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Glaive Company CO wrote:This thread is in danger of becoming derailed! Realy everyone here has missed the point entirely.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Why does GW hate the lost and the damned?

Because they're stupid and everyone hates them! They're stupider than the stupid space dwarves that everyone hated and they're more hated than the stupid Genestealer cults that are so stupid! And just becasue you can still find the stupid bad space elfs on ebay it doesn't mean we hate them any less. They're stupid too. Those stupid lists are gone so why shouldn't LOTR go the same way? I say good riddance to bad rubbish...bad stupid rubbish!

There we go, I have my answer!

they're ugly and their momma dressed them funny!

That and they lost the damned rules.

Ahem.

Well, anyone who still wants the Lost and the Damned need only go into cryogenic suspension until 40999 when they will reappear.

Sorry I'm late to the show.

Here is what I did to voice my concern, just so I can put in my street cred about "standing up to be noticed".

First, I signed an online petition. I realized this would have little to no effect on GW, so I did the next best thing I could. I wrote them a letter. However, I included more than just my polite scribblings, I also included a used IG sprue to demonstrate that I had put my money where my mouth was. In addition, I encourage other angry posters at various forums to do the same.

Could I have done more? Sure, I could have sent E-mails day in a day out with a different picture of boxes/blisters I had bought for my LaTD army. I could have sent more letters accompanied by more sprues. I could have made a youtube video and tried to make it viral in the GW online community.

However, I instead came to a realization. I simply don't want to spend my money on GW games. The LaTD was what brought me back to 40K, and without them I simply left the GW fold (at least in regards to making them additional money). So to summarize. I did the only thing that matters to GW. I stopped buying, and they will never know why, because their marketing /sales data will never tell them.

Thanks GW, because of you I am really good at creating my own support. I guess you didn't want my money. Thanks. I'll keep it for myself and your competition.

@ Easy E

Thats the first sensible statement this thread has had! You came to the table late, but it was worth the wait!

I guess none of your many posts had anything sensible in them?

He stated that Easy E just put down the first sensible post on this thread. So the others are probably not sensible and as long as "other" means any post before Easy E, his own posts are included.
In short:
Good guess.

LatD...do you already know what this summer campaign will be? Maybe a LatD comeback? Together with the demon 'dex?

very unprobable.

GW emplyoees (and I don't meen redshirts) have stated several times that there won't be such a thing as sub- or campaign lists anymore. and since LatD never were a "normal" GW army, I'll doubt they get redone (if ever) before Necrons, Torture Eldar and Space Puppys.


and then there's of course the factor that the most fun part of LatD were the conversions = no "real" LatD money for GW

@vogelfrei & tegeus-Cromis

Yes, I do include my own posts. Mostly because I was stupid enough to get hooked on some of the meanigless drivel people type to induce flame wars, and I should know better!

In my opinion, Easy E has hit the nail on the head.

How has he "hit it on the head"? All he's done--and I daresay all he intended to do--is describe his own situation and the decisions he's made. It doesn't invalidate what anyone else has said.

tegeus-Cromis wrote:How has he "hit it on the head"? All he's done--and I daresay all he intended to do--is describe his own situation and the decisions he's made. It doesn't invalidate what anyone else has said.

If thats what you feel is true, then more power to you! I did mention that my statement was, IN MY OPINION!....that you don't agree is not unexpected....

It sucks they got rid of Lost and the Damned i was building a blood pact list but as it is in the world somethings die and fad away.
but he plus side i got a butt load of bits to play with

please don't flame me

I think JohnHwangDD may actually be the resident of a weird Pleasantville-esque alternate reality where, instead of a 1950's sitcom, everything is like a 1980's underdog movie. It's obvious to anyone in 80's Movieland that the only way to save the LatD (and the youth center!) is for LatD players to band together and win the big tournament! Forget your petitions and letters - what we need is a MONTAGE!

~Cue scenes of LatD players assembling, converting, and painting mutants late into the night interspersed with shots of White Dwarf covers reading "New All-Daemon Codex Announced!" and "Baltimore Grand Tournament Biggest Ever! Special Studio Guest: Jervis Johnson".~
~Cue shot of Jervis yelling angrily at Alessio Cavatore - Jervis wordlessly mouths "NO MUTANTS" and rips up what appears to be a rough draft of a page from the upcoming daemon codex while a turgid synth launches into a spastic run over the driving guitars and electronic drums in the background.~
~Cue scenes of LatD players using their "counts as" armies in practice games against progressively more difficult opponents.~
~Cue shot of Tom Kirby throwing handfuls of money into the air while laughing maniacally.~
~Fade into shot of a pair of tumbling dice coming up box cars and an ecstatic LatD player in a tank top and short shorts pumping his fist into the air before jumping into the waiting arms of his similarly attired teammate in a totally manly and not-in-any-way-gay celebratory embrace while his crestfallen Tyranid opponent removes the final dakkafex from the table.~

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:I think JohnHwangDD may actually be the resident of a weird Pleasantville-esque alternate reality where, instead of a 1950's sitcom, everything is like a 1980's underdog movie. It's obvious to anyone in 80's Movieland that the only way to save the LatD (and the youth center!) is for LatD players to band together and win the big tournament! Forget your petitions and letters - what we need is a MONTAGE!

~Cue scenes of LatD players assembling, converting, and painting mutants late into the night interspersed with shots of White Dwarf covers reading "New All-Daemon Codex Announced!" and "Baltimore Grand Tournament Biggest Ever! Special Studio Guest: Jervis Johnson".~
~Cue shot of Jervis yelling angrily at Alessio Cavatore - Jervis wordlessly mouths "NO MUTANTS" and rips up what appears to be a rough draft of a page from the upcoming daemon codex while a turgid synth launches into a spastic run over the driving guitars and electronic drums in the background.~
~Cue scenes of LatD players using their "counts as" armies in practice games against progressively more difficult opponents.~
~Cue shot of Tom Kirby throwing handfuls of money into the air while laughing maniacally.~
~Fade into shot of a pair of tumbling dice coming up box cars and a truimphant LatD player pumping his fist into the air before jumping into the waiting arms of his similarly ecstatic teammate in a totally manly and not-in-any-way-gay celebratory embrace while his crestfallen Tyranid opponent removes the final dakkafex from the table.~

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Anung Un Rama wrote:very unprobable.

GW emplyoees (and I don't meen redshirts) have stated several times that there won't be such a thing as sub- or campaign lists anymore. and since LatD never were a "normal" GW army, I'll doubt they get redone (if ever) before Necrons, Torture Eldar and Space Puppys.


and then there's of course the factor that the most fun part of LatD were the conversions = no "real" LatD money for GW

I never really liked sub / campaign lists anyway. They always seemed like a gimmick, especially if they were released alongside a campaign booklet.

jfrazell wrote:Both sides are using personal attacks at this point. Please cease and desist or get me some popcorn so I can watch properly.

*yellow flag on the play*

Posing as a moderator.

15 yards.

2 Taser Treatments.

Play it where it lies/lays/whatever.

Only 15 yards? Drake posed as one for years, and only 15 yards? Go figure.

[ducks]

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:I think JohnHwangDD may actually be the resident of a weird Pleasantville-esque alternate reality where, instead of a 1950's sitcom, everything is like a 1980's underdog movie. It's obvious to anyone in 80's Movieland that the only way to save the LatD (and the youth center!) is for LatD players to band together and win the big tournament! Forget your petitions and letters - what we need is a MONTAGE!

~Cue scenes of LatD players assembling, converting, and painting mutants late into the night interspersed with shots of White Dwarf covers reading "New All-Daemon Codex Announced!" and "Baltimore Grand Tournament Biggest Ever! Special Studio Guest: Jervis Johnson".~
~Cue shot of Jervis yelling angrily at Alessio Cavatore - Jervis wordlessly mouths "NO MUTANTS" and rips up what appears to be a rough draft of a page from the upcoming daemon codex while a turgid synth launches into a spastic run over the driving guitars and electronic drums in the background.~
~Cue scenes of LatD players using their "counts as" armies in practice games against progressively more difficult opponents.~
~Cue shot of Tom Kirby throwing handfuls of money into the air while laughing maniacally.~
~Fade into shot of a pair of tumbling dice coming up box cars and an ecstatic LatD player in a tank top and short shorts pumping his fist into the air before jumping into the waiting arms of his similarly attired teammate in a totally manly and not-in-any-way-gay celebratory embrace while his crestfallen Tyranid opponent removes the final dakkafex from the table.~

Don't forget that the LatD players have to be a ragtag bunch of misfits. We're all miniature gamers here, so I think we've got that covered, but it never hurts to check. Some of us could be a little more ragtag.

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:I think JohnHwangDD may actually be the resident of a weird Pleasantville-esque alternate reality

I think that your post adds nothing of worth to the discussion.

Jester wrote:Only 15 yards? Drake posed as one for years, and only 15 yards? Go figure.

[ducks]

He got the ire of Jester. That's a pretty vicious beating, so long as
you're not into that sort of thing.

John: if he's talking about you, does that mean you add nothing of worth?

malfred wrote:John: if he's talking about you, does that mean you add nothing of worth?

That's entirely possible.

But if so, this isn't the thread or the forum to debate it.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:I think JohnHwangDD may actually be the resident of a weird Pleasantville-esque alternate reality

I think that your post adds nothing of worth to the discussion.

And I think you got a reel purty mouth.

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:I think JohnHwangDD may actually be the resident of a weird Pleasantville-esque alternate reality

I think that your post adds nothing of worth to the discussion.

And I think you got a reel purty mouth.

Not again!

malfred wrote:

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:I think JohnHwangDD may actually be the resident of a weird Pleasantville-esque alternate reality

I think that your post adds nothing of worth to the discussion.

And I think you got a reel purty mouth.

Not again!

banjo music anyone?

JohnHwangDD wrote:I think that your post adds nothing of worth to the discussion.

Then you two have something in common...

I think that montage thing was hillarious.

back on topic: I miss them too, for I just keep building Zombies for Apocalypse and be happy about the fact that I don't play on tournaments.

The LaTD are good enough for Apoc apparently with a new mutant datasheet and a Plague Zombie datasheet.

It's a start.

Easy E wrote:It's a start.

Unfortunately, I think GW considers it an end.

Well now they have a datasheet especially for the LOTD.
It may lead to something more.

I'm gonna go pray

Let's be honest.

If you play Lost and the Damned, you are the gayz.

If you play any of the following armies, you are the gayz:

Imperial Guard
Squats
Kroot Mercs
Tau
Eldar
Dark Eldar
Craftworld Eldar
Ulthwe Strike Force
Dark Angels
Eldar
Necrons (in the closets)
Tyranids
Blood Angels (proud of it)
Lost and the Slammed (get it, get it!?!??!?)
Eldar
Daemons (yes, even Khorne)
Chaos Space Marines (except Alpha Legion)
Ultramarines
Armored Company
Black Templars
Eldar

The only way to not be a raving homosexual and play Warhammer is to play the following armies:

Orks
Feral Orks
Kult of Speed
Space Wolves
Salamanders
13th Company

Sorry. But that is a fact.

What about Space Wolves's moustaches, eh?