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ZebioLizard wrote:
Needless to say it ended up with a keyed car and slashed tires.

Needless to say, that kind of vandalism gets people dragged around back of a building and beaten or shot and killed where I'm from. Definitely the right way to handle an argument over a board game.

stewy37 wrote:

ZebioLizard wrote:
Needless to say it ended up with a keyed car and slashed tires.

Needless to say, that kind of vandalism gets people dragged around back of a building and beaten or shot and killed where I'm from. Definitely the right way to handle an argument over a board game.

Pretty much, it was a stupid move from a person over a game.

Play 1v1v1 and have one player leave after both teams spend a round of shooting on me and then the remaining player has an assault army just itching to tear me open. Not fun. Not fun at all.

Once upon a time, at the FLGS, there was one man who LOVED his Eldar army. Painstakingly painted, modeled exactly as they were equipped, not a single drop of paint out of place.

Then, when someone was applying a blast-template, he accidentally elbowed the Wave Serpent and broke off a piece of it.

This man proceeded to take a chair, smash his partner over the head with it, and then toss it through the display case, wrecking almost 200 dollars worth of fully painted, assembled models.

Needless to say, that man has never been seen again. It was a damn shame, too; most of the time, he was quite friendly.

DemetriDominov wrote:Play 1v1v1 and have one player leave after both teams spend a round of shooting on me and then the remaining player has an assault army just itching to tear me open. Not fun. Not fun at all.

I find that happens in about 66% of the 3 person games I've been in. The army in the middle always gets murdurated.

Mordiggian wrote:

DemetriDominov wrote:Play 1v1v1 and have one player leave after both teams spend a round of shooting on me and then the remaining player has an assault army just itching to tear me open. Not fun. Not fun at all.

I find that happens in about 66% of the 3 person games I've been in. The army in the middle always gets murdurated.

That is why you don't play 1v1v1, you play 2v1 with the solo person bringing two separate Force Org charts at the specified points limit.

TermiesInARaider wrote:Once upon a time, at the FLGS, there was one man who LOVED his Eldar army. Painstakingly painted, modeled exactly as they were equipped, not a single drop of paint out of place.

Then, when someone was applying a blast-template, he accidentally elbowed the Wave Serpent and broke off a piece of it.

This man proceeded to take a chair, smash his partner over the head with it, and then toss it through the display case, wrecking almost 200 dollars worth of fully painted, assembled models.

Needless to say, that man has never been seen again. It was a damn shame, too; most of the time, he was quite friendly.

Words escape me.

Wow.

I had another player at my FLGS sit over another player's shoulder and constantly insult his models, play style, and army.
The kid finally lost it, turned around, and (I kid you not) roared in his face. The player backed off real quick.

It's got to be a Shokk Attack gun send a Squad of Khorne beserkers and attatched Abadon into the warp.

TermiesInARaider wrote:Once upon a time, at the FLGS, there was one man who LOVED his Eldar army. Painstakingly painted, modeled exactly as they were equipped, not a single drop of paint out of place.

Then, when someone was applying a blast-template, he accidentally elbowed the Wave Serpent and broke off a piece of it.

This man proceeded to take a chair, smash his partner over the head with it, and then toss it through the display case, wrecking almost 200 dollars worth of fully painted, assembled models.

Needless to say, that man has never been seen again. It was a damn shame, too; most of the time, he was quite friendly.

I'm more surprised the cops weren't called over that action.

You know why the cops weren't called? It is a fable. You can tell because it starts with 'Once upon a time...'

pretre wrote:You know why the cops weren't called? It is a fable. You can tell because it starts with 'Once upon a time...'

If what I understand is correct, they were. :/ The guy had to pay a crapload of damages, plus take an anger-management class.

Mordiggian wrote:

DemetriDominov wrote:Play 1v1v1 and have one player leave after both teams spend a round of shooting on me and then the remaining player has an assault army just itching to tear me open. Not fun. Not fun at all.

I find that happens in about 66% of the 3 person games I've been in. The army in the middle always gets murdurated.

I actually happens in all 3-way FFA games, no matter the game. Either two players team up on one, or one sits out and watches the other two murder each other.

A little richard (see what I did there!) in my shop, he was playing one of my buddies ( he plays tau), he popped the kids GK LR and destroyed the termies inside. The kid grabbed his LR and slammed it on the ground, guess who was walking in when he did that. His dad, apparently the army he was playing with was his dads and it was painted pretty great. Everyone turned their backs to the crying, kid was 16 or so, dad was raging I heard a couple of swings of leather but not enough for me to turn around (totally agree with his rage, kid deserved those 2 belt swings)

mitnal wrote:A little richard (see what I did there!) in my shop, he was playing one of my buddies ( he plays tau), he popped the kids GK LR and destroyed the termies inside. The kid grabbed his LR and slammed it on the ground, guess who was walking in when he did that. His dad, apparently the army he was playing with was his dads and it was painted pretty great. Everyone turned their backs to the crying, kid was 16 or so, dad was raging I heard a couple of swings of leather but not enough for me to turn around (totally agree with his rage, kid deserved those 2 belt swings)

Also goes to show the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...dad upset and rages, not shocking the kid raged when he got upset too...

Skriker

Skriker wrote:

mitnal wrote:A little richard (see what I did there!) in my shop, he was playing one of my buddies ( he plays tau), he popped the kids GK LR and destroyed the termies inside. The kid grabbed his LR and slammed it on the ground, guess who was walking in when he did that. His dad, apparently the army he was playing with was his dads and it was painted pretty great. Everyone turned their backs to the crying, kid was 16 or so, dad was raging I heard a couple of swings of leather but not enough for me to turn around (totally agree with his rage, kid deserved those 2 belt swings)

Also goes to show the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...dad upset and rages, not shocking the kid raged when he got upset too...

Skriker

It's called discipline and a lack of it is underminding society.
Just fyi.

Yeah, pretty bad. I saw this guy lose like 6 terms to a Tac marine charge, he literally put some dice in his mouth and chomped on them, then started screaming because he broke a tooth.... =/

The best (or worst) Richard jappery i have ever experiences was at a Warhammer Player society tournament about 5 years ago, it was during 4th edition 40K.

I was playing a guy who had a chaos army with the most horrific squad of chosen bodyguards, basically fleet of claw, all power weapon attacks, about 40 attacks each etc etc, it must have costa fortune in points.

Anyway i was fielding a lysander terminator army, with a librarian in one of the squads. The squad had 2 assault cannons so chose to fire at the squad of chaos marines in front of them, i then wanted to use the librarian power (name escapes me) that you choose a table edge and basically anything under the line from the librarian to the edge has to take a leadership test.

The guy then stopped me mid toll claiming "Your not doing that mate!".....i enquired as to why not, he stated that i had shot the squad in front with the assault cannon terminators, so the librarian had to "shoot" the same target as he was in the squad and it was a shooting attack.

I disagreed with his assumption, as it states quite clearly in the codex that the power picks a table edge, not a squad. To save further argument, we got a judge to give a verdict on our disagreement.

The judge came over and seemed rather friendly with the other player, however it was a friendly tournamnet. we explained the situation, the judge hummed and hayed, then basically agreed with the guy, stating that the rules say shooting squads have to shoot the same target.

Even though codex rules supercede the core rules in terms of special wepaons etc.

This basically meant my librarian was now a paperweight in his current position, and i proceeeded to get raped by chosen squad o doom, where a 2+ save and 5+ inv are for nought.

I found out after that game when i met my mate who was ona diff table that the guy i had played did the same thing with someone in the previous game, and the judge was actually good friends with him...... :-|

I wasn't the most impresed that afternoon.

That is why you do lib attacks first! I learned that the hard way aswell, I did the void scatter power, it scattered to another unit and dude told me it was invalid because it was another unit and not the original unit I shot at =/, back when I was a noobie starting off I totally bought it.

So I was playing a game with some out of state guys a while back. They were friendly, kinda jackasses but whatever. We layed out the terrain, and they told me to pick what all the features were. So you know, I pointed out the buildings, ruins, mountains, and one bunker in the middle. They weren't really paying attention though, I even said it twice but they weren't listening they just kept talking about Jersey Shore.

So anyway, it's like turn 4, I get my Devastators into the bunker, and they start swearing at me and shrieking like lunatics "YOU NEVER SAID THERE WAS A BUNKER ON THE MAP, THIS IS SUCH BS!!!!". So I let it just be ruins, because I didn't want a problem with them, they looked like they were on steroids, or just high from tanning all day. But they were still really mad about it, I won the game and they were pissed.

Then, a few hours later I finished for the day, went out to my car, and someone had slashed by tires and keyed "SNOOKI RULZ" on the side of my car!

Joey wrote:It's called discipline and a lack of it is underminding society.
Just fyi.

Sorry, but totally different animal. Discipline is necessary and important in raising children. Teaching boundaries, respect for self and others and such is vital to being able to be a useful member of society as an adult. Beating a kid with a belt in a public location over the breaking of a *toy tank* is not discipline it is complete and total abuse. The father's rage reaction and VERY extreme response to the situation makes me completely unsurprised that the kid had his own rage reaction when the game didn't go his way. Violence begets violence. Discipline begets respect. It is clear from all indictors here that what that father is doing is *not* instilling even the slightest amount of respect for anyone in his son. I am not one of those people who believes you need to coddle children, but by the same token you don't beat them publically over a broken toy either.

I am a first responder and the fact that not a single person stepped up to stop this in the store really bothers me. It was extreme, uncalled for and just perpetuates the overall problem. Can't tell me that kid learned any kind of lesson from that other than don't get caught. That is not discipline it is fear and fear doesn't teach anything it just causes fear and leads to the fearful lashing out at others that they perceive as weak themselves, propogating the cycle of fear and violence. There are other more effective methods to punish the kid in a way that will instill a respect for the father's property that don't involve a public or even private beating. You know if dad hadn't walked in the kid would have blamed the damage on some jerk down and the store and dad would have been down there looking for whomever broke his tank and would likely have treated them the same way as he did his kid. Yeah good methods there...

Skriker

A guy I was playing was rolling badly so started to call out what the average roll should be and tried to use that.
Also similar to the judge one, I was in a rules debate with a guy at a tournament, and the judge came over, we stated the rules argument, and literally the judge asked the other guy what his ruling would be....needless to say I was not amused,

Joey wrote:

Skriker wrote:

mitnal wrote:A little richard (see what I did there!) in my shop, he was playing one of my buddies ( he plays tau), he popped the kids GK LR and destroyed the termies inside. The kid grabbed his LR and slammed it on the ground, guess who was walking in when he did that. His dad, apparently the army he was playing with was his dads and it was painted pretty great. Everyone turned their backs to the crying, kid was 16 or so, dad was raging I heard a couple of swings of leather but not enough for me to turn around (totally agree with his rage, kid deserved those 2 belt swings)

Also goes to show the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...dad upset and rages, not shocking the kid raged when he got upset too...

Skriker

It's called discipline and a lack of it is underminding society.
Just fyi.

That's an impressive level of being a total prick you've got going on there.

Skriker wrote:

Joey wrote:It's called discipline and a lack of it is underminding society.
Just fyi.

Sorry, but totally different animal. Discipline is necessary and important in raising children. Teaching boundaries, respect for self and others and such is vital to being able to be a useful member of society as an adult. Beating a kid with a belt in a public location over the breaking of a *toy tank* is not discipline it is complete and total abuse. The father's rage reaction and VERY extreme response to the situation makes me completely unsurprised that the kid had his own rage reaction when the game didn't go his way. Violence begets violence. Discipline begets respect. It is clear from all indictors here that what that father is doing is *not* instilling even the slightest amount of respect for anyone in his son. I am not one of those people who believes you need to coddle children, but by the same token you don't beat them publically over a broken toy either.

I am a first responder and the fact that not a single person stepped up to stop this in the store really bothers me. It was extreme, uncalled for and just perpetuates the overall problem. Can't tell me that kid learned any kind of lesson from that other than don't get caught. That is not discipline it is fear and fear doesn't teach anything it just causes fear and leads to the fearful lashing out at others that they perceive as weak themselves, propogating the cycle of fear and violence. There are other more effective methods to punish the kid in a way that will instill a respect for the father's property that don't involve a public or even private beating. You know if dad hadn't walked in the kid would have blamed the damage on some jerk down and the store and dad would have been down there looking for whomever broke his tank and would likely have treated them the same way as he did his kid. Yeah good methods there...

Skriker

Do you know what the kid is like at home? Do you know what's going on in his life? Maybe he beat up his mum the day before. Maybe he's getting in fights at school.
Judging how people raise their children based on one incident is silly, and out of proportion. Getting hit with a belt hurts, but it's not particularly damaging, and not as painful as being punched or kicked.

Joey wrote:
Do you know what the kid is like at home? Do you know what's going on in his life? Maybe he beat up his mum the day before. Maybe he's getting in fights at school.
Judging how people raise their children based on one incident is silly, and out of proportion. Getting hit with a belt hurts, but it's not particularly damaging, and not as painful as being punched or kicked.

So now assault isn't assault until you know the person's lifestory?

I think not.

I think you'll find that incidents like this are usually not "one-off" incidents and there is usually a history of violence in the family.

Iranna.

I feel that a public whipping is still fairly inappropriate. I feel extremely uncomfortable when someone is yelling at their kid for something in public, especially if the kid is crying. Excluding, of course, very young children and toddlers, then it's just sort of expected. But this guy was 16. Generally by that age, you are at least a little jaded to being yelled at by your folks.

I remember when my older brother first got his driver's license, and immediatly went out and foolishly wrecked my dad's car. My dad was screaming his head off at him, not only for the damages of the car, but because of a huge fine. The incident was right next to a crowded parking lot of some super store, and a crowd had gathered, everyone watching this man who looked ready to explode scream at a young teenager. He didn't start crying, but was incredibly embaressed and feeling really stupid.

From the sound of this guy's dad, i don't wanna know what would happen if he wrecked the car. If your Pop whips you in a public store for breaking a $70 raider (including paints), if you wrecked his car, then you might as well just run for it.

By 16 you are a little old for whippings anyway. A more reasonable reaction (and what i would have done) would be to make the kid apologize to the other player for his extremely innappropriate attitude, then immediatly drive him home, silent all the way to let him stew in the guilt and uncomfort he should be feeling. Once home, a very stern talking to would follow, with much expression of my dissappointment in him as well as telling him how embaressed i would of felt, and how ashamed i was of him. He would have to come up with the money to replace the model and compensate for my wasted time. Some other punishment would follow, such as grounding, withholding spending money, whatever gets the message across i suppose. I'd probably have him call up the store manager and have him apologize for the disturbance he created in the store aswell.

I personally would be so embarresed and ashamed if i had a son that did that that i would have difficulty ever going back to the store. I would feel awful.

Back when I still played at my FLGS, they were doing a WH40k tourney. It was 3rd edition, so the vanilla SM Codex still had the armory.

One of my opponents tried to tell me that my list was illegal because I had a powerfist on a veteran sergeant who was in power armor. He pointed me to the armory page, which said that, "Models in Terminator Armor may only use items marked with an asterisk," and told me that that meant that if the model in question does not have Terminator Armor, it cannot select that weapon. I knew better, but I didn't know the words to use to prove it, and fortunately he gave up on that and said after a bit of discussion, "But I guess I'll let you use it this time."

In his defence, I'm pretty sure there was a translation issue, based on the guy's first language seeming to be french (guessing by his accent, and the fact it was in Quebec), rather than a deliberate attempt to obfuscate the rules. A while later - well, okay, maybe a month or so later - I realized there'd be an easy way to prove the truth - point out the Chainfist, which says, "Terminators Only," in parentheses, or point at the power sword, which was also marked with an asterisk.

TheWildHost wrote:

TheLionOfTheForest wrote:

TheWildHost wrote:I am guilty of swiping a dice or two without my opponent looking, but when I catch him (Unless it is a lot of dice) I let it fly, I mean, who does it hurt?

Another thing was my opponent tried to convince me that if I killed the Tech marine guy behind his turret space marine cannon( The name evades me, thundershot?) he could still fire it.

Swiping as in stealing the actual dice ? or "yeah i rolled four 5s" when you really rolled four 1's.
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No. Like sliding a die or two into the wounds pile. Like I said I have not done this in quite a while.

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Joey wrote:It's called discipline and a lack of it is underminding society.
Just fyi.

Bullsquirt.

It's called 'teaching kids that raging and engaging in violence is a suitable response to an upsetting situation'.