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**aka_mythos**

I imagine those would probably work best as squadrons represented by a single clix-stand with the "squadron" of models.

**Platuan4th**

aka_mythos wrote:I imagine those would probably work best as squadrons represented by a single clix-stand with the "squadron" of models.

Agreed. Kinda like Elementals and Infantry from Dark Ages.

**Guardlard01**

This made my day!

**LazzurusMan**

Would it be feasible to use these and make up your own game system based around something like Gothic?

Just wondering as i love the models, but don't like the idea of a simplified pace combat game :/

**Platuan4th**

LazzurusMan wrote:Would it be feasible to use these and make up your own game system based around something like Gothic?

Just wondering as i love the models, but don't like the idea of a simplified pace combat game :/

Rebase them for use in SFB.

**LazzurusMan**

How confusing is SFB first? And it looks really old... :/

**Platuan4th**

LazzurusMan wrote:How confusing is SFB first? And it looks really old... :/

It's pretty confusing when you're first getting into it due to how in depth it is, but as with all games, it grows easier.

However, I find BFG isn't a good system for Trek due to the low amount of weapons on ships and how shields work in universe.

**Balance**

LazzurusMan wrote:How confusing is SFB first? And it looks really old... :/

Star Fleet Battles deserves awards for how well organized and clear the rules are.

However, I personally don't find them fun. SFB has players go through a complex provess for each ship each turn: Ships allocate power to various systems, move in impusles that split up phases, etc.

It's interesting for it's depth and well-written... but I have no interest in playing it. A lot of games (BFG, ACTA, etc.) use some sort of abstractions for 'special orders' to achieve similar depth with faster play. SFB laughs at this crude, childish behavior!

**Mad4Minis**

aka_mythos wrote:
This game has the advantage of being able to draw from the "future" timeline or the actual future as later series and movies showed it. On one hand you have Valdore, Sovereign, and Negh'Var and on the other the Future Enterprise, future Fek'lhr, and and probably a hypothetical future Valdore or something like it. Given the more free form nature of Heroclix, they'll probably have both sets.

...Random thought for ship variants, but I think it'd be appropriate for their to be both a Voyager and a Voyager with borg tech. Also the Nova class is also shown in Voyager with a "future" refit... when Captain LaForge has his cameo.

Now it would be great if they did that, Im all for variants, especially if its a proper model and not just a relabeled base. One very cool thing to see would be models for the damaged Enterprise and Reliant from Wrath of Khan. Maybe make it a nice little 2 ship set, with special rules for battle in the nebula.

Khan: THERE SHE IS!!...not so damaged as we would be led to believe...

Spock: Captain, she can still outrun and outgun us...

**aka_mythos**

Mad4Minis wrote:
Now it would be great if they did that, Im all for variants, especially if its a proper model and not just a relabeled base. One very cool thing to see would be models for the damaged Enterprise and Reliant from Wrath of Khan. Maybe make it a nice little 2 ship set, with special rules for battle in the nebula.

Khan: THERE SHE IS!!...not so damaged as we would be led to believe...

Spock: Captain, she can still outrun and outgun us...

At that point, they'd pretty much have to give the Enterprise one of the heroclix flight stands.
Spock: His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking.

**Mad4Minis**

Balance wrote:
LazzurusMan wrote:How confusing is SFB first? And it looks really old... :/

Star Fleet Battles deserves awards for how well organized and clear the rules are.

However, I personally don't find them fun. SFB has players go through a complex provess for each ship each turn: Ships allocate power to various systems, move in impusles that split up phases, etc.

It's interesting for it's depth and well-written... but I have no interest in playing it. A lot of games (BFG, ACTA, etc.) use some sort of abstractions for 'special orders' to achieve similar depth with faster play. SFB laughs at this crude, childish behavior!

Good summary. Heres my addition...32 "impulses" per turn. That means there are 32 steps in each turn. Per ship. Its an awesomly detailed simulation, but Ill have to agree that "fun" doesnt show up often during a game.