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Mr Nobody wrote:

Henners91 wrote:
Conformity is a lack of emotion, there's nothing for a warp entity to feed off of.
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Not so. Conformity is a very strong emotion, the emotional need to fit in, be a part of something.

I once had a Chinese friend tell me in China the desire for conformity and stability was felt as greater then the need for personal freedom. I don't know how true that is, but in the 40k universe it's certainly very true. It's virtually the Imperial credo.

We all suffer from a need to conform, to fit in. Even the greatest non-conformists suffer from it in some way (ever wonder how the disaffected grunge generation, to borrow a term, tends to listen to the same music, wear the same clothes, or go for the same haircuts. As an example is it really non-conformist to get a tatoo, dye your hair, or have piercings? Aren't you really just conforming to a perceived conception of non-conformance?).

Conformity is definitely not a lack or emotion. It is a fundamental thing in human nature.

I love this idea. I like the idea of a chaos god of fear, time etc.
No, I think omething like a highly converted nightbringer for a greater daemon, and the woman with sickle for a herald. Discuss.

Eh, I think the problem with using Time as a portfolio for a Chaos God is that Time... isn't Chaotic. It's a standardized, measured passage of a living being's perception of the events in its life occurring in what appears to be chronological order.

In Wh40k, people with the means (or circumstances) live to incredible ages because they spend a lot of time traveling through the Warp from one destination to another, in addition to medical miracles like rejuvenat and so on. While they may spend six months, a year, whatever in transit, time in the rest of the galaxy passes by at different rates (other than the concept of "meta-time") but that person does not age for however long they spend in the Warp. A Rogue Trader might see three centuries, all told, from the day of his birth to the current date, but since so much of his life is spent in warp transit, he's not *actually* 300 years old... his time spent in the Warp doesn't count, since time does not pass there.

I'm sure there's a better way to explain the concept, but I'm lacking the eloquence to figure it out. Basically, I think that the concept of time, or the human belief in its passage, is a rather alien thing to creatures of the Warp, as time does not pass for them in the sense we mean in this discussion.

Also I think aging is part of Nurgle's domain. What is aging other than slow decay? It's our body's inability to compensate any longer. at least that's how its been explained to me...
But I'm loving the ideas you guys are coming up with.
As for one of the previous posts saying that Chaos gods have no good aspects that is very much _not_ true. They're just not as prominent as in the grim darkness of the far future, those aspects don't see the light of day often. So while Slaanesh is lust and sensation, he's _all_ sensations. Good or bad. Nurgle is a god of life as well as death. he's the full circle of life. Tzeench is change, but not all change is bad. ect ect. But I would love to see a good chaos god. One who's bad @ssed like the others, but embodies more good things, while keeping with the whole package.

Hmmm... a god who is good to the point of insane cruelty? Like the old (real old! I'm talking 2000ad comics old) Judge Death method of solving crime. kill the criminal, and his family, and everyone he's ever talked to, and everyone they've ever met...

In the end you get a crime free society. But it's a society of corpses.

So an overzealously good chaos god could cause more havoc than the others, really...

Urien_Rakarth wrote:

I had this idea earlier, from a dream actually. How about some kind of hour glass with sand that forms peoples worst fears?

I think this would maybe be an awesome Psychic power, or weapon for the greater Daemon

Also, what kind of colors? When I think of time, I think dark teal and similar hues.

I was thinking more grey and gold, like the CSM from earlier.

P.S. You'll laugh at this What colour is teal?

I asked around, and tones of people agree with Tealy colours, so i'm all for it. We'de just have to be careful they're not to Alpha Legiony or Tzeenchy.

Teal!! Urgh, bleugh! Aw!! Just another good reason to wipe out the foul minions of Chaos.

Yuck.

htj wrote:Teal!! Urgh, bleugh! Aw!! Just another good reason to wipe out the foul minions of Chaos.

Yuck.

Mate, we're here to discuss something, not have the mickey taken. If you want to post a comment, post it in a decent way. Otherwise, go find another thread to laugh at and get a life.

Urien_Rakarth wrote:Mate, we're here to discuss something, not have the mickey taken. If you want to post a comment, post it in a decent way. Otherwise, go find another thread to laugh at and get a life.

Sorry, didn't mean to cause offence. Wasn't taking the mick, just really dislike teal. On a serious note, I'd weigh in for grey and gold. It'd be more distinct from Tzeentch and Slaanesh and somehow speaks more of the domain of the proposed god to me.

Peace?

sorry as well. Keep on topic, and originally, it was going to be Grey/Gold. I think we should put it up for vote, so you, myself, and a couple of users who have contributed can vote.


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These users should vote:

Urien_Rakarth
htj
Kasrkai
Mr.Nobody
DarknessEternal
Hawkward

Just majority will be the primary colours. Maybe we could combine them into one with black and teal primary and gold trims?

I'll keep a tally here:

Grey/Gold::1
Teal::::::::::
Mix::::::::::::1

I'll put my vote in for Grey and Gold.

Most of all, I like the colour difference from the pre-existing gods.

Should be kept darker colours as in theme with the exception of pink for slaanesh, but nobody wants baby blue CSM

Playing around on the Bolter and Chainsword CSM painter, and came up with this for a combination of the colours:

Oh forget it, uploading is evil, so just check my gallery

Hmm, I don't know. It looks good, but it looks like a Slaanesh or Tzeentch colour scheme. S'your call in the end though.

Well I was trying to encorporate both scemes, what's bad?

Computer virus had me down.
Anyhow, teal wasn't the best word, I kept the gray, and later I had and Idea.
They could look like regular Space Marines, just with a sprinkle of heresy.

Finally: There can be great chaos from obsessive order, and conformity could be a part of his realm.



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WAIT! Gray and Gold would pay homage to Dakka Dakka, would it not?
Everybody loves a good reference.

This, I like. Teal it is!

Urien_Rakarth wrote:Well I was trying to encorporate both scemes, what's bad?

It just speaks of Tzeentch too much to me I think. Doesn't differ enough from the already existing Chaos gods.

I like the grey and teal there from Kasrkai there. Keeps a similar feel, but is unique enough to step away from the big four.


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Kasrkai wrote:WAIT! Gray and Gold would pay homage to Dakka Dakka, would it not?
Everybody loves a good reference.

Hmm, the god would have to be called 'Modd' or some such then.

There's some unofficial fluff about Kaaleth, Fire God, which was created when Khârn became The Betrayer and was the cult for The Pyre legion. You can google it.

Kasrkai wrote:Computer virus had me down.
Anyhow, teal wasn't the best word, I kept the gray, and later I had and Idea.
They could look like regular Space Marines, just with a sprinkle of heresy.

Finally: There can be great chaos from obsessive order, and conformity could be a part of his realm.



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WAIT! Gray and Gold would pay homage to Dakka Dakka, would it not?
Everybody loves a good reference.

I think they don't look evil enough, and to Imperial. I think its a good idea, but the colours should be darker and definitely in CSM traditional armour.

the blue would need to be darker and greener...

There are seven chaos gods. The big four plus:

Malal: Chaos god of hating chaos gods.

Necoho: Chaos god of aethism/ unbelief

Zuvassin(spelled wrong?): Chaos god of chaos.

There could be infinite chaos gods, but it's unlikely GW will do that.

One computer wipe later:
Okay, not so imperial, but if the teal was more blue it would seen icky and Nurgle-y.

Sure. I came up with the idea of lots of black, with teal highlights, as so:
(see my last post)

Urien_Rakarth wrote:Sure. I came up with the idea of lots of black, with teal highlights, as so:

Broken...?

Broken...?

What do ya mean?

Urien_Rakarth wrote:

Broken...?

What do ya mean?

Your image isn't showing. Just a broken link.

Here:
(see attached)


It was abit different... but you get the idea!

I see.
What I was going for was something mysterious, but at the same time original and somewhat threatening.

Personaly I like the black, but I think the teal should have been darker and less of it. Maybe there should be more grey/bronze?