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I really want to see a chaos interpretation of this guy done.

warboss wrote:

Fetterkey wrote:As it stands, the rules are a little mediocre (par for the course with FW), but the model is amazing. Another hit from FW, who have been on a roll in general lately. I just wish they'd make a resin combi-weapons kit, as this would both fill a gap in the product line and be awesome in its own right.

An armor 13 dread with venerable stats and fleet as well as a 5+ invul for shooting is meh? FW doesn't have to come up with experimental broken rules like for the Achilles every time. Just giving vanilla marines an ironclad dread armor chassis with standard dread shooty weapons options and Death Company Dread movement (via fleet) and Space Wolf Bjorn-esque force field is plenty.

Yeah, but it's priced high enough to make up for it, especially since you don't get Extra Armor. I love Dreadnoughts as much as the next guy (I have 8, including 3 Forge World Ironclads), but I definitely don't think I would field one of these.

That looks like the old epic scale dread.

That was already pointed out... along with a pic.

insaniak wrote:That was already pointed out... along with a pic.

Like 3 times, at that...

Mad4Minis wrote:

monkeyh wrote:
I'm just glad I live in good old Blighty - £45 sound alot better than $75! (I know it's all the same - but phsycologically you know what I mean)

Yeah I hear that...sadly keeps me from ordering many things from England. I see the price and think "hey thats not bad", then realize "dammit thats pounds not dollars", which leads to "that means double the listed price, no thanks". Some things are worth it (like this new dread) but sadly many just arent.

Exactly....why does the American dollar have to suck so much, there are so many FW models I want that the cost of shipping alone would be more than the model. I wish GW could establish a FW supplyer in the US.

Edit: Reading fail

Also edit: never mind then

Platuan4th wrote:

insaniak wrote:That was already pointed out... along with a pic.

Like 3 times, at that...

Not with epic scale marines for size. Holy crap with arms that thing is $75 before shipping!

I think it lacks a little detail, i am dissapointed in the lack of gubbins on it.

Imperial tech has never been so sexy.

Spartan089 wrote:Exactly....why does the American dollar have to suck so much, there are so many FW models I want that the cost of shipping alone would be more than the model. I wish GW could establish a FW supplyer in the US.

Even if they did that doesn't mean they would be any cheaper. If anything I'd expect a price hike for the "added convenience".

Lovely looking model; really great. Almost as good looking as the standard dread for me.

More importantly however, I'm left wondering about the Chaos rules and what that suggests?
A - Chaos Model & Rules
B - Chaos featured in IA book
C - Chaos Codex - surely not!

Just Dave wrote:Lovely looking model; really great. Almost as good looking as the standard dread for me.

More importantly however, I'm left wondering about the Chaos rules and what that suggests?
A - Chaos Model & Rules
B - Chaos featured in IA book
C - Chaos Codex - surely not!

FW has already said that they're planning another Chaos IA set for Tzeentch and Slaanesh.

If those DCCW arms are available separately, I can see converters using them on normal Dreads to make Furiosos.

The height (looks about 1cm taller than a standard Dread, judging by the FW photo) seems an odd choice, as surely many players would like to use one to count-as a standard Dread, but doing so will lead to shrill nerd-rage LoS arguments, especially during tournies. Using one to count-as a DreadKnight seems simpler - as a previous poster pointed out, stick it on a scenic base that brings it up to DK height.

Breotan wrote:Quick! Someone buy one and put those legs on a standard dread body. I want to see if it makes the current dread look any better.

This! I actually like the boxy washing machine look (as long as its one of the designs that has the little marine head cutout like this one does), but I hate the legs. I'm thinkin a combo of the two would look great!

Clang wrote:If those DCCW arms are available separately,

They are. It's just like FW's other Dreads: buy a body and at least 2 arms as 3 separate items.

I wonder if the new choas dread will also harken back to the old days too?

Andrew1975 wrote:I wonder if the new choas dread will also harken back to the old days too?

Gods, I hope so.

I just wish GW would do more to distinguish chaos... that would be a good thing.

*rubbing his trousers in early 90's glee at a long awaited mid 90's Epic design made real in 40k scale*

Now all that FW needs to do is make some of the turtle-backed MKI. terminators. Then the pre-heresy possibilities would be endless...

I always liked that old chaos dread, but space crusade never really sold in America so i couldn't get one. Ive looked them up on ebay and thought the prices were obscene, but they are a lot cheaper than forge world.

Clang wrote:The height (looks about 1cm taller than a standard Dread, judging by the FW photo) seems an odd choice, as surely many players would like to use one to count-as a standard Dread, but doing so will lead to shrill nerd-rage LoS arguments, especially during tournies.

Going by the comparison picture they have up, while the top of the torso looks to be significantly taller than a regular Dreadnought, there's really very little difference in the height of the weapons.

And since LOS is taken from the weapons instead of the torso, using one of these in place of a regular dreadnought benefits your opponent, since it will be easier to draw LOS to the model, with much less improvement to LOS from it.

insaniak wrote:That was already pointed out... along with a pic.

In all fairness, the second pic makes it much easier to see what's going on.

And, oooohhh man, if they come out with that Chaos dread, I'm on that like misalignment on Finecast. I am such a sucker for chicken-legged mechs. I can't explain it, but always have been - Marauder IIc, Catapult, Vulture, Uziel, Mad Cat, all of them. I'd have to get whatever special character allows more Dreads.

insaniak wrote:

Jadenim wrote:I've never understood why they call Terminator armour that, because other than being as tough as nails they look nothing like dreadnoughts. But now they do. Or did. Or something.

I believe it's simply down to them originally being designed essentially as 'mini-dreadnoughts' for close-in fighting where regular Dreadnoughts wouldn't fit.

Terminator armor was designed during the dark age of tech as reactor repair/space suits. It had no combat applications until the emperor retrofitted them much later to be heavy armor for spaceship boarding actions. Most ancient supertech in the imperium is toaster level stuff from when humanity was dominating known space and blowing out stars when they were in the way.

Platuan4th wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Reminds me of Gundam Mobile Suit Z'Gok:

Anal retention time:

That's a Z'gok E, not a Z'gok.

This is a Z'gok:

Hah, good show old boy, too bad I wasn't around to catch that before you did.

insaniak wrote:

Jadenim wrote:I've never understood why they call Terminator armour that, because other than being as tough as nails they look nothing like dreadnoughts. But now they do. Or did. Or something.

I believe it's simply down to them originally being designed essentially as 'mini-dreadnoughts' for close-in fighting where regular Dreadnoughts wouldn't fit.

I think he meant aestheticaly. Terminators of any design look nothing like current dreadnoughts. However this new design does have certain visual links to terminators both classic and modern.

Platuan4th wrote:

Just Dave wrote:Lovely looking model; really great. Almost as good looking as the standard dread for me.

More importantly however, I'm left wondering about the Chaos rules and what that suggests?
A - Chaos Model & Rules
B - Chaos featured in IA book
C - Chaos Codex - surely not!

FW has already said that they're planning another Chaos IA set for Tzeentch and Slaanesh.

I wish it was hinting at a new codex, for tournaments chaos players are stuck with some crazy team killing nutjob in a box for a dreadnought.

I guess i might be the first one to say it, i the torso looks just like the one on the Fulgim horus heresy book cover

ShumaGorath wrote:...It had no combat applications until the emperor retrofitted them much later to be heavy armor for spaceship boarding actions.

...which would have been when it was labelled as 'Tactical Dreadnought Armour'...

carabine wrote:I think he meant aestheticaly. Terminators of any design look nothing like current dreadnoughts. However this new design does have certain visual links to terminators both classic and modern.

The aesthetics have little to do with the name. Although there was a mention somewhere that Terminator armour incorporates some armour plating from Dreadnoughts, which is another link.

It's also possibly worth pointing out that the original Dreadnoughts weren't permanent coffins... they were just a big battlesuit, that the driver could get into and out of. Essentially, just bigger Terminators, if somewhat differently designed.


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Cyvash wrote:I guess i might be the first one to say it, i the torso looks just like the one on the Fulgim horus heresy book cover

The Dreadnought on that book is the same style as is used throughout the Horus Heresy artwork. So yes, that link has already been mentioned...