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I love the new mini's and as long as the rules are not game breaking like they said im fine with it. but if they make anything bigger i would be sad as i think right now they have reached the maximum size the games needs to be. that said more smaller units and stuff like that would be great as choices are awesome.

I'm not entirely sure they CAN make anything much bigger, or it'll be covering an entire table quarter.

Look at their waist and try to come back with the tiny legs stupidity comment...

It's better then the scale of the waist on every warjack in that game. They're better proportioned than almost the entire field of comparison.

Clearly, what we need now is eKarchev, wearing a Conquest.

The giant robot lover in me loves these. And really, I guess that's why I like warmachine in the first place.

I'm assuming they will be plastic or resin. When the Behemoth first came out, we used to joke that the table would bend a little every time you put the Behemoth on it. If these things were metal, the table would crack straight in half!

ashrog wrote:The giant robot lover in me loves these. And really, I guess that's why I like warmachine in the first place.

I'm assuming they will be plastic or resin. When the Behemoth first came out, we used to joke that the table would bend a little every time you put the Behemoth on it. If these things were metal, the table would crack straight in half!

Yep, PP's confirmed that they'll be a mix of resin and white metal parts. Mostly resin, I'm sure.

Clearly, what we need now is eKarchev, wearing a Conquest.

Clearly, that's not epic enough for eKarchev. He'll have to wear a pair of them, duct taped together.

Laughing Man wrote:
Clearly, that's not epic enough for eKarchev. He'll have to wear a pair of them, duct taped together.

This is the Iron Kingdoms, they'll be riveted together of course!

Ah, the potential Unbound silliness - one human Merc Warcaster alongside two Faction warcasters, where the army is just eight or nine Colossals (split between the Merc and Faction Colossals) could be highly amusing...

Laughing Man wrote:

Clearly, what we need now is eKarchev, wearing a Conquest.

Clearly, that's not epic enough for eKarchev. He'll have to wear a pair of them, duct taped together.

I am to understand that he rides them, like roller-skates.

When are these due out? Ive watched the video, but have no speakers on my computer at the moment, so I cant hear what the PP guys say.

Mad4Minis wrote:When are these due out? Ive watched the video, but have no speakers on my computer at the moment, so I cant hear what the PP guys say.

June 2012.

Dysartes wrote:Ah, the potential Unbound silliness - one human Merc Warcaster alongside two Faction warcasters, where the army is just six Renegades and six or seven Colossals (split between the Merc and Faction Colossals) could be highly amusing...

Fixed that for you.

spiralingcadaver wrote:

Dysartes wrote:Ah, the potential Unbound silliness - one human Merc Warcaster alongside two Faction warcasters, where the army is just six Renegades and six or seven Colossals (split between the Merc and Faction Colossals) could be highly amusing...

Fixed that for you.

Depends on which Faction you decde to run - I was thinking Merc/Cygnar, possibly with eNemo, eCaine and Ashlynn or MACBAIN...

Throw in the Squire for eNemo, Reinholdt for eCaine and Sylas for MacBain, of course, and run eCaine in full SuperSolo mode.

Yes, but Vlad, Karchev, and Magnus. Battlegroups from hell plus supersolo.

Someone said about price comparssion on how GW would make PP go to shame if the priced the Collossus minis.

All I can say is if GW made a mini like this, how much do you think they would be selling it for? I am sure a $100 PP minis would cost about $175- $200. So while PP is getting up there with very expensive Minis, I am sure GW equivalent is just as much more expensive.

I dont play much Warmachine I have one box set and I have one box set of Hordes but After seeing this I am gong to have to get a colossal model, and it makes me wonder doese this mean that the Hordes game is going to get Colossal sised creatures?

I'mm getting REAL broke this summer...

I'll get the Cygnar, Khadorian, Merc, AngryElf(tm) and Cryx colossii and it shall be a building and converting frenzy during my holidays like there was no tomorrow!

Davor wrote:Someone said about price comparssion on how GW would make PP go to shame if the priced the Collossus minis.

All I can say is if GW made a mini like this, how much do you think they would be selling it for? I am sure a $100 PP minis would cost about $175- $200. So while PP is getting up there with very expensive Minis, I am sure GW equivalent is just as much more expensive.

If GW made a mini like this, it would be in plastic. So just look at the Baneblade or Stompa (each 61.5 pounds) and compare them to the Battle Engines (60 pounds) and you tell me which company is cheaper.

AlexHolker wrote:

Davor wrote:Someone said about price comparssion on how GW would make PP go to shame if the priced the Collossus minis.

All I can say is if GW made a mini like this, how much do you think they would be selling it for? I am sure a $100 PP minis would cost about $175- $200. So while PP is getting up there with very expensive Minis, I am sure GW equivalent is just as much more expensive.

If GW made a mini like this, it would be in plastic. So just look at the Baneblade or Stompa (each 61.5 pounds) and compare them to the Battle Engines (60 pounds) and you tell me which company is cheaper.

*cough*

They look cool thats for sure...don't really seeing them change much of how the game is played which is a good thing.

Although putting stealth on one of them is going to be hilarious...

Laughing Man wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:

Davor wrote:Someone said about price comparssion on how GW would make PP go to shame if the priced the Collossus minis.

All I can say is if GW made a mini like this, how much do you think they would be selling it for? I am sure a $100 PP minis would cost about $175- $200. So while PP is getting up there with very expensive Minis, I am sure GW equivalent is just as much more expensive.

If GW made a mini like this, it would be in plastic. So just look at the Baneblade or Stompa (each 61.5 pounds) and compare them to the Battle Engines (60 pounds) and you tell me which company is cheaper.

*cough*

Please don't feed the trolls, they have special handlers for that...

Laughing Man wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:

Davor wrote:Someone said about price comparssion on how GW would make PP go to shame if the priced the Collossus minis.

All I can say is if GW made a mini like this, how much do you think they would be selling it for? I am sure a $100 PP minis would cost about $175- $200. So while PP is getting up there with very expensive Minis, I am sure GW equivalent is just as much more expensive.

If GW made a mini like this, it would be in plastic. So just look at the Baneblade or Stompa (each 61.5 pounds) and compare them to the Battle Engines (60 pounds) and you tell me which company is cheaper.

*cough*

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1800005

My argument is the same as always.... the Warmachine model will almost certainly be more expensive than a GW equivalent model, but it will be a better value in terms of dollars spent to impact on the tabletop/points ratio.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Laughing Man wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:

Davor wrote:Someone said about price comparssion on how GW would make PP go to shame if the priced the Collossus minis.

All I can say is if GW made a mini like this, how much do you think they would be selling it for? I am sure a $100 PP minis would cost about $175- $200. So while PP is getting up there with very expensive Minis, I am sure GW equivalent is just as much more expensive.

If GW made a mini like this, it would be in plastic. So just look at the Baneblade or Stompa (each 61.5 pounds) and compare them to the Battle Engines (60 pounds) and you tell me which company is cheaper.

*cough*

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1800005

Which, interestingly enough, would be smaller than the Colossals if Privateer's metric (Conquest being wider than a Throne is tall) is right, as the Stompa is only 7 inches wide and the Throne's a good ten inches tall.

How dare Privateer Press release bigger more expensive giant robot models that won't be overpowered and that won't automatically win games.

Why on Earth would a miniature games company do something like that? It just makes no sense. It would be like Matt Wilson sitting down and saying, "I want to make a game with giant steam powered robots."

Let’s not bring up the GW versus PP stuff again. Let’s not feed the trolls either.

In regards to the topic, it’s good to see PP branching out with the Colossals. It’s such a simple idea that I’m surprised they never did it sooner. Personally I think the move to Colossals is more of a case of PP trying to come up with a different type of unit to keep things fresh rather than some sort of secret underhanded push to make players play higher points games. Considering larger points games have been fairing very well with the fan base, adding more rules, units and support makes sense IMO.

I wonder if Collosals will count as a Warjacks as far as caster warjack points are concerned. If so than I expect to see some pretty cheesy pGoreshade lists for 20-35pt games.

Lastly, it’s also awesome to see PP continuing to provide sneak peaks and it is indeed much better than “GW’s rumour crap”.

candy.man wrote:
I wonder if Collosals will count as a Warjacks as far as caster warjack points are concerned. If so than I expect to see some pretty cheesy pGoreshade lists for 20-35pt games.

Yes. They are a part of the battlegroup.

Laughing Man wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Laughing Man wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:

Davor wrote:Someone said about price comparssion on how GW would make PP go to shame if the priced the Collossus minis.

All I can say is if GW made a mini like this, how much do you think they would be selling it for? I am sure a $100 PP minis would cost about $175- $200. So while PP is getting up there with very expensive Minis, I am sure GW equivalent is just as much more expensive.

If GW made a mini like this, it would be in plastic. So just look at the Baneblade or Stompa (each 61.5 pounds) and compare them to the Battle Engines (60 pounds) and you tell me which company is cheaper.

*cough*

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1800005

Which, interestingly enough, would be smaller than the Colossals if Privateer's metric (Conquest being wider than a Throne is tall) is right, as the Stompa is only 7 inches wide and the Throne's a good ten inches tall.

The scale in the pictures suggests otherwise.

solkan wrote:How dare Privateer Press release bigger more expensive giant robot models that won't be overpowered and that won't automatically win games.

To be fair, we don't know if that will actually be true or not. I'm not gonna believe whatever crap they say in the video and wait for the actual rules to come out before saying they'll be perfectly fair and balanced. (Personally though I don't think they will be.)

And I'm calling bs on the comparisons being made here. From the scale shots in the video I don't think these things are going to be anywhere near titan-sized. I have a warjack on my desk right now and I really don't see how you're coming to the conclusion that an Ork stompa is smaller than a PP colossal is going to be judging from the photos. If anything it'll be about the same height as a dreadknight, probably slightly taller and obviously bulkier, but if you're expecting warhound-sized models you're going to be disappointed.

Some thoughts:

If these are metal/resin hybrids, I imagine the price point will be between $95-110 USD. I'm hoping for the lower end of that scale, because I really do want a Conquest.

I haven't seen much indication of PP *pushing* for larger point games - 50 points seems to be the "norm" currently. And I have to say, I've never really seen a Warmachine player decline to play smaller points level games with new players - we've had occasional new players at our FLGS, and someone is always willing to play some 15- or 25- point games to teach the rules.

I think PP knows what they're doing with these colossals, and I'm excited for the new expansion.