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Kids don't bother me as long as they can conduct themselves in a mature manner. I've seen plenty of so called 'adults' act more immaturely than most kids, so it can go both ways. Bottom line is... Don't be an asshat!

gretar wrote: Im a teen , and i have been colecting these since i whas 8 ! I dont concider myself annoying

Most people don't. I dont but alot of people at school say i am. but none(as far as i know) at the gaming club. there preety tolerant of new young players.
the only time people get mad is when they cant find a place to watch that wont interfer with the game

I'm 24.

Children can be a nuisance, especially when you're not playing against them. It's been my experience that they don't know the rules, and they talk way too much. Ignoring the Ultramarines love and all that. I had to endure three hours of a kid talking about Black Templar at me while we were trying to play a few games at our store the other day. However, I find that dealing with kids gives you a chance to teach by example. Keep on doing your thing, don't get pissed off about the rules, don't get angry when you measure your blast marker and count six of their guys, and they count five, don't get angry when you count five of your guys under the marker, and they count six. These kids are going to grow up into adults, so you can show them how adults interact.

However, who I hate are OLDER GAMERS. I swear I'm going to throttle the next person who goes on an hour long diatribe about how AD&D was so much better. Shut up, and roll your Dragonkin Warlock, we're up to 4th Edition now. Older gamers are the biggest whiners, they know everything, and every ten minutes you have to correct them on a rule ("Oh, well, that's how we did it in 4th Edition." "SHUT UP THIS IS FIFTH EDITION READ YOUR RULEBOOK"). And they have a hundred thousand stories you have to endure to get through an interaction with them.

I've had far more bad experiences at the hands of (allegedly) grown adults than teens and kids. Given a choice between an immature but trying tweener and the Shenanigans and downright cheating some adults perpetrate, I'll take the tweener every time.

It's all about personal maturity and not age.

Everyone has to start somewhere - give the kids a break otherwise they will turn into to arse adults

TO be quite honest as a younger player myself (17)i like opponents who act as yoiu should whne playign a game, your losing so what !? enjoy it.

I always enjoy being beat cause i can just laugh at how badly it is going it's When opponents start screamingand shouting because some serious damage has been done tio their force, because they underestimate certain troops.

So generally, i dont mind kids as long as they act maturly, if they dont, thats when i start having problems.

athba wrote:Everyone has to start somewhere - give the kids a break otherwise they will turn into to arse adults

Or worse, leave The Hobby and become just another poopsocking WoW player.

Be kind to young players. Them is what us were (was?).

What i really hate is when, a kid comes in and buys a whole army randomly . . . . because his dad is paying for it


I remember that when i was that age i had to save all my tiny pocket money to buy models

then its natural that they treat models (and hobby in general ) as a toy and not a proper hobby

but as always one cannot generalize...

I think someone else said this before, but these kids playing now are our hobbies future. If we want someone to yell at and talk about how great 5th ed was, we need to keep them around.

karnaeya wrote:kids are cool.. brats are not.

Which is true for every age.

Doctor Optimal wrote:
Or worse, leave The Hobby and become just another poopsocking WoW player.

What the hell is a poopsock, and why is it a verb?

I'm a younger gamer. My interest in the hobby has recently drifeted into the fluff part, and instead of going over the rule book to make sure I understan it, you'd more likely see me reading 15 Hours for the 6th time. I haven't played as often as i would like, but am cool with that. I don't want to be constantly pestering people with questions and such, so I the games I have played were generally the starter missions in Battle for Macragge. I know I that everyone can be a douche at times in the hobby, same as life.
if i see a little kid playing the hobby, and he/she needs help with something that i can help them with, I'll gladly do so, so long as they don't turn into a brat.

Also, Maturity Based Test to allow you to enter the hobby sounds like an awesome idea.

Cheese Elemental wrote:We all see those kids in gaming stores, right? From the peewees to the pre-teens who have a raging passion for Ultramarines. What's your opinion on these younger gamers? How do you interact with them?

Now, I'm one of the younger people at my FLGS (at least, one of the youngest who play competitively), but I don't really feel any sympathy towards kids. They swagger in, all confident that their Ultramarines/Cadians/generic whatever army is the best in the store. Then when you wipe the floor with them, they get all butthurt about it and storm out of the store following a lot of crying and accusations of cheating.

There should really be an age limit on this hobby. If kids weren't allowed to play, Space Marines wouldn't outsell everything else.

Thoughts?

A thought? I think a post like this coming from you is priceless.

I don't have an issue with kids playing the game. If someone gets out of line, the sharkpit pins thier ears back, and they figure out whats really going on.
The kids around here that play mind themselves or get run off. We help ours out, and it is kinda interesting to teach this game to someone elses kid, when you would think Pop would be in thier along side little junior, or junette and play with them as well.

In the GW shops, there are quite a few babysitting sessions, but if the kid is doing thier thing, and not beeing disruptive, that should be a good thing for the shop.
FLGS's are just that, friendly. You WANT these kids there, or you are going to find that the game is going to die out, if you don't pass ity along, and bring them along in the game. Either that, or you get to winess excerpts of The Excorcist, when the kids start up, and you get to put up with it.

If one of those kids gives you static, make an example out of one or two, and they figure out pretty quick if they want to continue being an attention whore.

We have a great group of kids around here, and the quality of thier gaming is an example for kids everywhere. It wasn't always like that, and it took effort, but on the whole, your issue is not my issue.

I'm not that old myself, very much a younger gamer myself(Although I don't like the way that always seems derogatory), but because I'm a regular I'm treated fairly well, worse than some of the younger than me gamers even, at my store. At my store the youngest one I've seen is around 6 and quite a few are in the 11-13 range, but I treat them no differently than I do anybody else and if they look like they need help, or even ask for me it then I'm happy enough to help then, and play against them(Even when most duck out early to get picked up..).

But I have had my share of the ones where I've had to grin and bear it, for instance when I was sat down painting and a 13 year old decided my face looked better covered in Games Workshop snow, or that my friends 'left to dry' elves looked better in his hands after not asking. I just asked him to stop and whatnot I didn't get as angry as I probably should have been with fake snow dropping from me..But, as I have said, I treat the ones younger than me just as I would treat others, and I feel I get treated in an equal way, so far I have yet to meet an older gamer who does anything different.

Any kids come into my store looking to learn to play, I just steamroll them. If they emoragequit, they were not wanted anyway, if they come back for more and to learn, then they are what is wanted in a gamer.

I was a younger gamer. We all were younger gamers.

GoFenris wrote:I was a younger gamer. We all were younger gamers.

Yes, but not all of us were "That" Younger Gamer.

GoFenris wrote:I was a younger gamer. We all were younger gamers.

Until we are old ones

I was a kick-ass younger gamer. Polite, well-spoken and I owned people much much older than me. Granted I was a card game/heroclix guru though.

Gwar! wrote:Any kids come into my store looking to learn to play, I just steamroll them. If they emoragequit, they were not wanted anyway, if they come back for more and to learn, then they are what is wanted in a gamer.

There's no need to troll this thread too y'know.

Bookwrack wrote:

Gwar! wrote:Any kids come into my store looking to learn to play, I just steamroll them. If they emoragequit, they were not wanted anyway, if they come back for more and to learn, then they are what is wanted in a gamer.

There's no need to troll this thread too y'know.

Not trolling, just giving my opinion

Gwar! wrote:

Bookwrack wrote:

Gwar! wrote:Any kids come into my store looking to learn to play, I just steamroll them. If they emoragequit, they were not wanted anyway, if they come back for more and to learn, then they are what is wanted in a gamer.

There's no need to troll this thread too y'know.

Not trolling, just giving my opinion

Ha, of course you are.

I know from your posting history that you're certainly not so dumb as to think that's a good idea.

Hmm, although then again, going by your post history, you might be enough of TFG to think that's a good idea. Hmm, oh dear.

Haha, well as I said in a thread a while back, that is how I teach kids. I don't hold back. I teach them, but I will beat them. 90% of the kids I have taught have come back for more and want to learn. It was how I learnt, so it's good enough for them

Of course, if you'd actually 'steamrolled' then, then not only would your percentage be reversed, I'd highly doubt that even 1 out of 10 would be interested in more games, especially against you. For someone as post-a-riffic about the rules as you, I'd expect you'd be a bit more apt in your terminology. Coddling and steamrolling might be on the opposite ends of the spectrum, but it's not a binary situation.

Yeah Bookwrack, he and I had this "discussion". Good luck.

Bookwrack wrote:
What the hell is a poopsock, and why is it a verb?

Poopsocking is when you WoW (or any game, really, but mostly WoW) so hard that you won't get up from your desk for anything.

...
Who POOPS in a SOCK!? Honestly!

With me personally working in a game store I must deal with young kids all the time. They can be quite annoying but then theres that one that really wants to learn or the 13 year old who loves the group. You put up with them and they learn by example to calm down sometimes lol there kids it happens. Now me myself being a young gamer (almost 18 yay!) I know what its like on both sides.

But if I HATE older gamers they always know more than you always..... even when they have no idea what there talking about talking out of there arse about everything and will butt in your game to attempt to prove you wrong those people are the ones I hate. I like playing for fun and I am a tad competative so I do like concentrating and don't like being disturbed as much while playing. Just gets annoying sometimes I'm all for jokin but I also don't like being at the table for 8 hours haha.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

I play 40k at tables in friends houses, several of my friends smoke and we all swear, drink beer and eat gak food (40k = get in the snacks). I like playing my toy soldier game that way, with the same friends I go to the pub with or sit n play linkup NWN2 with.

That's the only way I would ever play a game, and that's the reason why I probably never will. I'm far too old to start hanging around at my local games workshop with the awkward teenagers, and the often equally awkward adults. Thus my hobby is limited to a bit of collecting and painting. It's not the kids fault though. They're the ones the hobby is meant for, and it's not their fault old buggers like me don't want to hang around with them. At the end of the day, I'm the sad grown up playing toy soldiers.

i am over 30..... personally i like to game against anyone, but i much rather trade with kids because they wont try to squeeze an extra buck in trade out of you.....they want what they want and will trade fast for it.

I've never ever had a teenager (13-17) throw a tantrum that comes close to rivaling an adult.. I think its easier to just pick on the kids and say they arent mature.

The reason? We can tell a kid "stop being a baby and grow up" or "you're just an immature kid who doesnt blah blah blah" or "You dont know what youre talking about cause im the adult blah blah"

Yet when an adult does it (especially the over 40 guys) people just take it and dont say gak to them.. Thats the real problem. IF we want kids to be more mature we need to man up and tell the cry baby adults that they need to calm down, take a deep breath and realize that in a game of probability they wont get their way every time

Seriously, for all the talk about immature kids Ive only ever met adults who acted like this.. Ive been in this hobby since I was 13 as well