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There's gonna be some epic fight between Chaos daemons, Orks, Necrons and Tyranids.....

Then, the Orks will be the first to lose because even with all that spore epicness (I wish I could breed via spores) the 'Nids would eventually assimilate them.

Then the Necrons, they will suffer severe casualties, retreat to make repairs and will be gone for a small eternity....

Then the 'Nids, they will keep throwing themselves at the daemons until they are extinct....

Then the Necrons come back after 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years and then there will be an eternal war between daemons and necrons that will only end when the Universe gets bored and obliterates itself.


My two cents

Locbot, just stick to the less sophisticated topics and you should be fine.

Oh haha your halarious. Guys please stop picking on me.

Another Way it could happen:

Global Warming actualy kicks in and the sun explodes after like 37,000 years.

locbot wrote:
Another Way it could happen:

Global Warming actualy kicks in and the sun explodes after like 37,000 years.

I would try to explain the inherent stupidity of this comment but.....I don't think I have the mental fortitude or patience required, suffice to say 'What has science done?'

On topic: Orks, Tyranids and Necrons seem to be the only real contenders in the fight for the material galaxy simply because they have the largest forces. IMO Tyranids will have a huge advantage over Orks simply because Tyranids are united and coordinated, where as Orks are not. An important factor in the fight between Necrons and Tyranids is that the Tyranids will be unable to consume the biomass they require as they attack Necron worlds as Necrons strip worlds of all life. We know this biomass denial works (see Leviathan versus Inquisitor Krypman, "Imperial Dick"). So yea, my vote is Necrons unless of course Behemoth/ Kraken/ Leviathan are merely scout fleets.

locbot wrote:Oh haha your halarious. Guys please stop picking on me.

Another Way it could happen:

Global Warming actualy kicks in and the sun explodes after like 37,000 years.

Dear lord...
Not only is global warming COMPLETELY unrelated to the suns lifespan (which by the way is another 5 billion years not 80,000) but the local sun to terra exploding would not destroy the galaxy OR universe, hell it only destorys half the local solar system.

The emperor would probably stop it somehow anyway...

lordrevege wrote:

Ridcully wrote:Tau, obviously. It's only a matter of time before the water caste negotiators persuade Chaos and the 'Nids to join The Empire. I don't see how it could play out any other way.

Wow.
Just wow.
They must have some really good negotiators.

Water Caste negotiators are physically the strongest beings in the 40k universe, and therefore the most persuasive. You have about as much chance of nailing one to the wall as you do with pinning down the sea with a straight answer. We're talking land raider toughness here.

I'm betting on Tyranids or Necrons. The only way I think that the Necrons could lose would be if enough of the Necron Lords went crazy and refused to obey the C'tan and started fighting each other instead. Otherwise they are completely invincible because they can never be killed permanently and will eventually grind any opponent down into the dust.

corpsesarefun wrote:

locbot wrote:Oh haha your halarious. Guys please stop picking on me.

Another Way it could happen:

Global Warming actualy kicks in and the sun explodes after like 37,000 years.

Dear lord...
Not only is global warming COMPLETELY unrelated to the suns lifespan (which by the way is another 5 billion years not 80,000) but the local sun to terra exploding would not destroy the galaxy OR universe, hell it only destorys half the local solar system.

The emperor would probably stop it somehow anyway...

well fine terra would die you guys are like EVERYTHING Nazies god get a life.

Crabby 12 year old is crabby methinks.

C'mon guys,he's just a kid,direct him, don't disect him.

Probaly between Nids: There deffintely there no question.

Orks: I think they will be wipped out to near the last man by eldar, nids and chaos but will slowely get regain there numbers near the end when eldar have gone and Necrons are hugely cripped.

Imperium: I can imagine a few pockets of humans still alive trapped somewhere on a random planet.

Chaos: The traitor legions will be dead but the gods will be there (All five)

Also very posiable that those "pockets of traped humans" would turn to Chaos in their despair and anger,thus fueling Chaos streagth.

FITZZ wrote: C'mon guys,he's just a kid,direct him, don't disect him.

thank you.

My other thoughts:

Chaos Gods go bananas and come out of the warp and start fighting themselves killing almost all the Imperium. With such a humungous amount of psykers being killed the Emperor regaines his power and leads the Imperiumin a last stand and Terra against the Chaos Gods like he did against Horus. However, the Emperor finds himself to have become even more incredibly powerful than he was before Horus slayed him. With a single blow he makes way of Slannesh, being the youghest God. With these events, the Dark Eldar soon crumble under the wraitbone of the Eldar whom were attempting a final assault of the Dark Eldar. Meanwhile, the Emperor manages to slay Nurgle but was injured during the fight. As this happened, all the daemons and spawns fell into the warp to join there fallen Gods. Also, all the Chaos Marines who Nurgle and Slannesh smiled apon lost all their power, being no match for the remaining Inquisition on Terra. The Eldar, seizing the oppertunity, convince the Orks to launch a full scall assault on Terra to claim it as their own and to get all the "Shiny Bitz" but most of all to fight the Emperor and Chaos Gods. The battle every Ork wanted to fight. The Orks arrived and flouded the battlefield, completly crushing Chaos, and Imperialist alike but the Emperor, Khorne and Tzeentch. Tzeentch then managed to provoke Khone to attempt kiling the Emperor after he had recovered from destroying Nurgle. With the Emperor at a full stat, he fought Khorne with the cost of severe injuries. Tzeentch's plans were finally revieled. While the Orks made work of the small force of Grey Knights protecting th Place, where the Emperor fought his battle, Tzeentch summonded thousandes of daemons, consuming the Orks. With most of the Orks finished, the Eldar sent Strike Teams to eliminate all remaining Ork camps. But, the Necrons watched a everything died, waiting to make their move. With the Emperor's might matched by Tzeentch, the Emperor was finally destroyed, never to return.

Okay short brake from the extreme epicness.
So far the dead races are: Dark Eldar, Orks, 3/4 Chaos, Daemons, Imperium
And the races still alive: 1/4 Chaos, Eldar, Necrons, Tyranids, Tau

(half time show)

Terra was not enough. Tzeentch's plan was not complete. But a pest was in his way, the Tau Empire. When Tzeentch arrived in the Eastern Fringe however, the Tau had already been destroyed. But by what, you ask? Looking at the planets, Tzeentch saw vegatation, corrupted by an alie foe, the Tyranids. It appeared as though the Tyranids had completly consumed the Tau world's, leaving no survivor. With the Orks completly destroyed by the Eldar, the Necrons made their move. They destroyed the Craftworld's with ease. The world was to be their's.

And so our final battle is to come. Tzeentch was planning on corrupting the Eldar, but his warships were massacared but the Necrons. It seemed as though nothing could stop them, but maybe the Tyranids could. The Necrons retreated to Mars and hid in it's tombs, letting the Tyranids consume each planet. When the Tyranids fianlly arrived at Mars, the Necrons emerged form the ground ripping the Tyranids to shreads. The Tyranids could not conume the Necrons and there flesh was no match for the Necrons armor. The Tyranids were destoyed, and so the Necrons raised pylons and cores and each planets, eviving their culture.

The world is theirs now, and there is no contender.

Its great that your using punctuation. Your idea is good but some things could never happen like:

1. The Emporer gets feed thousands of psykers every day just to keep him alive.

2. The chaos gods cannot enter the material realm thats why they have to use champions like Horus to do there bidding.

3.The Orks wouldnt be united and if they could it would take them it would take months to organise and launchan assault on Terra.

4. The chaos gods are being of infinate power I dont think the Emporer could kill them doesnt matter how powerful he is.

5. Its in the Chaos Gods interestes to support and help the Human race. They cannot live without emotion and there main source is humanity.

6. Without the help of there gods the traitor marinesare still a formidable force even without powers there a match for the Inqusition. The Traitor marines are the same as the Loya marines but with up to 10k exprience.

oh sorry i didnt know that stuff but also I was more considering Moral but you have a point about everything else. But wouldnt that mean Necrons and Chaos would just figh tforever since both are everlasting?


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and i didnt know that the chaso gods loved the huamns thats actually kinda kool to think about. I'm gonna go give Nurgle a hug now.

No. They wouldn't fight forever. Because if Humanity was destroyed, there would be no more Chaos.

The Gods don't 'love' humanity. They just need it in order to exist.

oh so the rest of chas marines would die then chaos gods would

NECRONS WIN!!!

Those marines not physically possessed or mutated would likely survive (Assuming they aren't in the Eye when it collapses). Their lives don't depend upon the Gods. Study the facts. The only ones that would be affected by their deaths would be those physically possessed and/or mutated by Chaos (Things like Obliterators and DPs). Your basic, run-of-the-mill angry bald and screaming Chaos Marine would probably be fine, albeight weakened. And the Necrons don't have tomb worlds on every planet. Suffice to say, it would likely turn into a battle between Necrons, Nids, and Orks for the remaining living worlds that are Tomb-free.

Most tomb worlds are dead or harshly inhospitable in terms of temperature or atmosphere levels. This is of no use to the Tyranids, or the Orks.

Those tomb worlds that do carry life are of high value to all three. These tomb worlds likely hold citizens, which have souls. Something the C'tan want. They hold life, which is something the Tyranids want. They likely hold militaries, which the Orks yearn to fight. They also have Vehicles, weapons, and resources that the Orks would be after.

Settled Non-Tomb worlds would be of much the same value as the aforementioned.

So no. NECRONS DON'T WIN. Please make use of -some- amount of factual info in your posts...

There is realy no evidence that the Emporer will return or that he is stronger then the chaos gods combined.

Even If the chaos gods are destroyed the large amount of rage, digust, pleasure and schemeing coming out of this Galaxy wide war between nids, Orks, necrons, random xenos races and possibly some Humans.


Cause the Chaos gods dont feed of Ork emotion but would be back in the next few hundred thousand years.

While Life and emotions exists so do the chaos gods. They been here since the begining of time taking little interest in the material realm and will be here when everything and one is dead.

Lord-Loss wrote:There is realy no evidence that the Emporer will return or that he is stronger then the chaos gods combined.

He would if he had to build a giant burrito...

Lord-Loss wrote:Even If the chaos gods are destroyed the large amount of rage, digust, pleasure and schemeing coming out of this Galaxy wide war between nids, Orks, necrons, random xenos races and possibly some Humans.
Cause the Chaos gods dont feed of Ork emotion but would be back in the next few hundred thousand years. While Life and emotions exists so do the chaos gods. They been here since the begining of time taking little interest in the material realm and will be here when everything and one is dead.

They feed off all emotion from any psychic sensitive race. Humanity is just their strongest card. Without Humanity, Gork and Mork would probably have the Gods hog-tied and gagged... Except Slaanesh. She'd get off on that. So without emotion in the Galaxy, they would die. Sort of like how Gork and Mork would cease to exist if the Orks, as a race, stopped believing in them. That said, the Gods aren't able to physically manifest themselves. Which is why they use temporary avatar forms such as Greater Daemons. Because the Gods themselves would not survive in the material realm.

I dont think Universe will ever end for 40k. When the Imperium and all the other races are dead, new ones will apear and the cycle will start all over again.


Metallifan@Dont forget there are multiple galaxys with Orks and Nids in them so Its possible there are xenos races in those galaxys too.

I think part of the reason why Gork and Mork are so much more powerful then the chaos gods is cause there are Orks in other galaxys.

Of cource, Gork and Mork are, for all intents and perposes, chaos gods.

orks VS nids

Honestly I can imagine a giant battle Nids vs Orks vs Necrons on a huge scale. I mean hundreds of worlds destroyed in the fighting. The Orks are huge thanks to all the fighting and the Nids have consumed so much biomass there trillions of them.

This battle could be ragging in other galaxys as the Old Ones put spores in multiple galaxys and Nid aint from the Milky Way.

Hmmm, interesante...

If you mean the end of EVERYTHING, like the entire 40K universe just eding then it would need to be the Tyranids.

(a) They wipe out the psychically active Prey Species
(b) The death of these species leads to the extinction of Chaos, as they no longer have a viable source of emotion.
(c) The 'nids also consume the non-psychic species (Tau)
(d) The Necrons and their c'tan masters would either stay in permament stasis (their energy sources having been consumed) or would attempt to fight the Tyranids who would eventually evolve a way to consume the Necrontyr and their living metal (T-1000 Nids anyone? :p)
(e) once the known 40K galaxy is stripped clean, then the Tyranids move outwith known space to hunt once again.

If Chaos succesfully wiped out everything, which in turn would destroy themselves, and only Tzeentch would appreciate that I feel ("Oblivion eh? That'd be a nice change). A similiar thing would happen to the Necrons, as their food source would be cut off by the old 'nids, the C'Tan would then either consume each other, attempt to consume the Tyranids or go back to drinking suns.

Although I must say, I do like the idea of the Orks finally uniting and killing the crap out of EVERYTHING!!! would be awesome

metallifan wrote:Those marines not physically possessed or mutated would likely survive (Assuming they aren't in the Eye when it collapses). Their lives don't depend upon the Gods. Study the facts. The only ones that would be affected by their deaths would be those physically possessed and/or mutated by Chaos (Things like Obliterators and DPs). Your basic, run-of-the-mill angry bald and screaming Chaos Marine would probably be fine, albeight weakened. And the Necrons don't have tomb worlds on every planet. Suffice to say, it would likely turn into a battle between Necrons, Nids, and Orks for the remaining living worlds that are Tomb-free.

Most tomb worlds are dead or harshly inhospitable in terms of temperature or atmosphere levels. This is of no use to the Tyranids, or the Orks.

Those tomb worlds that do carry life are of high value to all three. These tomb worlds likely hold citizens, which have souls. Something the C'tan want. They hold life, which is something the Tyranids want. They likely hold militaries, which the Orks yearn to fight. They also have Vehicles, weapons, and resources that the Orks would be after.

Settled Non-Tomb worlds would be of much the same value as the aforementioned.

So no. NECRONS DON'T WIN. Please make use of -some- amount of factual info in your posts...

Few thing to correct you on.
Orks actually prefer dead or inhospitable planets, or if those arnt on offer they will go for planets with the most things to fight.

C'tan dont feed on souls, they absorb energy and life energy (different to souls, souls are warp based thus the c'tan dont like souls) is the most tasty of treats for C'tan.

Nid's dont go for life they go for biomass (the chemicals life is made out of) such as hydrocarbons, DNA is a bonus so they would attack worlds without life if they got the chance as long as the world had some of the chemicals needed (remember nids eat the atmospheres, all the water and alot of the minerals as well as the life on a planet).

Orks would see 'nids and 'crons to be worthy opponents so they would most likely just attack the hivefleet or ANY tomb world, or simply another group of orks, rather than just surviving worlds with humans on them.

However otherwise you are correct

I wasn't aware Orks could survive on zero-atmosphere worlds. Learn something new every day.

Life/biomass. Biomass is generally something living to some degree... So I'd say 'Life' would be another term that could be used. Dead worlds don't have much, if any, biomass. They're... well... dead. Why do you think they avoid Dead Tomb Worlds? There's not enough, if anything, there for them to nom.

Orks would attack anything, yes, but Human worlds would have supplies in the form of weapons, ammo, vehicles, scrap, etc... that they'd want. I'd think that the smart Warboss would consider that first, THEN go fighting everything once he's got all he needs as I was suggesting.

Metallifan, your being kinda of a hypocrite. You get pissed at me all the time for posting immaturely then post crap like a giant burito's will kill the Tyranids. Really? That's just being an obnoctious jerk.

metallifan wrote:I wasn't aware Orks could survive on zero-atmosphere worlds. Learn something new every day.

Life/biomass. Biomass is generally something living to some degree... So I'd say 'Life' would be another term that could be used. Dead worlds don't have much, if any, biomass. They're... well... dead. Why do you think they avoid Dead Tomb Worlds? There's not enough, if anything, there for them to nom.

Orks would attack anything, yes, but Human worlds would have supplies in the form of weapons, ammo, vehicles, scrap, etc... that they'd want. I'd think that the smart Warboss would consider that first, THEN go fighting everything once he's got all he needs as I was suggesting.

Don't forget, the Tyranids eat a planet's oceans, atmosphere, and any useful materials inside of it as well. So just because a world has no life doesn't mean it can't be Tyranid munchies.

locbot wrote:Metallifan, your being kinda of a hypocrite. You get pissed at me all the time for posting immaturely then post crap like a giant burito's will kill the Tyranids. Really? That's just being an obnoctious jerk.

I don't get pissed, I get annoyed at 5 word comments without any facts/basis/analysis to them that people post just to increase their post count. It's all good and fun if someone puts down a multi paragraph comical response. But one sentance replies with no real thought put into them are a waste of thread space. And It's called a sense of humor. Go drink your juice and settle down.

Deathbot wrote:Don't forget, the Tyranids eat a planet's oceans, atmosphere, and any useful materials inside of it as well. So just because a world has no life doesn't mean it can't be Tyranid munchies.

If it has an ocean though, I wouldn't consider it a 'dead world' pe se, because it still has live on a microbiological scale. When I think 'Dead World" I think like, nothing more than carved rock and settled dust concealing vast tomb networks several Kilometers below the surface. A planet with little or no natural atmosphere left.

Would metals count as biomass? I'm not sure. I guess they could break down certain metals they might need for their biology to function, but would geological resources register much with them or would they take more of a back seat on the 'things to nom' list.