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Belexar wrote:

TheWildHost wrote:

TheLionOfTheForest wrote:

TheWildHost wrote:I am guilty of swiping a dice or two without my opponent looking, but when I catch him (Unless it is a lot of dice) I let it fly, I mean, who does it hurt?

Another thing was my opponent tried to convince me that if I killed the Tech marine guy behind his turret space marine cannon( The name evades me, thundershot?) he could still fire it.

Swiping as in stealing the actual dice ? or "yeah i rolled four 5s" when you really rolled four 1's.
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No. Like sliding a die or two into the wounds pile. Like I said I have not done this in quite a while.

Quit making me feel bad!

DeathReaper wrote:

Mordiggian wrote:

DemetriDominov wrote:Play 1v1v1 and have one player leave after both teams spend a round of shooting on me and then the remaining player has an assault army just itching to tear me open. Not fun. Not fun at all.

I find that happens in about 66% of the 3 person games I've been in. The army in the middle always gets murdurated.

That is why you don't play 1v1v1, you play 2v1 with the solo person bringing two separate Force Org charts at the specified points limit.

I can't figure out the multiquote tool.. so i just left out one of the respondents who replied... sounds familiar eh?

Anyway, yeah, I really think that a poly-political game should be devised as the next installment of Warhammer 40k, where every faction involved has their own objective(s) to secure by turn 5. Whoever secures objective A, or the most objectives wins. Also, have games with much more people than just 1v1v1... be more like Risk where it could be a 7 way FFA and every army would be under 1000 points or so (in a non Apoc game). We've all heard of the battle of 7 armies haven't we?

Imagine the Richardry of those games....

When GK was new I decided to be a bit (a lot?) of a dick and decided to take a match against my friends Nids.

He had 1600p with 4Heavy's and I had 900p (Draigo and Paladins), easy to say since he had so many multi-wound creatures and I had instant death on every wound I only lost 2 paladins before tabling him.
He also have an incredible amount of bad luck.

A real hollow victory but fun to play the bad guy for once xD

Joey wrote:Do you know what the kid is like at home? Do you know what's going on in his life? Maybe he beat up his mum the day before. Maybe he's getting in fights at school.
Judging how people raise their children based on one incident is silly, and out of proportion. Getting hit with a belt hurts, but it's not particularly damaging, and not as painful as being punched or kicked.

Who cares if he is beating up mum the day before or he's getting into fights at school public beating like that is abuse and dad wasn't doing it for any other reason than his own rage outlet on his pretty tank being busted and yes you *can* tell how people rasie their children based on event like this. The "kid's" response in the game is another obvious symptom. Dad's response to kid's response makes the picture much clearer. Beating your child with a belt in a game store because they broke your tank is WAY out of proportion.

Skriker

Or it could be seen as the old fashioned tool of punishment, some people still are being raised by the methods that are from 20's to 80's after all.

loota boy wrote:I feel that a public whipping is still fairly inappropriate. I feel extremely uncomfortable when someone is yelling at their kid for something in public, especially if the kid is crying. Excluding, of course, very young children and toddlers, then it's just sort of expected. But this guy was 16. Generally by that age, you are at least a little jaded to being yelled at by your folks.

I don't know about you, but if my father hit me with a belt, in public or otherwise, I'd damn well pay attention and not make the same mistake twice. The guy seems to be a bit of a brat, so I doubt his father being disappointed in him would have much of an effect.

Besides, violence can quite easily used for discipline. Simply saying that it doesn't work doesn't make it so. The one time I was spanked stopped me from doing the same thing again.

OK. Methinks its time to go all UN peacekeeper-esque:

Striking a child should only be used in truly dire circumstances i.e. not the above. That would warrant some shouting at and depending on the time and effort put in, possible THREAT of violence.

The common tactic of moving a transport at full speed and turning it 90 degrees at the end of its movement phase to gain some extra movement next turn is one of my biggest irks. Another one which I've observed is a player who uses Contemptor Dreadnoughts as standard dreads. The issue is that he places them behind Rhinos to gain cover from them and fires over the top of the vehicles. However a normal Dreadnought would be too small to do this, and thus cheese results.

....Taking good few tyrano.....birthing thingies.... at 1500pts and spawning a few dozen termaguants every turn is also in bad taste to me (I only managed to hold of the tide of 50+ nids due to him running out of models and having three Penitant Engines blocking the main route to my forces via having a combat between two impassible terrain pieces).

....Oh and Thunderwolf Cavalry. They can be pretty bent when the owning player saves against over a dozen daemon weapon attacks every turn wih their 3+ invulnerable save (I threw ten marines, eleven daemons, and a chaos lord at them, by turn five the last model had managed to kill everything ¬¬). I think it was killed by a rampaging dreadnought in the end. =P

Bringing Mephsiton to any type of friendly game (well in my mate's case, I typically just shoot him with six plasma cannons turn one and call it a day). Any army with less than twenty models in it (looking at you Blood Angels/Grey Knights) is also in bad taste to me too. As in "What? So I just have to overwhelm you with my numbers rather than use some semblance of tactics?". =/

Wyrmalla wrote:The common tactic of moving a transport at full speed and turning it 90 degrees at the end of its movement phase to gain some extra movement next turn is one of my biggest irks.

You only gain displacement on the first turn out of deployment. Anything after that you lose displacement for turning then gain it back when you turn and move again.

....Taking good few tyrano.....birthing thingies.... at 1500pts and spawning a few dozen termaguants every turn is also in bad taste to me (I only managed to hold of the tide of 50+ nids due to him running out of models and having three Penitant Engines blocking the main route to my forces via having a combat between two impassible terrain pieces).

So one of the semi-viable competitive choices is Richardy? Would you feel better if he had spent the 600 points (3 Tervigons) on 120 Termagants instead?

0.o I don't see taking a monstrous creature as a troops choice to be rather fair, especially not one that can make up its cost in points in only a turn or two. Of course I also don't like that army's can take Terminators, etc as troops either, but I guess I'm just coming from the 4th edition mentality. The game went on for a good few turns, by the end of it there was more than 120 nids on the table. =/

Wyrmalla wrote:0.o I don't see taking a monstrous creature as a troops choice to be rather fair, especially not one that can make up its cost in points in only a turn or two. Of course I also don't like that army's can take Terminators, etc as troops either, but I guess I'm just coming from the 4th edition mentality. The game went on for a good few turns, by the end of it there was more than 120 nids on the table. =/

4th edition and before had it too, Dark angels has been able to take troop Terminators since 3rd edition. Along with codex Daemonhunters and its GK terminators.

Wyrmalla wrote:0.o I don't see taking a monstrous creature as a troops choice to be rather fair, especially not one that can make up its cost in points in only a turn or two. Of course I also don't like that army's can take Terminators, etc as troops either, but I guess I'm just coming from the 4th edition mentality. The game went on for a good few turns, by the end of it there was more than 120 nids on the table. =/

The nids already have a subpar codex, why gimp them even harder then that fiend Robin already has? The Tervigon was one of the few undisputably good points of the sucktastic 5e codex. Please, the Tyranids are already disadvantaged against every other fifth edition codex army, we *don't* need more things taken away from us, especially not one of the few good scraps tossed to us in the 5th dex. If you want real shenanigans, see the infamous Psyfleman dread, Blood Angels 'Nought Spam, and Imperial Vendetta spam lists. There are entire builds that cannot even *touch* Vendetta spamlists.

Daemonhunters only had Grey Knights and Storm Troopers as troops though? Terminators were HQ or elites. 0.o

I'm just referring to 5th edition allowing for units that had been formally elites to be taken as troops as being a bit bent in my opinion. Having the ability to take six units of terminators, then an additional three as elites, or six units of veteran assault marines as your line men isn't something I'm into. It used to be that you would take two units of troops, and then support them with an elites heavy army, not just an army filled entirely of elites. Troops are meant to be your dog grunts, not your veterans just because your army is apparently filled with them. =/

Having the ability to take six units of terminators, then an additional three as elites, or six units of veteran assault marines as your line men isn't something I'm into

If it says you must take them as troops, you must do so, believe me I've tried it with DA before, now I just fill up the slots with termies and dreads.

Also you're right, terminators were elites in the daemonhunters book.

Wyrmalla wrote:0.o I don't see taking a monstrous creature as a troops choice to be rather fair, especially not one that can make up its cost in points in only a turn or two.

A turn or two?

Using a naked Tervigon (and no one runs them naked) it takes 32 Termagants to "make up the points".
Average roll on 3d6 is 10.5, rounded to 11. That's 3 turns on average. Assuming you don't roll a double anywhere in there.
If you have problems killing a Tervigon, you have problems killing MEQ really - sure it's T6 W6, but it only has a 3+ save and will almost never have cover.
Tervigon spam only works because it puts lots of models on the table (in theory) with the Furious Charge/Poison bubble (making the "make up the points" number 36 instead of 32 - really 39 because no one ever goes without Catalyst)

The game went on for a good few turns, by the end of it there was more than 120 nids on the table. =/

With how many Tervigons? I don't disbelieve that it happened, but that's unlikely (unless he also started with a lot of models)

Wyrmalla wrote:Daemonhunters only had Grey Knights and Storm Troopers as troops though? Terminators were HQ or elites. 0.o

I'm just referring to 5th edition allowing for units that had been formally elites to be taken as troops as being a bit bent in my opinion. Having the ability to take six units of terminators, then an additional three as elites, or six units of veteran assault marines as your line men isn't something I'm into. It used to be that you would take two units of troops, and then support them with an elites heavy army, not just an army filled entirely of elites. Troops are meant to be your dog grunts, not your veterans just because your army is apparently filled with them. =/

But the orks codex is from 4th edition and it has all sorts of things that switch units from elites/fast attack to troops. Are you sure you're not remembering 4th wrong? I mean, I started in 5th, so I could be wrong, but that codex seems to be a strong counter to your argument.

As for me, I've had moments where I thought people were being jerks, only to find out that they were doing something legit later. My store has several tourney players, and they are used to playing with WAAC'd and rules lawyers all the time. they get into a habit of playing prepared for that, and occassionally forget I'm a very laidback guy. This leads to me misunderstanding people all the time, but we always clear it up later and dispel any bad feelings. I've never had a guy that was actually trying to be a jerk, although they have come in the store at times, they dont tend to stick around, as our tourney players tend to scare them off (kinda hard to abuse rules when your opponent knows almost all of them )

Usualy for me it goes
me "are you sure you can do that? That seems kinda wierd"
other guy "yeah, this is how it works. You can do it too *shows me example"
me "ah ok play on"

Although I'm sure I'm way overdue for a prick, I'm not looking forward to playing against one any time soon

We have a group here we call "The Russians". Basically they do everything in their power to win games even if its flat out cheating. One of them won best general at Astronomi-con based on the fact that he pissed his opponents off so badly they just didnt care anymore.

Its a saga of douchery with these guys Im not even sure where to start.

- slow play, Ive seen them be on 3 objectives at the start of the movement phase on turn 2 and then start arguing matches until time is called and they win games and its only turn 3.
-interupt your turn by them starting their turn when you arent done
-Extremely questionable measurement, 6" = 8" 12" = 18"
-Speak to each other in a different language to their friends that hang around the table (essentially having 4 on 1)
-Use count as in the worst way possible example: their blood angels army will suddenly become space wolves mid game
-Hang models off building beams then claim they cant be assaulted because you cant make base contact.
-"fly high" with landspeeders... removing them from the table and then re deepstriking on the following turn
-Break landspeeders off based and place them straight down when they deepstrike within 1" of an enemy unit
-Use the 50% cheat roll, essentially arguing about rules then saying "just 4+ it" then roll while you are trying to tell them no and they just carry on like you arent there.

There's much much more but that is all that comes to mind, lukcily they've been banned from nearly every GW and tournament, although sometimes they have used fake names to get in still.

MrMoustaffa wrote:
Although I'm sure I'm way overdue for a prick, I'm not looking forward to playing against one any time soon

Come to Astronomi-con in Toronto and ask to play Milos the Russian (he isnt russian but everyone will know) and prepare for 2 hours of hell.

Oh! That reminded me of one he pulled off, his opponent declared his whole army in reserve and the russian carried on to have a 45min arguement with his opponent and the organizers that if there is nothing on the table he wins, he did end up winning because there wasnt enough time left... The only guy I know that enjoy playing against him had an army designed to wreck his face, my friend won the game and Milos left the tournament with 1 game to go.

The Crusader wrote:OK. Methinks its time to go all UN peacekeeper-esque:

Striking a child should only be used in truly dire circumstances i.e. not the above. That would warrant some shouting at and depending on the time and effort put in, possible THREAT of violence.

The only time I'd ever let someone hit a child in front of me is if it's this guy:

DemetriDominov wrote:

The Crusader wrote:OK. Methinks its time to go all UN peacekeeper-esque:

Striking a child should only be used in truly dire circumstances i.e. not the above. That would warrant some shouting at and depending on the time and effort put in, possible THREAT of violence.

The only time I'd ever let someone hit a child in front of me is if it's this guy:

Spoiler:

and more recently, "Did my hand fall from my wrist?!"

That is treason.

ZebioLizard2 wrote:4th edition and before had it too, Dark angels has been able to take troop Terminators since 3rd edition. Along with codex Daemonhunters and its GK terminators.

Actually GK terminators in the Daemonhunters codex were Elites, not troops. Only GK troops in DH were power armored GKs.

Skriker


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Wyrmalla wrote:Daemonhunters only had Grey Knights and Storm Troopers as troops though? Terminators were HQ or elites. 0.o

I'm just referring to 5th edition allowing for units that had been formally elites to be taken as troops as being a bit bent in my opinion. Having the ability to take six units of terminators, then an additional three as elites, or six units of veteran assault marines as your line men isn't something I'm into. It used to be that you would take two units of troops, and then support them with an elites heavy army, not just an army filled entirely of elites. Troops are meant to be your dog grunts, not your veterans just because your army is apparently filled with them. =/

While I agree wholly with your point a game would have to be for some pretty heavy points to be able to take six units of termies as troops,plus 3 as elites and your army would be lacking in anything but terminators too.

I too am annoyed after the rules were pushed to the point of *requiring* at least 2 units of troops, and enabling troops to be the most prevelant units in an army if you wanted and then adding in needing to be a troops choice in order to capture objectives of anykind that now special characters and rules abound to make various elites and fast attack troops into troops units instead. It is an interesting "option" but gets really old when EVERY version of that army you face contains the offending special character and is taking full advantage of not really having to have any troops at all. Then of course the GK codex just comes along and makes termies troops, period. As much has termie troops annoy me, it does sort of make sense in a force of the elite of the elite that they would be troops to begin with.

Skriker

DemetriDominov wrote:

The Crusader wrote:OK. Methinks its time to go all UN peacekeeper-esque:

Striking a child should only be used in truly dire circumstances i.e. not the above. That would warrant some shouting at and depending on the time and effort put in, possible THREAT of violence.

The only time I'd ever let someone hit a child in front of me is if it's this guy:

Spoiler:

and more recently, "Did my hand fall from my wrist?!"

GAWD Tyrion, Y U SO AWESOME?! The man is 100% BAMF.

loota boy wrote:

DemetriDominov wrote:

The Crusader wrote:OK. Methinks its time to go all UN peacekeeper-esque:

Striking a child should only be used in truly dire circumstances i.e. not the above. That would warrant some shouting at and depending on the time and effort put in, possible THREAT of violence.

The only time I'd ever let someone hit a child in front of me is if it's this guy:

Spoiler:

and more recently, "Did my hand fall from my wrist?!"

GAWD Tyrion, Y U SO AWESOME?! The man is 100% BAMF.

there's another scene like that in season 2

Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
there's another scene like that in season 2

The quote is something to the effect of "Did my hand fall from my wrist?!" It's pretty epic.

Squash wrote:So I was playing a game with some out of state guys a while back. They were friendly, kinda jackasses but whatever. We layed out the terrain, and they told me to pick what all the features were. So you know, I pointed out the buildings, ruins, mountains, and one bunker in the middle. They weren't really paying attention though, I even said it twice but they weren't listening they just kept talking about Jersey Shore.

So anyway, it's like turn 4, I get my Devastators into the bunker, and they start swearing at me and shrieking like lunatics "YOU NEVER SAID THERE WAS A BUNKER ON THE MAP, THIS IS SUCH BS!!!!". So I let it just be ruins, because I didn't want a problem with them, they looked like they were on steroids, or just high from tanning all day. But they were still really mad about it, I won the game and they were pissed.

Then, a few hours later I finished for the day, went out to my car, and someone had slashed by tires and keyed "SNOOKI RULZ" on the side of my car!

Pics or it didn't happen.

I refuse to believe in what possible universe therein exists Guidos playing 40k...

^^^ yeah, i called BS on that post the second i finished reading that, but i'm not super fond of confrontation on those sorts of things. If you hadn't thrown in that rediculous snooki rulz car incident at the end, i probably would have bought it. Would have raised an eyebrow at super tanned ultra muscled jersey people playing 40k, but the car stuff was rediculous.

Grimtuff wrote:
Pics or it didn't happen.

I refuse to believe in what possible universe therein exists Guidos playing 40k...

loota boy wrote:^^^ yeah, i called BS on that post the second i finished reading that, but i'm not super fond of confrontation on those sorts of things. If you hadn't thrown in that rediculous snooki rulz car incident at the end, i probably would have bought it. Would have raised an eyebrow at super tanned ultra muscled jersey people playing 40k, but the car stuff was rediculous.

i'm sure that most of you who have used vassal have heard of Rojan, who I've recently learned to be something of a WAAC player willing to cheat to win. It's not just his tourney level lists in friendly games, he used an apocalypse superheavy gun and use a medusa model and thus got off three barrage shots per model, for the cost of a medusa, and ensured that me and my teammate would be absolutely creamed by the sheer number of S10 AP2 large blast pieplates being dropped on our heads. I remember asking him why they got so many shots and he said "oh it's a DKoK special weapon" or something to that effect. But bas has informed me that no, it is in fact, a full blown apoc unit being dropped in normal 40k with no one's foreknowledge, using a much smaller model, and being used to take only as many points as regular medusae.