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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/defiancegames/28mm-power-armor-hardsuits-defiance-games?ref=recently_launched




28mm-scale UAMC Hardsuit Power Armor Figures


The Hardsuit project is one that has generated a huge amount of interest from the wargames community and we are taking to Kickstarter to make sure we do it RIGHT!

We know that these are our most anticipated figure set and we want to make sure we are ready for the surge of interest. This Kickstarter will help us gauge that interest with enough lead time to have everything perfect for our early 2014 launch.

The sculpture is nearly 100% complete with a few tweaks to come for manufacturing purposes. In an ideal scenario our actual lead time to produce the figures - from 3D print through to production molds and boxed release - is about a month. We've added three additional months of cushion to guarantee that these are absolutely perfect and that we can meet the demand.

Each box set of the UAMC Hardsuits will contain 8 figures (two 4 figure squads) with multiple weapons options. Our Hardsuits will be made with spin plastic. MSRP $29.95




Prototype Hardsuit w/ Grenade Launcher (not actual size) Painting by Max Martelli



Well there it is, figures I really wanted, but a company that's had loads of problems delivering stuff both in terms of time and quality up to now (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/400806.page), but has started to improve recently (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1500/400806.page)

not sure I'm brave enough to take the plunge (especially as I want to spend lots on the upcoming Darklands 2 KS) but I thought the Dakka public might want to know

Estimated Delivery: Feb 2014.

The render looks good. The prototype looks like it is carved out of wood or cast in dental plaster, like Hirst molds stuff.

I am not touching this KS.
If they finally hit the shelves, that would be cool.

But I will leave it to others to take that risk.

 skrulnik wrote:
The render looks good. The prototype looks like it is carved out of wood or cast in dental plaster, like Hirst molds stuff.

I would have said shapeways myself.

"spin plastic" means their Trollcast varient? Yeah, not as interested in that as good old fashioned styrene.

Seems like if someone is going to the trouble of creating a kickstarter (and giving kickstarter part of the money), then make the campaign a real goal, for hard styrene plastic molds, not for pocket change.

Styrene (or "good") plastic would have been ideal. At least this KS didn't just say "plastic" and leave the actual material to be an unpleasant surprise down the road. Also, did anyone else notice that the plastic UAMC Marines kit was not listed as one of the currently available kits? What's up with that?

Anyway, I think I'm in. $25 is pretty fair for the amount of entertainment this will provide, and I let all of you guys carry the tab for the Raging Heroes KS, so yeah...fair. If I ever get a box of hardsuits out of it, even better. They can guard the AoW dwarf standard bearer.

 Ouze wrote:

 skrulnik wrote:
The render looks good. The prototype looks like it is carved out of wood or cast in dental plaster, like Hirst molds stuff.

I would have said shapeways myself.

In the q&a section someone asks about the height of the suit, and they say they are not certain as their prototype "test print" is still being tweaked. So I guess ou are right on target.

This is a joke, right? They're actually launching a kickstarter?

This...will not....end well...

It could end well, you never know! The design certainly looks more promising than most of their efforts.

I'm not willing to put money into the idea that it will end well, but I can entertain the idea of a reality where this marks the beginning of their journey into some semblance of a normal release schedule.

The design is cool, but the prototype really doesn't do a good job of selling it.

Based upon this particular company's modus operandi, their release date will actually be a year or two after the estimate they are providing; I wouldn't hold my breath that anything will come of this...

That looks really similar to the designs in 6-Commando

The only way this could have been better is if it was an indigogo campaign the suits look great in design, but I can't wait to see his excuses a year from now.

Defiance Games wrote:We're... very aware of our limitations.

I think it would be more accurate to say they have delusions of mediocrity. Even if this was a Kickstarter for the XX Marines that we've been promised for longer than Defiance Games has exited, I still wouldn't pay for them until they'd been produced, shipped, and reviewed by a trustworthy third party.

What the heck. I'm in for three boxes. They might make enough to produce the German mech. Who knows, the hard suits might look good with my THI suits from Sedition Wars.

Gonna have to miss this one too, but good luck

looks like they'll be funded quick.

It's a shame that Defiance is still putting their faith in 'spincast plastic'. I'd have loved these in styrene. I think done right this concept would have made them good money.

That paint job is far too "chalky" to be advertising a model. I guess they don't have the actual plastic models yet, but that photo turns me off significantly.

They should file down the model to something acceptable. Perhaps even prime and wash it.

Additionally, a scale photo would be nice too. Place it next to existing models or a ruler.

Seriously though... I'd love to get my hands on a few. But after the charlie foxtrot that was their Marines... And their bugs... And their Panzergrenadiers...
There isn't a bargepole long enough.

Screw it, in for $25. Even if they suck, I can use the bits.

They look heavily "inspired" by Maschienen Krieger

 skrulnik wrote:
The render looks good. The prototype looks like it is carved out of wood or cast in dental plaster, like Hirst molds stuff.

I am not touching this KS.
If they finally hit the shelves, that would be cool.

But I will leave it to others to take that risk.

Agreed, ugh @ that prototype...

To all the haters: You can't say that just because literally every single other project they've done has been a disaster, this one is certain to fail. You can only say that the odds of them producing this model on time and correctly is so slim as to be insignificant and unreasonable to consider.

To all the supporters: You should never go to Vegas.

TL;DR Don't you dare judge this book by its contents.

I'm on the fence about this one. $25 is around retail, so I really wouldn't be losing all that much on it. I've loved that design since they showed it off and would love to have some. Seeing that they're still trying to push the Spincast garbage of theirs is a major turn off though. I never thought their marines looked all that bad though. The Germans were an amazing cluster feth, but the Chinese seem to have been a considerable improvement. Hell, the fact that they actually acknowledged that the Germans had issues at all was an amazing improvement on the company's part. I will say this though, the suit isn't over detailed like the Germans were, so I don't think we run nearly as high of a chance of getting the smudged, muddy details the Germans had and the parts look to be chunky enough that misalignments will be easier to fix.

Plus, I noticed that they actually intend to do the German mech in proper HARD PLASTIC! I'd be down for it in that case, assuming they can pull it off.

The concept looks fantastic, wish they'd translate some of that detail into the sculpt

No.









Highly advise people away from this KS.. thats due to their track record. Thats just me though.

The only way this campaign could be more fraught with danger would be if they teamed up with Felix of AOW in order to ensure on time delivery. I wish them well but, despite my interest in that design around 2 years ago, I'll have to see it in person or close ups of off the shelf models before I put any money down on them due to the rather variable casting quality of previous offerings.

 warboss wrote:
The only way this campaign could be more fraught with danger would be if they teamed up with Felix of AOW in order to ensure on time delivery.

Or our friend from Mierce and Maelstrom.

 Splod wrote:

 warboss wrote:
The only way this campaign could be more fraught with danger would be if they teamed up with Felix of AOW in order to ensure on time delivery.

Or our friend from Mierce and Maelstrom.

Ice cold guys. Ice cold.

XD

Not necessarily disagreeing thow...