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 BaronIveagh wrote:
 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

I’ll let you into a secret. Unless you converted, kitbashed or resculpted all of your troops, your army always did look like everyone else’s.


*Points to his gallery.*


You must have missed my posts in the conversions threads. Generally speaking, if its plastic or resin, I may have a mini or two that's not modified in some way in an entire army or fleet.


I really don’t know what point you’re trying to make anymore. You won’t buy monopose because you want your minis to look different from other peoples, but you convert all of your minis?

Erm ... ok.
   
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 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

I really don’t know what point you’re trying to make anymore. You won’t buy monopose because you want your minis to look different from other peoples, but you convert all of your minis?

Erm ... ok.


Dude, I've SEEN your gallery, I KNOW you know what I'm talking about. Multipose minis are WAY easier to convert well then monopose, particularly in bulk, where you can sculpt several bits and then cast as many as you need. Monopose you have to cut up and then reculpt every single mini with greenstuff to get hte same level of individuality. While for something like Kill team, that's fine, but with regular 40k armies it becomes a pain in the ass.


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 BaronIveagh wrote:
 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

I really don’t know what point you’re trying to make anymore. You won’t buy monopose because you want your minis to look different from other peoples, but you convert all of your minis?

Erm ... ok.


Dude, I've SEEN your gallery, I KNOW you know what I'm talking about. Multipose minis are WAY easier to convert well then monopose, particularly in bulk, where you can sculpt several bits and then cast as many as you need. Monopose you have to cut up and then reculpt every single mini with greenstuff to get hte same level of individuality. While for something like Kill team, that's fine, but with regular 40k armies it becomes a pain in the ass.


We’re possibly way off topic, but there’s a difference between a simple kitbash and a full on conversion. Kitbashing is a great way to tweak the look of basic troops, but I think you’re kidding yourself if you think it creates real individuality. I’ve seen a lot of pretty much identical kitbashes using the same bits. So I don’t really see monopose as an issue. You can still cut off and swap heads, arms, weapons because plastic makes all of that easy.

Besides, when it comes to my own minis, my favourite conversions of mine are all based on monopose mins
   
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 MonkeyBallistic wrote:


We’re possibly way off topic, but there’s a difference between a simple kitbash and a full on conversion. Kitbashing is a great way to tweak the look of basic troops, but I think you’re kidding yourself if you think it creates real individuality. I’ve seen a lot of pretty much identical kitbashes using the same bits. So I don’t really see monopose as an issue. You can still cut off and swap heads, arms, weapons because plastic makes all of that easy.

Besides, when it comes to my own minis, my favourite conversions of mine are all based on monopose mins


Yes, we're a bit off topic atm and you have your opinions, I have mine.


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I would give my left nut for some proper sister reveals any time soon.
   
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They just showed off the squad.
And its a regular article feature.

Not sure what more a spare nut would buy

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Voss wrote:
They just showed off the squad.
And its a regular article feature.

Not sure what more a spare nut would buy


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 John Prins wrote:
 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

We were talking monopose versus multipart


I was being somewhat facetious, but to imply that two armies of the same models cannot be distinguished from another once painted is absurd as well. SoB players have been working with a set amount of sculpts, zero pose options for decades and I didn't see the complaint being "my models are the saaaaaaaaame as everyone else!", it was cost and having to work with/lug around metals.


Are you talking about those metal sisters that everyone had and sold so well? I guess GW is just hoping to make their plastics as successful as those old metals, then.

PS: Did you just say you didn't hear complaints from SOB players in decades?



We don't have images of sprue layouts, we don't know how many different sets of arms and heads there are to go with each body. We don't know if these renders are ETB or "Versus" box set miniatures with zero options or if they're the baseline kits. If all three of these things exist, you've probably got 23-odd different baseline sisters sculpts, including 2-3 Sister Superiors, and head swapping from the baseline kit to ETB/Versus kits adds more variety. So how many unique baseline sisters sculpts do we need before the monopose/multipart argument because largely immaterial? My multipart CWE Guardians are all so terribly unique, after all.




I'd prefer for them to be closer to marine and guard plastics in terms of swappability and convertibility than to Van Saar. Van Saar may have technically had "enough" options for a creative modeler, but that kit became frustrating surprisingly quickly.

   
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 Tiberius501 wrote:
Voss wrote:
They just showed off the squad.
And its a regular article feature.

Not sure what more a spare nut would buy


Moar! I need MOAR!


Sisters are in a bit of a funny position. On the one hand, we're entering that 3-4 month window GW likes to start teasing big releases in, for which Sisters surely qualify. Presumably at this point it's a given that we'll get more information and you don't need to pay in body parts for it. On the other hand, with the Battle Sister Bulletin as a prominent marketing tool that they need enough material to to make at least passable articles every other week, Sisters might actually get less in the way of big reveals at events than other releases.

Anyway, August 3 may be the day to look out for with an Apocalypse event at Warhammer and the following as per Warhammer Community:

As part of the celebrations, you’ll be treated to a special Warhammer Preview of some of the awesome new stuff that’s on its way for Warhammer 40,000!

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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
 John Prins wrote:
 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

We were talking monopose versus multipart


I was being somewhat facetious, but to imply that two armies of the same models cannot be distinguished from another once painted is absurd as well. SoB players have been working with a set amount of sculpts, zero pose options for decades and I didn't see the complaint being "my models are the saaaaaaaaame as everyone else!", it was cost and having to work with/lug around metals.


Are you talking about those metal sisters that everyone had and sold so well? I guess GW is just hoping to make their plastics as successful as those old metals, then.


They sold well enough to keep the Sisters from being squatted. That's better than Squats, Brettonians or Tomb Kings - both of the latter two actually had large parts of their ranges in plastics!


PS: Did you just say you didn't hear complaints from SOB players in decades?


No, if you read what I wrote, the complaints were about the miniatures being METAL, heavy and expensive. People wanted plastic sisters. Sure, people wanted them to be updated as well, but I don't think anyone reasonable was thinking we could get multi-pose plastics that matched the original aesthetics without running into some other unacceptable compromise, like 30 part infantry miniatures. Which GW wasn't ever going to do, because GW likes their stuff being accessible to new players.

   
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I'd still prefer some more mundane poses if I get monopose infantry…

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 Alpharius wrote:
You'll get 20% tactical rocks and/or skulls and you'll like it!!!


If it means 10 unique poses in the box I'm good with that. I can chop them off and toss my own little something down there to vary it up if it bothers me.
   
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/07/22/battle-sister-bulletin-part-12-repentgw-homepage-post-3/

New Sister Repentia, now PG-13

I like them chopping pose, very brutal. no marine's lame pose

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Canterbury

very nice.


sorta related

https://twitter.com/MightyJimmer/status/1152717101922172928

from SD Comic Con

Spoiler:







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Chopstick wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/07/22/battle-sister-bulletin-part-12-repentgw-homepage-post-3/

New Sister Repentia, now PG-13

I like them chopping pose, very brutal. no marine's lame pose


Not quite the civilian clothes I was ideally hoping for, but I’ll take it as a compromise between their classic look and not looking like a cartoonish idea of fetish gear.
   
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USA

That Repentia post also includes a nice bit of lore too, on how Sisters interface with their power armor.

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As much a fan as I am of models that can be converted in to Slaaneshi cultists, I think those are quite a good rework that fit the army *much* more.
   
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The more I see them the more I like it. It's very punk. And the fact that Repentia can prove themselves and rejoin their Order is a plus-- that wasn't ever talked about before.

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Cardiff

More excellent models!

 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
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GW please stop making these stunning models. I don't want a SOB army. Pleassseee
   
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 Melissia wrote:
That Repentia post also includes a nice bit of lore too, on how Sisters interface with their power armor.


Specifically, through a system of nerve ports that are totally not the same thing as black carapace for realises.
   
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Oh very nice. Lots of meaty background elements incorporated into the sculpts.
And they actually look good, despite being 'action poses.'

Looks like they put some effort and thought into the new repentia.

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Not good enough.

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Very awesome. I think it's one of the best Sisters bulletin, it really shows us new things! The rest was very close to the current look, those are different.
But how will the Mistress of redemption look like?

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I like them. I liked the nekkid crazies, too. In the end it's wash for me if they're more or less clothed crazy zealots, but the poses are a lot better than the old ones, so they win.

PS: That cosplay squad is understrength. HERESY!

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With gw’s excellent grasp of scale I know I should not worry but eyeballing it they look like they are bigger than the pa sisters.

It looks like we are getting the first female marines after all.

Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis 
   
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changemod wrote:
 Melissia wrote:
That Repentia post also includes a nice bit of lore too, on how Sisters interface with their power armor.


Specifically, through a system of nerve ports that are totally not the same thing as black carapace for realises.


Well, they aren't. Since they're limited fully cybernetic implants for adults rather than a biological modification to adolescents.

Its actually interesting to see long term effects of Imperial service, and what it really means for 'just humans'

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Ehhhh, not convinced by the spandex and running shoes...

I get that they didn't want to make them Witch Elves in space, but if they're going to be dressed, make that dress more interesting.

Technically good models, just not very interesting.
   
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Umbros wrote:
GW please stop making these stunning models. I don't want a SOB army. Pleassseee


+1!
Really loving these repentia models

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