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Just went into my local store to order a Tau Commander and Commander Farsight.

Got "advised" to wait a couple of months instead of buying them today.

Now that to me suggests one of two things...

A) New sculpts for the new Codex.

B) They are going Finecast with them.

I can't see a reason why someone would advise anyone not to buy something, unless they knew a product was getting updated.

If this is for a redshirt i wouldn't think to much of it, there not high enough up the chain to know anything.

Just my two cents
-ironhandstraken

Interesting - my local store advised against buying a 5th ed 40k rule book seemingly for an impending 6th ed release. Interesting that GW are actually doing the right thing and forgoing sales in favour of happy customers.

Putting those 2 points together then, I wonder if Tau are somehow linked to the 6th ed release... Just thikning out loud here people - don't go getting excited or narcy!

Puscifer wrote:

I can't see a reason why someone would advise anyone not to buy something, unless they knew a product was getting updated.

That is basically true.

But if your "local store" didn't happen to be Warhammer World in Nottingham UK or something along those lines, I'd be surprised if anyone working there would know more about upcoming releases than can be gleaned from the internet by any dedicated fan.

Given how tight rumours have been recently, it would not be impossible to see Tau this year, perhaps as a Xenos race alongside the most likely Dark Angels (see White Dwarf, etc..). But the majority of rumours rather point to Chaos or perhaps Eldar (which doesn't mean there's anything more substantial to those either).

C) He wanted to do you a favour based on bogus rumours he read online

Zweischneid wrote:

Puscifer wrote:

I can't see a reason why someone would advise anyone not to buy something, unless they knew a product was getting updated.

That is basically true.

But if your "local store" didn't happen to be Warhammer World in Nottingham UK or something along those lines, I'd be surprised if anyone working there would know more about upcoming releases than can be gleaned from the internet by any dedicated fan.

This, if their shirt is red, or the equivalent, their information can be found with Google and a couple minutes.

This was a "Blue shirt", but yeah I see where you are coming from, but this Blue shirt is usually one that is all sell sell sell and never ever says wait.

That is what got me thinking that they are telling the truth as it was competely against their usual character.

Did he advise you to buy anything else instead?

Medium of Death wrote:Did he advise you to buy anything else instead?

All they said about was the Tau Commander, Farsight and the XV88.

They changed the subject really quickly when I asked about other models in the range and the codex.

I'll take this with a grain of salt

Hmmm, interesting.

My local GW manager did the same when the new paints were coming out, though. Advised people that they might be better suited to wait for a week, though couldn't say why of course so it was all "wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more, say no more".

Mind you, this same guy has an unwritten thing where if you buy an army book and then a new book comes out for that army really quickly (I think it's up to a month after) then he'll trade you the new one for the old one, as long as it's in nice condition. I have a feeling that that isn't standard operating procedure for GW either.

Still, if it is them coming out in Finecast then I'm glad I bought Farsight yesterday in metal. I'd rather not have to pay more.

Personally, I cannot see them coming out in Finecast.

Are there any finecast/plastic hybrid kits?

To my knowledge there are none.

Commander, Farsight and XV-88? I can easily see finecast replacement for a while until a likely Tau release next year with a new plastic battlesuit box which includes those parts.

Interesting. Most retailers cannot purchase models or codices for armies when the update is pending. Before necrons came out all the stock dried up for warriors and destroyers - perhaps there is soon to be a tau embargo that might hint at a codex release within 3-6 months?

All speculation -- My big 'white whale' is 6th edition at the moment. I've never wanted to spend $75 on a hardcover book more in my life. <---pathetic, right?

Puscifer wrote:Personally, I cannot see them coming out in Finecast.

Are there any finecast/plastic hybrid kits?

To my knowledge there are none.

Good point. Which means (if this isn't just a GW employee believing a random rumour he heard about on the internet) that we might be seeing plastic broadsides and commanders. I don't understand why they didn't do broadsides and commanders in plastic to begin with. They'd sell enough of them to make it worthwhile, what with broadsides being almost a must take and the commander set being the only way to get the special issue weapons.

As for Farsight, do they sell enough of him for them to think changing him into plastic is a worthwhile investment? If not then he might become the first resin/plastic hybrid kit from GW.

lord_blackfang wrote:C) He wanted to do you a favour based on bogus rumours he read online

I agree with this post.

Redshirt's don't know squat about upcoming releases.

MajorWesJanson wrote:Commander, Farsight and XV-88? I can easily see finecast replacement for a while until a likely Tau release next year with a new plastic battlesuit box which includes those parts.

Are you sure? I can't remember any hybrid kits getting finecasted so far (even though the rumours point towards that for necron destroyer variants, but those are just rumours...)

The Blueshirt sold you a Stomper instead didnt he OP?

Just go for it! even if they are updated you will still have models. PS I think that chaos legions is next.

Tau seem to be first Codex in 2013, written by Robin Cruddace, with all miniatures ready for quite a while.

Puscifer wrote:Personally, I cannot see them coming out in Finecast.

Are there any finecast/plastic hybrid kits?

To my knowledge there are none.

Not that I find the rumour any more credible than you, given its source, but I really don't see why finecast/plastic hybrid kits are inherently implausible. Has anything which was a metal/plastic hybrid kit actually been replaced with either all-finecast or all plastic kits? (Not a rhetorical question, I actually can't think of anything, but I'm aware that I don't pay close attention to anything other than the few armies I play.)

Kroothawk wrote:Tau seem to be first Codex in 2013, written by Robin Cruddace

You poor, poor dears. I feel quite bad for the Tau players at this news, if true.

with all miniatures ready for quite a while.

This is some good news at least, again if true.

tetrisphreak wrote:Interesting. Most retailers cannot purchase models or codices for armies when the update is pending. Before necrons came out all the stock dried up for warriors and destroyers - perhaps there is soon to be a tau embargo that might hint at a codex release within 3-6 months?

All speculation -- My big 'white whale' is 6th edition at the moment. I've never wanted to spend $75 on a hardcover book more in my life. <---pathetic, right?

I'm going to check with my FLGS today and see what they say about ordering Tau stuff.

When it came to DE and Necrons, he couldn't order stuff roughly 3-4 months prior the new release.

Maybe the same thing is going to happen.


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Oh... and what's wrong with Cruddace writing the Tau 'Dex?

Remember, Crudance wrote Guard too... and it doesn't suck.

He just didn't seem to understand how to point monsterous creatures.

On the other hand we may get a tau flyer with 3 railguns and armor 12 with standard Targeting Array, Decoy Launcher, Disruption Pod, Drone Controlled that can carry 12 fire warriors or a squad of crisis suits for 125 pts as a Fast Attack choice.

Prodigalson wrote:Remember, Crudance wrote Guard too... and it doesn't suck.
He just didn't seem to understand how to point monstrous creatures.

On the other hand we may get a tau flyer with 3 railguns and armor 12 with standard Targeting Array, Decoy Launcher, Disruption Pod, Drone Controlled that can carry 12 fire warriors or a squad of crisis suits for 125 pts as a Fast Attack choice.

Sucking is relative.

Case in point:
The Vendetta.
Why would anyone ever take a Valkyrie over a Vendetta?
Having too many "must have" units is not a good thing for the overall quality of a book. It's counterproductive and ends up with pigeonholing people into cookiecutter builds, with no recourse for effective lists that deviate too far from the norm.


I have to wonder what we'll see, modelwise. I know there are pictures floating around of the test sculpts for plastic Pathfinders and a different kind of Crisis Suit.

I knew he wrote the IG 'dex and I really enjoyed that one. It was a good read.

I didn't realise he wrote the 'Nid one. I wasn't happy with that one. They totally screwed over the Nid players with that pile of Gak.

I hope this will be a return to form.


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Oh and in regards to the models...

The only thing I can see being kept is...

The Kroot Carnivores.

The Devilfish/Hammerhead/Sky Ray.

The Piranha.

The XV25.

These kits are still very much up-to-date. Everything else is very subpar by todays standards. The suits in particular need to be updated.

Puscifer wrote:I knew he wrote the IG 'dex and I really enjoyed that one. It was a good read.

I didn't realise he wrote the 'Nid one. I wasn't happy with that one. They totally screwed over the Nid players with that pile of Gak.

I hope this will be a return to form.


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Oh and in regards to the models...

The only thing I can see being kept is...

The Kroot Carnivores.

The Devilfish/Hammerhead/Sky Ray.

The Piranha.

The XV25.

These kits are still very much up-to-date. Everything else is very subpar by todays standards. The suits in particular need to be updated.

I don't see the firewarriors going anywhere. While I agree they could be better, but so could the Necron warrior or over in fantasy the TK skeleton warriors and they didn't bother to replace those.

Reportedly, the priority on the part of GW right now is to convert as much of the lines to plastic as possible.

So work from that line of thinking, and see what you can come up with.

Kanluwen wrote:Reportedly, the priority on the part of GW right now is to convert as much of the lines to plastic as possible.

.............

Yeah, I wonder why that is.

notprop wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Reportedly, the priority on the part of GW right now is to convert as much of the lines to plastic as possible.

Yeah, I wonder why that is.

Because the huge line of plastic kits they have available is what sets them apart from other offerings in the miniature wargaming field.