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Erm... I do believe an Orangutan is actuallly a Great Ape, not a mere Ape.
I might be wrong.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, and the writing on the Grey Knight models kind of puts me off.
Reminds me too much of 80's style 'Dave, Cheryl' windscreen names.
Either that, or they get so addled blasting the nervous systems of their enemies, they need name tags on every piece of armour to remind them who it belongs to, where it goes, or what it does. I bet if you could see the Stormbolters to scale, it would have words to the effect 'point this end at the enemy'
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2011/03/16 20:15:59
Subject: Re:Jokaero and Crowe up on Advanced Order
Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:I really, really hope that it states in the Codex that when the player deploys ole Jokey, s/he has to sing, "I'm the King of the Swingers".
That would make me want to play GK's.
They look pretty nice models to me fwiw.
Yea but I'm pretty sure he already has the power of man's red flower. In like... 3 different forms.
Yeah, I also thought that Jokaero is kind of lesser Obliterator, but multi-talented in other areas.
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2011/03/16 21:57:36
Subject: Re:Jokaero and Crowe up on Advanced Order
MagickalMemories wrote:I think some of you have the wrong p.o.v. It's not a monkey taht escapes all the time. It's not a captive. It's an ally. Even if you can't communicate via spoken language, there would be other types of communication.
A Xenos Inquisitor having one of these in it's retinue is no weirder to me than a malleus Inquisitor having, say, a Demonhost.
It doesn't necessarily mean it's being kept captive. Perhaps it's working with the =I= for some other reason that is known only to it.
Seriously, fluff only needs to be *so* deep to be passable for the game.
That would probably work for 1, and as an Inquisitor's Henchmen, but the rumor seems to indicate you can spam them pretty hard.
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Slipstream wrote:Even back in RT days I thought they were just a joke ,hence the name I suppose. I mean Joke in their name? Someone was taking the whatsit. Personally I'm holding out for Rincewind to lead my space marines. He gets into deadly situations and survives every time which is very lucky dice rolling or he has a +1 saving throw!
They'd be the chapter that replaces "And They Shall Know No Fear" with "And They Shall Know Fear All The Time"...
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Mr Mystery wrote:Oh, and the writing on the Grey Knight models kind of puts me off.
Reminds me too much of 80's style 'Dave, Cheryl' windscreen names.
Either that, or they get so addled blasting the nervous systems of their enemies, they need name tags on every piece of armour to remind them who it belongs to, where it goes, or what it does. I bet if you could see the Stormbolters to scale, it would have words to the effect 'point this end at the enemy'
Well, there is some old background that most Space Marines are mind-scrubbed after seeing Chaos. I would assume Grey Knights are mostly immune, but one of the GK novels mentions it. From context it appears that the GK usually only get a light scrub, while others might need to be re-taught quite a bit.
Still better than Imperial Guard, who may be killed to prevent any chance of Chaos taint spreading as they're just not worth the scrubbing and relearning.
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2011/03/16 22:25:05
Subject: Re:Jokaero and Crowe up on Advanced Order
The Jokaero are an alien race, ape-like in appearance.
(...) they have no language, culture or motivation higher than survival.
(...)It is impossible to argue or reason with a Jokaero, and even giving them what they want is difficult, since they are incapable of communicating.
Jokaero tend to build only things which meet their own immediate needs. Attempts to control the Jokaero and force them to construct technology have met with failure as they build things with which to escape from their captors.
Guess Supreme Grand Master Chuck Norris is so awesome that he travelled back in time, changed the official background and travelled back again.
Or Mat Ward has no clue or interest in official background.
NAVARRO wrote: Power to ape!
BrookM's ape is from Micro Art. What is the source for this one??
I like the one thats leaping with the two extra bionic arms, I thaught of jakero as large apes with a bad attitude who smoke cigars while they work on there next mad (but very usefull) invention
2011/03/16 23:07:31
Subject: Re:Jokaero and Crowe up on Advanced Order
Not only do I see "HIT IT WITH YOUR REDEMPTION SWORD!" Becoming a meme...
But I really, honestly am just confused by GW. First they deny that Jokaero, Squats, and all other abominations of the RT-era ever existed, then the next thing you know, they put up Jokaero for pre-order.
GW, I am disappoint... No. That's too soft a word to describe the utter, crushing and complete loss of faith that the completely nonsensical elements of the GK release have brough about.
How aboot... "GW, I am disillusion, disgust, and... digest?"
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I just love the fact that a majority of people are whining about the fact that jokaero can be taken as an option in a Grey Knights codex and that it's not "fluffy".
Ever heard that they could take daemon hosts? And that they don't already have one but TWO models available?
Personally, I feel that it makes perfectly sense: - radical daemon-hunter ==> employs daemonhosts - radical witch-hunter ==> employs penitent psykers - radical xeno-hunter ==> employs jokaeros!
Come on people, GW has finally provided us with the opportunity to field Ordo Xenos units and all you do is whine?
Just take this mini for what it's worth: a bit of humor on GW part.
(What am I thinking? I'm actually trying to reason an internet mob! I must be mad! Mad I say!)
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2011/03/16 23:29:58
Subject: Re:Jokaero and Crowe up on Advanced Order
Jburch wrote:I dont know what to say...that space monkey abomination...
I am in awe of the stupidity
Agreed. Not only did it sound like a dumb idea in the first place, but the execution is terrible. They arent running so good with the GK stuff. PA and termies are good, SCs look decent...dreadknight needs help and that monkey is terrible.
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M'Kachen's Nemesis wrote:Personally, I feel that it makes perfectly sense:
- radical daemon-hunter ==> employs daemonhosts
- radical witch-hunter ==> employs penitent psykers
- radical xeno-hunter ==> employs jokaeros!
Come on people, GW has finally provided us with the opportunity to field Ordo Xenos units and all you do is whine?
(What am I thinking? I'm actually trying to reason an internet mob! I must be mad! Mad I say!)
Just to answer with reason:
It makes sense that a radical Ordo Xenos Inquisitor WANTS to tame a Jokaero, but fluff is quite explicit that he has more chances to train a Carnifex mount than a Jokaero
That said, I like the Jokaero model and the original concept (basically developped around the pun "digital weapons"), but not a Xeno army to cleanse the universe from Xenos.
I am thinking maybe I might have to make a diorama piece paying homage to "Every Which Way But Loose". All I would need is an Inq, Jaekero, a trukk and Ork Warbiker Mob!
Kroothawk wrote:
Just to answer with reason:
It makes sense that a radical Ordo Xenos Inquisitor WANTS to tame a Jokaero, but fluff is quite explicit that he has more chances to train a Carnifex mount than a Jokaero .
And no one seems to be claiming that they're taming a Jokaero, that's something you guys came up with yourselves. Maybe there's some sort of agreement for post battle pillaging between Ape and Inquisitor, as that seems to be the only reason by fluff that Jokaero are ever intentionally offensive(for parts for ships and equipment).
As it is currently, Jokaero fight for 2 reasons: scavenge for parts and if they're threatened. Maybe they found a way to make that work to their advantage without seeming like they're controlling the Jokaero.
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Platuan4th wrote:Maybe there's some sort of agreement for post battle pillaging between Ape and Inquisitor, as that seems to be the only reason by fluff that Jokaero are ever intentionally offensive(for parts for ships and equipment).
Except even that doesn't fit fluff. There's absolutely no way to communicate with them, so an agreement wouldn't be possible.
So they're still just there for the sake of "Here! Have some randomly inserted comic relief!"
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A Black Ram wrote:..perhaps now Hrud will appear too.
Do you really want 50+ threads complaining about them not being Space Skaven?
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