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Atma01 wrote:If the Ultras want to avoid a repeat they should go learn some strategy from the Tau. Due to Puretide's teachings Shadowsun was able to command a Tau fleet and destroy a Nid splinter fleet without losing a single ship. And the Tau have the arguable worst navy in the universe. Problem Astartes?

Words cannot express how much I hate this particular piece of fluff. No causalities? I don't think so. Not even the heavenly saints of blueness could have pulled that one off.

Alphapod wrote:

Atma01 wrote:If the Ultras want to avoid a repeat they should go learn some strategy from the Tau. Due to Puretide's teachings Shadowsun was able to command a Tau fleet and destroy a Nid splinter fleet without losing a single ship. And the Tau have the arguable worst navy in the universe. Problem Astartes?

Words cannot express how much I hate this particular piece of fluff. No causalities? I don't think so. Not even the heavenly saints of blueness could have pulled that one off.

Actually their is a bit more to it then that. The Tau are for the most part are not bound by doctrine and rituals and adapt and change their technology and strategic think quite regularly. The fluff pretty much says that the Tyranids have had the hardest time facing the Tau, because they are so similar. The Tyranids adapt their biology, the Tau adapt their technology.

Plus I have seen far worst fluff slapped up. Like oh say... the Ultra Marines holding one planet with a bunch of PDF and one company of marines.

Thats why my chapter doesn't follow the codex.
The Ultras have also screwed my chapter over a few times. And marine players who are ultramarines retreated and left me to face a horde of enemies for another purpose of redeploying to ensure they don't die. It is the first thing kids see when they walk into a store. The Ultras are kinda of by the book, and I hate following the book. It limits everything and the sense of difference. And they don't seem human at all. People need characters you can relate too.

My theory is that the majority of 40k players who hate Ultramarines also hate the Indianapolis Colts.
(i feel that anyone outside the US won't get this joke...)

Probably because they have their own movie, and it's pretty crappy CGI. Making you want to vomit into your mouth, and spit it on an Ultramarine players cat.

Just sayin...