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metallifan wrote:

Deathbot wrote:Don't forget, the Tyranids eat a planet's oceans, atmosphere, and any useful materials inside of it as well. So just because a world has no life doesn't mean it can't be Tyranid munchies.

If it has an ocean though, I wouldn't consider it a 'dead world' pe se, because it still has live on a microbiological scale. When I think 'Dead World" I think like, nothing more than carved rock and settled dust concealing vast tomb networks several Kilometers below the surface. A planet with little or no natural atmosphere left.

Would metals count as biomass? I'm not sure. I guess they could break down certain metals they might need for their biology to function, but would geological resources register much with them or would they take more of a back seat on the 'things to nom' list.

They also eat the metals out of the planet's core. I suppose a world like you describe might qualify as "light snack" on the "things to nom" list. A splinter fleet fleeing from a losing battle might use it as a desperate source of energy.

Hmm, maybe. Because I remember in the Necron 'dex there was a message from an Imperial Explorator fleet talking about how a Tyranid fleet completely bypassed a dead world, which happened to be a Necron Tomb World. I wonder if they were avoiding it because it was dead, or are the Nids' somehow able to detect Necron presence and realize the threat?

metallifan wrote:Hmm, maybe. Because I remember in the Necron 'dex there was a message from an Imperial Explorator fleet talking about how a Tyranid fleet completely bypassed a dead world, which happened to be a Necron Tomb World. I wonder if they were avoiding it because it was dead, or are the Nids' somehow able to detect Necron presence and realize the threat?

The Hive Mind operates via the Warp, and the Necrons have anti-Warp weapons. Perhaps the Tyranids didn't think they had a big enough force with them to challenge the Necrons on that planet. Or maybe there were some tastier worlds around and they intended to come back later.

Well the Hive mind is sort of 'in the gap' between Reality and the Warp, but that's a good point. The Necrons might have clouded or confused the Hive Mind and managed to divert them away. It said the fleet just completely bypassed the world, despite the fact that they could've landed and consumed it with really no resistance. Hmm... This bears further consideration!

@metallifan

I understand what you mean by comical paragraphes but I'm just frustrated with the fact that I didn't have much to say but still had a comedic response as well and don't think that quality is in the quantity of my post. I feel incredibly offended by you however that would insult in such a degree that you are treating me like a 5 year old. I'm 13, yes I'm yough, but I don't deserve to be treated like a mindless child. Also, if I made a post that was malinformed, please tell me nicely, I don't know what Pedro Kantor's favorite meal is, so please informe rather then act like I have no knoledge of eny sort. I hope we can end this as I have had many fights with people on other forums about them needing to respect the little guy more. And so I just want some respect from you if your not too bothered to give it.

locbot wrote:@metallifan

I understand what you mean by comical paragraphes but I'm just frustrated with the fact that I didn't have much to say but still had a comedic response as well and don't think that quality is in the quantity of my post. I feel incredibly offended by you however that would insult in such a degree that you are treating me like a 5 year old. I'm 13, yes I'm yough, but I don't deserve to be treated like a mindless child. Also, if I made a post that was malinformed, please tell me nicely, I don't know what Pedro Kantor's favorite meal is, so please informe rather then act like I have no knoledge of eny sort. I hope we can end this as I have had many fights with people on other forums about them needing to respect the little guy more. And so I just want some respect from you if your not too bothered to give it.

"NECRONS WIN! HA!" Isn't funny. It's a waste of a post. Where have I insulted you? I haven't called you a feth-wad or a moron or anything. The closest I came was saying you were being cranky because you were. You're overreacting. If you'd stop overreacting every time someone points out that you're wrong somewhere, you'd probably be treated better. If you don't want to take 5 and go to Lexicanum or referance a Codex for some info, that's not my fault. I see no disrespect in my treatment of you. I've simply corrected you where you're wrong and told you to simmer down when you start getting touchy.

If you can't handle people correcting you and telling you to stop being so edgy when you start getting cranky, you shouldn't be on forums. I don't get offended when someone says I'm wrong, because if it's true it's true. I treat it as a lesson. You should do the same, or you're going to end up having fights here with people just like your other forums. That's some friendly advice. If you get offended by that, then there's not much else I can say to help you.

there's difference from telling someone they're wrong and being a douche about it. I think I'm just gonna stay with the MWG forums. Oh and I want be checking your responce so don't even bother making one. I tried to end this but apparently you think to highly of yourself for that to happen.

The Imperium are kinda the good guys, so you want them to win. The Tau would eventually be all wiped out perhaps my the 'nids or the Orks or something and the 'nids would then keep overrunning the universe until there are only a few Human Hive Worlds left and there would be a big showdown between the 'nids and all the Space Marine chapters untied.

If all the orks united theyd kill everything

Hey again guys, sorry for not replying to you sooner metallifan but ive been at a loss of a computer

The nid hivemind is a massive warp being, the soul of all the tyranid race and tomb worlds have an aura of what is essentially antiwarp that leaves a VERY bad taste in the the hive minds psycic mouth, this antiwarp is what causes the nids to avoid tombworlds.

and locbot, your posts are without any real research or seemingly any reasoning so dont be surprised when people treat you like a child.


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ultramarinelord wrote:The Imperium are kinda the good guys, so you want them to win. The Tau would eventually be all wiped out perhaps my the 'nids or the Orks or something and the 'nids would then keep overrunning the universe until there are only a few Human Hive Worlds left and there would be a big showdown between the 'nids and all the Space Marine chapters untied.

The imperium (haha! little case i, im such a rebel) are in no way shape or form goodguys
Space facists feigning worship for a false deity in order to oppress the majority is pretty much bad guy material for any action/scifi film.

What people must remember about the nids is they are just passing through, they will consume all in their path and just carry on going to the next galaxy rather than having a massive standoff - orks and necron however ARE here to stay and they will have a standoff with either eachother or who ever else survives the nids (or in the orks case themselves).

"Feth-wad" - Now that is EPIC!

corpsesarefun wrote:
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ultramarinelord wrote:The Imperium are kinda the good guys, so you want them to win. The Tau would eventually be all wiped out perhaps my the 'nids or the Orks or something and the 'nids would then keep overrunning the universe until there are only a few Human Hive Worlds left and there would be a big showdown between the 'nids and all the Space Marine chapters untied.

The imperium (haha! little case i, im such a rebel) are in no way shape or form goodguys
Space facists feigning worship for a false deity in order to oppress the majority is pretty much bad guy material for any action/scifi film.

What people must remember about the nids is they are just passing through, they will consume all in their path and just carry on going to the next galaxy rather than having a massive standoff - orks and necron however ARE here to stay and they will have a standoff with either eachother or who ever else survives the nids (or in the orks case themselves).

A false deity? I seem to recall that during the Horus Heresy, when Horus was fighting with all the powers of the Chaos Gods combined and after he had torn the Emperor's arm off, when the Emperor finally decided to use his full power he not only killed Horus but purged his very soul from existence in mere seconds. Besides, they really don't have a choice. Everyone else wants to kill them or eat their souls. Or both.

The Tau resume negotiations with the orks and finally show them the light. They join the Tau and work with them towards the Greater good.

Instead of killing planets populations the Tau can now easily "convince" them to join the greater good or loose the orks on them.

The Eldar see what is happening and also pledge themselves to the Greater Good.

With the brilliance of the Tau and Eldar together with the army of the Orks, they easily conquer most of the galaxy. Most of the Imperium joins up with them as well as the smart Space marines.

No one can oppose the mighty army of the TauDar. And all of the races that don't join the greater good are easily destroyed.

Thanks to the Eldar having dealt with the problems of being a super force before, they don't fall into the recesses that they did last time and Chaos becomes a distant memory.

Eventually the Taudar incorporate the most genius of mankind into their empire rulers and a empire is born that has the best of each race helping lead it.

They eventually build a giant space station that can destroy entire planets and rule the galaxy with an Iron fist. No one ever rises to oppose them. (except a small band of "rebels"...)

corpsesarefun wrote:Hey again guys, sorry for not replying to you sooner metallifan but ive been at a loss of a computer

The nid hivemind is a massive warp being, the soul of all the tyranid race and tomb worlds have an aura of what is essentially antiwarp that leaves a VERY bad taste in the the hive minds psycic mouth, this antiwarp is what causes the nids to avoid tombworlds.

and locbot, your posts are without any real research or seemingly any reasoning so dont be surprised when people treat you like a child.


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ultramarinelord wrote:The Imperium are kinda the good guys, so you want them to win. The Tau would eventually be all wiped out perhaps my the 'nids or the Orks or something and the 'nids would then keep overrunning the universe until there are only a few Human Hive Worlds left and there would be a big showdown between the 'nids and all the Space Marine chapters untied.

The imperium (haha! little case i, im such a rebel) are in no way shape or form goodguys
Space facists feigning worship for a false deity in order to oppress the majority is pretty much bad guy material for any action/scifi film.

What people must remember about the nids is they are just passing through, they will consume all in their path and just carry on going to the next galaxy rather than having a massive standoff - orks and necron however ARE here to stay and they will have a standoff with either eachother or who ever else survives the nids (or in the orks case themselves).

You're Computer-capable once more. That's what matters

Hm... I always remembered the Hive Mind being referred to as a psychic presence that existed in the gap between the Warp and the Material world. Thanks for the answer on why they avoid Tomb worlds though

And yea, the Imperium of the 41st Millenium would not be considered 'good guys'. Is there even such a thing? I would think that it all depends on one's opinion of what 'good' is. In any case, the Highlords of Terra have corrupted and twisted the Imperium to suit their views of what the Emperor would want. In truth, the Emperor would be pulling his hair out if he found out that the Imperium had become a Religious Theocracy devoted to Worshipping him as a god. They use the Inquisition to further their goals through the use of intimidation and terror tactics. Even the Imperium couldn't be considered 'good' by definition. Just one of the better options.

Yea, the Nids would go about munching on everything in their path, but they'd still be opposed by the Crons and Orks. Which (IMHO) are the two best candidates for holding them at bay. I could see a Stagnant conflict between the three ocurring. That or the Nids decide it's more effort than it's worth for what would be left in such a case, and they leave the Orks and Crons to eachother with plans to come back and nom the victor.

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Timmah wrote:Eventually the Taudar incorporate the most genius of mankind into their empire...

CREEEEEEEEEEED!

Timmah wrote:They eventually build a giant space station that can destroy entire planets and rule the galaxy with an Iron fist. No one ever rises to oppose them. (except a small band of "rebels"...)

And then it gets blown up by a 20 year old water farmer from Tallarn

locbot wrote:Oh haha your halarious. Guys please stop picking on me.

Y eah guys that's not nice
On the topic though,The Imperium economy plummets and every human starves.
Know with their sworn enemy dead the Chaos Space Marines rebel against the gods for something to do and end up dead.
The Eldar and Dark Eldar realize their race is dying out and make love to each other but then they both get AIDS and keel over.
The necrons go in an all-out war with the orks and and they both kill each other for some reason.
Then the Tau realize that they were foolish enough to go to war with the Tyranids and commit mass suicide as directed by the Etherals.
Then with the whole galaxy dead the tyranids starve.
Without nothing to do the chaos gods start fighting beginning with Khorne attacking slaanesh beccause he was not getting new skulls and so he starts screaming "stop torturing people!Just kill them already!"
they hae a huge war and when Khorne thinks he's won Slaanesh rapes him in the middle of the night and kills him. But a bloodthirster is like "Blood for the Blood God." and kills Slaanesh before he ends up fading himself.
With Khorne And Slaanesh out of the way Nurgle ends up poisoning Tzeenetch with a new disease but before it works Tzeentch uses his magic to cure himself before poisoning nurgle with a bar of soap.
With noone to use his plans on Tzeentch commits suicide

The Old Ones are going to come back and be like, WTF??? and blow up the galaxy.

But seriously, Humanity is done for. I hate to say it, but they'll end up on a few really densely populated worlds with little outside contact; then they'll fight off a few invasions, but with so many people it'll be impossible to take them. Eldar are going to go extinct, Leman Russ will never give up, but he won't find anything to save humanity either, Chaos will eventually lose because there will be no one left to worship them, Tau will get bigger, but so slowly that they'll never take the galaxy (and the remainders will be eaten by the 'nids.) No one has any idea how many Necrons there are, and the 'nids will be very confused when they aren't as yummy as the others. The Dark Eldar are scary, but they won't last. Too few of them, not enough drive to colonize, etc.

Now, the Orks are a difficult one to judge. I think they'll be the last to go out, (if not the Tyranids,) but they'll kill themselves off none the less.

It's very difficult to say what will happen. Each race is either on the verge of dying, or is too powerful for their own good.

Most people are sayin that nids would win but in IG codex the 9th vostroyan first born were holding out against the nids and were running very low on ammuntion so they opened the gates on Karak prime and with the citys nuclear payload set and the bulk of the hive fleet moloch advancing they detonated the payload killing 85% of the hive fleet and the first born defenders as the winter was close all remaining nids starved to death so if the imperium lure nid hive fleet by nid hive fleet then in the end the nids MIGHT die? Out so there would be 1 threat gone.

Yes the Guard will lure the Hive fleets and they will die cause its dark and cold?

While they fight Orks, Demons, CSM, Eldar, Dark eldar and rebels.

A much larger Tau Empire, whats left of humanity, an all new Eldar ghost army,2 or 3 new emergent races, Small pockest of a crippled tyranid race, and orks.

This is how I see it. The 'Nids mostly by-pass the Tau for two reasons: 1)The Tau don't have a psychic signature to draw the 'Nids to them. 2)The Tau will set up satellite arrays and stealth shields to hide any planets that happen to be near the Tyranid fleets path. The Tau lend what assistance they can to living worlds within their ability to support, thus gaining territory through alliances.

Fully one-half of the 'Nids attempt to attack from above the galactic plane, striking towards Terra. The other half moves towards the maiden worlds.

At that same time the Necrons are awakend by such a huge life force entering the galaxy. The awakened Necrons move for and attack mars thus awakening the void dragon. It is here that the Necrons and Tyrraninds encounter one another and and begin the most epic war of attrition ever seen. The battling necrons and 'nids completely cut off terra from the other segmentums and the battle regularly spills into the Terran defense grid.

The Orks hear of this giant galactic war and start a giant WWAAUUGGHHH out of annoyance that they weren't invited. The opportunistic Orks attack in all directions attempting gain as much territory as possible, still quite a few of the orks make their way to the epic 'Nids vs necrons war.

Abbadon realizes that terra is cut off leaving the area around the eye of terror without support and begins another crusade. Slanesh, assists Abbadon this time and strikes at any eldar, even the DE.

The Eldar have forseen this and the craft worlds move to intercept the forces of Chaos and the necrons or move to protect the maiden worlds.

The reduction of shipping causes the DE to roam farther and in larger numbers than normal. This brings them into contact with races they normally don't see and forces them into longer engagements than what they preffer(Especially with the necrons).

These battles cause the end of the Eldar/DE races but in doing so ghost/wraith races are born. Ironically, they end up sharing some similar traits to the Necron race by becoming immortal spirits that live on in living armour.

The Necrons and Tyranids exhaust the majority of their strength on one another in the battle over which gets to feast upon the prize of Terra.


I'll leave the rest to your imagination, Later

What about this 5th Chaos God that was promised focusfire?

Your version makes sense.

Wasn't the fifth god supposed to come out when the emprah died?

crazypsyko666 wrote:The Old Ones are going to come back and be like, WTF??? and blow up the galaxy.

But seriously, Humanity is done for.

LOL
But seriously I can't believe that humanity has made it to the 41st millenium.

crazypsyko666 wrote:Wasn't the fifth god supposed to come out when the emprah died?

the 5th chaos god is malal but everyone ignores him

Well everyone except the stupid Sons of Malice

penut the butter wrote:Well everyone except the stupid Sons of Malice

I thought they were undivided/renegade in current fluff?

Although they must be renegade as in C:CSM there is only one kind of marine... THE RENEGADE KIND!

Renagade means that your an outcast. It says that they worship Mala or Malice. Same guy different name.

penut the butter wrote:Renagade means that your an outcast. It says that they worship Mala or Malice. Same guy different name.

in CSM terms renegade means loyal to the emperor but not to the imperium, like the soul drinkers, or marines that dont serve chaos or the imperium.

I think your right. But it also means that you are not part of your original faction.

penut the butter wrote:I think your right. But it also means that you are not part of your original faction.

Yes but in 40k is has a SPECIFIC meaning

The nids and orks will destroy everyone else then fight eachother.