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Joey wrote:

Vaktathi wrote:

The only way that chimeras are "overpowered" is if you take them at every possibly opportunity, which virtually no one has the money or willpower to do.

>_>
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(don't look at my sig)

Dude those tanks/APCs are awesome! Lovely colour scheme too, you don't see enough relaxed colour schemes around.


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Blacksails wrote:
I'm still at a loss for you starting this thread if you have no clue what is OP and what is not. I'm not a competitive player either by nature, but I know what a good list and codex is and what is not. You claim IG are not OP and back this up by plugging your ears and screaming "LALALALALA", then back it up further by stating you aren't a competitive player. It really makes no sense.

If you were a competitive player, and played against competitive IG lists, you'd understand why they are a top tier army.

Because there's a spectrum between a 7 year old dribbling on a space marine, and someone who's entered thousands of tournaments. I play seriously, and I play to win, but that doesn't mean I'm interested in some objective notion of a single "competative army list".

But where are you on the spectrum? Are you even on the spectrum?!

Dude...I AM the spectrum.

Joey wrote:Dude...I AM the spectrum.

Quick! Someone give me an internet meme while I run away from this confusion!

Vaktathi wrote:

Joey wrote:
IIRC death korps chimeras CAN take autocannons, I read that in a ForgeWorld thread though so could be BS.

IA:1 rules allow chimeras to take autocannons, the Death Korps don't have chimeras at all.

Centaurs! I absolutely love them... just had to say.

Or you could say something spontanious and witty?
Not everything has to be post-modern, yaknow.

I thought that was spontaneous, although asking me to be witty is pushing it a bit far and as for 'post-modern'...erh, where did that come from old chap?

many of these "memes" are random interjections of human expression, the rancid ejaculate of the lowest of the "internet classes", with no refence to culture or history or anything other than the meme itself. IMO.


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well I have a meeting at the jobcentre early tomorrow so looks like i'm off. nighty night

The Guard is not OP, reason because they have so many troops and vehicles are because they have no super powers, no magic of any kind and no mystical technology - they are ordinary men and woman defending Mankind from certain doom.
So what if they can bring 26 vehicles into the list? My friend who play Orks said that vehicles are not problem at all. But then again it's al up to the individual. In my opinion Creed is OP because of his tactical genius rule ( being able to infiltrate SQUADRONS of vehicles or even Titan is just to much OP to me ).

Brother Coa wrote:The Guard is not OP, reason because they have so many troops and vehicles are because they have no super powers, no magic of any kind and no mystical technology - they are ordinary men and woman defending Mankind from certain doom.
So what if they can bring 26 vehicles into the list? My friend who play Orks said that vehicles are not problem at all. But then again it's al up to the individual. In my opinion Creed is OP because of his tactical genius rule ( being able to infiltrate SQUADRONS of vehicles or even Titan is just to much OP to me ).

So they can't have access to squads of psykers that can drop S10 pieplates and reduce any squads ld ship to Ld1?

Horst wrote:For the love of god, don't even get me started on psyker battle squads.

Boom, leadership 1.

Do 1 wound from a barrage weapon.

HAVE FUN PASSING THAT LEADERSHIP TEST LOLOLOLOL

That's what they're there for...

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So they can't have access to squads of psykers that can drop S10 pieplates and reduce any squads ld ship to Ld1?

The Imperial Guard has no unit with capabilities matching that description.


They can however throw S9 pieplates, and min Ld is 2

Vaktathi wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So they can't have access to squads of psykers that can drop S10 pieplates and reduce any squads ld ship to Ld1?

The Imperial Guard has no unit with capabilities matching that description.


They can however throw S9 pieplates, and min Ld is 2

Really? Isn't a +1S for every psyker in the squad, with the max squad size being 10?

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Vaktathi wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So they can't have access to squads of psykers that can drop S10 pieplates and reduce any squads ld ship to Ld1?

The Imperial Guard has no unit with capabilities matching that description.


They can however throw S9 pieplates, and min Ld is 2

Really? Isn't a +1S for every psyker in the squad, with the max squad size being 10?

You are thinking of GK's.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Vaktathi wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So they can't have access to squads of psykers that can drop S10 pieplates and reduce any squads ld ship to Ld1?

The Imperial Guard has no unit with capabilities matching that description.


They can however throw S9 pieplates, and min Ld is 2

Really? Isn't a +1S for every psyker in the squad, with the max squad size being 10?

there is always 1 non-psyker Overseer.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Vaktathi wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So they can't have access to squads of psykers that can drop S10 pieplates and reduce any squads ld ship to Ld1?

The Imperial Guard has no unit with capabilities matching that description.


They can however throw S9 pieplates, and min Ld is 2

Really? Isn't a +1S for every psyker in the squad, with the max squad size being 10?

Your mixing 2 codex here.

All I know is, when that codex landed in my sweaty hands, I did a jig of delight.

I'm thinking that I'm about to do another one Saturday when Necrons lands there

I have I think, at last count - 9/10 Leman Russ chassis, 6/7 Chimera's and 3 Basilisks.

Need to work on my converting skills to get some Manticores and AA fire hehehe

Soulstorms strength is equal to the number of psykers in the Battle Squad (up to 9 + 1 non-psyker Overseer). Weaken Resolve reduces a units leadership by the number of psykers in the Battle Squad to a minimum, as said in the IG Codex, of 2 for the remainder of that turn.

So, I just informed my friend about Marbo's demolition charge. Did someone mention that it has no chance to scatter? If so, why is this? I thought all blast weapons could scatter, or something.

Tangent wrote:So, I just informed my friend about Marbo's demolition charge. Did someone mention that it has no chance to scatter? If so, why is this? I thought all blast weapons could scatter, or something.

It can scatter.

Tangent wrote:So, I just informed my friend about Marbo's demolition charge. Did someone mention that it has no chance to scatter? If so, why is this? I thought all blast weapons could scatter, or something.

It can scatter, just between a >50% chance to land directly on target and an ~88% chance to still hit the original model with scatter, he doesn't scatter much.

Can Marbo hit himself with it?

Tangent wrote:Can Marbo hit himself with it?

Yes. Yes he can.

In fact I once played against an IG army where that happened. He survived though :(

Excellent. I hope I see this happen a lot! My friend's Marbo is about to get much more efficient, I think...

From Personal experience Manticores are overrated. THey just do not hit what they are aiming for all that often....

Vendettas are great except they are bullet magnets and do not stand up to concentrated fire. If you do not get the first turn your options have been narrowed dramatically.....no scout move vendetta Mechvet spam rush for you....now you keep them in back looking for a tank to bust....

Hydras.....dont own any so i wouldnt know how they are OP.....St7 weapons are not OP in any sense....

Dogface 76 wrote:Hydras.....dont own any so i wouldnt know how they are OP.....St7 weapons are not OP in any sense....

when you get 4 twin linked shots at 72" range, which ignore flat out and turbo boosting cover saves for skimmers/bikes, for only 75 points... Those S7 weapons become a wee bit too powerful. The points cost is just too low for something that good.

Having used Marbo in a game for the first time to wipe out an entire unit of Death Company...for a 65 point model. Lol. I'd like to thank this thread for enlightening me.