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Eumerin wrote:

If your that desperate to get your Storm Guardians into melee combat that you're actually going to run them in order to reach the enemy, then you're probably in very, very, very desperate straits... It's generally considered that the best thing about Storm Guardians is the fact that they can take two flamers (there are much better ways to get CC Troops squads and Fusion Guns).

That depends greatly on what your target is and what the squad is equipped/left with. It's very useful on them and I'm glad they have it.

SaintHazard wrote:Crap.

I was on... er... vacation again, and missed like seven pages.

I totally would've called IG at #1, mostly because everyone and their mother expected Orks at #1, and Melissia is crafty like that.

Don't worry, I called it for you.

Vaktathi wrote:

Eumerin wrote:

If your that desperate to get your Storm Guardians into melee combat that you're actually going to run them in order to reach the enemy, then you're probably in very, very, very desperate straits... It's generally considered that the best thing about Storm Guardians is the fact that they can take two flamers (there are much better ways to get CC Troops squads and Fusion Guns).

That depends greatly on what your target is and what the squad is equipped/left with. It's very useful on them and I'm glad they have it.

Be serious now - how frequently do you use Fleet with your Storm Guardians?

And the follow-up - how often do you actually see Storm Guardians outside of your own army? I've seen quite a few Eldar players, but the only Guardian squads that I've ever seen being used are of the Defender variety. And even those seem to be increasingly scarce these days.

Fleet is a largely superfluous ability for the Craftworld Eldar. There are a couple of units that can take advantage of it, but by and large most of our units would be better served by shooting instead of hoping to roll high enough on a d6 to be in range for an assault during the subsequent phase. And the kicker is that because specialization is built into the army, Fleet's currently superfluousness is the way that things are *supposed* to work (ignoring for the moment that Fleet was actually more like Run when the Codex was written).

Fleet isn't always useful, I can't deny that, however sometimes it is. If I have a choice of totally annihilating one enemy unit with flamers and then sitting there in the open, or getting into two different IG squads with a fleet move and being able to hide in CC for a turn before wiping them and moving on, I'll use that fleet ability. Stormguardians aren't too rare, they aren't super popular, but they aren't unheard of. Likewise with Defenders. Yes, Storms are primarily taken for flamers, they work very well for that, but that's not their sole purpose or capability.


Granted, Fleet is not what it once was for the Eldar, but it's also not unwelcome. I'm sure once Eldar get their 5E book (whenever that may be) unit design will take this into account and Fleet, even if the rule is unchanged, will become more useful and possibly more widely available to the army as a whole. It's not something that one can really do anything about now however.

Asherian Command wrote:Melessia when do you think the Storm Raven will come out? Or do you think the Grey Knights will come out first?

I think the two are intertwined.

-Loki- wrote:Man, I was actually looking at some Ork stuff today, as a possible third army when I have my Nids up and running - their new vehicles are absolutely badass.

The constant droning of 'Orks are the best' that tends to find its way into every thread has completely put me off playing them.

As opposed to, I dunno, Space Marines, Tyranids, Tau, Guard, Eldar...

(making the sound that Cheese makes from "foster's home for imaginary friends") I LIKE CHOCOLATE MILK!!!!.....and chocolate cookies, and any type of cookies, so long as they are real raisins, and not something else...lol. O yeah, umm, I was looking on forgeworld, and I saw a bunch of models that I haven't seen on games workshop. If i were to get these models, and want to use them, how would I go about using them, and where are there rules? Some1 dropped a hint about them being in those books you have to get from forgeworld, but they dont know which 1 it is...any clue?

krato123 wrote:(making the sound that Cheese makes from "foster's home for imaginary friends") I LIKE CHOCOLATE MILK!!!!.....and chocolate cookies, and any type of cookies, so long as they are real raisins, and not something else...lol. O yeah, umm, I was looking on forgeworld, and I saw a bunch of models that I haven't seen on games workshop. If i were to get these models, and want to use them, how would I go about using them, and where are there rules? Some1 dropped a hint about them being in those books you have to get from forgeworld, but they dont know which 1 it is...any clue?

First, you should start a new thread to ask this.
Second, we can't tell you what book they're in unless you tell us which models you're looking at.
Third, non sequitors are often less funny than you think they are.

1st, I play tau. I like tau.
2nd, tau.
3rd, that was an A. B. convo, mr. McDouche,....entitled 2 Melissia and her only...I didn't specify, but with me talking about the cookies, 1 would think you'd have enough common sense to realize I was talking to the person with the cookies...so unless you have a snickerdoodle or an answer to my question.....

What? I find that so wrong.

Some of us find spamming wrong too.

Everyone is disappointed, it seems.

*shakes head in disappointment. Pulls out a gun and shoots an Elite for enjoyment.*
He was taking my Klondike bar!
Anyway I really liked this thread glad to see other people liked it

This thread is now generating lots of Mod Alerts.

It seems as if it has reached its natural conclusion.

Goodnight.