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Ascalam wrote:Vendettas are rather underpriced

If they were more expensive, there would be no point in fielding Elysians.

I don't understand the knee-jerk hatred of the Achilles. Sure, it's fairly difficult to kill, but for 300+ points (it's more than 300 base cost), that's about all you get.

It's got a 25 point gun (thunderfire cannon cost) that rarely gets used, so people can't actually think it's that awesome. It is not an assault vehicle, and it can't hold terminators, so not a great use as a transport.

So all it can do is contest objectives. Hot dog. For 300+ points, so can a lot of other things.

It's also got two Twin Linked BS4 Multi-meltas and PotMS, and the TFC has some killer range on it.

It's 325pts of area denial, that's twice as hard to kill against most weapons that can penetrate AV14 (due to the -1 for all penetrating damage results), and can still hold a scoring unit while packing some fearsome firepower that's difficult to neutralize. Stick one on a flank and you own it, sit it on an objective with a minimum sized scoring unit and many lists won't be able to push it off.

Not as bad as its original rules, it's fieldable now somewhat, but it's one of FW's few units that I feel reflect poor game design choices.

It's a unit that's difficult to cost correctly as it's still just a normal vehicle and not a superheavy, but many armies and lists will have an easier time engaging a Baneblade than a Land Raider Achilles.

Mr Hyena wrote:

Ascalam wrote:Vendettas are rather underpriced

If they were more expensive, there would be no point in fielding Elysians.

They are still undercosted, and there is no point in fielding Elysians (ducks )


I'm cool with Elysians actually, though i prefer the Tallarns I just couldn't pass up a straight line like that