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I guess I am lucky. I have never seen an adult freak out (seen several child tantrums). I have seen people be curt to one another in tournaments, but when money is on the line some people become douche bags. Completely understandable.

It is a hobby, and should be taken fairly seriously.

Some kids do take it flippantly, these weakling are often weeded out after a while.
But, really, to be honest, I have seen more heated arguments amongst the older playas. (16-19). The little kids (if they disagree) almost always come to us first. Pretty much everyone (especially the kids) want to have fun, I have never really seen anything like a temper tantrum. (In our club)

I can only remember one adult having a temper tantrum, and this was when I was about 13-14.

I was still one of the younger gamers at the store, and I played this Chaos player (back when it was still a unified army book), who did the whole Tzeentch wizard monstrosity. Obviously, I get clobbered. But the guy would curse loudly whenever he rolled badly (not like it mattered, I mean 13 power dice against my 4 dispel dice means you'll do fine even if you don't get a spell off) and just act like a five year old if something went wrong.

He never bothered to tell me how to get better either, just commented on how "yeah that unit can't be killed" and "yup, my magic is pretty *effing* good".

*sigh*

hmmm, it can kind of crush someone new to the game if they don't get advice and don't know why they keep getting curshed.
In my earlier years of teaching (I was about 14 teaching 10-12's) I even let them win some games.

Well I don't think you should let people win, either.

Depending on your agenda, letting people win can be downright smart.
First of all, I don't waste my time playing pick-up games. When I introduce a new player to the game, it will be done over a series of games, not a single one.
When I teach a new player I tell them that while I won't roll out all the nasty tricks and play 110 %, I will not LET them win.
Then about game 3 or 4, usually 1000 points games, I'll make sure they win. So wether or not they are actually making progress, they will have the feeling of making progress which is just as important. It has worked a treat every time (both of them) and they are now active players with armies of their own.

Using the gwar! approach is only recommended if you desire no new members of the hobby or if you feel the need to compensate for something.

Man, I'm 13 I hate vsing Older teen's like 16 or 17 here's a story:
I was at my local GW and we play a mission where everyone had troop choice under 200 points, the idea was to run your squad up the table as fast as possible and one of the modle had a relic or somthing so if you kill that model the whole squad was killed (and you got to chose the dead modle).
So the whole first turn was boring so I decided to do something else so I shot my plasma gun and cannon in to a tightly pack BA Tactical squad and killing 7 of the ten and kill the model with the relic thus losing his squad. Then gose spaz at me for not playing the mission proply infront of 4 other people then tries to convice the others to kick me from the game.
The others being smart continue the game with me then next turn I got charged we both lose our squad as well both kill the relic holder.

Well there some people don't grow up, I dont usally go anymore this guys a regluar and well hasn't liked me and likes to point out my slight defaults in my army which is usally followed up with "My list's are friendly not chessy" I perfure playing with my friends.

Steelmage99 wrote:Using the gwar! approach is only recommended if you desire no new members of the hobby or if you feel the need to compensate for something.

Yes, Gwar! is completely and utterly wrong.

Frosty Hardtop wrote: I'm 24.



However, who I hate are OLDER GAMERS. I swear I'm going to throttle the next person who goes on an hour long diatribe about how AD&D was so much better. Shut up, and roll your Dragonkin Warlock, we're up to 4th Edition now. Older gamers are the biggest whiners, they know everything, and every ten minutes you have to correct them on a rule ("Oh, well, that's how we did it in 4th Edition." "SHUT UP THIS IS FIFTH EDITION READ YOUR RULEBOOK"). And they have a hundred thousand stories you have to endure to get through an interaction with them.

Hate to break it to you but if your 24 you will soon be that same guy. Most kids see anyone over 20 as "old" so your already there, you just don't realize it yet...

Cheese Elemental wrote:It's not fair, I say. Stelek got his own 'attack me' thread. I demand equal rights.

I knew Stelek.
You, sir, are no Stelek.


(Sorry, guys. Just couldn't resist).

No insult intended, CE. It'was just too easy to pass up.

On Topic:
Personally, I don't care who they are, as long as they aren't immature whiners or rude "turd dispensers."


Eric

Steelmage99 wrote:Using the gwar! approach is only recommended if you desire no new members of the hobby or if you feel the need to compensate for something.

lalabox wrote:Yes, Gwar! is completely and utterly wrong.

Wow, I didn't know being sensitive was Vouge this Season, must try that next time I am at the bar.

Steelmage, just FYI, out of the 11 Young Kids who have come to my local club to start playing, only a single one has not come back and he was a dick anyway. Every other one of them has come back, asked me to help them improve, and now are pretty solid gamers. They range in age from 10 to 15.

@ MM- Lmao.

On topic.. It depends on the maturity/social skills.

Regardless of age. I'm 38 and I know it all, dont'cha know???????

What? You're 38 and yet still have not aspired to being a GOD OF GAMING? Wow, either there is a lot to this game or you're a slow learner. (kidding) I could be 93, and still learning.

Kids are essential to 40k. Being a jackass to nubes makes you a jerk AND selfish. Share the fun why don't ya?

In my experience, you get jerks of all ages. Those annoying kids, just grow up to be annoying adults.

Noobs, of all ages, are also capable of being jerks, but they are not automatically jerks.

If an invidual is a jerk, cease the game as soon as it becomes annoying, and look for someone less jerky to play. Jerks quickly find themselves alone.

@Akira5665: I'm 41. There are still things you have yet to learn.

There are some younger players I'll happily play against.
Just as there are some older players I won't play against.

I started playing when I was around 10. I think I must have been one of the youngest rules lawyers there was. I even got into a dispute with a redshirt about a hive tyrants stats and won.

Now I'm not sure if that counts as a brat or whatever but generally I played with my friends (at someones house) in massive multiplayer games. Out of all of us I think it would be my brother who would be alloacted "brat" status. He would regularly moan until we agreed to let him play then quit after turn 2.

12 years later I had a game against against said brother and after some bad rolling with his chaos havocs (missed with everything in a single phase) he flipped the board over and quit.

Have now moved to China and havent played him since. And all the younger players I have had the pleasure of playing since are actually pretty cool.

So I guess that puts me in the same position as a lot of others...maturity depends not upon age.

Gwar! wrote:

Steelmage99 wrote:Using the gwar! approach is only recommended if you desire no new members of the hobby or if you feel the need to compensate for something.

lalabox wrote:Yes, Gwar! is completely and utterly wrong.

Wow, I didn't know being sensitive was Vouge this Season, must try that next time I am at the bar.

As you so ambly demonstrate, yes, being sensitive is apparently in vogue. As you yourself have pointed out earlier, it is OK to state your oppinion. That fact that you are sensitive about my oppinion is just too bad.

Steelmage, just FYI, out of the 11 Young Kids who have come to my local club to start playing, only a single one has not come back and he was a dick anyway. Every other one of them has come back, asked me to help them improve, and now are pretty solid gamers. They range in age from 10 to 15.

I call BS. I do not believe for a second that you are being truthfull. You don't care that I don't believe you and nothing you could say would convince me otherwise, so no reply is needed.

Please realize that any kind of reply to these statements will simply demonstrate that you are indeed the sensitive one.

Frosty Hardtop wrote: I'm 24.



However, who I hate are OLDER GAMERS. I swear I'm going to throttle the next person who goes on an hour long diatribe about how AD&D was so much better. Shut up, and roll your Dragonkin Warlock, we're up to 4th Edition now. Older gamers are the biggest whiners, they know everything, and every ten minutes you have to correct them on a rule ("Oh, well, that's how we did it in 4th Edition." "SHUT UP THIS IS FIFTH EDITION READ YOUR RULEBOOK"). And they have a hundred thousand stories you have to endure to get through an interaction with them.

Dude I'm 21 I've been through 4 editions of 40k, I sometimes get some rules mixed up as I will remember them from old editions etc etc, some of the time its not being a jerk you just remember the rules as they used to be, I don't mind being corrected if I get a rule wrong or remember an older one, the rulebooks have alot of rules in them, sometimes you just can't help it..jeez man get over yourself.

CT GAMER wrote:

Frosty Hardtop wrote: I'm 24.



However, who I hate are OLDER GAMERS. I swear I'm going to throttle the next person who goes on an hour long diatribe about how AD&D was so much better. Shut up, and roll your Dragonkin Warlock, we're up to 4th Edition now. Older gamers are the biggest whiners, they know everything, and every ten minutes you have to correct them on a rule ("Oh, well, that's how we did it in 4th Edition." "SHUT UP THIS IS FIFTH EDITION READ YOUR RULEBOOK"). And they have a hundred thousand stories you have to endure to get through an interaction with them.

Hate to break it to you but if your 24 you will soon be that same guy. Most kids see anyone over 20 as "old" so your already there, you just don't realize it yet...

Terrified of that concept, trying to avoid it.

We have a number of young players in our group. Some tend to be annoying when they start out. However treat these kids with the same respect that you, yourself expect and they will be open to being tought proper gaming technique and etiquette. Most of the younger guys in our group have grown up to be good players and polite. The others dont last.

I take pleasure in teaching a kid how to be a good gamer. I appreciate my gaming buddys treating my 12 yr old son with respect as well. I dont take pleasure in stomping some kid or newbie (regardless of age) into the ground while i play.. i dont necessarily let them win.. however as a seasoned gamer i can guage there skill and adjust for it. These are the games where i can take pleasure in teaching someone who will give me a good game in the future.

Ive seen more unruley adults than i have children btw. Age is irrelevent when adressing maturity.

99MDeery wrote:

Frosty Hardtop wrote: I'm 24.



However, who I hate are OLDER GAMERS. I swear I'm going to throttle the next person who goes on an hour long diatribe about how AD&D was so much better. Shut up, and roll your Dragonkin Warlock, we're up to 4th Edition now. Older gamers are the biggest whiners, they know everything, and every ten minutes you have to correct them on a rule ("Oh, well, that's how we did it in 4th Edition." "SHUT UP THIS IS FIFTH EDITION READ YOUR RULEBOOK"). And they have a hundred thousand stories you have to endure to get through an interaction with them.

Dude I'm 21 I've been through 4 editions of 40k, I sometimes get some rules mixed up as I will remember them from old editions etc etc, some of the time its not being a jerk you just remember the rules as they used to be, I don't mind being corrected if I get a rule wrong or remember an older one, the rulebooks have alot of rules in them, sometimes you just can't help it..jeez man get over yourself.

And thats why the joke wasnt directed at you :p He was making fun of older gamers (which you arent).. Im 27 and it is indeed annoying to listen to them go on and on about how the rules used to be, etc, etc.. Some people just live in the past and dont like to change their thinking

I suggest understanding the humor before going off on the poster heh

gretar wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

gretar wrote:Will there ever be enough of these threads ? Im a teen , and i have been colecting these since i whas 8 ! I dont concider myself annoying , neither do the adults at my club ... infact there are some adults there who act like babys all the time ! I guess there are many that arent like some guys and me that can annoy you and others , but think before you post some thing along the lines of :

"Should i rewrite this ? Should i post this ? Does this make me look stupid ? Can this offend many people without a reason ? etc..."

Yes , no , yes , yes are the answers to this stupid , ignorant thread...

Gretar

Are you a Tau player?

No , im a SM , Ork and LoTR PAINTER I barely play Why ask ?

I thought you might be playing for "The Gretar Good".

Gwar! wrote:

Steelmage99 wrote:Using the gwar! approach is only recommended if you desire no new members of the hobby or if you feel the need to compensate for something.

lalabox wrote:Yes, Gwar! is completely and utterly wrong.

Wow, I didn't know being sensitive was Vouge this Season, must try that next time I am at the bar.

Steelmage, just FYI, out of the 11 Young Kids who have come to my local club to start playing, only a single one has not come back and he was a dick anyway. Every other one of them has come back, asked me to help them improve, and now are pretty solid gamers. They range in age from 10 to 15.

Well, it was a joke because... your sig... and you seem to delight in being told you are correct... and emoticons are kinda annoying...


Also, I'm sixteen, and apart from delighting in the theoretical side of wargaming ('Hey, you know that my punisher can shoot 20 shots a turn.' 'Pft.. If I charge your steam tank with my tyrant, I hit automatically with 5 attacks at strength 9, each doing d3 wounds.' [okay, not really.]) I am a valued member of my gw store (actually, yes).

It all depends on the people.

lalabox wrote:
It all depends on the people.

If we can simply walk away with this one pearl of wisdom...this whole forum...would be worth it.

Let me just say this.

Young players are like sheeps.

You are the border collie. How they behave could depend 100% on you if you wanted to.

Woof! Woof!

@All on my previous post....


Only a lunatic would take themselves so seriously with such an out-rageous statement.

Teh Interwebs loses alot on inflection on Sarcasm/self jibes.

LunaHound wrote:
Let me just say this.

Young players are like sheeps.

You are the border collie. How they behave could depend 100% on you if you wanted to.

So we can bite them on the hinds to get them to go where we want while an old man whistles at the events taking place?

Duce wrote:So we can bite them on the hinds to get them to go where we want while an old man whistles at the events taking place?

This sounds strangely appealing.

...

Woof?