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highlord tamburlaine wrote: Has there been any actual discussion of the game?
I mean, we know what the contents will be, but outside of that, have we seen rules? Gameplay?
I'm afraid just like Star Wars cosplayer made for Episode VII the "cosplay accurate character before the movie realease" trope, We have to do a "play the game before the rules release"
Actually the only "Space Crusade" product available from Prodos are the miniatures boxes, if you want to play you have to use GW rules (40K, Space Hulk/Crusade)
I'm wondering if Prodos is not waiting for the sales results of miniatures prior investing in game development.
I'm kind of curious about it. I've picked up a few pieces and I've been pleased with what I've gotten, despite the mutlipiece stuff missing parts.
Same for me, the miniatures are exactly what I expected, compare to Infinity and 40K ones, assembling them was a pleasure as most of them could stay without glue!
(the bolt & hole are very well cast and nearly as large as on MB ones, cyano glue works quite well on the resin once correctly cleaned with water & soap)
However, one of the Amazons came with a missing head but an extra arm :(
Reading how it was cumbersome for AvP player to get back some missing Predator limbs, I simply decided to reduce a GW Space Marine helmet to like a Knight Saber biker girl from Bubblegum Crisis rather than complaining & waiting for the missing head.
The Mabs were not only missing on base but were not identical (some with a slot, some plain).
Not a problem as I have enought extra GW ones butthat's a shame such a nice sculpting is spoiled by an awful packaging service.
Normally I will get soon my 2nd hand MB Heroquest (bought 40€ because of several missing miniature but as I have already everything from W40K and Prodos I didn't care)
Because of all these complains about AvP delay and the "Heroquest 25th syndrome" I was not really motivated for pre-ordering the Space Crusade box.
Until June I will therefore play the MB one and gently wait for rules comment and artwork on the cards as for MB, the event cards were a large contribution to the game immersion.
I remember how I was disappointed in Super Dungeon Explore (1st edition) by the use of generic of illustrations on treasure cards i.e. use of same sword picture for all weapons :(
If in June Prodos board game is still in preorder status, I will just by them another Crusaders box (telling them to check twice the content this time) and convert them with GW heavy weapons if the rocket launcher remains the only available one in the box.
My goal is to have a functional game (fully painted + 3D scenery) for a convention demo in summer holidays, not just something to dream about for X-Mas.
Automatically Appended Next Post: After the Blood Raven (played as BLOOD ANGELS)
here are the
IMPERIAL FISTS
ULTRAMARINES
in more or less "Codex version" (well more less than more...)
& in " bikini power armour" version
What should be the next gender bender ?
As GW already produce for Eldar: Banshees, female guardians, warlock and prophets I would suggest vs Space (Marines) Crusaders & Valkyries some Tau (Fire Warrior) Mujahiteen & Houris
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2016/05/29 11:23:58
Subject: Pure GW & mixed with Prodos + Arkham "Space Crusade"
Which one do you prefer
The Classic "no girl allowed" one
or the "pimp my game"(*) version using Prodos Mabs, Space Crusaders & Arkham AT-43 Tiamat
Full board views:
Honestly the first one could be an all-female cast for just the low cost of two headswap…
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
True story- Prodos got me my missing tail for my Archon within two week of me asking, which is pretty decent, keeping in mind that I'm on the other side of the globe.
They also included a base which he hadn't come with, but considering how huge the thing is, it barely even fits on it (seems a little bigger than the usual 60mm base).
I like the bodysuit Ultramarine you did Kriegspiel. Makes her look a lot less cheesecake-y, and a bit more like a competent soldier.
I went ahead and ordered some more Space Crusade stuff myself- a box of Inquisitors, Lamia, and Nyx.
I might do something similar with a bodysuit under the Inquisitor's armor. Maybe I'll do a bikini armor one just for the heck of it. Really curious to see the Unicast stuff in person myself.
Now if they could just release a few more big cool looking demons.
Curious as to what a Space Crusade style Bloodletter equivalent would look like...
Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!
I like the bodysuit Ultramarine you did Kriegspiel. Makes her look a lot less cheesecake-y, and a bit more like a competent soldier.
So you will probably also like Schwester Brunhild from Black Templar?
Actually IRL Teutonic Knights Order (aka Deutschritter) from which BT are based on is composed by both brotherhood (monks& priest) & sisterhood (nons)
http://www.deutschordensschwestern.de/ since originaly it was set to provide medical assistance form pilgrims then prussian colonist and you would expect a monk to be midwife. Of course there is no mixity in monastery covent.
Anyway Schwester Brunhild could perfectly be used as a Callidus ally joining a BT crusade against her chaos psycher target and who agreed that the best way to be accepted on a BT barge would be to wear (a light version) the BT scout equipment showing the black cross.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Callidus-Assassin
highlord tamburlaine wrote: Curious as to what a Space Crusade style Bloodletter equivalent would look like...
Good evening fellas, Kriegspiel pointed me here, so thought I would post my Mabs (Dark Mechanicus strike team) and Maras (Daemonettes with guns) here.
Did not read through the whole boob flame war, personally not sure why chaos whorshipper would bother with clothing ^^
Hhmm shame the poses destroy what little appeal the femirine had, the demons arnt so bad at least not the chunky ones. hopefully at some point gw makes a good update to SOB. Thank you for sharing, it is insightful to see them next to SM's, i hope you enjoy them.
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2016/07/04 11:35:36
Subject: Unboxing - Space Crusade: Crusaders, Valkyries
Well I don't speak Russian or whatever the guy is speaking, but he pointed out enough air bubbles and mold lines in the video to show me the casting isn't that great. Plus the gates are so large on the feet that cutting those off will probably net you a lost foot every now and again. Lots of detail shown, but still Prodos.
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
Those are regular resin, yeah. Says so on the box even. Not sure why I didn't realize that when I ordered. Probably assumed Unicast since the heroes are.
Any word on the actual game?
Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!
Yes according to July 4th publication on http://prodosgames.com/blog/sneak-peek-at-space-crusade-development "Space Crusade is one of our new projects that we are working on, and we are getting closer and closer to release. While there is still plenty of new things to add, game itself is at very advanced stage.
Rules are being ironed out, current stage is technical review. So you can expect more information about game's rules soon.
MAIN BOARD
Meanwhile we are happy to share with you some of our Work in Progress pictures. Those are two levels available for Space Crusade - "The Lost Temple" and "Forgotten City".
CORE BOX CONTENT UPDATE
While you all know well most of the Space Crusade models, we have yet not shared with you "the minions" - the nasty little creatures who are Mamoona's little helpers. Those are known as Lesser Demons and Demonettes.
While minions are core game only, you can always already get minis for game from our online shop as separate add-ons."
As you can see, Prodos Amazones, despite their smaller bikes mix quite well with Space Marines bikers
to see close view click on these pictures
By the way, if she read this post, I want to give a great thank to my brunette wife who was my muse while painting this Amazone
This is how I feel when painting Prodos minis
Remember that alternative name of MB Space Crusade was Starquest in analogy to Heroquest.
Despite Heroquest was popular because its dungeon furniture (chests, bookshelves, altar, fireplace, throne, tomb,...) in addition to the doors, Space Crusade/Starquest provided only doors.
Therefore, in addition to Prodos minis, you can also make your Starquest epicer by using SF scenery from Spartan Miniatures ( http://www.spartangames.co.uk/products/spartan-scenics/accessories ) as I suggested before.
Here is now the result:
It look the game would be more a T-RPG with XP + equipment looting than pure tactical wargame.
There are already plenty of SF wargame but very few SF dungeon crawling.
Several people complain that even Star Wars Imperial Assault didn't really feature this.
(Did they expect to cumulate medikits like heal potion and find a light saber or a rocket launcher just by "searching room for treasure" or is the loot so rare?)
One of the reason I didn't by Doom boardgame was because corridors and rooms were empty compared to the ones in the video game.
Note that neither Space Hulk, Deathwatch Overkill nor Assassinorum: Execution Force provide any 3D scenery (except the door) so I opposite to Star Wars miniature, except wall, corner & doors, cover (like crate, table, desk,..) was inexistant.
If doing this (even in card board) Prodos would get advantage VS GW/MB...
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2016/07/06 17:43:03
Subject: A little more about Space Crusade background.
Many people identified (wrongly) final boss Mamoona as some kind of misogynistic female version of Nurgle Great Unclean One because of its appearence
while her name was looking like the feminine of Hell Prince of Greed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammon
This idea of exchanging/mixing non-human spawn with human babies is quite common in fantasy mythology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changeling but also in SciFi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_(film)
Face Hugger Eggs that Giger Alien insert in both male or female also grown differently depending of species (human of Alien I & II, dog of Alien III)
W40K Genestealer also mix their DNA via a pseudo-kiss with their victim creating hybrids.
Kriegspiel wrote: Many people identified (wrongly) final boss Mamoona as some kind of misogynistic female version of Nurgle Great Unclean One because of its appearence
Well, it works perfectly as a female version of a Great Unclean (and let's be honest, all models work as female version of GW ones, being usable as proxy was part of the idea), and that is definitely not the model from the range that I would call misogynistic.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
What should be the next gender bender ?
As GW already produce for Eldar: Banshees, female guardians, warlock and prophets I would suggest vs Space (Marines) Crusaders & Valkyries some Tau (Fire Warrior) Mujahiteen & Houris
Prodos official painter is skillful, but actually you get the mini unpainted. Moreover, the online shop photos shows only the front side of the minis and not the rocket launcher option that is both in Crusaders & Maras box. Therefore, here are some high resolution front & back side closer views of undercoated only minis Fistr the girl I assume to be the leader and the rocket launcher servant
and the whole squad of Crusaders & Maras
As you can see there are 2 "official" maras poses where the "bolter" is hold with 2 hands that are NOT available by default. To reproduce them, you HAVE TO cut the arms to make the conversions..
Here is how Crusaders look like after only skin & weapon painting over the white undercoat Note that Prodos minis have such quality that at this point lazy players could just do an ink wash on the crusaders and start to play despite the squad looks much more like "Western Australian Angels" team from the Lingerie Football League rather than an actual female SWAT team (like the chinese ones)
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Since the online shop only displays front picture of MABS, here is the other side as somebody requested it by mail to me
However, due to the skull helmet and pauldron the upper view and right side view are more impressive
(click to zoom)
I quite like also how the cabling of the weapon looks like some blood vessel and the Giger like biomechanical aspect of the armor/exoskeleton
I still have some hesitation about the left gauntlet, should I make it look like white bone, black claw or metal pincers ?
same for the eyes:
- deadly white
- normal as if she was still conscious and torture by the mechanicsm
- red has if she was possessed
Just now they are closed like if the girl was comatose and her body used like a puppet by the (darksymetrie) mechanicsm
Waiting for more information about Space Crusade background to decide.
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As you can see there are 2 "official" maras poses where the "bolter" is hold with 2 hands that are NOT available by default.
To reproduce them, you HAVE TO cut the arms to make the conversions..
I managed those poses without having to carve anything away, at least with the box of Maras that I won on a Facebook give-away. The Crusaders may be different. I don't own any, so I wouldn't know.
I get the feeling that someone said originally "Make them look like Sisters of Battle.....no, too much clothing....make them more like if they were Sisters of Slaanesh, but with SOME small amount of clothing on."
Meanwhile, Prodos didn't release any information since it was "getting closer and closer to release" on the 4th July. Did the Crusader die during Independance II Day fight against aliens?
For this reason, I'm currently creating my own equipment and event cards for playing it with GW / MB rules
2nd step will be to make for people who don't own these dice
Here are 3 equipments
2 events
and one order card
The picture used are "No known copyright restrictions" (Public Domain) or "Commercial use & mods allowed" (needs to indicate the owner) from https://www.flickr.com/photos/ and http://www.thinkstockphotos.fr/ that have been cropped to make them PGP13 and resized for the cards.
Owners of the original pictures are "wifelee", "140933033@N05", "bootstrutbarbara" and "dreamleague" as the original are "Restricted" I can (and must because of https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ rules) give you the author ID but can't give direct links because of dakkadakka forum rules (anyway without a 18+ flickr account the links won't work)
The cards border are GW/MB properties (are at least were since "Space Crusade" trademark is now Prodos property.
Therefore you should use them ONLY if you have an MB/GW Space Crusade box.
If you find other picture/description idea fitting with "Prodos style" please publish them.
Just imagine a dozen of you make their own 5 or 6 card we will get a 60 a common card deck that could be independant from GW/MB one.
By the way has anybody ideas for the cards borders and back-side?
I would propose something like this for equipment set (mixing bootstrutbarbara glove (cropped, rotated and mirror) for item & wifelee body (just resized and cropped) for the background.
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