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You'd rather have good fluff than a powerful army list?

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

Naw, Farsight will completely Decimate Ghazhkull's armies, personally bitchsmack the ork warlord in hand to hand combat, and kill all his warbosses, than proceed to let him live just so the orks know the name of the EPIC FARSIGHT!

That actually happened in one game I played against my Orky friend, just without the "letting Gaz live" bit. The look on his face was priceless when Gazghkull and bodyguard were wiped out in close combat by Tau (admittedly after being weakened pretty badly by a salvo of rapid fire plasma rifles).

I will never let him forget it.

Blood Lord Soldado wrote:You'd rather have good fluff than a powerful army list?

powerful would be the wrong word. competitive, balanced (both internally and externally) and versatile, with many different competitive options. that would be good.

Blood Lord Soldado wrote:You'd rather have good fluff than a powerful army list?

I'd rather get both but if getting a good list with lots of competitive power means losing everything about the army that made me pick them in the first place then I'll go fluff over rules any time. I think the Tau codex is one of the most balanced out there in terms of its fluff and I'd like it to stay that way.

A Town Called Malus wrote:

Blood Lord Soldado wrote:You'd rather have good fluff than a powerful army list?

I'd rather get both but if getting a good list with lots of competitive power means losing everything about the army that made me pick them in the first place then I'll go fluff over rules any time. I think the Tau codex is one of the most balanced out there in terms of its fluff and I'd like it to stay that way.

What did you go into them for?

I'm just taking these one at a time. I have my new Necrons in May, and right now that's all I'm concerned about.

kronk wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:C) He wanted to do you a favour based on bogus rumours he read online

I agree with this post.

Redshirt's don't know squat about upcoming releases.

It depends if you are willing to wait to expand your army till the new stuff comes out, but if you like to paint buy it now so you can paint it.

My favorite color is red and I have a lot of red shirts I wear. I'm wearing one now! <-- red shirts

I just hope the new codex gives me the option to equip my XV8s with Taufists and Taublasters. Or maybe upgrade to XV88s and give them Taucannons.

I heard a rumor that the Piranhas are going to get a new ability- if a squadron of 3 flies at full speed within 6 inches of an enemy unit they get to employ the Taunado maneuver that allows the Tau player to immediately move the enemy unit a direction and distance indicated by the scatter dice.

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

A Town Called Malus wrote:

Blood Lord Soldado wrote:You'd rather have good fluff than a powerful army list?

I'd rather get both but if getting a good list with lots of competitive power means losing everything about the army that made me pick them in the first place then I'll go fluff over rules any time. I think the Tau codex is one of the most balanced out there in terms of its fluff and I'd like it to stay that way.

What did you go into them for?

Well the units and versatility inherent in them. I don't think Crisis suits are going to be going anywhere so I'm pretty sure this'll stay no matter what else happens when they get updated.

Their optimistic view on the future, which is a good counter for all the doom and gloom from every other army out there (except for orks who enjoy what they do and Tyranids who only think about lunch). I don't get people's complaints about this. The Tau are a young race, why would they be resigned to a slow rot like the Imperium or fading to extinction like the Eldar? A static universe where everyone is miserable and resigned to their fate is bland and uninteresting.

That none of their special characters relied on heavy-handed heroics to make them seem strong or capable. Farsight and Shadowsun achieved their victories with tactics and strategy, not single handedly defeating the enemy commander in a duel or whatever. All the heroics of the Tau empire have been of them standing together to face the enemy, rather than one individual saving the day.

The release date for the new codex tau is this: NEVER or so it seems, all models ready and waiting? im not buying it, i cant see a company letting their money root on their basements while they have all tau players like zombies hitting the door for new releases and an actual codex.

Tau are probable not even on the schedule, i we will not be able to see them as a brand new army until 2013, wich is too far away to actually even think about it, or bother about it.

PD: Yeah, im pissed since i can only wait to be able to buy XV-88 on my FLGS, since there is no GW shop on my lil`island, and im not goin to pay 120 € to get just 3 minis when i actually need up to 6 of them.

GK and DE models were ready months before the release.

Hell, DE models were leaked ages before the release. Jes Goodwin was furious.

All this thread reminds me to do is to actually attach the little receivers to my Fire Warriors.

I hope they don't change the Battlesuit TOO much, I don't want mine to be out of place.

Here's to hoping for a 3 pack of battlesuits instead of individual boxes.

Two of those and a new commander model would surely bring my tau off of the shelf.

Oh and a new codex would be nice.

Here's to something that doesn't turn into a crock of spit again.

ChiliPowderKeg wrote:Here's to something that doesn't turn into a crock of spit again.

I totally agree.

The only thing stopping from doing Tau right now is a new release.

When my FLGS started giving away metal models. I posted a thread on the subject and everybody said that nothing was going to happen, there were rumors, but most people doubted them. About a month and a half later, Games Workshop announced finecast. So, if he advised against buying it, i think a finecast is probable, since a new tau codex might be rather odd. But, you never know, the internet has been wrong and could be wrong again...

The fact that this guy is a real hard sell sell sell type of guy. Waaaaay more than anyone else I've encountered in a GW.

For him to convince me not to buy something is pretty big.

A Town Called Malus wrote:

Puscifer wrote:Personally, I cannot see them coming out in Finecast.

Are there any finecast/plastic hybrid kits?

To my knowledge there are none.

...As for Farsight, do they sell enough of him for them to think changing him into plastic is a worthwhile investment? If not then he might become the first resin/plastic hybrid kit from GW.

Necrons are getting finecast upgrade kits for Destroyer Lords and Heavy Destroyers. It wouldn't be a stretch for Crisis Suit Commanders, etc to be an upgrade kit.

I was told something similar to this at the end of last year, as the shop I'd been to couldn't reorder tau stock. This was after Finecast was realeased.

They thought a new year realease was probable, well that's been and gone.

I think it will happen as they have a line that is for all intents and purposes stalling, but there are much more important (more popular?) lines like Eldar, chaos and more marines to do IMO. That's not to saw GW won't throw a curve ball out there.

KaiserEddie wrote:The release date for the new codex tau is this: NEVER or so it seems, all models ready and waiting? im not buying it, i cant see a company letting their money root on their basements while they have all tau players like zombies hitting the door for new releases and an actual codex...

Actually this could make sense from GW's stand-point. They've already shown that they don't release multiple armies at once even when they're ready, purely for marketing reasons. If they follow the same schedule they have all year, it'll be Fantasy/40k/Fantasy/40k/etc...

So with May being Necrons, June is Fantasy something, July is 40k - probably 6th ed., then August Fantasy, September Dark Angels, October Fantasy, November might be the first we see Tau, even if they're already finished and ready to go. But most people push it into 2013 because they think Chaos or Eldar or both will be first. All those model could be finished and ready to go too. Remember the old system where they used to give us that useless picture preview like 4 months out? They finish all the models quite a while before they release them. Doing it this way makes them more money.

Kilkrazy wrote:One of the big Tyranid models is mixed media -- plastic and Finecast.

The Hive Tyrant was sold as a Finecast/Plastic Hybrid for several months until it was replaced by the new plastic one.

Well, I think we all just want it to be true really badly..

But after the last rumor mess, I will just stick to the golden rule:
Pictures or it didn't happen.

To be fair, the May Necron rumors panned out so who knows.

The same thing happened to me when I went to my FLGS the other day. I was looking for broadsides he said: He didn't have them, and wasn't going to have them for awhile. And he said to wait a few months for the new tau stuff. I'm not holding my breath.

Well May looks fairly locked down with Necrons and SM finecast wave. :(

Anpu-adom wrote:

A Town Called Malus wrote:

Puscifer wrote:Personally, I cannot see them coming out in Finecast.

Are there any finecast/plastic hybrid kits?

To my knowledge there are none.

...As for Farsight, do they sell enough of him for them to think changing him into plastic is a worthwhile investment? If not then he might become the first resin/plastic hybrid kit from GW.

Necrons are getting finecast upgrade kits for Destroyer Lords and Heavy Destroyers. It wouldn't be a stretch for Crisis Suit Commanders, etc to be an upgrade kit.

It wouldn't be a stretch, but given that we've been hearing rumblings for quite awhile of redone Crisis Suits I'd think it would be far more likely to see a full plastic kit with options for Broadsides, Commanders, and normal Crisis Suits.

Again everything I hear about Tau I'm still assuming springtime next year. I really can't see anything coming out sooner then that.

Yeah, failcast railguns would suuuuck.

SickSix wrote:Yeah, failcast railguns would suuuuck.

Yeah, (overused annoying catchphrase term) railguns that don't weigh half a pound each, fall over and chip constantly would suck.

I was told last year the same thing about Broadsides. When they ran out of stock the store owner said they were being delayed until they came out with the finecast version.
Then I eventually got the same old metal ones to my disappointment.