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Bit of a rumour here - and not one I've been able to corroborate the source on, as it came through the Loot Sharing admin team.
Apologies if the pic doesn't show, as it is in a private chat, and my luddite mind can't do much.
To describe, it has a legit looking product code, and seems to be an order for the peeps in China that do GW's scenery kits for them. It's also amongst 'Shattered Storm Throne' and 'Astrolithic Skyshrine' for AoS.
However, it does list the client as 'Games Workshop USA MFG'. Now, GW are of course a UK based company - but one could argue, I suppose, this is an order heading out to the US warehouse?
Salt licks at the ready, I guess.
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It's that we've seen confirmed stuff make me wonder if this is a cunning spoof.
I mean, you add a grain of truth, and that's all some might see.
I really, really hope this is genuine though! I'd love me some plastic Zone Mortalis - and I can see it featuring as a battlefield thing in a volume of Psychic Awakening.
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The linked site is legitimate (and if you change the ES to EN you can read it in English), and there's been a rumour about a new Necromunda starter box for a while now...
BUT they could just be codenames rather than product names - OSSIARCH BONEREAPERS SCENERY seems very generic compared to the rest, for example.
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Plastic Zone Mortalis would be great. If they would release some updated rules for it, I may actually buy some 40k miniatures (so as long as they are not the Kill Team rules).
Current rumours are that this is going to be initially sold as a Necromunda product. But I would be shocked if there are no plans to support its use in 40k. IIRC Kill Team already has rules for close confines fights.
Tastyfish wrote: It'd be a decent sized expansion to pad out the 2019 Chapter Approved
Or a future Psychic Awakening volume.
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Not surprising to see Wargames Factory pop up there. They were a US based (produced in China) miniatures company that ceased direct sales about 5-6 years back (heck, maybe slightly longer). They sold their existing lines (which were regarded quite well, particularly considering how incredibly budget-friendly they were) to Warlord Games - which subsequently jacked the prices up, of course.
Wargames Factory had a rough time with a business fiend who went on to try to start another company, Defiance Games (basically a gakky scamming businessman whose name I can't recall, but think Kevin Siembeda levels of sleaze). After ousting him Wargames Factory decided they would shift to production and design assistance for other companies (they produce the plastics for Dreamforge Games last I checked, etc.).
So it seems they still have a heavy factory presence and must be renting that space out to GW (or just straight producing the stuff for them). I used to chat with a guy named...Jim Voss(?) at local conventions back when they were selling stuff. Seemed like a pretty good crowd, were in business with Howard Whitehouse working on some rules etc. when everything changed due to the personnel issues. I haven't seen them mentioned in years, so it's cool to see they're still doing stuff.
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They also do all the Kingdom Death plastic, and the plastic for Wyrd (although perhaps not the most recent? a few of the recent releases seem a bit of a different style)
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: They also do all the Kingdom Death plastic, and the plastic for Wyrd (although perhaps not the most recent? a few of the recent releases seem a bit of a different style)
Ah, very cool. I hadn't followed them after they went behind the scenes, but it's nice to know they're doing stuff with so many companies. If GW is approaching them about stuff, it's a good sign, meaning they've got some serious capacity available, etc.
Elbows wrote: Not surprising to see Wargames Factory pop up there. They were a US based (produced in China) miniatures company that ceased direct sales about 5-6 years back (heck, maybe slightly longer). They sold their existing lines (which were regarded quite well, particularly considering how incredibly budget-friendly they were) to Warlord Games - which subsequently jacked the prices up, of course.
Wargames Factory had a rough time with a business fiend who went on to try to start another company, Defiance Games (basically a gakky scamming businessman whose name I can't recall, but think Kevin Siembeda levels of sleaze). After ousting him Wargames Factory decided they would shift to production and design assistance for other companies (they produce the plastics for Dreamforge Games last I checked, etc.).
So it seems they still have a heavy factory presence and must be renting that space out to GW (or just straight producing the stuff for them). I used to chat with a guy named...Jim Voss(?) at local conventions back when they were selling stuff. Seemed like a pretty good crowd, were in business with Howard Whitehouse working on some rules etc. when everything changed due to the personnel issues. I haven't seen them mentioned in years, so it's cool to see they're still doing stuff.
TONY REIDY (Or Riedy) I believe the jerk in question is named.
Wargames factory got a bit of a bad rep for a while because they were holding the molds for secret weapon miniatures and Dreamforge games hostage. Basically both companies couldn’t pay extra to buy the molds AGAIN, so those are no longer produced.
If I remember correctly from Marc of Dreamforge, WGF is a minuscule part of a medical company who uses the technology to build medical equipment. Marc got them to produce his models and then shortly after both Poots and Wyrd got into business with them. Which maxed out the little amount of production time WGF had to use on non-medical items.
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Elbows wrote: Not surprising to see Wargames Factory pop up there. They were a US based (produced in China) miniatures company that ceased direct sales about 5-6 years back (heck, maybe slightly longer). They sold their existing lines (which were regarded quite well, particularly considering how incredibly budget-friendly they were) to Warlord Games - which subsequently jacked the prices up, of course.
Wargames Factory had a rough time with a business fiend who went on to try to start another company, Defiance Games (basically a gakky scamming businessman whose name I can't recall, but think Kevin Siembeda levels of sleaze). After ousting him Wargames Factory decided they would shift to production and design assistance for other companies (they produce the plastics for Dreamforge Games last I checked, etc.).
So it seems they still have a heavy factory presence and must be renting that space out to GW (or just straight producing the stuff for them). I used to chat with a guy named...Jim Voss(?) at local conventions back when they were selling stuff. Seemed like a pretty good crowd, were in business with Howard Whitehouse working on some rules etc. when everything changed due to the personnel issues. I haven't seen them mentioned in years, so it's cool to see they're still doing stuff.
TONY REIDY (Or Riedy) I believe the jerk in question is named.
Wargames factory got a bit of a bad rep for a while because they were holding the molds for secret weapon miniatures and Dreamforge games hostage. Basically both companies couldn’t pay extra to buy the molds AGAIN, so those are no longer produced.
If I remember correctly from Marc of Dreamforge, WGF is a minuscule part of a medical company who uses the technology to build medical equipment. Marc got them to produce his models and then shortly after both Poots and Wyrd got into business with them. Which maxed out the little amount of production time WGF had to use on non-medical items.
Ooohh, the plot thickens. They probably make plastic tools for assassins as well...I should have known!
Not entirely relevant, but there was a bit of mis-remembered history going on in regards to WGF.
Spoiler:
Wargames Factory started as a US company founded by Tony Reidy. It entered into a production partnership with Ghost Studios, which is the factory in China. After Reidy essentially ran up all sorts of invoices and didn't pay them, the owner of Ghost Studios demanded a share in the company. Once he became co-owner, he found how badly run the business had been, and how shady Tony was. This prompted the ouster of Tony from the company and the adoption of the Wargames Factory brand for Ghost Studios. It might seem like damaged goods, but given how few people remember Ghost Studios was a thing, some recognition is apparently better than none.
Reidy of course claims it was an evil Chinaman trying to usurp his good ol' red-white-and-blue US company. As time has gone on and WGF has produced a number of goods for various people and Reidy ran a Kickscammer which failed to provide even the level of buffoonery-based "amusement" that SIembeda managed. Proof is in the pudding, as they say.
The situation with DreamForge is unfortunate, but simply business. WGF agreed to make Mark's tooling on credit as a show of capability to the broader market; a loss-leader in other words. Indeed the comment of credit being at the limit with the manufacturer was mentioned during the campaign if memory serves. Mark, in turn, got a huge number of tools made for comparatively low outlay. However, until the credit is paid off, WGF owns those tools which....was the agreement. It's not so much hostage-taking as it is their partial ownership of the molds.
The issue now is twofold; Mark was unable to develop a gaming system to drive sales of the product line to fund re-orders and WGF decided that it would do better as a behind-the-scenes producer without the big footprint of a distributor thus withdrawing their own brand/lines from the public; the distribution rights at least sold off/given to Warlord and DreamForge. Were Mark to be able to get the funds for a production run, they'd probably do so but as DFG is now without a warehouse, the funds to do a production run are just one of many issues. A genuine shame, as I really do love the kits that were produced.
Thus concludes the history lesson.
Actually on topic, it's somewhat curious that it's called out as "floors"; are these possibly just tiles a la RoB? As for the GW USA, it wouldn't be surprising to learn that there's some tax benefit to the items being procured from the US office instead of the UK one. That's going far afield of any area of expertise as to the actual mechanics, but it seems the most likely explanation.
Krinsath wrote: Actually on topic, it's somewhat curious that it's called out as "floors"; are these possibly just tiles a la RoB?
Being just flat tiles would be....disappointing to say the least. Especially given GW's recent excellent(IMO) terrain output. But its probably best to temper our expectations. Although that is always easer said then done
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Maybe walls come in a new necromunda box, and are compatible with the current cardboard board to be "cheaper" . And this product is a expansion with floors.
Looking forward to this, hoping that at least one of the tiles is completely without walls, been itching to get some proper hangar floors that aren't all warped and misshapen.