No US GW GTs 2009

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**Battle Foam**

Its being held at Empire Games in Mesa Az. Its about 20 minutes east of ASU off the 60 Freeway. Its located in a huge shopping center and the store has over 3500 Sq feet of space available. 30 tables will fit all 60 players for the weekend. We also have a great bar less than 500 yards away. We are hoping to make this one of the better Indy GT's in the South West. The terrain is top notch and the tables are of the highest quality.

Romeo
Battle Foam

**Aldonis**

Canceling the GT's is a sad thing......

Hope GW rethinks their marketing strategy on this one and it's just a temporary thing due to the US recession.....

**sourclams**

Uh, it's a global recession. The US was first in and already looks to be pulling out, but Europe and the rest of the world are still faring badly based on what we hear from the economists overseas.

The recession undoubtedly has something to do with it but it's not limited to the US.

**Augustus**

Aldonis wrote:Canceling the GT's is a sad thing......

Hope GW rethinks their marketing strategy on this one and it's just a temporary thing due to the US recession.....

Indeed! It's very hard to understand as a loving fan, why they would do such a thing? Particularly with Vegas? I understood it SOLD OUT last year?

How could you not make money on an event that sells out?

Assuming thats true, why would an event that makes money be cancelled?

It just doesnt ad up, unless, they don't make money at these things?

They ran the GTs as a promotional expense?

???

I just can't wrap my head around any reason that makes sense for that one. Last year the Vegas GT was supreme, hey it's VEGAS! One of he best times I ever had at a GT, and the food and acomodations were awesome (well except the pirate ship show kept waking me up at night.

Yar...

Ah well, no more.

**Mannahnin**

Not to mention that Vegas event prices/costs are way down this year, because they're hurting too.

**Sarigar**

Sgt Diablo wrote:Its being held at Empire Games in Mesa Az. Its about 20 minutes east of ASU off the 60 Freeway. Its located in a huge shopping center and the store has over 3500 Sq feet of space available. 30 tables will fit all 60 players for the weekend. We also have a great bar less than 500 yards away. We are hoping to make this one of the better Indy GT's in the South West. The terrain is top notch and the tables are of the highest quality.

Romeo
Battle Foam

Damn. I leave Arizona to go back home to NC in May.

**Fishboy**

Hehe that is my luck sarigar hehe.

I think it has less to do with costs and more to do with the logistics after restructuring. My company recently restructured and it has taken over 3 months to start working on new cost centers.

**vhwolf**

Augustus wrote:
Aldonis wrote:Canceling the GT's is a sad thing......

Hope GW rethinks their marketing strategy on this one and it's just a temporary thing due to the US recession.....

Indeed! It's very hard to understand as a loving fan, why they would do such a thing? Particularly with Vegas? I understood it SOLD OUT last year?

How could you not make money on an event that sells out?

Assuming thats true, why would an event that makes money be cancelled?

It just doesnt ad up, unless, they don't make money at these things?

They ran the GTs as a promotional expense?

???

Booking a convention room in Vegas is a little different that what you get in other areas. In a major hotel such as the TI you have to Guarantee x rooms as well as x $$ in catering then thay will allow you to rent the space. In most other areas you can do the rooms and they will comp the convention space. It is easy to see why a sold out event in Vegas could still lose money.
I just can't wrap my head around any reason that makes sense for that one. Last year the Vegas GT was supreme, hey it's VEGAS! One of he best times I ever had at a GT, and the food and acomodations were awesome (well except the pirate ship show kept waking me up at night.

Yar...

Ah well, no more.

**vhwolf**

Mannahnin wrote:Not to mention that Vegas event prices/costs are way down this year, because they're hurting too.

Vegas might be hurting but not as much as you might think. Room rates are down but most other costs are up.

**gorgon**

I have it on reasonably good authority that it's mostly related to the restructuring...which is exactly what they said in the first place.

**bigtmac68**

Hopefully I can make it to your tourney in AZ romeo, all depends on when my bonus check falls.

I wonder if anyone knows of any Indy GT events for 40k up here in the northeast?

The colonial is coming up but its WFB and Im a dedicated 40k guy.

With Baltimore down for the count I dont know of any that are within easy driving distance for me. ( Chicago was a bit of a haul, but Adepticon was well worth it.)

**mikhaila**

There will be at least two East Coast 2-day 40k tournaments this year.

I know of one being planned in the Philadelphia area, and another in VA. A large one in Pittsburg as well, but I forget if it's one day or two.

**Fishboy**

I wonder if anyone knows of any Indy GT events for 40k up here in the northeast?

Tony Spino is settting one up as well as the Iron Fist League.

Tony posted this on the IFL:

Hi folks,
I am organizing a GT event near Philadelphia. We have a reservation date with the hotel for October 23-25. For now I can give some details, and we hope to have the event set by the end of the month, with the website and final details.

Warhammer 40k Grand Tournament (con name not registered yet, but we think we have it set so coming soon...)
-October 24-25, 2009
-venue is in West Chester, PA - about 30 minutes from the Philadelphia Airport, 30 minutes from WIlmington, DE
-we will have a 100-120 player capacity
-all new tables and terrain, at a very high quality level
-Grand Tournament style event, well versed rules judges, painting will be reviewed with past GT painting winners at a minimum
-convention hall has a concession stand and a wet bar in it, run by the hotel
-cool swag and t-shirt orders will be available

For more info head over to the IFL forums.

**frgsinwntr**

This makes me sad.... :(

Almost all of the circuit events now are out of reach in terms of travel costs or time...

How about Ard boyz? any word on that?

**Waaagh_Gonads**

The GW Grand Tournaments are very much second string tournaments here in Australia and have been for several years.

Everyone kept whining about how it could be done better and then some guys acctually did it.
Now GW supports the big independent tourneys with heaps of prizes and some promotion in WD and even the small ones get WD advertising space.

**frgsinwntr**

I guess I am going to have to organize some events then....