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But..but...but what about the machine spirit!? :-| Don't tell the mechanicum. They may excrete saline solution from their visual receptor ducts.

It's more that he isn't quite dancing around the house, squeeing and bouncing off the walls with excitement over an IG RPG.

When BC was announced, that was a different matter

I'm not a RPG guy so I don't really know much about these FFG RPGs.. but, would this also be like a "sourcebook" kind of thing for IG? or is it just a big rulebook with a little fluff thrown in? Like is it worth buying just because you're an IG fan, even if you know you'll never ever play the RPG?

These RPGs do usually have quite a bit of good fluff for the topics they're on, yes.

Sourcebook with a "lot" of fluff thrown in

There needs to be, quite a number of people don't play 40k but play 40k rpg, so FFG don't assume everyone's read or has access to the codex.

For the best, the current codex is a poor representation of what the Imperial Guard is all about.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

BrookM wrote:Anyway, back on topic, Baneblades might a bit too overkill, but a Leman Russ sounds like fun.

Who says either are in the book?

They both better be!!!

I still wish FFG had a set of rules that worked seamlessly for all systems, but, so much for that water under the bridge!

I would be surprised if LRBT were not well represented in the rules. In fact, when I run the game if the party ends up having some mechanized element I think I will treat that in a similar method to DW power armor, or even ships from RT. Asuming the game mechanic is not already in place.


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Also, given how much equipment the guard have, what do people think the first supplement will be? An adventure, or more equipment/career book? Maybe a detailed regiments book?

The equipment book better be called the Munitorum Manual or something like that.

BrookM wrote:The equipment book better be called the Munitorum Manual or something like that.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Imperial-Munitorum-Manual-Warhammer/dp/1844165027 We already have a Munitorum manual

Tibbsy wrote:

BrookM wrote:The equipment book better be called the Munitorum Manual or something like that.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Imperial-Munitorum-Manual-Warhammer/dp/1844165027 We already have a Munitorum manual

Duly noted, mine didn't cost well over seventy quid thankfully.

BrookM wrote:

Tibbsy wrote:

BrookM wrote:The equipment book better be called the Munitorum Manual or something like that.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Imperial-Munitorum-Manual-Warhammer/dp/1844165027 We already have a Munitorum manual

Duly noted, mine didn't cost well over seventy quid thankfully.

Feth I didn't even notice the price , I just knew one had been released and that was the first link from a Google search

Tibbsy wrote:

BrookM wrote:

Tibbsy wrote:

BrookM wrote:The equipment book better be called the Munitorum Manual or something like that.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Imperial-Munitorum-Manual-Warhammer/dp/1844165027 We already have a Munitorum manual

Duly noted, mine didn't cost well over seventy quid thankfully.

Feth I didn't even notice the price , I just knew one had been released and that was the first link from a Google search

It's a fun booklet to have and a great companion piece for either copy of the Uplifting Primer. Shame that those greedy witches have to ruin it for others again though.

But will it contain advice to a Guardsman on what to do if vented to space?
On topic, some of the preview artwork has potentially sold it to me even if I never play an RPG. The piece that shows what I presume to be Mordians charging from the Chimera looks ace.

I still wish FFG had a set of rules that worked seamlessly for all systems, but, so much for that water under the bridge!

If wishes were horses...(then I'd have more than I already do :s must stop getting horses) but remember that they inherited that rule set and were locked into using it until BC.

....which is why a lot of BC's rules are so much better >.<

Johnny-Crass wrote:Everyone starts out with 25 characters..... One of them is bound to make it through the first mission

It's cthuhlu- like in its simplicity.... I like it.


Now now...... I can see playing a group of Last Chancers, lead by lee marvin.... er Col. Shafer.


That rogue squad running through that firezone in that little shore story in deathwing, only to find that they need to keep going at the end of it.


Playing a squad of First and Only's....

Commissar Duties await hmmmm.... the fun to be had.


then the little dity of being a rogue squad of survivors dropped on Angelis. fighting over scrap and building better buggies....


I really like the idea of this book. does this mean that all of these books are interchangeable?

Chaos take thier souls!!!!!


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Necros wrote:I'm not a RPG guy so I don't really know much about these FFG RPGs.. but, would this also be like a "sourcebook" kind of thing for IG? or is it just a big rulebook with a little fluff thrown in? Like is it worth buying just because you're an IG fan, even if you know you'll never ever play the RPG?

Oh yes....



Mine read like a sourcebook with some rules thrown in for laughs of the books I have.

Where's the R come in at for this RPG?

Since when do guardsmen have anything resembling a life of their own or choice in what they do?

DarknessEternal wrote:Where's the R come in at for this RPG?

Since when do guardsmen have anything resembling a life of their own or choice in what they do?

Read a BL novel about them, we'll talk later.

BrookM wrote:Read a BL novel about them, we'll talk later.

Feel free to point out one that doesn't involve them being in a warzone or traveling to one.

Where's the R come in at for this RPG?

Since when do guardsmen have anything resembling a life of their own or choice in what they do?

You mean like Space Marines go off and do what they wants and aren't constantly acting under another's orders, or like DH characters aren't doing what an inquisitor wants, or beginning level D&D characters aren't hired by the local authorities to go rescue the princess, or L5R characters aren't under the orders of their Daimyo or....

Lotsa games you don't get a choice about what you do or don't do and they're still fantastic roleplaying. Others, it's up to you to make the plot and decide what you're going to do. Which is also fantastic roleplaying. There are games out there that focus on the combatants. The roleplaying is up to you. If you don't think you are capable or bringing personality and life to a jarhead (and obviously haven't watched Starship Troopers, read any IG novels or seen any war movies) then don't. Go play something else.

Personally, I have always really like playing a stock standard combat character. Not because I like to hit and shoot enemies, gimme loot and xp, but by doing that, then I can focus more on the characters' quirks and personality. That's just me.

screw playing a standard guardsman, Im gonna be playing the Tech priest. My Dark Heresy Character can now see front line combat! (GM always prefered sneaky sneaky roles )

On Female Guard:

Being a female fan of the 40k world, I find it can at times be an isolating experience. I won't get into why but I did overhear story of a friend quoting an employee at one of my favourite GW workshops, saying 'I don't like women in the store because it 'distracted from the hobby.'

I haven't been back there since but I can't say it won't keep me from the store forever... (I'm pretty sure I know which employee it was - he was never very nice to me).

That said - I have noticed some of the faces of the IG looking quite unisex, and I try to give these faces a bit of a lighter look in the hope that it makes them a bit more feminine. One GW employee was examining my miniatures, and noted "this one looks female!" I guess it's sort of working...

In terms of this game in general: I'm quite excited about this game... I'm not sure if the idea is that we simply play a squad, or if we play the HQ of a squad - and assume the roles of Sergeants, Commanders, Commissars, and so on. Maybe the system allows for both - which would be a cool option in and of itself. In any case, the fluff and art alone should be great... I hope.

Cheers,
K

Commissar Stein, with all due respect, you ought to go with some friends who also play and make that misogynist as uncomfortable as possible , maybe then he will walk out as he so deserves.

I would like personally to see more female wargamers/RPG'ers as they bring unique perspectives to both sets of games.

Besides, have you ever seen a guy try and RP a female? so much fail there!

DarknessEternal wrote:

BrookM wrote:Read a BL novel about them, we'll talk later.

Feel free to point out one that doesn't involve them being in a warzone or traveling to one.

Not sure if.. Ah forget it.

Commissar Stein wrote:I'm not sure if the idea is that we simply play a squad, or if we play the HQ of a squad - and assume the roles of Sergeants, Commanders, Commissars, and so on. Maybe the system allows for both - which would be a cool option in and of itself. In any case, the fluff and art alone should be great... I hope.

Just to clear this question up - Only War is still very much a traditional RPG in the sense that you have a character - singular - who represents 'you' (so to speak) within the game. Yes, OW has squad-based elements simply due to the context of the game (it is about the Guard after all), but you don't play a squad, as you put it. You still have one guy (or gal!) that is your character.

I like to think that the GM is the CO or Commissar going "Let's go cannonfodder, we need to take that patch of mud, preferably before lunch."

Seriously though, I'm more and more looking forward to this one, especially if you get the option to start off as a white shield or the like (cog boy, orphan, altar boy, whatever) and grow over the course of several campaigns into something more, be it veteran, tank ace or whatever they've got in store for us.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Commissar Stein wrote:I'm not sure if the idea is that we simply play a squad, or if we play the HQ of a squad - and assume the roles of Sergeants, Commanders, Commissars, and so on. Maybe the system allows for both - which would be a cool option in and of itself. In any case, the fluff and art alone should be great... I hope.

Just to clear this question up - Only War is still very much a traditional RPG in the sense that you have a character - singular - who represents 'you' (so to speak) within the game. Yes, OW has squad-based elements simply due to the context of the game (it is about the Guard after all), but you don't play a squad, as you put it. You still have one guy (or gal!) that is your character.

Ah! See how type-o's get you into trouble. I meant to write "in a squad" - as in a soldier in a squad. : )

In Rogue Trader you play integral members of a crew who are responsible for overseeing and commanding the work of the crew and units on your ship. I wonder if Only War will have a similar setup.

Commissar Stein wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Commissar Stein wrote:I'm not sure if the idea is that we simply play a squad, or if we play the HQ of a squad - and assume the roles of Sergeants, Commanders, Commissars, and so on. Maybe the system allows for both - which would be a cool option in and of itself. In any case, the fluff and art alone should be great... I hope.

Just to clear this question up - Only War is still very much a traditional RPG in the sense that you have a character - singular - who represents 'you' (so to speak) within the game. Yes, OW has squad-based elements simply due to the context of the game (it is about the Guard after all), but you don't play a squad, as you put it. You still have one guy (or gal!) that is your character.

Ah! See how type-o's get you into trouble. I meant to write "in a squad" - as in a soldier in a squad. : )

In Rogue Trader you play integral members of a crew who are responsible for overseeing and commanding the work of the crew and units on your ship. I wonder if Only War will have a similar setup.

According to the site you pick a specialist career so to speak. You can be hangman, bolt magnet, toy soldier, stitcher, heavy weapons operator and cogboy to name a few things. I'm sure you can also go with regular (wo)man in flak and work your way up from there.

About Guardsmen retiring: I can think of at least two examples. One, a short story from Into the Maelstrom, talking about how the planetary governor was a Guardsman who managed to serve long enough to reach retirement. Another, Sabbat Martyr, has one of the major side characters as a retired Guardsman on a pilgrimage. Both are also by separate authors, no less (oh, yeah, I also think that there's a bunch of Veterans in one of the Eisenhorn short-stories who retired, but a bunch went loopy).

So, yeah, IG can retire. Even Commissars can (if I recall right, Cain's teaching at the Schola was post-retirement), so it's not like they are shuffled around until they die.

Commissar Stein, being a female having played lots of 40k rpg over the last few years, there's never any probs playing female chars, unless you wanna play Speth Mahweens (well, derr).

After all, the Emperor and Chaos Gods are all equal opportunity employers

And I'm a bit horrified at your experience with your store. We've always got at least a few girls playing and painting in all our GW stores here.

Commissar Stein wrote:On Female Guard:

Being a female fan of the 40k world, I find it can at times be an isolating experience. I won't get into why but I did overhear story of a friend quoting an employee at one of my favourite GW workshops, saying 'I don't like women in the store because it 'distracted from the hobby.'

I haven't been back there since but I can't say it won't keep me from the store forever... (I'm pretty sure I know which employee it was - he was never very nice to me).

That said - I have noticed some of the faces of the IG looking quite unisex, and I try to give these faces a bit of a lighter look in the hope that it makes them a bit more feminine. One GW employee was examining my miniatures, and noted "this one looks female!" I guess it's sort of working...

In terms of this game in general: I'm quite excited about this game... I'm not sure if the idea is that we simply play a squad, or if we play the HQ of a squad - and assume the roles of Sergeants, Commanders, Commissars, and so on. Maybe the system allows for both - which would be a cool option in and of itself. In any case, the fluff and art alone should be great... I hope.

Cheers,

K

From the look of it, you pick out a guard character, and go for it.

You can already be the commisar, sergeant and commander, this one is more of a war game/ character driven.

You might have a few minions, but more or less, you get the regualr joes as cannon fodder, so to speak.

"As Guardsmen, you will be ordered to engage the enemy with a myriad of tactics. Your squad might be responsible for guiding an important dignitary through a perilous warzone, or instructed to infiltrate a besieged fort to deliver important intelligence. With missions as varied as the galaxy’s innumerable warfronts, you and your squadmates must often rely on nothing but your own grim determination and your faith in each other.

Take the role of a Guardsman with one of twelve distinct Specialties, offering unique skills to your squad to complement those of your comrades. Will you bring the light of the God-Emperor to the battlefield as a Ministorum Priest, or will you wield the Imperium’s most cutting-edge technology as a fearsome Storm Trooper? Perhaps you’ll tend to the machine spirits of the Guard’s many war machines as a Tech-Priest Enginseer, or lead the charge as your squad’s Sergeant. Whatever your function, you’ll be a vital part of the Imperium’s vast war machine."

-Paraphrased from the website.


Needless to say, fifteen hours is all you need.