum tries to make it so certain armies are used in certain places, its usually comes down to who is closes to the planet.

hotsauceman1 wrote:
He is right, In "The LAst Ditch" Cain says while that administratum tries to make it so certain armies are used in certain places, its usually comes down to who is closes to the planet.

The problem is that in Necron codex they were using Catachans to defend a Hive World.
You don't send a jungle fighters into a city fight, for that you need siege army like Krieg. And as I understand Imperium had time to prepare defense, they could call anyone else and they called a Catachans...
That is like using Cadian Regiment to purge world of Daemonic incursions, simply not fitted for that role.

Brother Coa wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:
He is right, In "The LAst Ditch" Cain says while that administratum tries to make it so certain armies are used in certain places, its usually comes down to who is closes to the planet.

The problem is that in Necron codex they were using Catachans to defend a Hive World.
You don't send a jungle fighters into a city fight, for that you need siege army like Krieg. And as I understand Imperium had time to prepare defense, they could call anyone else and they called a Catachans...
That is like using Cadian Regiment to purge world of Daemonic incursions, simply not fitted for that role.

No IG regiment is.
The point was that the Catachan Jungle Fighters don't always fight in the jungle...
They do when there is a jungle around but otherwise they don't...

purplefood wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:
He is right, In "The LAst Ditch" Cain says while that administratum tries to make it so certain armies are used in certain places, its usually comes down to who is closes to the planet.

The problem is that in Necron codex they were using Catachans to defend a Hive World.
You don't send a jungle fighters into a city fight, for that you need siege army like Krieg. And as I understand Imperium had time to prepare defense, they could call anyone else and they called a Catachans...
That is like using Cadian Regiment to purge world of Daemonic incursions, simply not fitted for that role.

No IG regiment is.
The point was that the Catachan Jungle Fighters don't always fight in the jungle...
They do when there is a jungle around but otherwise they don't...

I think the OP means, if they aint in the jungle, why do they still wear little to no armour?

Am I correct?

TheRobotLol wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:
He is right, In "The LAst Ditch" Cain says while that administratum tries to make it so certain armies are used in certain places, its usually comes down to who is closes to the planet.

The problem is that in Necron codex they were using Catachans to defend a Hive World.
You don't send a jungle fighters into a city fight, for that you need siege army like Krieg. And as I understand Imperium had time to prepare defense, they could call anyone else and they called a Catachans...
That is like using Cadian Regiment to purge world of Daemonic incursions, simply not fitted for that role.

No IG regiment is.
The point was that the Catachan Jungle Fighters don't always fight in the jungle...
They do when there is a jungle around but otherwise they don't...

I think the OP means, if they aint in the jungle, why do they still wear little to no armour?

Am I correct?

Bookwrack wrote:Their muscles are huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge!

You don't need armor when you have huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge muscles.

Brother Coa wrote:
The problem is that in Necron codex they were using Catachans to defend a Hive World.
You don't send a jungle fighters into a city fight, for that you need siege army like Krieg. And as I understand Imperium had time to prepare defense, they could call anyone else and they called a Catachans...

If an Imperial Guard Regiment is nearby they are going to be used. They aren't going to send the Catachans away and then wait for a more appropriate Regiment to arrive because they aren't fighting on a jungle world.

Besides, when do they do that? I remember the Catachan Regiments being sent to a Tomb World by an Inquisitor but that's it.

SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:
Besides, when do they do that? I remember the Catachan Regiments being sent to a Tomb World by an Inquisitor but that's it.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Conquest_of_Uttu_Prime#.T0A424emhBA

The Catachan's are a specilist regiment meant for Jungle/Guerilla warfare. They arn't issued with Flak Jackets and only get Flak Vests because of the nature of their fighting style.

They will occasionally get assigned somewhere that their skills arn't quite as useful, but there isn't much that can be done about it. Its better then nobody getting sent at all.

They also might not have time to be issued with heavier Flak Jackets before they need to fight(and the unfamiliar weight could cripple their effectivness)


Specilist regiments are sent to areas of their expertise as a priority, but if they don't have such an assignment avaliable then they arn't going to let able bodied men twiddle their thumbs when they could be killing the enemy.

I think it's really hilarious how people never trip on how the catachans run around everywhere regardless of how temperate the climate is, bare chested with nothing but their pulsating pectorals and massive biceps to comfort them, yet if you ask for a model of a lady commissar with a nice rack you're a douchebag. Oh, the double standards.

BlaxicanX wrote:I think it's really hilarious how people never trip on how the catachans run around everywhere regardless of how temperate the climate is bare chested with nothing but their pulsating pectorals and massive biceps to comfort them, yet if you ask for a model of a lady commissar with a nice rack you're a douchebag. Oh, the double standards.

I have to agree with you there.

There is no standed armour for the guard only a requerment spec for it, make it cheep but not to cheep.
The planet that raises it would normaly have to equip it as well. and as stated their vests are of a type of flackjacket. So it stands to reason that if a world is a tropical one with smal ice caps north and south, and the reat of it is man eating plants, then you'll need some thing that can with stand the moisture level of near consten rain fall, sweat and mud of that world.

cgmckenzie wrote:Because it would look silly and go against the theme they are trying to make. Mordians, Tallarn, and about half of the Vostroyans also don't wear armor. It's all cosmetic.

-cgmckenzie

I was thinking their armor is integrated in their coats.

it is, there is plenty of room under those winter coats for ablative flak layers.



When it comes down to it, armor is only worth it if the protection is of greater benifit then the decrease in mobility.

Space Marines solve this by having zero decrease in mobility(actually an increase) from the Servos.


This is the only that that could possably bring copious amounts of armor back into common usage, the mitigation of mobility loss.

even the relativly little amount of armor worn today significantly reduces the mobility of the soldier wearing it, that and the tons of other gear they need to carry. If the armor could carry itself then you would be able to up the amount of armor significantly.

Guardsmen don't get PA so they have to deal with a low amount of protection.

They're really really good Blood Axes.

They may have determined that armor is useless in the environments they fight or is ignored by enemies firearms and decided to drop the extra weight. It is similar to what most low drop paratroopers do when they ditch their reserve chutes, because if you main fails, you don't have time to pop the reserve, so they ditch the extra weight.

Or GW wanted an army of little Rambos and I don't mind, they look cool jumping out of my Valkyries