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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/14 19:52:20
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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Hulksmash wrote:
Don't read if you don't wanna know book stuff. Figured I'd put it out there
oh ya I had forgotten that part, it is such a tedious story arch though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/14 19:58:48
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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The Reeds and Osha have all been blended into the same character.
So, as long as nothing vital happens to Rickon (seeing as he won't be a POV character, I doubt anything will), he can accompany Bran, and no major changes are needed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/14 21:18:07
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
Perth/Glasgow
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but it's Jojen thats the Greenseer and as its stated earler they don't stick together.
TBH bran's story bored me to hell until book 5 after the storming of Winterfell. As does Arya's soon after Book 2
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/14 21:58:55
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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They made to many major changes to the original story for me to give a damn about the TV series anymore. From what I can gather they completely mauled the beginning of the Ygritte-Jon Snow storyline. Also, why are Robb and Jeyne getting so much screen time?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 00:14:33
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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well, its safe to say that after watching ep7 season 2, theon greyjoy is now my most hated character
still cant decide if the guy from the temple of the undieing is creepy or badass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 00:33:56
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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DPBellathrom wrote:well, its safe to say that after watching ep7 season 2, theon greyjoy is now my most hated character
still cant decide if the guy from the temple of the undieing is creepy or badass 
Well, if you have not read the books, then you really should not read my spoiler, but I am posting it anyway just to tease you
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 00:39:57
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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d-usa wrote:DPBellathrom wrote:well, its safe to say that after watching ep7 season 2, theon greyjoy is now my most hated character
still cant decide if the guy from the temple of the undieing is creepy or badass 
Well, if you have not read the books, then you really should not read my spoiler, but I am posting it anyway just to tease you
I kind of guesed* :3 still, I find his character disgusting that he could turn round and do what he's doing now
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 00:41:25
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Amaya wrote:Also, why are Robb and Jeyne getting so much screen time?
Its not Jeyne, they cut Jeyne's character and replaced her with a woman from Volantis.
DPBellathrom wrote:
still cant decide if the guy from the temple of the undieing is creepy or badass 
He definitely took a level in badass relative to the books.
DPBellathrom wrote:well, its safe to say that after watching ep7 season 2, theon greyjoy is now my most hated character 
Alfie Allen plays the character very well. He definitely isn't at all like I read Theon though, but in a good way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 00:45:53
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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DPBellathrom wrote:d-usa wrote:DPBellathrom wrote:well, its safe to say that after watching ep7 season 2, theon greyjoy is now my most hated character
still cant decide if the guy from the temple of the undieing is creepy or badass 
Well, if you have not read the books, then you really should not read my spoiler, but I am posting it anyway just to tease you
I kind of guesed* :3 still, I find his character disgusting that he could turn round and do what he's doing now
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 00:49:03
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
rainbow dashing to your side
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dogma wrote:Amaya wrote:Also, why are Robb and Jeyne getting so much screen time? Its not Jeyne, they cut Jeyne's character and replaced her with a woman from Volantis. DPBellathrom wrote: still cant decide if the guy from the temple of the undieing is creepy or badass  He definitely took a level in badass relative to the books. DPBellathrom wrote:well, its safe to say that after watching ep7 season 2, theon greyjoy is now my most hated character  Alfie Allen plays the character very well. He definitely isn't at all like I read Theon though, but in a good way. oh dont get me wrong, if "the one you love to hate" is what the actor was going for then he got it spot on, though he has kinda crazy eyes at time :3....but he caant help that. though its like how oscha keeps looking up....its annoying :/ I always imagined theon to be less cocky and more "strong" emotionally, like you said the actor does a good job but like I said, he seems too cocky
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 00:57:50
Subject: HBO - Game of Thrones
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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In the books Theon suffers a bit from being described rather than shown. Other characters always mention him as being arrogant and frivolous, but he's rarely shown as such prior to Kings in which he largely comes off as incompetent. Truthfully, I think the way he's played in the show makes the character more sympathetic as he seems to be compromised emotionally rather than simply stupid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 01:10:50
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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They seriously wrote out Jeyne Westerling completely and introduced a new character?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 02:13:11
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Amaya wrote:They seriously wrote out Jeyne Westerling completely and introduced a new character?
Yeah, Lady Talisa. My guess would be that they wanted to cut down the story, and the whole sequence at the Tooth really only served to introduce Jeyne. Its also one less battle scene to film, which keeps costs down.
That said, Talisa is very clearly filling Jeyne's role, so the story itself shouldn't be materially affected.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 03:55:24
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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It's just annoying and adds to my disinterest with the second season. First season was bloody awesome and kept the changes to a minimum.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 06:09:43
Subject: HBO - Game of Thrones
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Aye its got to the point where I think they are changing a little too much now..
Still good though, at the end of the day, were all big fantasy fans here, so its still one of the best shows on the TV regardless.
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No need for that, cut it out please.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 14:05:43
Subject: HBO - Game of Thrones
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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To be honest I rather like that they're changing things as it means I can't predict every little things that's going to happen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 19:07:20
Subject: HBO - Game of Thrones
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Evasive Pleasureseeker
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dogma wrote:To be honest I rather like that they're changing things as it means I can't predict every little things that's going to happen.
+1
Plus, this isn't a big budget movie type of production, so there's more constraints on just how many characters they can bring into the show, how many battles they can film and how many special effects they can get away with.
It's one thing if say New Line Cineama were financing the project, because then they could aford to be a bit more frivolous since they know they have projects 'X/Y/Z' which will make-up for some slight loses... HBO can't afford that however, shows have to make them money or the shows get axed.
Besides, half the crap that goes on in the book would just look plain awful & boring as feth on-screen! (ie: Ayra & Dany's entire plotline up until their final focus chapter or two)
Sure there's a few changes I'm not as thrilled with, (killing Silver, botching Jon/Ygrett's story & the early bit with Little Finger threatening one of his girls), but overall, the changes are making the story itself more enjoyable to watch on screen where you don't have the ability to provide 1-2 pages of immediate background info and/or the ability to bring in a super minor character to set things in motion.
Overall, GoT's is doing a much better job than the sheer butchery that befell the Harry Potter books  (the final movie was criminal in what it did!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 19:21:33
Subject: HBO - Game of Thrones
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Experiment 626 wrote:
Plus, this isn't a big budget movie type of production, so there's more constraints on just how many characters they can bring into the show, how many battles they can film and how many special effects they can get away with.
Yeah. In fact I recall one of the producers saying that they delayed the introduction of some characters because they couldn't afford to have the actors sitting around all season for what was really a small piece of face time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 19:54:59
Subject: HBO - Game of Thrones
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dogma wrote:To be honest I rather like that they're changing things as it means I can't predict every little things that's going to happen.
Yeah, that's true. Though episode 6's ending left me a bit dumbstruck as I honestly couldn't recall what happened in the books.
Stannis, however, has been a disappointment. Especially given how utterly... rigid he was in the books, what happened with him and Melisandre shouldn't have been explicit. It just seems to diminish the character's main trait.
Experiment 626 wrote:It's one thing if say New Line Cineama were financing the project, because then they could aford to be a bit more frivolous since they know they have projects 'X/Y/Z' which will make-up for some slight loses...
NLC actually bet a lot on Lord of the Rings. Had the project flopped, they would've been bankrupt.
Plus I now understand some of the comments from the people responsible for the GoT television series - about a lot riding on season 2. Not only because of the technical stuff (i.e. animations on the wolves and dragons could "make or break" the series for some viewers) but also because of them changing all this stuff would possibly alienate part of the fanbase.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 19:57:46
Subject: HBO - Game of Thrones
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Destrado wrote:
Yeah, that's true. Though episode 6's ending left me a bit dumbstruck as I honestly couldn't recall what happened in the books.
Stannis, however, has been a disappointment. Especially given how utterly... rigid he was in the books, what happened with him and Melisandre shouldn't have been explicit. It just seems to diminish the character's main trait.
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Neither should of the scenes between renly and Loras been so explicit it was avguely hinted at as well but HBo calls the shots and we don't
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 20:14:18
Subject: HBO - Game of Thrones
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Sinewy Scourge
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Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:Neither should of the scenes between renly and Loras been so explicit it was avguely hinted at as well but HBo calls the shots and we don't
If people quit watching the show, it's much more their loss than ours. We're giving them some of our free-time; they're spending money.
And the Loras/Renly scene didn't diminish their characters, it expanded on them. But then again, they could've just avoided that scene altogether, and just Margaret like they ended up doing. Her little speech made L/R's fifteen minutes of fame from the 1st series a completely unnecessary addition to the series.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/29 10:00:17
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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Well have to say the episode (7?) on last night was a blinder, really enjoyed it! Everything has come to a head, and I would say probably a good chunk of the show's budget went on that episode!
Really sad..
Quite amusing, can anyone spot a character from that show in the video below?
Don't know how to make the video go here, so this is a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jmIYyskDM8
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/29 10:14:17
Subject: HBO - Game of Thrones
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Haven't seen the second series yet, not sure if it's worth my time.
I got frustrated with the first series. It had promise, but was about 10 times as long as it should have been. You could have condensed it down into a couple of hours, and there were too many charectors. Also no actual indication of where the story is going, which as a viewer is kind of important.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/29 10:28:22
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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Pacific wrote:Well have to say the episode (7?) on last night was a blinder, really enjoyed it! Everything has come to a head, and I would say probably a good chunk of the show's budget went on that episode!
Really sad..
Quite amusing, can anyone spot a character from that show in the video below?
Don't know how to make the video go here, so this is a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jmIYyskDM8
I think it was episode 7.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/29 13:54:00
Subject: HBO - Game of Thrones
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Loras was there at the end, just before Tywinn walked in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/29 14:23:27
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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@joey
Really? I thought season 1 explained mostly where it was going off the bat. Let's see:
-The others (creature from episode 1) are back and a new war against them is brewing
-Dany (the pretty princess) is going to take back the seven kingdoms, likely with dragons
-Crazy internal fighting/civil war for the seven kingdoms until one of the above puts an end to it.
Seems more straight forward than most shows on TV honestly. It's just set for multiple season story arcs instead of the single season/maybe expand it to two seaons if we get picked up story arcs.
As for the characters thing be thankful the show is cutting it down/combining/eliminating characters left and right that aren't important. The books are ridiculous by the 3rd novel.
@Thread
And don't read unless you want to know the reason for the Kingsguard and Tyrion thing:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/29 14:33:32
Subject: Re:HBO - Game of Thrones
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Hulksmash wrote:@joey
Really? I thought season 1 explained mostly where it was going off the bat. Let's see:
-The others (creature from episode 1) are back and a new war against them is brewing
-Dany (the pretty princess) is going to take back the seven kingdoms, likely with dragons
-Crazy internal fighting/civil war for the seven kingdoms until one of the above puts an end to it.
Right, it took all of what, 10 hours, to explain that? That's far too long dude. Could cram that into a half hour program, or comfortably in an hour and a half.
I dread to think what the books are like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/29 14:42:19
Subject: HBO - Game of Thrones
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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@Joey
Wow, so if you know the relative destination the journey doesn't mean anything? I guess it saves time on reading books. You must be a part of that monster/incident of the week crowd that a lot of television shoots for.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/29 14:46:39
Subject: HBO - Game of Thrones
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Hulksmash wrote:@Joey
Wow, so if you know the relative destination the journey doesn't mean anything? I guess it saves time on reading books. You must be a part of that monster/incident of the week crowd that a lot of television shoots for.
Hmm, no.
When watching an episode of something, you need a reason to watch - a premise, a progression, and a sense of change. GOT, as far as I can tell, omitted the latter of these two entirely. Developments only serve to beg further questions, like Lost but with tits and violence.
Not to mention that all the charectors, without exception, are despicable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/29 15:11:36
Subject: HBO - Game of Thrones
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Joey wrote:Hulksmash wrote:@Joey
Wow, so if you know the relative destination the journey doesn't mean anything? I guess it saves time on reading books. You must be a part of that monster/incident of the week crowd that a lot of television shoots for.
Hmm, no.
When watching an episode of something, you need a reason to watch - a premise, a progression, and a sense of change. GOT, as far as I can tell, omitted the latter of these two entirely. Developments only serve to beg further questions, like Lost but with tits and violence.
Not to mention that all the charectors, without exception, are despicable.
you mean killing the king and sending the realms into war wasn't a big enough sense of change? and I think you meant to say all the characters are human. not two dimensional cookie cutter people. If you read through all the books you can see how all the characters grow and develop, or get their heads chopped off
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