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Yes,I could watch that,I should clearify that I don't dislike all Anime (and my Girlfriend watches loads of it),I just don't care for most of it.
I find alot of the "artwork" dull & many of the story lines boring and repititious,but I have seen some that I do like.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Yes,I could watch that,I should clearify that I don't dislike all Anime (and my Girlfriend watches loads of it),I just don't care for most of it.
I find alot of the "artwork" dull & many of the story lines boring and repititious,but I have seen some that I do like.
Chances are , your GF watches a certain genre of anime.
Thus all the ones you seen with her naturally similar = you wont like them.
Just like afternoon anime are targeted towards children , naturally you are only exposed to
pokemon , yugioh , bakugan etc etc.
Luna wrote:I just want to bring up an example why anime is a good medium.
AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
I give up.
They are related, but not by style, they are related by story themes
Yeah, cool - story themes can be considered a stylistic feature, then.
So as un-artisticly educated fan of Anime, I say 'I like Anime' and someone that knows what styles, genres, and mediums are looks at me and says, 'I don't like Anime b/c of the style of big eyes/exaggerated facial features/disproportionate body parts/loli emphasis/ad nauseum'. Then I look confused and say 'but that's only a small part of Anime' but then they say 'That IS anime' and we both cock our heads and look at the other as if they have no idea what they are talking about...
As for as I can tell, that's what we've got going on. From a fan point of view (and a Canadian marketing point of view) Anime = anything animated from Japan, while it seems that your point of view (and you said your the wrong person to argue medium and stuff with so I'm guessing you've read a book or two on it ) Anime = a style of animation characterized by "exaggerated physical features such as large eyes, big hair and elongated limbs... "
No man, don't misread me - I'm not trying to claim that I've got some sort of 12" mind-cock or anything! Just having a discussion - discourse is good, as it can be enlightening. I think we just got hung up on the 'medium/style/genre' thingy. I've actually learnt a little bit about Anime from this thread - hell, I might even watch some of the films some people recommended!
But the minute I see a big-titted schoolgirl, I'm out!
FITZZ wrote:
I just don't care for most of it.
I find alot of the "artwork" dull & many of the story lines boring and repititious,but I have seen some that I do like.
So, besides your crazy clown avatar, I like the cut of your jib. (scary clown)
And I'd like to say that the problem of visually dull shows and repetitive and boring story lines is what drove me away from a lot of prime time TV
It takes a little bit of knowledge and skill to sort out the good stuff from the crap in any medium. And my gosh, the 'shonen' or however you spell it Anime shows are like copy pasta in TV form. Boy has super powers, boy ends up in some sort of serial fight scenario and fights guy after guy, with lots of talking of super powers, only to develop a new and better power and win! yeah! now do it again... (a la Bleach, Yuyu Haksho, Naruto, Dragon ball, Fairy Tale, D Gray man, ...)
And that's why Anime sucks... but IMHO there are so many more things that makes Anime rock so I just ignore the suck and keep on rocking!
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Supposedly in IDBM , Cameron is making movie of it . I have no idea how they can cram so much story in , perhaps trilogy if it succeeds.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437086/
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Yes,I could watch that,I should clearify that I don't dislike all Anime (and my Girlfriend watches loads of it),I just don't care for most of it.
I find alot of the "artwork" dull & many of the story lines boring and repititious,but I have seen some that I do like.
Chances are , your GF watches a certain genre of anime.
Thus all the ones you seen with her naturally similar = you wont like them.
Just like afternoon anime are targeted towards children , naturally you are only exposed to
pokemon , yugioh , bakugan etc etc.
Actually she watches a wide range of stuff,from Inuyasha and Avatar (wich bore me) to Appleseed and Vampire Hunter D (wich isn't bad),plus a gak load of other stuff(some "meh",some pretty cool).
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
chaplaingrabthar wrote:Yes, Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, Robots in Disguise, Armada, Energon, and Cybertron are all Transformers anime series. That's why it was an easier one. How about this one, what's the anime for:
Cranky New Jersey Doctor with a bum leg diagnoses obscure diseases while helped and hindered by pointless assistants, all in a Sherlock Holmes analogy.
Closest thing that comes to mind immediately is Trauma Center. While not anime, it's Japanese media, so I'm counting it.
Albatross wrote:
Deminyn wrote:Then the bold underline part shows what needs reconciliation with the stuff above.
wikipedia wrote: While different titles and different artists have their own artistic styles, many stylistic elements have become so common that people[who?] describe them as definitive of anime in general. However, this does not mean that all modern anime share one strict, common art style. Many anime have a very different art style from what would commonly be called "anime style", yet fans still use the word "anime" to refer to these titles. Generally, the most common form of anime drawings include "exaggerated physical features such as large eyes, big hair and elongated limbs... and dramatically shaped speech bubbles, speed lines and onomatopoeic, exclamatory typography.
The stuff in bold could be considered common stylistic characteristics - note that I'm not claiming that EVERY anime/manga cartoon has them, but that they are common. I mean there has to be some unifying factors behind anime, otherwise why say you like anime? Why not just say you like a bunch of cartoons which are completely unrelated and in no way similar? It's because that statement would be untrue, no? If you recognise Anime as a style, then surely you have to accept that there are unifying forces at work. Like Rock music - do Meshuggah sound like Nirvana? Not really, but there are points of convergence.
How about this: Anime is the name of animation created by those of a Japanese nationality. Due to various unclassified styles exclusive to the Japanese industry and due to no one who isn't already interested in anime knowing any of those terms even if they were named, it is far easier to simply say "I like anime". Also, because almost all anime are crafted by Japanese culture to a degree, that could be considered the binding feature of anime.
FITZZ wrote: I much prefer this...
To this..
But then that's just my opinion.
Fair enough, I actually am tempted to agree. See, you used a DBZ DUB as opposed to the original Japanese with English subtitles that many consider superior. Because of that, I will provide something for you to judge. You gave a shounen example, so I feel obliged to replace it with something similar. Hope you like mecha.
(To be watched fullscreen with headphones)
Now that is what I define as epic. Not particularly thought provoking or scary, but mind-numbingly awesome.
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Akira
Ghost in the shell
Bubblegum Crisis/AD police.
Cyber City
Appleseed
Battle Armour Dougram
Votoms
I've never actually liked Gundam (any incarnation) or Yamato, or Harlock. DBZ, pokemon, Bakugan etc are all children's cartoons with really bad dubbing. 'Fan service' anime is juvenile/sophomoric at best (jiggle cam or panty shots? I outgrew that crap years ago).
Albatross, you're not alone in disliking much of what is seen as anime these days. My clubmates think me strange because I refuse to watch what they do = but they are 17 and I am ... much older than that.
I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
Well albatross since your wanting to avoid the school girls I reccomend Spriggan for a great action movie. Not a single scantily clad female or "big-titted schoolgirl" in the entire movie.
I lent out my copy, but if you can find this quote in the 2nd, 3rd or fourth episode of The Count of Monte Cristo... great writing
I am no longer all alone wallowing in abject solitude for I am now surrounded by the furies; the goddesses of vengeance
In the cold bosom of the darkness I awaited the dawn and once dawn came I cursed my flesh until night fell once more.
I even prayed that I would lose my sanity. but those prayers went unheeded: nothing changed. And when I strove for the
peacefulness of death, the devil's cold pitiless hand grabbed hold and held me back... Well, it won't be long now.
Count of Monte Cristo Ep 3@09:55 or so. The style is kinda... elven (or at least, the aliens are) and the colouring of the animation is pretty crazy.
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Snikkyd wrote:I only like certain anime, I don't get the people who like all anime.
I seriously doubt that there's a person who would like all anime...
Actually the only reason why I posted in this topic was cause I wanted to know have any of you guys read Liar game (sadly there is only manga version of it), cause the great question came to me...
Who would win in a 40k match? Akiyama (protagonist of Liar Game) or Creed...
For those of you who havent read it I suggest you do cause the 40k game between those two would be somethin like this
Pschylogical Genius VS. Tactical Genius
As darkness surrounds us all
Our prayers towards light we direct.
P.S. WE LAUGH AT YOUR NON-RED VEHICLES SIR!
3k DA WEIRD ORKZES
I like Anime that isn't too anime-ish. I suppose the most important thing for Anime (or rather, any medium) is how well the world is set up. You know, how they pick a theme and run with it. I rather liked bleach when it started out (Soul Society Arc) because it was different, then it turned into a flying DBZ clone.
My Favorites:
FullMetal Alchemist
Trigun
Robotech (first season ONLY, Rick Hunter)
Others I've watched:
Robotech's other seasons (barfy Orkmoticon here)
Bleach
Wolf's Rain (mostly because my girlfriend at the time is a huge wolf fanatic.)
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
Currently watching Fate Stay Night and When They Cry right now. Both are great, but entirely different genres: Generic fighting anime on the one hand, horrifying tale of killer lolis on the other.
There are some really good anime that go against the obvious.
Guess it depends on taste and again no fighting but does have androids. The Time of Eve I thought excellent.
also only one episode sadly but Pale Cocoon looks promising. Hope they have some more episodes.
This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
I don't mind anime in general, as it happens. Good anime is a treat to watch, which sounds like stating the obvious until you watch bad anime.
Still, it doesn't top the 90's animated Batman series for me.
Melissia wrote:Stopping power IS a deterrent. The bigger a hole you put in them the more deterred they are.
Waaagh! Gorskar = 2050pts
Iron Warriors VII Company = 1850pts
Fjälnir Ironfist's Great Company = 1800pts
Guflag's Mercenary Ogres = 2000pts
I miss toonami :(
Then lets see what else is there i liked
Dragon ball Z (First couple of seasons later sucked....)
Naruto (its ok)
One Piece
Yu Yu Hakshu! (loved it)
Gundam (first couple of seasons were epic wins )
I can't remember anymore...
Yeah i use to love anime alot but I got out of it and I started getting really into the Red Vs Blue, Supernatural, and NCIS. And warehouse 13. And a few others which i can't remember
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
Albatross wrote: I've got some sort of 12" mind-cock...
I should sig this...I really should.
Slarg232 wrote:I like Anime that isn't too anime-ish. I suppose the most important thing for Anime (or rather, any medium) is how well the world is set up. You know, how they pick a theme and run with it.
I'd definitely agree with this here, anime that isn't too anime-ish. Studio Ghibli tends to chuff out some good ones. Princess Mononoke, and Nausicaa: Valley of the Wind. These were great mostly due to the stage they set, rather than just what happened on it.
Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
Though, yea, James Cameron on Battle Angel will be interesting.
This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
Deathskulls
Logan Grimnar's Great Company
3k DA WEIRD ORKZES 
Iron Warriors VII Company = 1850pts
Guflag's Mercenary Ogres = 2000pts
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