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How do.

Bit of a rumour here - and not one I've been able to corroborate the source on, as it came through the Loot Sharing admin team.



Apologies if the pic doesn't show, as it is in a private chat, and my luddite mind can't do much.

To describe, it has a legit looking product code, and seems to be an order for the peeps in China that do GW's scenery kits for them. It's also amongst 'Shattered Storm Throne' and 'Astrolithic Skyshrine' for AoS.

However, it does list the client as 'Games Workshop USA MFG'. Now, GW are of course a UK based company - but one could argue, I suppose, this is an order heading out to the US warehouse?

Salt licks at the ready, I guess.

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Original link.


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OGRE MAWTRIBES GREAT MAWPOT
ENDLESS SPELLS OSSIARCH BONEREAPERS
OSSIARCH BONEREAPERS SCENERY

BEASTGRAVE SCENERY SET
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The last block is stuff we've already seen / is already out.

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It is commenting on the topic of necromunda.

The link from the info:
https://es.panjiva.com/Wargames-Factory-Ltd/33258484

(from the cell phone there are people who can't see it)


The truth is that it is very interesting, and would fit with the rumors.

It would be good if they release a new necromunda box with this scenery, and later a pack for Christmas or similar.

I hope a preview of GW coming soon.

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more terrain is ALWAYS a good thing

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It's that we've seen confirmed stuff make me wonder if this is a cunning spoof.

I mean, you add a grain of truth, and that's all some might see.

I really, really hope this is genuine though! I'd love me some plastic Zone Mortalis - and I can see it featuring as a battlefield thing in a volume of Psychic Awakening.

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The linked site is legitimate (and if you change the ES to EN you can read it in English), and there's been a rumour about a new Necromunda starter box for a while now...

BUT they could just be codenames rather than product names - OSSIARCH BONEREAPERS SCENERY seems very generic compared to the rest, for example.

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I'm sure this is legit.
   
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I wonder what "40HC substitution for 40G" stands for on the end of the middle listing after the Bonereaper Terrain.

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Change of type of shipping container than asked for, 40HC is a 40' High Cube, no idea what a G is though.

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I hope it will be somewhat compatible with resin ones.

   
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 ingtaer wrote:
Change of type of shipping container than asked for, 40HC is a 40' High Cube, no idea what a G is though.


G or GP means General Purpose.
   
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Plastic Zone Mortalis would be great. If they would release some updated rules for it, I may actually buy some 40k miniatures (so as long as they are not the Kill Team rules).


 
   
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It'd be a decent sized expansion to pad out the 2019 Chapter Approved
   
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Current rumours are that this is going to be initially sold as a Necromunda product. But I would be shocked if there are no plans to support its use in 40k. IIRC Kill Team already has rules for close confines fights.

Tastyfish wrote:
It'd be a decent sized expansion to pad out the 2019 Chapter Approved


Or a future Psychic Awakening volume.

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So the HTS codes they are using for these terrain kits are going to be +15% duty on December 15th for that trump china tariffs.

Gotta remind myself to buy terrain before GW potentially starts marking up.

Also goes for anything made in china.

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Not surprising to see Wargames Factory pop up there. They were a US based (produced in China) miniatures company that ceased direct sales about 5-6 years back (heck, maybe slightly longer). They sold their existing lines (which were regarded quite well, particularly considering how incredibly budget-friendly they were) to Warlord Games - which subsequently jacked the prices up, of course.

Wargames Factory had a rough time with a business fiend who went on to try to start another company, Defiance Games (basically a gakky scamming businessman whose name I can't recall, but think Kevin Siembeda levels of sleaze). After ousting him Wargames Factory decided they would shift to production and design assistance for other companies (they produce the plastics for Dreamforge Games last I checked, etc.).

So it seems they still have a heavy factory presence and must be renting that space out to GW (or just straight producing the stuff for them). I used to chat with a guy named...Jim Voss(?) at local conventions back when they were selling stuff. Seemed like a pretty good crowd, were in business with Howard Whitehouse working on some rules etc. when everything changed due to the personnel issues. I haven't seen them mentioned in years, so it's cool to see they're still doing stuff.

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They also do all the Kingdom Death plastic, and the plastic for Wyrd (although perhaps not the most recent? a few of the recent releases seem a bit of a different style)

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 Desubot wrote:
So the HTS codes they are using for these terrain kits are going to be +15% duty on December 15th for that trump china tariffs.

Gotta remind myself to buy terrain before GW potentially starts marking up.

Also goes for anything made in china.


That's...a lot of things!
   
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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
They also do all the Kingdom Death plastic, and the plastic for Wyrd (although perhaps not the most recent? a few of the recent releases seem a bit of a different style)


Ah, very cool. I hadn't followed them after they went behind the scenes, but it's nice to know they're doing stuff with so many companies. If GW is approaching them about stuff, it's a good sign, meaning they've got some serious capacity available, etc.

 
   
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 Elbows wrote:
Not surprising to see Wargames Factory pop up there. They were a US based (produced in China) miniatures company that ceased direct sales about 5-6 years back (heck, maybe slightly longer). They sold their existing lines (which were regarded quite well, particularly considering how incredibly budget-friendly they were) to Warlord Games - which subsequently jacked the prices up, of course.

Wargames Factory had a rough time with a business fiend who went on to try to start another company, Defiance Games (basically a gakky scamming businessman whose name I can't recall, but think Kevin Siembeda levels of sleaze). After ousting him Wargames Factory decided they would shift to production and design assistance for other companies (they produce the plastics for Dreamforge Games last I checked, etc.).

So it seems they still have a heavy factory presence and must be renting that space out to GW (or just straight producing the stuff for them). I used to chat with a guy named...Jim Voss(?) at local conventions back when they were selling stuff. Seemed like a pretty good crowd, were in business with Howard Whitehouse working on some rules etc. when everything changed due to the personnel issues. I haven't seen them mentioned in years, so it's cool to see they're still doing stuff.


TONY REIDY (Or Riedy) I believe the jerk in question is named.

Wargames factory got a bit of a bad rep for a while because they were holding the molds for secret weapon miniatures and Dreamforge games hostage. Basically both companies couldn’t pay extra to buy the molds AGAIN, so those are no longer produced.

If I remember correctly from Marc of Dreamforge, WGF is a minuscule part of a medical company who uses the technology to build medical equipment. Marc got them to produce his models and then shortly after both Poots and Wyrd got into business with them. Which maxed out the little amount of production time WGF had to use on non-medical items.

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 Alpharius wrote:
 Desubot wrote:
So the HTS codes they are using for these terrain kits are going to be +15% duty on December 15th for that trump china tariffs.

Gotta remind myself to buy terrain before GW potentially starts marking up.

Also goes for anything made in china.


That's...a lot of things!


And I bet Canada will get hit with this duty increase too as I bet GW ships to the US and then moves product up to Canada from there :(

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 Theophony wrote:
 Elbows wrote:
Not surprising to see Wargames Factory pop up there. They were a US based (produced in China) miniatures company that ceased direct sales about 5-6 years back (heck, maybe slightly longer). They sold their existing lines (which were regarded quite well, particularly considering how incredibly budget-friendly they were) to Warlord Games - which subsequently jacked the prices up, of course.

Wargames Factory had a rough time with a business fiend who went on to try to start another company, Defiance Games (basically a gakky scamming businessman whose name I can't recall, but think Kevin Siembeda levels of sleaze). After ousting him Wargames Factory decided they would shift to production and design assistance for other companies (they produce the plastics for Dreamforge Games last I checked, etc.).

So it seems they still have a heavy factory presence and must be renting that space out to GW (or just straight producing the stuff for them). I used to chat with a guy named...Jim Voss(?) at local conventions back when they were selling stuff. Seemed like a pretty good crowd, were in business with Howard Whitehouse working on some rules etc. when everything changed due to the personnel issues. I haven't seen them mentioned in years, so it's cool to see they're still doing stuff.


TONY REIDY (Or Riedy) I believe the jerk in question is named.

Wargames factory got a bit of a bad rep for a while because they were holding the molds for secret weapon miniatures and Dreamforge games hostage. Basically both companies couldn’t pay extra to buy the molds AGAIN, so those are no longer produced.

If I remember correctly from Marc of Dreamforge, WGF is a minuscule part of a medical company who uses the technology to build medical equipment. Marc got them to produce his models and then shortly after both Poots and Wyrd got into business with them. Which maxed out the little amount of production time WGF had to use on non-medical items.


Ooohh, the plot thickens. They probably make plastic tools for assassins as well...I should have known!

 
   
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Not entirely relevant, but there was a bit of mis-remembered history going on in regards to WGF.

Spoiler:
Wargames Factory started as a US company founded by Tony Reidy. It entered into a production partnership with Ghost Studios, which is the factory in China. After Reidy essentially ran up all sorts of invoices and didn't pay them, the owner of Ghost Studios demanded a share in the company. Once he became co-owner, he found how badly run the business had been, and how shady Tony was. This prompted the ouster of Tony from the company and the adoption of the Wargames Factory brand for Ghost Studios. It might seem like damaged goods, but given how few people remember Ghost Studios was a thing, some recognition is apparently better than none.

Reidy of course claims it was an evil Chinaman trying to usurp his good ol' red-white-and-blue US company. As time has gone on and WGF has produced a number of goods for various people and Reidy ran a Kickscammer which failed to provide even the level of buffoonery-based "amusement" that SIembeda managed. Proof is in the pudding, as they say.

The situation with DreamForge is unfortunate, but simply business. WGF agreed to make Mark's tooling on credit as a show of capability to the broader market; a loss-leader in other words. Indeed the comment of credit being at the limit with the manufacturer was mentioned during the campaign if memory serves. Mark, in turn, got a huge number of tools made for comparatively low outlay. However, until the credit is paid off, WGF owns those tools which....was the agreement. It's not so much hostage-taking as it is their partial ownership of the molds.

The issue now is twofold; Mark was unable to develop a gaming system to drive sales of the product line to fund re-orders and WGF decided that it would do better as a behind-the-scenes producer without the big footprint of a distributor thus withdrawing their own brand/lines from the public; the distribution rights at least sold off/given to Warlord and DreamForge. Were Mark to be able to get the funds for a production run, they'd probably do so but as DFG is now without a warehouse, the funds to do a production run are just one of many issues. A genuine shame, as I really do love the kits that were produced.

Thus concludes the history lesson.


Actually on topic, it's somewhat curious that it's called out as "floors"; are these possibly just tiles a la RoB? As for the GW USA, it wouldn't be surprising to learn that there's some tax benefit to the items being procured from the US office instead of the UK one. That's going far afield of any area of expertise as to the actual mechanics, but it seems the most likely explanation.
   
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Oh wait... I just forgot how expensive the Realm of Battle tiles are.

That puts a real downer on the prospect of plastic Zone Mortalis tiles. Guess we'll have to see which is cheaper, GW's effort or these.

   
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 Krinsath wrote:
Actually on topic, it's somewhat curious that it's called out as "floors"; are these possibly just tiles a la RoB?



Being just flat tiles would be....disappointing to say the least. Especially given GW's recent excellent(IMO) terrain output. But its probably best to temper our expectations. Although that is always easer said then done

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Maybe walls come in a new necromunda box, and are compatible with the current cardboard board to be "cheaper" . And this product is a expansion with floors.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh wait... I just forgot how expensive the Realm of Battle tiles are.

That puts a real downer on the prospect of plastic Zone Mortalis tiles. Guess we'll have to see which is cheaper, GW's effort or these.


Gawd, why would someone make paper mache walls and recast them in resin? You're way better off getting one of the MDF kits.

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Today's preorder list includes the Ogre terrain with 'mawpot' in the image URL, so it looks like this list is legit.
   
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Looking forward to this, hoping that at least one of the tiles is completely without walls, been itching to get some proper hangar floors that aren't all warped and misshapen.

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So going by the dates we could be looking at the very least a preview by the end of the month?
   
 
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