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Damn it, why oh why do I have to wait to monday to get my WD...

About dreadknights flying- a BA dreadnought can use a psychic power to move as if it has a jump pack, right? So could be an interesting convergence of rules there in the new edition.

Altruizine wrote:

Zathras wrote:
Those templates don't look like they'll stand up to much usage. I see those blue lightning bolt things that hold the center dot breaking way too easily, letting it fall out.

Some people seem to be seeing those blue lightning parts as inserts, whereas I think it's more likely that the whole template is made out of that transparent blue plastic, and the metallic parts are painted on. They should be pretty durable in that case.

If the templates are solid in the middle then they will be durable but, from the pictures of them on the GW website, it looks to me the only thing in the middle of the templates are the clear blue plastic lightning bolts. If there is plastic in the middle it's the clearest plastic I've ever seen.

Altruizine wrote:Some people seem to be seeing those blue lightning parts as inserts, whereas I think it's more likely that the whole template is made out of that transparent blue plastic, and the metallic parts are painted on. They should be pretty durable in that case.

Going by the pics on the GW website, the blue lightning bits are all that is in the middle. They're not solid.


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Reivax26 wrote:Is that rulebook $75? I know its hardback but holy crap thats expensive. Thats 2 weeks worth of gas for my car that gets me to and from work. I think I am going to wait for the little rulebook and just use the one at the local store for games lol

I just pre-ordered for AU$99 through Milsims, with their standard 20% discount. That's only about $10 more than a new video game here in Oz... and I'll get a whole lot more use out of it.

Man I am pyked I may be able to play my SM and at least part of my eldar army at the same time.

My excitement is building especially for the fact that it appears my humble DA army is going to own again >

The unknown marine image is of a pre-heresy Death Guard, probably Garro. Look it up.

I was watching the trailer and thought I would write down some observations

Vehicle types
Chariot, Fast, Flyer, heavy, hover, open topped, skimmer, tank, transport, walker.

Flyer rules for zoom

Combat speed is 18, cruising is 36
fire 4 weapons at either speed
zooming flyers cant be assaulted

New ork fliers just got a lot better. Now they can drop the bomb after going 36 and still fire.

Altruizine wrote:Some people seem to be seeing those blue lightning parts as inserts, whereas I think it's more likely that the whole template is made out of that transparent blue plastic, and the metallic parts are painted on. They should be pretty durable in that case.

Zathras wrote:If the templates are solid in the middle then they will be durable but, from the pictures of them on the GW website, it looks to me the only thing in the middle of the templates are the clear blue plastic lightning bolts. If there is plastic in the middle it's the clearest plastic I've ever seen.

insaniak wrote:
Going by the pics on the GW website, the blue lightning bits are all that is in the middle. They're not solid.

I think what Altruizine meant was the whole template is cast in a one-er from the same clear blue plastic and the outer parts are simply painted. Meaning it will be more durable as it's one whole piece instead of separate blue lightning inserts. He's not saying it's a solid template.

Zathras wrote:
If the templates are solid in the middle then they will be durable but, from the pictures of them on the GW website, it looks to me the only thing in the middle of the templates are the clear blue plastic lightning bolts. If there is plastic in the middle it's the clearest plastic I've ever seen.

insaniak wrote:
Going by the pics on the GW website, the blue lightning bits are all that is in the middle. They're not solid.

You guys may have misunderstood me. Pic attached for clarity.

If the template is a single piece of plastic (clear blue, with metal painted on the rings) it should stand up to careful use. If the blue lightning bolts and the metal rings are separate pieces of plastic then the templates are a complete calamity, and will fall apart quickly.

Neither of those solutions would be as sturdy as the completely transparent "windows" you guys thought I was talking about, but they would also have been an overly complicated way to manufacture these.

Edit: Thanks, Glorioski

One important thing to note on zoom moving is you may only make one turn of 90 degrees during a zoom. I was actually impressed as they had the foresight to also mention that you may enter the board from reserves at any angle as long as it does not immediately take you off the board again...avoiding the whole inevitable argument about that first angle counting against the allowed 1 "turn".

It should make fliers easier to use than the pancake version, but at the same time still require some careful forethought and planning if you have a bunch of them zipping around the board.

Thanks to insaniak, I have ordered the rulebook for not an insane(iak!) price.

warpcrafter wrote:i just hope that there are special fortifications for Xenos.

In the grim darkness of the far future, even the Eldar use Imperial Bastions!

Now we need a consolidated list of the places that we can preorder from!
The Warstore, Miniature Market have been mentioned, where else? I'd like to order the
Gamers Edition, but not sure who's got the best price.

Ledabot wrote:Mwa ha ha! I got a special for the book! only $100 or $76US!

Such a good bunch at my flgs.

Lucky guy, I managed $120 for mine which I feel is fair enough considering the retail of $146

I could probably of got it cheaper if a shopped around but hey, my FLGS do good work and I dont mind paying a bit more to give them my money

so awesome. Went to GW tonight and preordered the games edition. That being said, going to review the new rulebook and look at the trends with allies and such over the next few months and decide what new armies to start. in the meantime...have 3k points of fantasy to build n paint.

well done gw...well done

Dicebucket.com has the 6th Ed Codex for $59 USD

dorantana wrote:Dicebucket.com has the 6th Ed Codex for $59 USD

I've heard not so glowing reviews about them. Can they get the Gamer's edition?

ShumaGorath wrote:Is the large flying base the only this that makes a flyer a flyer..?

Nope, the Large Oval base does not a flier make. What matters is the cross shaped clear flying stem. Only fliers use those, while other models use the large oval base.

FullDevilJacket wrote:The unknown marine image is of a pre-heresy Death Guard, probably Garro. Look it up.

What 'unknown marine image'?

MajorWesJanson wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Is the large flying base the only this that makes a flyer a flyer..?

Nope, the Large Oval base does not a flier make. What matters is the cross shaped clear flying stem. Only fliers use those, while other models use the large oval base.

what exactly have you heard?
Does anybody else have a good reason to fear DB?
just curious. have never ordered anything from them

can someone give me a link to the website that is giving me the bacon?

EDIT: I mean can someone give me a link to the website that is selling the BRB at a discount price?

Blitza da warboy wrote:can someone give me a link to the website that is giving me the bacon?

EDIT: I mean can someone give me a link to the website that is selling the BRB at a discount price?

http://www.baconfreak.com/

damn, ninja'd !

It appears based on this page that Flat Out is no longer restricted to Fast vehicles, interested to see what effects Fast will actually have now.



So as to help you guys not have to strain your eyes too much, this is the best I could do copying it out, the distance is probably 6 inches, but I can't actually make out much beyond the fact it is single digit.

Moving Flat Out - A vehicle can elect to move Flat Out instead of firing in the Shooting phase, immediately moving up to <unreadable> inches, this move triggers dangerous terrain <unreadable>. A Tank cannot move Flat Out in the same turn that it performs a Tank Shock

The second <unreadable> is "as normal".

Looks like blast weapons always do full damage, regardless of where the center of the hole is! Glorious day.

Thats cuz it now dosnt minus BS and is fully what you roll.

Now my Possesed Defiler is just as deadly as a IG Battle tank.

I haven't seen anything that mentioned blast weapons, have a source for that?

uh biomancy?
can someone explain!
my guess is that they shape-shift enemies or themselves like in prototype.

broodstar wrote:The rulebook is $75 UK or $116 USA

Do I have this right?!

Is that just the book or the starter box with the models?

And its 60 Euro, here is the German site (up since today): http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440160a&rootCatGameStyle=

Looks like the gamers edition and ultimate bundle are already gone on the NZ and Aus GW sites, surely not sold out already, must be some error there?

Just checked Feebay and the cheapest preorder I could find, ATM, was for $60.50 USD., shipped.
Don't see any Special editions at all. I'm sure that'll change once people start getting them in.