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Pipboy101 wrote:Oh god, here goes the female space marine fest again.



Sorry, there is just not enough gamers out there that would make it worth the time scuplting, molding, and casting just to get a C&D from GW legal.

This. When will people give this bloody thing up? It's just getting annoying now.

I'd buy a female Space Marine model. But first, I'd really like to see a bull steer with a magnificent set of breasts, 28mm please.

Soladrin wrote:

Pipboy101 wrote:Oh god, here goes the female space marine fest again.



Sorry, there is just not enough gamers out there that would make it worth the time scuplting, molding, and casting just to get a C&D from GW legal.

This. When will people give this bloody thing up? It's just getting annoying now.

Seconded.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:The cuirass with the aquila looks feminine to me anyway- as per the Zandris figure above.

While I have a certain sympathy with your sentiment Killkrazy, the point about deflecting surfaces in the article is a good one.

It is a futile exercise to go to all the trouble of creating super humans in power armour, if that armour is going to deflect projectiles towards the vital areas.

It is a futile exercise to go to all the trouble of creating super humans in power armour, if that armour is going to fall to the first meltagun, plasma rifle, railgun, scythe talon that comes along.

It's a game. People only play it because they like the models. Lots of the fluff is complete nonsense. Let's at least make models worth having.

Hi KK

Anything that deflects a blow away from the vitals would be as important in 40K as in 15th century Europe.
Yes it is a game of fantasy, and I like cool looking models, but that does not make real life ergonomics mutually exclusive. In my view if it looks like it would actually have some military function, for which armour is surely intended, then it would be a whole lot cooler.

If you were in close combat wearing power armour you would struggle to hit anything, as the armour would not allow sufficient movement.
Not so cool however good you look

Without piccies it s tricky explaining what I meant about a feminine cuirass, based on the existing breastplate. Some simple carving just under the aquila wings gives a very subtle curve to the armour without screaming, "mammaries live here!"

Centurion wrote:

as I stated in a different thread, I would definately buy ten of them to convert into my noise marines, as long as they offer sufficient poseing options and such. To tell the truth though, for Slaanesh, I would prefer a little less armor (He is the Dark God of Pleasure, after all)

The pic of the model above would make a pretty good SOB model....

sisters of battle have to look cooler than that with cloaks and corset all the way, and there should be no space marine girls cause the inquisitor would exodite a lot of chapters for lust falling to slannesh

Oh, don't worry, Slaanesh would embrace those chapters with open arms, they would have nothing to fear from him/her/it.

My personal opinion has always been that an all women army is pretty stupid. As far as I'm concerned they squat Sisters of Battle as a codex and incorporate them as small elite specialist units in a new codex: Inquisition.

More or less stupid then an all male army?

Ok, TBD; but first we need to squat Space Marines into a single unit option for IG as lets face it, bio-altered soldiers? What is this, some scifi setting?
Oh, and Orks cause their sentient fungus, eldar for being elves, Necrons for being a terminator rip-off, chaos for being fantasy, Tau for being blue.

Hey, at least all women forces has reality backing it up.

TBD wrote:My personal opinion has always been that an all women army is pretty stupid. As far as I'm concerned they squat Sisters of Battle as a codex and incorporate them as small elite specialist units in a new codex: Inquisition.

No.

And, please, let this topic die.

Soldarin

You are welcome to your opinion mate but it is OT
please let those that wish to discuss the matter about resin sm's continue to do so.

Kettu wrote:Ok, TBD; but first we need to squat Space Marines into a single unit option for IG as lets face it, bio-altered soldiers? What is this, some scifi setting?
Oh, and Orks cause their sentient fungus, eldar for being elves, Necrons for being a terminator rip-off, chaos for being fantasy, Tau for being blue.

Hey, at least all women forces has reality backing it up.

I don't think any of what yout typed makes sense, even when considering we are talking about a sci-fi setting, but you are entitled to your opinion just as much as I am.

Anyway, IMO an all female army is about as stupid as an all female team competing in the NFL, or, God forbid an all female version of the NFL.

And I was saying, IMO, that saying an army is stupid because of gender in a setting that includes Sentient Fungus, Bio-Altered Super-Soldiers and Robot Skeletons like Terminator and The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad is, in and of itself, kinda stupid.

And what, never seen women rugby before?

Womens rugby is rough!! those chicks tear eachother apart

TBD wrote:

Kettu wrote:Ok, TBD; but first we need to squat Space Marines into a single unit option for IG as lets face it, bio-altered soldiers? What is this, some scifi setting?
Oh, and Orks cause their sentient fungus, eldar for being elves, Necrons for being a terminator rip-off, chaos for being fantasy, Tau for being blue.

Hey, at least all women forces has reality backing it up.

I don't think any of what yout typed makes sense, even when considering we are talking about a sci-fi setting, but you are entitled to your opinion just as much as I am.

Anyway, IMO an all female army is about as stupid as an all female team competing in the NFL, or, God forbid an all female version of the NFL.

SoB tell you otherwise... Also, how is in any way making an army gender specific stupid in this setting? Or are SM also stupid? Cause obviously the only reason you think it's stupid, is because their women. Send in the feminists?

Somehow, I just had a mental vision of that cartoon where the commissar tells the sisters of battle to go back to the kitchen. I think we all remember how that ended.

that said: back on topic.

As before, we have several objectors to female space marines on fluff grounds, but still no assertations (that make sense) on why they will not sell.

ATM I'm working on some 3d models so I have something to export to CAD. I may or may not post a few renderings.

They may be able to sell, but even GW has enough self respect to not throw years of fluff out of the window...
Is what I want to believe.. :(

Soladrin wrote:They may be able to sell, but even GW has enough self respect to not throw years of fluff out of the window...
Is what I want to believe.. :(

Really?
Look at what they did with the GK fluff, once they were and are the soul cration of the 2nd legion, now..... :(

Jollydevil wrote:

BaronIveagh wrote:I've been pondering this for a while:

We've had people produce Female IG, and hoards of daemonettes of various makes and models, though no BS for obvious reasons.

Considering that there seems to be a demand for such a thing, even if it's only to piss off a certain type of gamer, why has not one of our talented modelers made some resin Female Space Marine bits?

I know *I* would gladly buy some.

This wouldnt fit the warhammer scenario at all for a couple reasons:
1. How do you genetically alter a girl to become a space marine and keep her looking like a girl still?
2. I dont think the emporer allows women to be in the army/navy/air force/special forces (Im not trying to be sexist here, so im sorry if i offend any of you women out there )
3. Whats the piont of producing the armor to fit women if there are only a couple of them? Not to mention the weapons would have to be reproduced to fit their hands better.
Other than the scenario issues, i think it would be cool to see an army of hot space marine girls.

What do you mean? Females are in basically every IG regiment. IG is coed. As for Female SM, he just wanted some bits, not a giant argument over weather or not they actually exist in the fluff. Give it a rest.

Honestly, girl space marines wouldn't look much different than male ones, they'll be jacked up on testosterone and their boobs would have been likely removed (or at least reduced) for obvious reasons.

Female Space Marines offend the fluff nazi within me.

Even if "it's your army", it's HERESY.

i actually heard that female SM are heresy in the Emperor book (i lust heard it it is not my opinion)

May the Emperor protect
and Kayla Mencha Kane guide you all

It's just plain wrong!

You would also end up with space marines asking "does my bum look big in this power armour?" or "you know these chapter colours really don't go with my hair any chance of a nice mauve colour scheme?"

That and I don't think scatter cushions would ever look good inside a thunderhawk.

We have heard all the objections already here and elsewhere

But they still don't address the OP.

Even if you disagree with the issue it is only fair to respect the Baron's thread.
would like to see the WIP please.

It addressed the OP in the way that it has become clear, again, that almost nobody cares about female space marines and therefor it would not be worthwhile for anybody to sculpt them with the intention to sell and make a profit.

Yet he keeps nagging about it because he doesn't like the answer he got to his question.

Baron is hardly nagging. In fact he has been incredibly patient and good natured about things.

"it is just plain wrong" does nothing to establish whether there is a demand or not. It merely confirms that there is a vociferous element that are merely trying to shout down the idea, while totally disregarding the thoughts and wants of other members.

We know that some people oppose the idea. That is NOT the issue of this thread.

There are several threads existing already containing the opposing viewpoint.

The problem with female space marines is that chapters recruit neophytes at around 13 or 14 which is when boy's generally start puberty, girls on the other hand can start as early as 10.

The gene seed of each chapter has to be implanted whilst the recipient is undergoing these basic changes is physiology.

And whilst possible to recruit girls of this age, it is not tasteful to place what are primary school children into a combat (all be it training) situation.

Not to mention that on a purely sales driven reason most people who enter the hobby are boys between the ages of 11-16, which fits with the space marine induction age (coincidence?).