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Looks like the Raider update is next.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nmCjcwESC70

Can't wait, Raider is my fav class bar none.

Ew, you play this?

I LOVE this, I'm completely fed up with the current fad of extremely slow shooters. I'm a UT2k4 player at heart so seeing a new game with some speed going excites me to no end.

I'm used to playing Instagib CTF on 1.2 speed settings in UT so playing BF3 and the like is like playing in slowmotion. (and that's why I play them on console).

I always thought you a console guy was all.

Technicians > Raiders, by the way.

I played this game at a friends house the other day. It reminds me a bit of Halo but the learning curve is MUCH harsher. Especially if you are up against experienced players.... Still fun though...

Well, since I only play Raider and Doombringer...I have to buy this.

Plasma Gun is fething sweet, I always love Plasma Guns in any game.

Cluster Grenade is essentially a smaller MIRV projectile, so that looks very powerful for flag stand clearing and...pretty much everything.

The NJT-5 or whatever looks like gak. So a Plasma Gun that shoots smaller projectiles with a different skin? That's pretty fething low of them.

Skins look pretty cool, don't know which one I'll get yet.

MrDwhitey wrote:I always thought you a console guy was all.

Technicians > Raiders, by the way.

you clearly didn't watch the video lol. After the inf update, and now this raider update... GL being a technician.

Disarray wrote:Looks like the Raider update is next.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nmCjcwESC70

Nooooo!

Bastards took my plasma gun and gave it to Mediums!

Yeah... they took my bomber and gave it to gak all.

Strange too, because the base defenses are actually somewhat threatening now.

Hm. I might actually even play as raider with the plasmagun.

I can't stand it normally.

/squints.

What? It's true, I can't. I play mostly infiltrator and brute, with the occasional technician.

Love the plasmagun, though everyones using it right now. The new SMG isn't that great though, I prefer the higher fire rate of the original.

Cluster grenades can't compete with EMP's either. So in the end I think the only useful item in this bundle is the plasmagun.

Offcourse, I'm not at any competitive level of play yet in this game so I could be getting this completely wrong.

Oh, btw Arena is fething aweful, all you get is soldiers spamming fully upgraded AP grenades. On the London server anyway. Once they run out of grenades they either die because they can't actually aim for gak, or they fly to the nearest ammo station and start a new bombing run. It's just so dull.

I just can't understand why you would play like this. You don't get any better at the game, you still get a worse K/D then any player who can actually aim. And more importantly, your going to be straight up garbage in the game mode that actually matters, CTF.

Anyway, I feel kind of lonely playing this game and I'd love to get a TS2/Ventrilo or whatever server up and start playing with you guys. I have no clue how the lag is for me when playing on a USA server, might try that out later tonight.

So anyway, if anyone wants to get some games in with me, just add Soladrin.

Ive been mostly playing jug.
Just cant get into bruto, ive never seen one do anything but spam fractals

Yeah, brutes are the most underpowered class at the moment, none of their weapons really shine at anything in particular.

Brutes are good at two things in particular with their heavy spinfusor-- direct fire bombardment (destroying base structures with far less setup and calculation than the jugg) and killing everything indoors.

Well yeah, but a raider does a much better job without the loss of mobility (IMO).

He does less per hit and is less survivable, with a grenade that's less useful, and he has to do it at shorter range. Granted, his secondary is more useful and the new grenade is definitely better... I have to wonder waht they'll do to Brute whenever the time comes.

Less per hit, but have you seen the fire rate on the grenade launcher? And the plasma gun is even better, clipsize of 10, 500 damage, straight shots.

EMP grenades out perform clusters though, cluster are far to inaccurate IMO.

There's still the range issue.

But I agree that the Brutes are underpowered, just saying they have their uses. Destroying base turrets, sensors, and bombarding the flag base from often halfway across the map is a big one, and it's what I've used it for. Jugg can do that as well, but they're slower and take longer to set up and make sure your shots hit properly, compared to the simpler aim and fire heavy spinfusor. People really underestimate just how far you can hit an enemy from with the heavy spinfusor... using the hills that the towers are on as fire bases in Katabatic, for example, you can hit the enemy's base quite easily.

Grenade Launcher is still, hands down, the better flag stand clearing weapon and indoor fighting weapon.

Plasma Gun is obviously the best dueling weapon, but I fear that the projectile size will definitely be nerfed. It just seems too easy to get Air-Mails with it.

I'm pretty damn good with any weapon when it comes to anticipation and range-gauging, but I just think its too easy to get 10+ Air Mails every game.

It's ridiculously easy to get air mails with the JAckal too, but I don't think they've nerfed that yet...

Melissia wrote:It's ridiculously easy to get air mails with the JAckal too, but I don't think they've nerfed that yet...

Hm?

Damaged caused by early in-air detonation of Infiltrator's Jackal rounds reduced by 50%. Knockback from in-air detonation also decreased by 50%.
Damage against armored targets with Infiltrator's Jackal rounds increased 20% (Fixed an issue where full damage was not being applied).
Fixed an issue where the sticky explosives from the Infiltrator's Jackal could not be destroyed with bullet based weapons.

Huh, never noticed that.

Melissia wrote:Brutes are good at two things in particular with their heavy spinfusor-- direct fire bombardment (destroying base structures with far less setup and calculation than the jugg) and killing everything indoors.

Well with enough practice, there's no need to setup with the jug, but you do need to be closer.

I've been playing him alot, and am up to at least ~50% accuracy at immobile things, and 10-25% on mobile people. I'm hoping eventually morts become the proper counter to /something/ like tribes 1 where you couldn't really take out turrets or tribes 2 where mobile bases you sort of needed them.

So I keep hearing about this, from you guys and work, so I'm downloading it now. Anything I NEED to know before jumping into a match?

You need to practice skiing and hitting things with non-hitscan weapons. The tutorial is good for that.

Skiing?

Would saying the Ripjack is one of my favorite weapons help me at all?