Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

All of that would be true if we knew for sure anything about the fluff in a codex that's taken 12 years to be redone.

I'd also chime in that Khaine is likely not too well-disposed towards the Dark Eldar.

When the Fall occurred, Khaine fought Slaanesh to the bitter end, letting She Who Thirsts shatter him into thousands of pieces rather than surrender.

The Dark Eldar, on the other hand, have decided on a firm policy of appeasement towards Slaanesh. They offer her souls to protect their own, and they essentially devalue Khaine's sacrifices for their race.

bhsman wrote:All of that would be true if we knew for sure anything about the fluff in a codex that's taken 12 years to be redone.

Reading the timeline will be funny

Dont they have less population than the tau? I cant see them doing too much in galactic affairs besides raiding worlds and killing people which is what everyone else does. Unless they pull some sort of Farsight on us and some DE found awesome technology or something

Initially, they only lived in Commorragh. However, recent fluff has referenced 'vast new cities' in the webway, meaning DE could now be the type to start fielding larger forces.

Ketara wrote:Initially, they only lived in Commorragh. However, recent fluff has referenced 'vast new cities' in the webway, meaning DE could now be the type to start fielding larger forces.

Great, so new DE cities will become the killing grounds instead of the Eldar Craftworlds just made up for a certain occasion, like Malantai and their Doom.

Kurgash wrote:

Ketara wrote:Initially, they only lived in Commorragh. However, recent fluff has referenced 'vast new cities' in the webway, meaning DE could now be the type to start fielding larger forces.

Great, so new DE cities will become the killing grounds instead of the Eldar Craftworlds just made up for a certain occasion, like Malantai and their Doom.

I can imagine we'll have SC from certain cities now.

Talos as Troop choices anyone?

Ketara wrote:Initially, they only lived in Commorragh. However, recent fluff has referenced 'vast new cities' in the webway, meaning DE could now be the type to start fielding larger forces.

The anthology "Fear the Alien" has a pretty good short story about the Dark Eldar and was probably written with the new DE 'dex in mind.

It is also interesting to note that they had grenade launchers on their Raiders.

Which is a usable vehicle upgrade at the moment. It's called a Horrorfex, or a Terrorfex . . . the other is a wristmounted version.

Oshova

Not familiar with Dark Eldar...at all really, so that's news to me!

Terrorfex and Horrorfex grenades are one of the few things that Wraithbone is used for. Glad to hear they'll probably keep it.

DE fluff being retooled is one of the things I'm most anxious to see. So much wasted potential as it is now.

chaos0xomega wrote: The Dark Eldar do not use wraithbone... w

Soul Seeker Ammunition is Wraithbone, captured wraithbone in fact.

Sounds cool...Only a week from now! I can't wait. Or rather, I can, since I don't really care about DE...

A week until we see the back page of White Dwarf skip!

I reckon we'll see Advance Orders going up around...hold on...5th October?

A week when JG talks more about DE and shows off some of his sculpts. Trust me, Dakka and Seer will crash that day (and all other 40k forums).

All of them except tauonline

Samus_aran115 wrote:All of them except tauonline

ouch

Taco bell will copy/paste warseer.

Fateweaver wrote:A week when JG talks more about DE and shows off some of his sculpts. Trust me, Dakka and Seer will crash that day (and all other 40k forums).

Oh yeah. Games Day.

D'oh.

Samus_aran115 wrote:All of them except tauonline

Dohohohohoho

Lol, I should warn BigRed to make sure BoLS doesn't crash that day.

This looks interesting. I can't wait to burn them to a crisp and melta all their vehicles.

Melissia wrote:Lol, I should warn BigRed to make sure BoLS doesn't crash that day.

This looks interesting. I can't wait to burn them to a crisp and melta all their vehicles.

Ha. Raiders are really losing their edge with all the melta floating around these days. It's what..A 4+ to Pen with a plasma gun? Even a heavy bolter can take down a raider...

Scottywan82 wrote:I'd also chime in that Khaine is likely not too well-disposed towards the Dark Eldar.

When the Fall occurred, Khaine fought Slaanesh to the bitter end, letting She Who Thirsts shatter him into thousands of pieces rather than surrender.

The Dark Eldar, on the other hand, have decided on a firm policy of appeasement towards Slaanesh. They offer her souls to protect their own, and they essentially devalue Khaine's sacrifices for their race.

There was that line in Battle Missions about the Dark Eldar worshipping Khaine. Again, this isn't a codex with repeatedly established fluff, it's Dark Eldar. I'd say a 'Dark Avatar' is still possible at this point.

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Melissia wrote:Lol, I should warn BigRed to make sure BoLS doesn't crash that day.

This looks interesting. I can't wait to burn them to a crisp and melta all their vehicles.

Ha. Raiders are really losing their edge with all the melta floating around these days. It's what..A 4+ to Pen with a plasma gun? Even a heavy bolter can take down a raider...

But that's why you take nightshields on everything!!!!! Then everything your enemy fires at you has 6 inches less for range, this makes melta guns pretty useless and the melta pistol things the Sang Guard have completely useless! I really hope that the new DE have something to actually show that they have nightshields

bhsman wrote:I'd say a 'Dark Avatar' is still possible at this point.

The currently existing rumours say "not so much". So are you saying it's still possible in a theoretical way or have you heard something?

The big problem with an Avatar is that it's stuck walking from the deployment zone. While nearly everything else in the DEldar army is mobile. Back when I played CrEldar I didn't like using the Avatar because it was so difficult to keep him caught up with the rest of my army- I can't imagine how much more of a pain it would be with the even faster Dark Eldar.

Fluffwise, I have real trouble imagining the Dark Eldar leaders would sacrifice themselves to awaken it for just one battle. I think if you're really dead-set on a Dark Avatar, you'd be better off converting a Talos to fit the part. Perhaps you could say the Dark Eldar captured bits of an avatar from some destroyed craftworld and filled in the gaps with bits from some destroyed wraithlords or something. And forced a bonesinger to make wings so it can hover (and look scary demonic). The difference between Avatar and Talos stat lines could be explained by the Dark Eldar sacrificing unwilling captured slaves to it rather than volunteer exarchs.

I dont really like the idea of a Dark Avatar but maybe they can do it a lot faster so they could do it mid battle? Much like a Greater Daemon possession?

Talked to my local store guy this weekend and he informs me that this upcomeing DE release will actually just be a "preview" for next years actual release. He has always been very reliable with rumors, and gets alot of the models and codexes in weeks before they are released.

Im no troll, nor am I trying to blow smoke up anyones a$$, but I really believe that GW is just going to give us a taste of whats to come in Nov and not an actual release. There attempt at building a big buyer base before what equates to releasing a whole new race really with how long they have left poor DE dead on the table. Smart move and still exciting if you ask me.

But anyway take it or leave it, idc if you believe it or not.

Did he say where he heard that from? Or at least what such a conjecture is based upon?
If that's true then what is November's real release? Cause a 'preview' of a release doesn't really count as a release... In fact it's right up on the GW website that the preview for DE will be at GD UK, in a week... So is this source of yours implying that November is going to be some sort of 'second wave preview'?

Not trying to troll or anything, but this sounds like some pretty dubious hearsay.

Ill get all the details tomorrow when I go to the shop. I live 10min from my local store . But it sounds like he heard it from his suppliers at GW. When he asked if he would be getting any of the stuff for his black box display on the new DE release in Nov thats what they told him. Hes not the kind of man to jerk anyones chain either, very professional. But I'll get more details tomorrow. Just rumors take with salt of course he could be wrong and those clowns at GW are just messing with them. ing with there consumers seems to be GWs buisness strategy lately .

I went into a GW on the weekend, and answered the customary "So what do you play" question with "Marines until Dark Eldar come out"

The redshirt excitedly said something about them coming in november, though I have no idea if he had heard that from a "source" or just from reading forums etc.

The source is the GW website and White Dwarf.