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You're going to use a Dreadknight for an armoured sentinel? It is like 4 times the size.

Really? It looks about 2.5x the height of the pilot, so 30mm x 2.5=75mm or so, so I was thinking it's only about 3 inches tall.
Will have to see it in the store first I guess

Daedricbob wrote:Really? It looks about 2.5x the height of the pilot, so 30mm x 2.5=75mm or so, so I was thinking it's only about 3 inches tall.
Will have to see it in the store first I guess

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Aww, ninja'd by a ninja.

Ah... yes... that may be a bit big!

I just like the model because its big and has sweet weapons. but i wish it was more similair to the dreads

It's about 7" tall according to the GW site IIRC. Now considering that was the size of the old Lego Bionicle models (guessing the new ones too), that's pretty darn big.

THe model itself? I like it. It's almost like it's been needed in a sense for imperials, stops us relying on Stumpy the dreadnought Yeah the hammer isn't big enough and the harness is a bit off but otherwise, it's cool. I wouldn't buy one, the pricetag and the fact I'd have no use for it says so But daym I love those guns.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Why the feth do they need some kind of mechanical contraption to suddenly do these things that they've been doing for multiple iterations before using faith, blade, and Terminator armor?

Because Kan, as I've been telling you for such a long time now, the fluff is arbitrary. Why do they need something now that they haven't had before? Because GW needs to sell a new kit, so *bampf* the Dreadknight has now always been there and has been an important part of the Grey Knights for hundreds of years and the thing they always use when fighting Greater Daemons.

Pft.

Then Matt Ward had best pray to his makers he's not at any GW events I go to, or so help me he will get an earful.

Kanluwen wrote:
Then Matt Ward had best pray to his makers he's not at any GW events I go to, or so help me he will get an earful.

I think I saw an article with him saying he had NerdRage filtering earphones he wore for special occasions like GTs.

I know they are big, but I still would like to see them in Apocalypse as well. Possible Dread Knight Apocalypse Formation?

pretre wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
Then Matt Ward had best pray to his makers he's not at any GW events I go to, or so help me he will get an earful.

I think I saw an article with him saying he had NerdRage filtering earphones he wore for special occasions like GTs.

See, it's not nerdrage if you word it articulately and refrain from saying things like "ruined my childhood".

Or 'slap in the face'?

You have to admit, you've come pretty close over the last couple days though.

Nah.

My nerdraging just was mostly to rain on everyone else's parade about the Dreadknight

Lousy gits, thinking it's a good model.

*stalks off mumbling*

I like it because IMO the explanation of its existence is valid. Plus, I believe the Nemesis DreadKnight to be the model realization of the small Knight Titans that have cropped up in the fluff.

You better not let Platuan hear you say that.

The Dreadknight has nothing really in common with the Knight Titans.

oni wrote:I like it because IMO the explanation of its existence is valid. Plus, I believe the Nemesis DreadKnight to be the model realization of the small Knight Titans that have cropped up in the fluff.

Same thing I was thinking too (and have been fruitlessly telling these guys). It justifies the aesthetic alot more than if it was just a random piece of Imperial equipment.

Okay, back to civil discussion.

My personal thoughts on Dreadknights:

1.) The concept of the Dreadknight is just too stupid and unacceptable for me even considering the unrealistic 40k setting. This is just too much: A power suit counting as a monstrous creature? A terminator dangling in front of all the armour in a baby carrier wearing metal diapers with the word Titan engraved??? I can't look at the model and ignore its ridiculousness, sorry. (BTW I also dislike the concept of a Jokaero in an Imperial army).

2.) I like the Penitent engine, because it is a imaginative cyber-crucifix-warengine perfectly fitting the ecclesiarchy thematic. Crazy idea, but good. The Grey Knights theme is ... knights, medieval knights in silver plate mail. Giving them a sleek super-modern powerlifter hits this theme straight in the face. The current Imperium developing new sleek super-modern vehicles from scratch hits the current background in the face, where wars are fought over who gets the ancient templates for a Rhino variant and engineering is done by singing rituals.

3.) I love Tau, I like anime (including Gundam) and Japanese culture, but all this doesn't influence my dislike for this model. So this is also not connected.

4.) If I ever start a Grey Knight army, I have found a perfect model counting as the Dreadknight, although it is still in the works:

NoseGoblin wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Hmmm, a 15mm scale Crusader might be a nice (but supposedly expensive) alternative to the Dreadknight!

I have no idea what the size of the DK is.... a 15mm Crusader and Mortis will be about 4.25" to the top of the shoulder... Just a guestimate, but I would imagine the to be priced at $40 to $60 depending on what the print and mold costs are.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/347738.page


That one looks cool, Imperial and fits the knights theme and the background of Knight Walkers (you know, the small "Titans" from old Epic). It is about the same size and price as the Dreadknight, and I might buy it just for the looks.

Kanluwen wrote:See, it's not nerdrage if you word it articulately and refrain from saying things like "ruined my childhood".

I hope these past couple of days have been a big wake-up call for you Kan to see what it's like on the other-side of the GW love fest you always seem to be part of. As you've no doubt witnessed now across countless pages in countless threads, when it comes to Dakka:

Like GW = Normal member of society.
Dislike anything GW does = Whining hater crybaby.

You cannot criticise GW here without being accused of being a whiny hater who 'hates everything' that GW does. In fact, criticise something enough and someone might even try the "If you don't like it why don't you stop playing!" chestnut that I got thrown at me yesterday (quite amusing really given how positive I've been about the GK models). No discourse is entered into - no one will listen to whatever arguments you may have (legitimate or not) because you simply get labelled as a 'hater' and no matter how much you try to explain your reasoning, people just blank you.

On the other hand, it could be worse, it could be Warseer.

NB: I wonder how long it'll take for someone to say "If you think that about Dakka than why do you post here?" (unironically).

I do think the Dreadknight's a little oversized, but it's pretty cool in its own right. For some reason, though, it just doesn't seem to fit with the GKs...or 40k much at all.

For the record Karamazov was a Monstrous creature, and he was stuck in a throne on legs. The Dreadknight is much more plausable in comparison.

@ HBMC: Dont bother with trying to point out the hypocrisy in others. If their posts differ from the ones they percieve as "haters" by even a little bit, they will be justified in their own minds. I just think of them either having a gun to their head, or are typing from a mental asylum (either one makes me chuckle, since you must be in some hilarious gak if you got a gun to your head to chat on a gaming forum).

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:See, it's not nerdrage if you word it articulately and refrain from saying things like "ruined my childhood".

I hope these past couple of days have been a big wake-up call for you Kan to see what it's like on the other-side of the GW love fest you always seem to be part of. As you've no doubt witnessed now across countless pages in countless threads, when it comes to Dakka:

Like GW = Normal member of society.
Dislike anything GW does = Whining hater crybaby.

You cannot criticise GW here without being accused of being a whiny hater who 'hates everything' that GW does. In fact, criticise something enough and someone might even try the "[i]If you don't like it why don't you stop playing![i]" chestnut that I got thrown at me yesterday (quite amusing really given how positive I've been about the GK models). No discourse is entered into - no one will listen to whatever arguments you may have (legitimate or not) because you simply get labelled as a 'hater' and no matter how much you try to explain your reasoning, people just blank you.

You can. I've criticized the hell out of them and only one person has thought I 'hated everything that GW does'.

That was, I think, more because he wasn't actually fully reading my post and just focusing on "I hate this piece of crap Dreadknight"

Maybe I should start a rant thread on the Jokaero next...

On the other hand, it could be worse, it could be Warseer.

NB: I wonder how long it'll take for someone to say "If you think that about Dakka than why do you post here?" (unironically).

I'm still banned from Warseer because I mocked someone for thinking that "Chaos blew up Cadia".


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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:For the record Karamazov was a Monstrous creature, and he was stuck in a throne on legs. The Dreadknight is much more plausable in comparison.

@ HBMC: Dont bother with trying to point out the hypocrisy in others. If their posts differ from the ones they percieve as "haters" by even a little bit, they will be justified in their own minds. I just think of them either having a gun to their head, or are typing from a mental asylum (either one makes me chuckle, since you must be in some hilarious gak if you got a gun to your head to chat on a gaming forum).

I'd usually agree with you; but in this case it's not so much that I 'hate' what was done to Grey Knights.

I just hate the execution and introduction of this fething Dreadknight(and the Jokaero).

If the execution was done a slight bit different, and it was introduced differently--I'd probably have liked it.

It reminds me of robocop, so yea I like it.

Kroothawk wrote:2.) I like the Penitent engine, because it is a imaginative cyber-crucifix-warengine perfectly fitting the ecclesiarchy thematic. Crazy idea, but good. The Grey Knights theme is ... knights, medieval knights in silver plate mail. Giving them a sleek super-modern powerlifter hits this theme straight in the face. The current Imperium developing new sleek super-modern vehicles from scratch hits the current background in the face, where wars are fought over who gets the ancient templates for a Rhino variant and engineering is done by singing rituals.

So aside from the resin Titan in your post, what would you have done differently with the Dreadknight (assumign the Dreadknight concept remains, but doesn't have to have the same aesthetic).

I think that titan will be a bit small. It says 4" tall. I'm thinking that DK is going to be a bit taller.

Apart from the baby carriage the Dreadknight can be easily modified to look better. Just snip off the arms and legs of the terminator and replace the head with a bigger one, then close off the sides of the front of the torso (where the arms and legs of the terminator goes) and it should look something like that resin titan Kroothawk posted.

Lord Scythican wrote:I know they are big, but I still would like to see them in Apocalypse as well. Possible Dread Knight Apocalypse Formation?

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Each fiinger, toe, and bit sold seperately of course.

Footsloggin wrote:Each fiinger, toe, and bit sold seperately of course.

obviously, what's that, you were expecting something reasonable?

oh, you're serious...

[laughs in face]

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Lord Scythican wrote:I know they are big, but I still would like to see them in Apocalypse as well. Possible Dread Knight Apocalypse Formation?

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Gattai?

it looks like one of those suits from the matrix met an avatar suit and then got mean.