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60 is damn sure better than 75. That reminds me I meant to research exactly how much money they have in a Stormraven....

Interesteing to see that Psykers aren't psychics using willpower anymore, but in reality sorcerers, using magic.

"I don't think so, when messing around with that much money they couldn't afford to make a stocking mistake like that!" according to a games workshop member of staff

MajorWesJanson wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Is the large flying base the only this that makes a flyer a flyer..?

Nope, the Large Oval base does not a flier make. What matters is the cross shaped clear flying stem. Only fliers use those, while other models use the large oval base.

Does the rulebook say that? The white dwarf doesn't.

Random interesting stuff I noticed from the preorder video on the GW website:
* who can strike in assault is now models in base to base and models within six inch of a friendly model in base to base;
* players still roll off to see who deploys first;
* allies of convenience treat eachother as enemies that cannot be charged, shot or targeted with psychics, can't benefit from eachother's Warlord traits, can't be joined by eachother's ICs, etc. This of course implies that other levels of allies can;
* the multi-laser loses its AP (36", STR 6, AP -, Heavy 3).

Mandor wrote:* the multi-laser loses its AP (36", STR 6, AP -, Heavy 3).

WTF? Why?
Couldn't be that everyone has their's with ML? Let's make evryone buy new models?

Really not that big of a deal, but I can't see why it needed changing.

Drunkspleen wrote:It appears based on this page that Flat Out is no longer restricted to Fast vehicles, interested to see what effects Fast will actually have now.



So as to help you guys not have to strain your eyes too much, this is the best I could do copying it out, the distance is probably 6 inches, but I can't actually make out much beyond the fact it is single digit.

Moving Flat Out - A vehicle can elect to move Flat Out instead of firing in the Shooting phase, immediately moving up to <unreadable> inches, this move triggers dangerous terrain <unreadable>. A Tank cannot move Flat Out in the same turn that it performs a Tank Shock

Well aside from that, it looks like line of sight and AP are still the same mechanics.

Mandor wrote:Random interesting stuff I noticed from the preorder video on the GW website:
* who can strike in assault is now models in base to base and models within six inch of a friendly model in base to base;

No.

You were looking at the rules for conducting combat in a multi-level ruin; the 6" figure only applies for models on different levels. For models on the same level it's still 2", and if you'd read the entire bolded area of the rule you reference you would have seen that.

Good job breaking the heart of every Ork or Tyranid player who reads your post, though.

N.I.B. wrote:Interesteing to see that Psykers aren't psychics using willpower anymore, but in reality sorcerers, using magic.

Plz tell me the difference between psychics/willpower and sorcerors/magic in 500 words or less, please. Heck, take 1000 if you need them.

Altruizine wrote:

Mandor wrote:Random interesting stuff I noticed from the preorder video on the GW website:
* who can strike in assault is now models in base to base and models within six inch of a friendly model in base to base;

No.

You were looking at the rules for conducting combat in a multi-level ruin; the 6" figure only applies for models on different levels. For models on the same level it's still 2", and if you'd read the entire bolded area of the rule you reference you would have seen that.

Good job breaking the heart of every Ork or Tyranid player who reads your post, though.

Woops, you're right! Guess I need my coffee before posting early in the morning.

I cant find the gamers edition on the GW website

ChocolateGork wrote:I cant find the gamers edition on the GW website

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440160a&prodId=prod1620046a

N.I.B. wrote:Interesteing to see that Psykers aren't psychics using willpower anymore, but in reality sorcerers, using magic.

Just like always then?

ShumaGorath wrote:

MajorWesJanson wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Is the large flying base the only this that makes a flyer a flyer..?

Nope, the Large Oval base does not a flier make. What matters is the cross shaped clear flying stem. Only fliers use those, while other models use the large oval base.

Does the rulebook say that? The white dwarf doesn't.

I think what makes a flyer a flyer is the word "Flyer" under its unit type in the unit list at the back of the rulebook.

But that's just me.

lord_blackfang wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

MajorWesJanson wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Is the large flying base the only this that makes a flyer a flyer..?

Nope, the Large Oval base does not a flier make. What matters is the cross shaped clear flying stem. Only fliers use those, while other models use the large oval base.

Does the rulebook say that? The white dwarf doesn't.

I think what makes a flyer a flyer is the word "Flyer" under its unit type in the unit list at the back of the rulebook.

But that's just me.

Safe guess.

lord_blackfang wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

MajorWesJanson wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Is the large flying base the only this that makes a flyer a flyer..?

Nope, the Large Oval base does not a flier make. What matters is the cross shaped clear flying stem. Only fliers use those, while other models use the large oval base.

Does the rulebook say that? The white dwarf doesn't.

I think what makes a flyer a flyer is the word "Flyer" under its unit type in the unit list at the back of the rulebook.

But that's just me.

Not completely accurate, the rumor does mention flying monstrous creatures, and IIRC Tyants, Harpies and Princes all have wings, so they're flying monstrous creatures

Mandor wrote:

ChocolateGork wrote:I cant find the gamers edition on the GW website

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440160a&prodId=prod1620046a

Yeah that link don't work for NZ/AU web pages, as I posted before, they might already be sold out

broodstar wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

MajorWesJanson wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Is the large flying base the only this that makes a flyer a flyer..?

Nope, the Large Oval base does not a flier make. What matters is the cross shaped clear flying stem. Only fliers use those, while other models use the large oval base.

Does the rulebook say that? The white dwarf doesn't.

I think what makes a flyer a flyer is the word "Flyer" under its unit type in the unit list at the back of the rulebook.

But that's just me.

Not completely accurate, the rumor does mention flying monstrous creatures, and IIRC Tyants, Harpies and Princes all have wings, so they're flying monstrous creatures

So a new category: FMC?

alarmingrick wrote:

broodstar wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

MajorWesJanson wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Is the large flying base the only this that makes a flyer a flyer..?

Nope, the Large Oval base does not a flier make. What matters is the cross shaped clear flying stem. Only fliers use those, while other models use the large oval base.

Does the rulebook say that? The white dwarf doesn't.

I think what makes a flyer a flyer is the word "Flyer" under its unit type in the unit list at the back of the rulebook.

But that's just me.

Not completely accurate, the rumor does mention flying monstrous creatures, and IIRC Tyants, Harpies and Princes all have wings, so they're flying monstrous creatures

So a new category: FMC?

Or just MCs with wings count as flyers.

Sorry, forgot my " " after my comment!

broodstar wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:

broodstar wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

MajorWesJanson wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Is the large flying base the only this that makes a flyer a flyer..?

Nope, the Large Oval base does not a flier make. What matters is the cross shaped clear flying stem. Only fliers use those, while other models use the large oval base.

Does the rulebook say that? The white dwarf doesn't.

I think what makes a flyer a flyer is the word "Flyer" under its unit type in the unit list at the back of the rulebook.

But that's just me.

Not completely accurate, the rumor does mention flying monstrous creatures, and IIRC Tyants, Harpies and Princes all have wings, so they're flying monstrous creatures

So a new category: FMC?

Or just MCs with wings count as flyers.

Flyers are a class of vehicle.

Flying Monstrous Creatures are something completely different, although they may mimic some of the effects and limitations found in the Flyer rules.

Does anyone know when the new starter pack (Chaos+DA) is coming out?

Gork and Mork wrote:Does anyone knwwhen te ew starterr pack (Chaos+DA) is coming out?

September.

Pre-ordered the Gamer's Edition from the US site, because am comfortable enough with my sexuality to carry a brown, faux-leather(?) messenger bag; and my current messenger bag is on its last legs already.



However, after ordering it, I realized something that would make me a sad panda: what if those objective/dice holders are Finecast?





Also, I am really psyched about 6th Ed. I know lots of people are not, however as I started playing 40k in 5th Ed., this is the first time that anything really new has happened insofar as I'm concerned. The Necron codex dropped two months after I started, so it's not like I really had much experience with the old one, and thus no real sense of wonder about the new one. And since I started playing last summer, I haven't seen any other new codices for 40k. So to me, 6th Ed. is kinda like seeing the first snowfall of winter: everything seems fresh and new.

And if people don't take the game too seriously, I think they'll be able to enjoy the rules, irrespective of how broken the allies thing will be. (let's face it: TFG is always gonna be TFG, whether it's with 6 Psyrifledreads, or with 6 Psyrifledreads, Bjorn and some Long Fangs.) The allies won't wreck the balance any more than it already is.

azazel the cat wrote:Pre-ordered the Gamer's Edition from the US site, because am comfortable enough with my sexuality to carry a brown, faux-leather(?) messenger bag; and my current messenger bag is on its last legs already.



However, after ordering it, I realized something that would make me a sad panda: what if those objective/dice holders are Finecast?

Then they better be ready for alot of replacements?

azazel the cat wrote:Pre-ordered the Gamer's Edition from the US site, because am comfortable enough with my sexuality to carry a brown, faux-leather(?) messenger bag; and my current messenger bag is on its last legs already.



However, after ordering it, I realized something that would make me a sad panda: what if those objective/dice holders are Finecast?

They aren't going to be FC really......they have to be able to have the dice taken in and out of them regularly.

Mandor wrote:

ChocolateGork wrote:I cant find the gamers edition on the GW website

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440160a&prodId=prod1620046a

Just sends me to the home page.


It isnt there in 40k advance orders either.

And now collectors is gone as well.



Not really a problem though.

Im not fool enough to pay 124$ for a book.

ChocolateGork wrote:

Mandor wrote:

ChocolateGork wrote:I cant find the gamers edition on the GW website

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440160a&prodId=prod1620046a

Just sends me to the home page.


It isnt there in 40k advance orders either.

And now collectors is gone as well.



Not really a problem though.

Im not fool enough to pay 124$ for a book.

Yeah it looks like the Games and Collectors edition are all sold out Australia wide. The remaining components and the regular rule book are not limited time, and more importantly available from your FLGS. I've ordered mine from Milsims already.

Looks like we won't have to wait for the rest of this years white dwarfs to see the spine picture:



Hmm looks like he was a Dark Angel after all!

I don't understand why they have replaced Ultramarines as the poster boys of gw, not that I'm complaining.

Just to comfirm with the above, the gamers and collectors edition look to be sold out in both Australia and NZ

tuiman wrote:I don't understand why they have replaced Ultramarines as the poster boys of gw, not that I'm complaining.

Just to comfirm with the above, the gamers and collectors edition look to be sold out in both Australia and NZ

What do you mean? Calgar is on the left.