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I thought the plastcraft swamp walkways were a nice alternative to the goblin town plastic gantries.

Modular, prepainted (albeit it's printed), pretty durable, and usually available for around 30 bucks or so.

Of course I like the plastcraft stuff in general. Some of their new Malifaux quarantine zone barricades might make for some good terrain.

 NobodyXY wrote:
How much in USD do you think It would take to fill a 4x4 with enough GW terrain for Necromunda?

Probably a lot. The Shadow War box's terrain, built as suggested with two platforms connected by a walkway, is about 22" long, 9.5" wide (with each level being 5" high). So you'd need about 16 of them to fill a 4x4 table - and that's not including if you wanted to have more than one floor. Creative use of negative space, walkways, and scatter terrain would go a long way, but I don't think it is financially feasible to produce something of the scale (three or four floors covering a table) of old school Necromunda cardboard terrain. Maybe if each player provides some, you could pool resources together (over a long period of time) to make a big table. Or, wait for Xmas bundles.

No experience with Necromunda, but Infinity requires a lot of terrain and there's really a lot of MDF and plasticard options available for it. I'd expect that maybe the majority of your terrain would be that stuff with the Shadow War terrain representing the more showy centerpieces.

Anybody got a source/summary on the bundle talk? I don't remember that rumor.

It was linked earlier on this page.

 Dryaktylus wrote:

Well, I hope (I guess you're talking about the Sector Mechanicus - the only fitting building from Sector Imperialis is the Manufactorum).

You're right. Not being a 40k player, all the Latin-ish names run together in my head. I'll just call it Shadow War terrain.

Do you mean really filling a 4'x4' table? If you're going with GW terrain...a lot - perhaps 3 or more of the SWA boxes (so 10-12 kits perhaps?). Even that wouldn't be particularly filled.

That being said, if you add a lot of height you can play in a 3'x3' or even a 2'x2' etc. But GW terrain wise - the SWA kit was pretty lackluster for a proper board. You'd need a bunch of them to really fill the table and prevent domination from a heavy sitting on a rooftop somewhere.

My Mordheim tables are normaly 4x4 or 6x4 and I have maybe 20+ buildings and a crap ton of ladders/walkways/etc. to make it all congested and interesting.

 Elbows wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
It will never ever be ppriced below 100 USD. I expect this to be about 200 CAD, so around 150-160 US

Not in a million years. SWA, and the Horus Heresy boxed games were that price with 2-3x as much content. This is 20 figures w/ card terrain...it'll be $100 or less. If not, it'll fail spectacularly.

I sincerly hope you're right, but I would be very very surprised.

On another topic, GW would really fumble the ball if they don't release a bundle of terrain witht this. I already have 3 SW:A terrain set, but I would buy a ton more (Wouldn't mind putting a 1000$) to make a full table if they release a bundle with decent saving. At the current price, I'm not buying anything

Thanks for the link. That giant MDF set linked earlier in the thread seems like a great deal now lol. I wonder how well the DW:OK tiles would match up to the sewers.

The battlezone industrial quadrant (at wayland games) seems very nice for 80 pounds. Any comments about battlezone buildings?

 NobodyXY wrote:
How much in USD do you think It would take to fill a 4x4 with enough GW terrain for Necromunda? I've not seen much GW terrain first hand. I do like the board game style releases but I don't think necromunda is a good choice for that style of treatment. I'm dreading the prices just in general.

Anybody got a source/summary on the bundle talk? I don't remember that rumor.

I like the idea of blank cards in the box though.

I have two SWA boxes, two additional Sector Mechanicus sets, two Haemotrope reactors and a whole 6x4 40K table worth of rocks/hills/bridges (densely packed 40K table compared to tournament standards) and it still gets me to second level above ground max. I basically use all my terrain for 4x4 Necromunda and it still could use a lot more, so I could go higher. Unfortunately, Necromunda is best played on awfully complicated tables. Using Sector Mechanicus terrain for proper Necromunda is definately not cheap by any standards...

Here is the set me and my friends play old Necromunda on.

Bit OTT but its fun

@Reluxor

Battlezones are okay if you don't mind seeing the clips and holes. Grab an extra set of clips or two if you plan to go that way. they paint fine.Glue them for better results. You'd need more than just that if you want multi level. I've got the ruined quadrant, about half of what comes in the set your looking at and a few pieces more and I'd say it would be adequate at 3x3 with 1-2 levels above ground.

@Nou
Yeah that's the problem if I want to keep the gothic theme I'd have to really shell out. thanks for the rundown!

@Raekone
thanks for the pictures! I like the density and the amount of walkways. the second seems more reasonable.

raekone wrote:
Here is the set me and my friends play old Necromunda on.

Bit OTT but its fun

Here is one of ours (4x8 for two games).

Well... since Shadow War came out I've managed to accumulate the Shadow War Terrain, one of these, two of these, two of these, two of these, two of these, two of these and five of these.

Plus I parts ordered a whole bunch of extra floors, one more Ferratonic Furnace (just the cylinder, nothing else) and 3 more of that big boiler/thingy that comes with most of the above kits, so we'll see if that covers your average Necro table.

That looks epic! I need some more buildings and such to make mine better.

Did you buy your other add ons from kits or make them?

Damn, Timd.....you have a lot of cool old Armorcast stuff on that setup! Their coke can storage tank kits are one of the cooler terrain kits out there, I think.

raekone wrote:
That looks epic! I need some more buildings and such to make mine better.

Did you buy your other add ons from kits or make them?

The green painted laser cut stuff is from Wargames Tournaments. The risers/platforms started as acrylic picture frames and most of the rest of the terrain is Armorcast resin. Mat is a cloth mat from Deep Cut mats.

Build thread/blog is on Yaktribe: https://yaktribe.org/community/threads/sevastopol-sector-terrain-blog.487/

T


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 AegisGrimm wrote:
Damn, Timd.....you have a lot of cool old Armorcast stuff on that setup! Their coke can storage tank kits are one of the cooler terrain kits out there, I think.

Well, I was one of the two guys who started Armorcast so it makes sense that I would have plenty of my own terrain. Shawn Lux sculpted the coke can storage tank kits, but the concept and layout/design were mine.

Most of that Armorcast terrain is still available.

T

 Grot 6 wrote:
Question- Do you think the Warhammer Ogers will fit on a 40MM sector base?

Easily. They currently ship with a 40mm square base with plenty of room to spare so putting them on a round base won't be an issue.

 Breotan wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
Question- Do you think the Warhammer Ogers will fit on a 40MM sector base?

Easily. They currently ship with a 40mm square base with plenty of room to spare so putting them on a round base won't be an issue.

Compared to the Ogryn, they are smaller. Do they have new Ogres, that are on the same size as the Newest Ogryn?

The guy looks kind of short on a 40mm base. Additionally, he is going to be just a head taller compared to my leader.

2 questions-

1.Do the Fantasy Ogres scale to the new IG Ogryn?

2. Do the new AOS Ogers scale to the older Fantasy Ogers?

Looking into alternatives for the Ogre attachment to the Gang, the one I have right now seems a little short fore the task.

On the issue of Scenery- These boards are Sweet!!! I am going to be gathering up another 4X4 board to add to the batch, as I also push forward.
My list on that is some more of that Mechanicus scenery, and add in the home made stuff from Lowes/ Home depot.

For the new board, I will be adding in depth with some 2 inch pink styro boards, and a resin sludge trench that I found for rail road water over in Hobby Lobby.

If necromunda isn't based around the terrain and 3D nature of the game anymore - being board based - there's not much point investing in terrain, is there? Unless it's possible to purchase terrain rules for the game at some point?

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
If necromunda isn't based around the terrain and 3D nature of the game anymore - being board based - there's not much point investing in terrain, is there? Unless it's possible to purchase terrain rules for the game at some point?

As people have repeated numerous, numerous times already: the boxed game uses tunnel fighting rules and Zone Mortalis card tiles so it's a complete product for first-time buyers, but that is not all Newcromunda is. The full rulebook(it's not presently clear if that's what's in the box or not, but it definitely will be sold separately and almost certainly on the same release day as the box) will have both standard labyrinthine-table-based Necro and new tunnel fighting Necro, and if you never want to fight in a tunnel ever you don't have to.

I see, it's a micro transaction style release? Makes sense as people can buy up to what they want.

Can we get spoiler tags on those massive pictures please?

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
I see, it's a micro transaction style release? Makes sense as people can buy up to what they want.

Any more than anything else most games companies do?

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
If necromunda isn't based around the terrain and 3D nature of the game anymore - being board based - there's not much point investing in terrain, is there? Unless it's possible to purchase terrain rules for the game at some point?

It is not board based, it's just that box set features minimalistic, single level, printed cardboard terrain... It uses tape measure distances and blasts, not grid based movement and ranges or area effects. You can play old Necro on the exact same Zone Mortalis type of terrain with just different gameplay experience than playing it on fully 3d table. Nothing in this regard really changes from what we know already...

While we've discussed it numerous times, I do think the flat boards will be an interesting thing to new players. While GW and the old Necromunda crowd know that Necromunda is supposed to be huge sprawling 3D boards, you may have a lot of new buyers who'll never realize that unless it's featured prominently in the rulebook, etc.

The original boxed game was very obvious in its 3D aspirations and inspired people to build more terrain to accompany the stuff that came in the box.

nou wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
If necromunda isn't based around the terrain and 3D nature of the game anymore - being board based - there's not much point investing in terrain, is there? Unless it's possible to purchase terrain rules for the game at some point?

It is not board based, it's just that box set features minimalistic, single level, printed cardboard terrain.....

Lol...is that marketing speak for "a board"?

I have some minimalistic future growth mystically imbued beans to sell you.

nou wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
If necromunda isn't based around the terrain and 3D nature of the game anymore - being board based - there's not much point investing in terrain, is there? Unless it's possible to purchase terrain rules for the game at some point?

It is not board based, it's just that box set features minimalistic, single level, printed cardboard terrain... It uses tape measure distances and blasts, not grid based movement and ranges or area effects. You can play old Necro on the exact same Zone Mortalis type of terrain with just different gameplay experience than playing it on fully 3d table. Nothing in this regard really changes from what we know already...

And Space Hulk-style tunnel fighting was already part of Necromunda 1st Ed with articles in Gang War issue 3 onwards, not new at all

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
I see, it's a micro transaction style release? Makes sense as people can buy up to what they want.

That's a pretty loaded term for "starter box and also a separate rulebook".

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

nou wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
If necromunda isn't based around the terrain and 3D nature of the game anymore - being board based - there's not much point investing in terrain, is there? Unless it's possible to purchase terrain rules for the game at some point?

It is not board based, it's just that box set features minimalistic, single level, printed cardboard terrain.....

Lol...is that marketing speak for "a board"?

I have some minimalistic future growth mystically imbued beans to sell you.

Don't like it? Don't buy it... I assume everyone following this thread knows your stance now...

Lets face it, the proposed boxed set is quite disappointing. The lack of real terrain is bad. That the rules will be based on 8th edition is worse.

I'll just go with my own terrain and stuff I have bought from non -GW sources. I still have the original rules and those can be buffed with inquisimunda

So, no thanks GW. You can't have my $.

ender502

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

nou wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
If necromunda isn't based around the terrain and 3D nature of the game anymore - being board based - there's not much point investing in terrain, is there? Unless it's possible to purchase terrain rules for the game at some point?

It is not board based, it's just that box set features minimalistic, single level, printed cardboard terrain.....

Lol...is that marketing speak for "a board"?

I have some minimalistic future growth mystically imbued beans to sell you.

It's a genuine and important distinction between board-based and free-terrain-based mechanics. Nothing of what we know about Newcromunda backs your stance. By your definition playing 40K on printed mats could be called "boardgame version of 40K"...Do you need different set of rules for playing 40K on mat and modelled table? No... I would agree with you, that Newcromunda is a boardgame if it's mechanics was similiar to grid-based Deadzone and playable only on supplied Zone Mortalis-like printed tiles. Which it is obviously not and we are dead certain about it at this point.

 Elbows wrote:
While we've discussed it numerous times, I do think the flat boards will be an interesting thing to new players. While GW and the old Necromunda crowd know that Necromunda is supposed to be huge sprawling 3D boards, you may have a lot of new buyers who'll never realize that unless it's featured prominently in the rulebook, etc.

The original boxed game was very obvious in its 3D aspirations and inspired people to build more terrain to accompany the stuff that came in the box.

They're interesting to all the old players I know. Also, given the video was mostly full of shots of the miniatures on Sector Mechanicus terrain, I reckon the rulebook will be full of pictures like that too.