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Just wondering, how many Flamers/Meltaguns come in the chaos space marine Battle Force?

I'll get more pics of the painted models and the blu tacced model this afternoon.



M.K

Erh... No idea...

Depending on whether the "regular" CSM sprues inside are the new or the old ones, it can be either one (1) of each if new sprues, or zero (0) if the old ones (there was just a plasmagun on the old command sprues, IIRC)...

I guess you'd better buy some CSM boxes, there'll be one of each special weapon with every box!

Thanks!
As soon as I have access to a camera and a computer, I'll get some pics.


M.K

Yes, yes ANOTHER question.
which areas should I highlight on the marines' armour?


M.K

The edges?!?

(sorry, easy answer...)

Here are some pics of my aspiring champ and his PF


A power fist...

...for a powerful aspiring champ


PLEASE GIVE C&C

M.K

Nice job.
but in the second pic it looks a bit blue...

that would be because of my stupid camera.

Very chaosy looking marines. The use of black and white works very well.

Why thank you, Cain!

I'll get more pics (and more paint on the minis )



M.K

Here are the more pics

A plasma gunner...

...An aspiring champ...

...the start of an alliance


C&C WELCOME/NEEDED


M.K

They look good from a distance, but I think you're using a brush way too large for painting out the details...

There seems to be a lot of places where you spill a colour on the neighbouring place, which gives a sketchy impression of your nice colour choice...

What kind of brush do you use?
In any case, your models would greatly benefit from a somewhat heavy wash, that will help tie the colours & blur the connecting areas by shading them... (especially on the armour plates)

Other than this, I like the metallic parts on the plasma, they're great!

I use a:
fine detail brush for the detail
wash brush for the washes
standard/detail/fine detail for the armour plates.

While I'm thinking of it, here are the models cmparded to the *original* scheme


Later I'll post more up-to-date pics of the champ.
M.K

Well, it's quite close to the idea!!!

I almost never use the fine detail brush, I find it too small and the near-absence of a water/paint "tank" makes it uncomfortable to work with...

As for the washes, they are nicely used on the bone & metal parts, but you shouldn't be afraid of applying a heavy black, or devlan wash to the armour plates as they are now. As I said, it would smoothe the transitions between the various parts...

I've goten the pics of the aspiring champ with wash. Here it is:


How does he look now?


M.K

I think he looks way better... The transitions are blurred & blended by the wash...

Well, that's my opinion, but other Dakkaites might have some thoughts too!

Looks like you washes pool in a few places to me. But otherwise I like it.

Got to agree, he looks better with the wash on.
Don't agree on brush size. It really doen't matter as long a there is a good tip. Windsor Newton Series 7 size 2 is a huge brush in my opinion, but I've seen people paint perfect pupils and retinas on 28mm models with it.

About possible ways to improve: Try to apply several thin and more diluted layers of paint. I might be wrong, but judging from the pics you seem to use the paints quite as they come, thats too thick. If you don't dilute even more, it's worth the patience.

I acually do water my paints down, but maybe not enough.
The base coat for the grey is several (about 2-4) coats of fortress grey.
the trim is 1-2 coats of adeptus battle grey.

I've just reaised that the top left (right?) doesn't have enugh wash on it.

Thank you all for the C&C about it!


Wll get more pics.


M.K

Some more pics:




C&C Needed!


M.K

They are looking way better. Washes are the king.

Just make sure you trim off that flash on the berzerker.

Lookin' great.

I agree, the new pic of the paintjob looks good.
About the other pics: What is the last supposed to be? I once built my possessed csm (slaanesh) using tyranid arms, are you going for the same thing? I think the auspex and the mutation don't look that good together, maybe thats just me.

The last pic is a lord/aspiring champ mock-up that has been blu tacced together.
I agree with you about the auspex, but I don't know what else to put there (bolters too big, already has a pistol, already has a close combat weapon, I'm talking too much... )
Does anyone have any ideas on what to put there?

M.K

They look so much better with a wash!
I am loving the fluff! Also good luck on the Stormbird, I am defiantly watching this.

Thank you Arken!
I haven't had a chance lately to update or paint some models, as I've had too many assignments. But, I do have some stuff to show you!
Firstly, comparisons!
Before...

After....

Before...

After....


And the original scheme...



M.K

They look sooooo much better with washes. Keep doing that.

Thanks! I will
Later on today I'm going to go to my gaing club's monthly gaming meeting. And I'm going to (hopefully) get a rematch against them bugs! (and win this time)
I had to give my aspiring champ a quick fix, too. One of mycousins got hold of him ysterday and broke his back spike in half!

Anyway, I shouldhave some time free today to paint some more minis.


M.K

Good luck for your game against Tyranids!

Looks lie that lck wasn't needed.
The bugs didn't turn up
I fully destroyed some guard though

So much so good then!!!