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spiralingcadaver wrote:I'm not sure what to think about them.

On one hand, I've got to admit, they're pretty awesome and, assuming solid rules, waay more tempting than the Battle Engines (which were a mixed bag, with some seriously cool ones, and some serious misses.

On the other hand, it seems like they're stomping all over their existing fluff.

Specifically

the Behemoth is one-of-a-kind because it was too impractical to make more, so why is this giant thing here?

I thought it was along the same lines for the Thunderhead being unique.

Mulg is the biggest troll ever, etc. So what happened? A bigger one popped up?

Also, since when do Mercs have the resources for that craziness?

Just sayin', I'm having trouble figuring out how it will work in the setting.

That's one of the primary problems with having active fluff in a game of this kind. The evolving nature of an expanding miniatures game makes almost any claim of a unique trait (such as size or advancement) destined to be invalidated.

spiralingcadaver wrote:

On the other hand, it seems like they're stomping all over their existing fluff.

Specifically

the Behemoth is one-of-a-kind because it was too impractical to make more, so why is this giant thing here?

I thought it was along the same lines for the Thunderhead being unique.

Remember that the storyline in Warmachine actively progresses. The Iron Kingdoms and the Hordes factions are increasingly at each others throats as war manufacturing ramps up to meet demands. Ideas for why the Khador and Cygnar Colossi are possible where the Behemoth and Thunderhead are Character 'jacks may be the fact that it's easier to mount advanced systems on larger chassis than it is to try and down-size them for smaller warjacks. And, of course, these won't be the only releases for each faction in the Colossus expansion. We may very well see more electricity-powered Cygnar jacks and more Khadoran jacks resembling the Behemoth.

Also: IKRPG? You will be mine. I already play Cryx, so I won't even have to worry about buying models for enemies!

I think I still have the original IKRPG books (somewhere), but I'll probably end up with the new ones. The Monsternomicon is still my favorite "Monster Manual" for D&D. I especially loved the "lore" aspect for each enemy.

infinite_array wrote:

spiralingcadaver wrote:

On the other hand, it seems like they're stomping all over their existing fluff.

Specifically

the Behemoth is one-of-a-kind because it was too impractical to make more, so why is this giant thing here?

I thought it was along the same lines for the Thunderhead being unique.

Remember that the storyline in Warmachine actively progresses. The Iron Kingdoms and the Hordes factions are increasingly at each others throats as war manufacturing ramps up to meet demands. Ideas for why the Khador and Cygnar Colossi are possible where the Behemoth and Thunderhead are Character 'jacks may be the fact that it's easier to mount advanced systems on larger chassis than it is to try and down-size them for smaller warjacks.

Shouldn't that make those character jacks no longer unique, then? Presumably, if you're able to build bigger and more complex warjacks, you should also be able to make more of those...

Wow, that looks pretty cool. Unless for some insane reason they only cost £40-50. Then I won't be getting one. I like small games.

spiralingcadaver wrote:
Shouldn't that make those character jacks no longer unique, then? Presumably, if you're able to build bigger and more complex warjacks, you should also be able to make more of those...

Hmm... good point.

Well, the background shows that 'Character' warnouns often have a personality of their own, and of course their own imprints with certain caster's.

Of course, now I'm just drawing at straws. I'm just going to wait until the book comes out, or we get an actual explanation from PP, and until then I'll just appreciate the new shiny gubbins.

Character 'jacks have personalities burned into their cortexes
which could be said to be essential to the nature of their
respective 'jacks. So maybe only Thorn can make efficient
use out of an arcantrik relay. Or the Behemoth can manage
armor piercing fists and double bombards.

Well, well, well. Nice!

Never before have I seen a Warmachine mini that I genuinely liked (not that I have seen many mind) but this looks cool. I look forward to seeing what price they come out at.

Happy Squeal!

Giant Robots are their own justification.

"I stomp, therefore I am".

My initial reaction was 'OMG! OMG! OMG!'


After some consideration, however, my reaction is 'OMG! OMG! OMG!'


These look sweet. Post-Adepticon, the Warmachine minis are definitely moving to the top of the 'to be painted' pile.

Most accidentally relevant old comic EVER:



Taken from Anything But Real Life (quite a nice webcomic, one of my daily reads!).

Wow, not to go off topic, gut those characters' proportions are really distractingly strange...

These are definitely the best Warmachine models I've seen thus far. Still not enough to get me into the game, but I like the way Privateer is heading with things such as this.

Privateer Press announces War Room. An iOS and Android app for WARMACHINE and HORDES. http://goo.gl/DChWW


Now, *that* I'm excited about!!

Valete,

JohnS

malfred wrote:Character 'jacks have personalities burned into their cortexes
which could be said to be essential to the nature of their
respective 'jacks. So maybe only Thorn can make efficient
use out of an arcantrik relay. Or the Behemoth can manage
armor piercing fists and double bombards.

But Big B and the Thunderhead are only character Jacks due to their complexity of construction, rather than being a unique "personality" like the Deathjack (and even that, legends speak of more than one) or Drago. Seeing as they upgraded the Warjacks of Reknown from Escalation in MK1 to "normal" Jacks in a way in MK2 (same went for the Alpha Warbeasts in Hordes) I fully see both Big B and the Thunderhead becoming FA2.

Admittedly it does cheapen Big B's schtick a little, but so long as Armour Piercing still works on them I can confidently scrap those Colossi in 1 turn with him.

As for the Trollbloods and Mulg, maybe Mulg is the only intelligent huge Troll, maybe their Colossal is a little "Derpy" and needs to be goaded into battle. Who knows? Also this paves the way nicely for the massive Woldnoun from the Monsternomicon whose name escapes me right now...

cygnnus wrote:Privateer Press announces War Room. An iOS and Android app for WARMACHINE and HORDES. http://goo.gl/DChWW


Now, *that* I'm excited about!!

Valete,

JohnS

Lil late, see my post on page one

cygnnus wrote:Privateer Press announces War Room. An iOS and Android app for WARMACHINE and HORDES. http://goo.gl/DChWW


Now, *that* I'm excited about!!

Valete,

JohnS

Yeah, but I've already bought
1-prime
2-the minis' rulebooks
3-the minis
4-the updated cards
5-the updated cards
6-prime1.5
7-prime 2
8-the updated cards
9-prime 2 (mini)

...so I'm really not in the mood to buy another thing which will give me the same information, slightly updated, again :/

....But... I.... They...

*sighs and pulls out wallet*

When can I have one?

Ooooooooh Dang... now I will be spending another $100 + at Lock n Load this year. Oh well at least I have time to save and not stress about it. Dang they are nice.

spiralingcadaver wrote:Also, since when do Mercs have the resources for that craziness?

From what I could see of that illustration, it looked like Magnus was leading the way with Galleon coming in from behind.

My guess, Galleon will be a great match up with Magnus OR Magus will be the one who had it built.

I've done some scale measurements for Khador based on the base being 120mm:

about 160mm tall
200mm wide on the arms
80mm wide on the hips/ legs

If this comes in somewhere around £65-£70 I will get one of the Khador ones. Any more and I'd have to think hard on it.

I wish we could see the book's cover a little more clearly. They usually have 2-3 new things on the cover that aren't the big new models.

Why do I get the feeling battle engines was the beta test before they figured on launching these?

Alfndrate wrote:

cygnnus wrote:Privateer Press announces War Room. An iOS and Android app for WARMACHINE and HORDES. http://goo.gl/DChWW


Now, *that* I'm excited about!!

Valete,

JohnS

Lil late, see my post on page one

Wasn't trying to say "I saw it first", just didn't have a good way yo cut the quote on my phone. The statement of fact is still valid though. I am excited about the possibility of using my iPhone/iPad for the game. I don't really care for the diddly marking on the cards if there's an option.

Considering the moderate cost, I really like the idea!

Valete,

JohnS

I will not, well let me stop lying I will buy one. I like how PP is slow ramping up their models to larger scale for larger battles.

The Khador gave me sudden flashbacks of the old Revell Robotech Defenders kits I use to put together as kid. Those were f'ing awesome... must resist...

At work so couldn't watch the video. How will these guys figure into current games? Will the point values have to go up to and limit this to larger games or are these going to be showing up in any game. Know that battle wagons, while cool were not necessarily a required or desired unit, do you get the feeling these will?

Have stayed out of WM/H for a while, but these are calling to me.

I won't have any money or time for a long time.

Kurgash wrote:Why do I get the feeling battle engines was the beta test before they figured on launching these?

How so?

Battle Engines aren't warjacks and aren't part of battlegroups.

Holy crap... I have never been tempted by PP models before now... epic! Now that is how to gratify your customers... Great job to their team!