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Slarg232 wrote:

ph34r wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:I would like to say the Lascannon/Plasma Cannon are problems.

Lascannon is a long range gun, akin to a sniper rifle. Yet it just doesn't kill someone in a hit to the head. In a beam.

Plasma Cannon, however, has a blast, kills Feel No Pain and Iron Halo on miss hits (for me, might be lag) and has enough ammo to be a serios problem, especially with certain perks.

Also, add one to Final Vengeance; getting kills for dying is, has been, and always will be, a stupid idea. I could see if it was "Kill Five People to power up a Farewell Gift", but being able to just fly in and die, getting a triple kill in the process, is just stupid.

A Lascannon hit to the head kills in one hit, I am fairly certain.

Hasn't been for me.... Maybe they are using Rule Shenanigans and taking their armor saves.....



Also, GUESS WHAT GUYS! I'm the Black and White Space Marine!

TK 421?

Hmmm.... What if it just allowed you to take a third perk?

As in, each loadout slot has a "Terminator Honor" slot, where you put in a third perk which is only available when your a Termy?

Soladrin wrote:Heavy flamer... Assault cannon...

Now those would be fun to use




But Ive been dealing with 2 problems mainly. I seem to be shot through walls/terrain by anything really. I know the lascannon is supposed to be able to do that in some thigns, but Ive found being killed through a wall more by stormbolters and the like. Thats a bit annoying to me.

And there was a few times, Ive hit someone 3 times with a lascannon and it still didnt kill them. Is there something Im missing? As I just started playing yesterday, but Ive been KO'ed super quick by lascannon shots so something obviously isnt translating here lol

The problem is likely Latancy on account of P2P, which makes the game horrendous some times. and yes, those would be fun toys :3

KingCracker wrote:

Soladrin wrote:Heavy flamer... Assault cannon...

Now those would be fun to use




But Ive been dealing with 2 problems mainly. I seem to be shot through walls/terrain by anything really. I know the lascannon is supposed to be able to do that in some thigns, but Ive found being killed through a wall more by stormbolters and the like. Thats a bit annoying to me.

And there was a few times, Ive hit someone 3 times with a lascannon and it still didnt kill them. Is there something Im missing? As I just started playing yesterday, but Ive been KO'ed super quick by lascannon shots so something obviously isnt translating here lol

Getting shot through walls is most likely lag/ hit detection.

Yeah, getting shot through walls is lag. And for the lascannon, 3 shots in the chest with a feel no pain/iron halo dev might not put him down. A headshot will.

ok, so I started playing space marine today, but I can't get any online games. First a box opens saying that my NAT isn't open, so I may not be able to access certain games.

Then the game goes on to find something like 19 matches and 19 possible matches.

The possible matches count goes down to around 5 and then everything freezes.

I found this on the internet: http://www.ps3trophies.com/forums/warhammer-40-000-space-marine/68183-warhammer-40k-space-marine-multiplayer-problems.html

Has anybody else experienced this problem? (I couldn't find anything through the five SM threads on here)

If youre PS3, theyre having some problems with servers or something. Itll be fixed soon.
Im starting to actually get annoyed at plasma cannon spam and everyone using thunderhammers.

Jollydevil wrote:If youre PS3, theyre having some problems with servers or something. Itll be fixed soon.
Im starting to actually get annoyed at plasma cannon spam and everyone using thunderhammers.

Ok yeah, thanks. I am on PS3, and I'm just glad its not a problem coming from me. How long does it usually take to get in a game when it works?

Lord Rogukiel wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:If youre PS3, theyre having some problems with servers or something. Itll be fixed soon.
Im starting to actually get annoyed at plasma cannon spam and everyone using thunderhammers.

Ok yeah, thanks. I am on PS3, and I'm just glad its not a problem coming from me. How long does it usually take to get in a game when it works?

Tbh im not sure, since im on xbox. You should maybe shoot someone on ps3 here a pm about it or something, hopefully thatll answer your questions.

Thunder hammers are no problem, slow as crap, just gotta be nimble.

If there's anything I could dislike, the OP nature of the plasma cannon and the crappy lag/p2p issues, other than that its a damn win

Brother Heinrich wrote:Thunder hammers are no problem, slow as crap, just gotta be nimble.

If there's anything I could dislike, the OP nature of the plasma cannon and the crappy lag/p2p issues, other than that its a damn win

At the time i was raging when i said that. I still hate plasma cannons though.
And power swords. God i hate those things.

Jollydevil wrote:

Brother Heinrich wrote:Thunder hammers are no problem, slow as crap, just gotta be nimble.

If there's anything I could dislike, the OP nature of the plasma cannon and the crappy lag/p2p issues, other than that its a damn win

At the time i was raging when i said that. I still hate plasma cannons though.
And power swords. God i hate those things.

I love power swords, same stats as chainsword, but I think it has more range....not sure though.

bombboy1252 wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:

Brother Heinrich wrote:Thunder hammers are no problem, slow as crap, just gotta be nimble.

If there's anything I could dislike, the OP nature of the plasma cannon and the crappy lag/p2p issues, other than that its a damn win

At the time i was raging when i said that. I still hate plasma cannons though.
And power swords. God i hate those things.

I love power swords, same stats as chainsword, but I think it has more range....not sure though.

Power Swords stats should have the power of the power axe and speed of the chainsword.

Feth Plasma Cannons.
The Lascannon is justified because it is a tank-hunting weapon, so people are no problem.
Lag is a huge issue in a game where swordplay is involved.
The Stalker Bolter is a little silly.
The Blind Grenades are really silly.
The Melta-Gun is supposed to be silly.
Terminator Armour would be silly.
A flamer would be cool but silly.
Scouts would be really cool, but really squishy. and silly.

I summed up most of the questions I have seen about Space Marine.
EDIT: Spellchecks

bombboy1252 wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:

Brother Heinrich wrote:Thunder hammers are no problem, slow as crap, just gotta be nimble.

If there's anything I could dislike, the OP nature of the plasma cannon and the crappy lag/p2p issues, other than that its a damn win

At the time i was raging when i said that. I still hate plasma cannons though.
And power swords. God i hate those things.

I love power swords, same stats as chainsword, but I think it has more range....not sure though.

Power sword kills in 2 hits AND has the speed of a chainsword. I can deal with THQ trying to give bonuses to those who bought killteam, but seriously, giving them the best cc weapon in the game, able to beat anything really, especially with its added range (which ive noticed too) is rediculous.

Jollydevil wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:

Brother Heinrich wrote:Thunder hammers are no problem, slow as crap, just gotta be nimble.

If there's anything I could dislike, the OP nature of the plasma cannon and the crappy lag/p2p issues, other than that its a damn win

At the time i was raging when i said that. I still hate plasma cannons though.
And power swords. God i hate those things.

I love power swords, same stats as chainsword, but I think it has more range....not sure though.

Power sword kills in 2 hits AND has the speed of a chainsword. I can deal with THQ trying to give bonuses to those who bought killteam, but seriously, giving them the best cc weapon in the game, able to beat anything really, especially with its added range (which ive noticed too) is rediculous.

I was under the impression both the Chainsword and Power Sword were exactly the same, apart from the skin.

MrH wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:

Brother Heinrich wrote:Thunder hammers are no problem, slow as crap, just gotta be nimble.

If there's anything I could dislike, the OP nature of the plasma cannon and the crappy lag/p2p issues, other than that its a damn win

At the time i was raging when i said that. I still hate plasma cannons though.
And power swords. God i hate those things.

I love power swords, same stats as chainsword, but I think it has more range....not sure though.

Power sword kills in 2 hits AND has the speed of a chainsword. I can deal with THQ trying to give bonuses to those who bought killteam, but seriously, giving them the best cc weapon in the game, able to beat anything really, especially with its added range (which ive noticed too) is rediculous.

I was under the impression both the Chainsword and Power Sword were exactly the same, apart from the skin.

Nope, power sword has the speed of a chainsword and 1 less power than the thunder hammer. Maybe 2 less.

So, it says they have the same stats, but they LIE! I tend to do better with powersword than the chainsword so it makes sense I suppose.

Lord Rogukiel wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:If youre PS3, theyre having some problems with servers or something. Itll be fixed soon.
Im starting to actually get annoyed at plasma cannon spam and everyone using thunderhammers.

Ok yeah, thanks. I am on PS3, and I'm just glad its not a problem coming from me. How long does it usually take to get in a game when it works?

Ive been getting games regularly and my NAT is closed, but it tells me the same thing about NAT everytime. Also I wait about 5 minutes, sometimes less, once in a great while, longer. But if you turn it on and just go on the net to look at emails or something, itll come on.





And agreed, the hammers are stong, but they are like swinging a tree. I actually got away from an assault marine last night as a devastator, and he was wielding one,I just kept dodging when I knew he was coming down, and Id run , after about 10 seconds of this cat and mouse, team member shot him down


Plasma cannons OTOH, annoy me. It seems like everyone jjust charges it and I get splashed to death no matter how inaccurate they are

PS3 Users:

Yesterday there was a software update for your PS3. Get it. Install it. Then start SM and get the new patch. Install that. All of the lobby and join-game issues are fixed. Got into several games within 30 seconds or less. HUZZAAH!

Anyone who thinks vinal vengeance is a problem must really suck. It makes a distinct beeping and gives you like 5 seconds to easily rolll/fly out of range.

My beef is with plasma cannons, takes no fething skill almost one shot kills you without even a direct hit.

Moltar wrote:PS3 Users:

Yesterday there was a software update for your PS3. Get it. Install it. Then start SM and get the new patch. Install that. All of the lobby and join-game issues are fixed. Got into several games within 30 seconds or less. HUZZAAH!

Agreed! I crapped my pants at how fast it logged. Totally took me by surprise. Explains the problems I had yesterday right before the patch was released. I tried playing a game, and trough many attempts I wasted about 40 minutes trying to log on. Patch totally made up for that


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Kazerkinelite wrote:Anyone who thinks vinal vengeance is a problem must really suck. It makes a distinct beeping and gives you like 5 seconds to easily rolll/fly out of range.

My beef is with plasma cannons, takes no fething skill almost one shot kills you without even a direct hit.

Ugh I agree completely on both points. If I die from a final vengeance its my fault

Plasma cannons OTOH, seriously piss me off, for the very reason you mention. It takes ZERO skill to charge it up, and splash damage an area to death. The part that pisses me off the most, is those guys will go towards an objective that 3 of your team is taking, 1 shot the charge into kindda the area, and ALL 3 ARE DEAD! I hate how that weapon is currently. Its the only weapon I think needs a serious nerf and fast. I havnt even used mine yet because I just cant bring myself to do that to others.

KingCracker wrote:


Ugh I agree completely on both points. If I die from a final vengeance its my fault

Plasma cannons OTOH, seriously piss me off, for the very reason you mention. It takes ZERO skill to charge it up, and splash damage an area to death. The part that pisses me off the most, is those guys will go towards an objective that 3 of your team is taking, 1 shot the charge into kindda the area, and ALL 3 ARE DEAD! I hate how that weapon is currently. Its the only weapon I think needs a serious nerf and fast. I havnt even used mine yet because I just cant bring myself to do that to others.

Plasma Cannons crack me up. Skill Needed - None; Comedic Gold that ensues - Tons!

A guy with a plasma cannon is an easy target for most. Yes, he can wreck all with one charged blast, but if he keeps that up he'll be running around with his tiny bolt pistol looking for ammo in no time. It doesn't have a lot of ammo.... at all. Is it a little over powered? Probably. But only a little. Up close, it's not that useful or will kill the dude wielding it. I also don't feel like you see too many of them running around in the games. Usually I'm the guy laughing 'til I cry carrying it around dying more often than killing. KingCracker, you need to bust the Plasma Cannon out just for laughs.

I do agree with Final Vengeance, though. I don't think it's that unfair, by any means. If you kill an assault/raptor immediately roll/jump away. Make it a habbit and you'll never get killed by it. Is it cheap? Yeah. But, don't let that discourage you. If you're good enough at avoiding it (which isn't THAT hard) you'll start to look at it how I do. Its a waste of a perk.

I have actually pulled the plasma cannon out. In a match I finally said ok fine, the other team was spamming assault marines like CRAZY! They were swarming our spawn point, so I thought "Well....THAT has a big ol FU shot on it" and so I charged it and off I went. When I poked out, there were 5 of them killing some poor lvl 4 dude, so I blasted the shot, the ones facing me saw me coming and 2 took off right away, 1 took alot of splash but didnt die (I could tell it hurt because he was hoofing it as fast as possible AWAY from me lol) the 2 that didnt see me, were toast. So then I charged the other shot up, just in time for the assault marines to come down on me, so what did I do? Shot my feet It felt great blwing them all to bits, but I still hate the weapon.




ON TOPIC THOUGH

I saw something the other day that stumped me, and Im pretty sure it was a cheat. I was going up against a fella with a storm bolter, and we shot it out, he didnt seem THAT good as he kept missing me and wasnt trying to roll or anything but he still killed me, even though I got the first couple shots in and was bang on target with my stormbolter. When I die, I have a habit of looking at what the person used to kill me with, and oddly enough, he had FNP AND kraken bolts for his storm bolter........ anyone have something similar happen before? I almost killed him that time, and during the game, killed him many times afterwards, I just found his loadout to be incredibly....not possible.

Wait what? Tac's don't even get FNP, not to mention kraken bolts on stormbolter..

Exactly my point. Like I said, I always look to see what someone used to kill me, and I found it odd that even though I came up from behind, and hosed him down with lead first, he still turned, and opened up on me and killed me. So curious, I looked at what he used, and saw both those perks....and thought "but he was a tactical, and used a stormbolter"

*shrugs* glitch?