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My DE have all the lovin' they want

Also some really really good drugs

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

deejaybainbridge wrote:

Eldar need some loving.

No, no they do not.

They should be hated and scorned and driven from our fictional universe.

Slaneesh will take care of that. They releases next month.

MightyGodzilla wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

deejaybainbridge wrote:

Eldar need some loving.

No, no they do not.

They should be hated and scorned and driven from our fictional universe.

Slaneesh will take care of that. They releases next month.

I will be sure to put on my ghost helm and carry my lucky spirit stone.

That's a little harsh seeing as this is an Eldar Forum!


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deejaybainbridge wrote:


Eldar need some loving.


No, no they do not.

They should be hated and scorned and driven from our fictional universe.

That's a little harsh seeing as this is an Eldar forum!

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

deejaybainbridge wrote:

Eldar need some loving.

No, no they do not.

They should be hated and scorned and driven from our fictional universe.

That was a harsh comment that provided nothing for this thread.

ok....


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are you on my side or not?

...Yes kiddo's, here on dakka it's often actually the mods starting semi-off-topic flamewars! -_-'

Razgriz22 wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

deejaybainbridge wrote:

Eldar need some loving.

No, no they do not.

They should be hated and scorned and driven from our fictional universe.

That was a harsh comment that provided nothing for this thread.

Actually, that was Kid_Kyoto being sarcastic. Deep breaths, okay?

I want this to be true so badly!

Eldar are the only 40k army I've not collected. Never really wanted to, as I've never ever beaten an Eldar army.

Might give them a go now.

Ok Sorry

Okay guys, got some extra details on the earlier Eldar rumors, specifically artwork and what everything looks like. Still no rules. Looks like the Xentarchs are indeed Exarchs, whether they are special Exarch's or just new remodelling is to be seen. We've also got names nailed down a bit more from translations.

With the recent release of the end of this year's schedule looking like Chaos and Dark Angels getting done, we might see Eldar landing early Q1 2013. This would be very much appreciated. Depending who writes it!


Anyway, details below!

Eldar Warpspiders/Everguard
5 per box

Spiders: whole squad looks like the old exarch, no huge weapon, helmets smaller, but same shape, wrist blades, two small spinner weapons on rod mount from the back. Spider web like straps on the chest that hold the backpack (doesn’t look as broad as the old version), running, jumping and slightly cowering poses, exarch has extra pair of weapons on the cover, don’t remember the back pictures

Everguard: aspect warrior body with runes on the chest, same collar as warpspiders but no mandible arcs and gas masks, different more warlock-like face plate and small arc at back of the head, double bladed two-handed spears, very dynamic models, jets from the side/underside of the backpack, squad leader has larger head-arc, mantle hangs over the backpack, flies in the wind

Eldar Sky Charriots/Shining Spears

3 per box, look like small vypers, slightly larger than jetbikes. Two parts: an engine part with jetbike-like canopy but in the shape of a dragon, owl and hawk head, sideway jets, and a distinct winged chariot part, parts are connected by arcs.

Riders either warlocks but arms are not robed, spear, sword and staff; or shining spear aspect warriors with lances, shining spears have smooth canopies with gems instead animal heads, helms look very cylon-like, have collar-like shoulderguards

Eldar Jetbikes

3 per box, the same pose as dark eldar jetbike, guardian riders with smaller helmets or bareheaded with lots of flying hair (80s heavy metal mane) and without backpack, vyper-esque smooth canopy, jet and wings have the same design as a falcon grav tank, underslung twin shuriken catapults and/or serpent-shaped bladehooks, some riders have axes with a hole in the blade

Eldar Dragon Riders

3 per box, very slender lizard mounts not unlike slaanesh steeds, all female rider, no helmets, long braids, guardian armor without backpack, all have shining spear lances, sabres and/or sniper rifles as sidearms, the armor has no decoration, not even gems or small bubbles, only exception is a gem that holds a cloak that falls to the left side of the rider, very simplistic look, not aztec or tribal at all

Eldar Wraithguard/Cataphracts

3 per box, look like old versions but have two rods for upper arms and thighs instead of just one, some have feet, some hooves, large fins at the back

Cataphracts: float/fly, fluttering cloth pieces instead of legs, wing-shaped shields and spears, segmented/armored head

Eldar Swooping Hawks

5 per box, larger wings, not so stiff and two-dimensional, several straps of clothes from the loin, wrists and ankles, model stand on these straps, both shoulder plates have inbuilt missile racks, Exarch has two shoulder-mounted blasters and a scimitar in one hand and two optional rifles, one is the same as the old exarch had, the other is a small star cannon

The Avatar of the Young King

Completely new design, much smaller, only as large as a wraithguard, set of aspect armour where every piece is spread out and connected by a body of magma, looks like an fire/earth elemental clad in a suit of armour, dire avenger helm with fire from the eyes and half burnt helm crest, floats and torso pose looks like vader during his Noooo scream, hands are armored, blood is dripping from the left, the right is molten and transformed into a blade

Eldar Warlock

fits the current warlocks but sharper robe edges, hadouken pose but with staff in two hands

Eldar Spirit Warrior

wraithlord-war walker mix, trygon base, running bird legs with hooves, huge scaled torso, a dozen poles extend from the back (like wraithlord but three times as much), left forearm replaced with massive lance, right hand holds extra handle on lance shaft or a three pronged swastika blade. Lower back, left shoulder and part of the left arm are concealed by an impressive cloak, head is surrounded by scaled armour plating, large gem at the front, doesn’t bend upward towards the end but downward, whole model leans forward, chest can be opened, female pilot inside

Eldar Phoenix Lord Nuadhu, The Fireheart

nuadhua holds lance upright, one end on the ground, points with axe on something, shining spear helm with tail of hair, layered armour like dark eldar-armour but with smooth curves, can be placed on vyper-variant, looks very similar to a vyper, canopy more segmented and wings in falcon-style, one large jet engine, chariot platform on the back, two large pennants

Eldar Webway Gate

Two arcs that almost touch each other at the top, whole construct has hazelnut shape, pyramidal platform with oval basis, several destroyed columns, front columns are intact and carry swooping hawk and dark reaper statues, whole model is covered with thorn-twines (seems to be optional)

Eldar Dire Avenger Xentarch

holds two handed samurai sword downwards, two wrist-mounted shuriken catapults, banner, 99% that the phoenix on it is modeled on, one foot stands on a rock with an owl next to it, all armour plates are bedecked with a rune pattern, don’t know if this is only painted on

Eldar Howling Banshee Xentarch

golfer pose, bends forwards and slashs upwards with a sabre, stretches other arm straight into the air, holds tri-swatiska, has snakes woven into her hair

Eldar Striking Scorpion Xentarch

jumps forwards, holds two short but thick chainswords in front, back of armour has backbone-like element that looks like a scorpion tail, continued on the helmet and ends in a sting, stands on ornamented plate with roots on it

Eldar Fire Dragon Xentarch

knees almost, holds very long pike with two hands ready to fire, huge cluster of grenades on his back and his belt, helm ends in a dragon head

Eldar Lamia Strike Fighter / Moon Siren Bomber & Eldar Black Warden
plastic flyer combi-kit - The flyer is pretty large and has a crossbow shape, two canopies, one fin. The main variant on the cover has some lances and a large dorsal distort cannon. The other variant has extra downward/sideway thrusters

Some of this sounds remarkable, some of it sounds expected, and some of it seems ridiculous.

I'm really dissapointed that the wraithguard are unchanged.

This is a lot of detailed descriptions.

So this either means this is highly accurate, or heavily made up. I do hope it is the former!


Though Wraithguard being 3 per box will make large units very expensive


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dorantana wrote:
fits the current warlocks but sharper robe edges, hadouken pose but with staff in two hands

HADOKEN!

It seems that Exodites seem at least nodded to. I can't imagine Eldar Dinosaur Cavalry in any other setup. Poster went out of his way to mention the lack of a spirit stone as well, further leading to the Exodite assumption.

It also sounds like were going to be seeing more wraith-options. I may hold off on buying a bunch of new wraithlords now.

dorantana wrote:Okay guys, got some extra details on the earlier Eldar rumors, specifically artwork and what everything looks like. Still no rules. Looks like the Xentarchs are indeed Exarchs, whether they are special Exarch's or just new remodelling is to be seen. We've also got names nailed down a bit more from translations.

With the recent release of the end of this year's schedule looking like Chaos and Dark Angels getting done, we might see Eldar landing early Q1 2013. This would be very much appreciated. Depending who writes it!


Anyway, details below!

Eldar Warpspiders/Everguard
5 per box

Spiders: whole squad looks like the old exarch, no huge weapon, helmets smaller, but same shape, wrist blades, two small spinner weapons on rod mount from the back. Spider web like straps on the chest that hold the backpack (doesn’t look as broad as the old version), running, jumping and slightly cowering poses, exarch has extra pair of weapons on the cover, don’t remember the back pictures

Everguard: aspect warrior body with runes on the chest, same collar as warpspiders but no mandible arcs and gas masks, different more warlock-like face plate and small arc at back of the head, double bladed two-handed spears, very dynamic models, jets from the side/underside of the backpack, squad leader has larger head-arc, mantle hangs over the backpack, flies in the wind

Eldar Sky Charriots/Shining Spears

3 per box, look like small vypers, slightly larger than jetbikes. Two parts: an engine part with jetbike-like canopy but in the shape of a dragon, owl and hawk head, sideway jets, and a distinct winged chariot part, parts are connected by arcs.

Riders either warlocks but arms are not robed, spear, sword and staff; or shining spear aspect warriors with lances, shining spears have smooth canopies with gems instead animal heads, helms look very cylon-like, have collar-like shoulderguards

Eldar Jetbikes

3 per box, the same pose as dark eldar jetbike, guardian riders with smaller helmets or bareheaded with lots of flying hair (80s heavy metal mane) and without backpack, vyper-esque smooth canopy, jet and wings have the same design as a falcon grav tank, underslung twin shuriken catapults and/or serpent-shaped bladehooks, some riders have axes with a hole in the blade

Eldar Dragon Riders

3 per box, very slender lizard mounts not unlike slaanesh steeds, all female rider, no helmets, long braids, guardian armor without backpack, all have shining spear lances, sabres and/or sniper rifles as sidearms, the armor has no decoration, not even gems or small bubbles, only exception is a gem that holds a cloak that falls to the left side of the rider, very simplistic look, not aztec or tribal at all

Eldar Wraithguard/Cataphracts

3 per box, look like old versions but have two rods for upper arms and thighs instead of just one, some have feet, some hooves, large fins at the back

Cataphracts: float/fly, fluttering cloth pieces instead of legs, wing-shaped shields and spears, segmented/armored head

Eldar Swooping Hawks

5 per box, larger wings, not so stiff and two-dimensional, several straps of clothes from the loin, wrists and ankles, model stand on these straps, both shoulder plates have inbuilt missile racks, Exarch has two shoulder-mounted blasters and a scimitar in one hand and two optional rifles, one is the same as the old exarch had, the other is a small star cannon

The Avatar of the Young King

Completely new design, much smaller, only as large as a wraithguard, set of aspect armour where every piece is spread out and connected by a body of magma, looks like an fire/earth elemental clad in a suit of armour, dire avenger helm with fire from the eyes and half burnt helm crest, floats and torso pose looks like vader during his Noooo scream, hands are armored, blood is dripping from the left, the right is molten and transformed into a blade

Eldar Warlock

fits the current warlocks but sharper robe edges, hadouken pose but with staff in two hands

Eldar Spirit Warrior

wraithlord-war walker mix, trygon base, running bird legs with hooves, huge scaled torso, a dozen poles extend from the back (like wraithlord but three times as much), left forearm replaced with massive lance, right hand holds extra handle on lance shaft or a three pronged swastika blade. Lower back, left shoulder and part of the left arm are concealed by an impressive cloak, head is surrounded by scaled armour plating, large gem at the front, doesn’t bend upward towards the end but downward, whole model leans forward, chest can be opened, female pilot inside

Eldar Phoenix Lord Nuadhu, The Fireheart

nuadhua holds lance upright, one end on the ground, points with axe on something, shining spear helm with tail of hair, layered armour like dark eldar-armour but with smooth curves, can be placed on vyper-variant, looks very similar to a vyper, canopy more segmented and wings in falcon-style, one large jet engine, chariot platform on the back, two large pennants

Eldar Webway Gate

Two arcs that almost touch each other at the top, whole construct has hazelnut shape, pyramidal platform with oval basis, several destroyed columns, front columns are intact and carry swooping hawk and dark reaper statues, whole model is covered with thorn-twines (seems to be optional)

Eldar Dire Avenger Xentarch

holds two handed samurai sword downwards, two wrist-mounted shuriken catapults, banner, 99% that the phoenix on it is modeled on, one foot stands on a rock with an owl next to it, all armour plates are bedecked with a rune pattern, don’t know if this is only painted on

Eldar Howling Banshee Xentarch

golfer pose, bends forwards and slashs upwards with a sabre, stretches other arm straight into the air, holds tri-swatiska, has snakes woven into her hair

Eldar Striking Scorpion Xentarch

jumps forwards, holds two short but thick chainswords in front, back of armour has backbone-like element that looks like a scorpion tail, continued on the helmet and ends in a sting, stands on ornamented plate with roots on it

Eldar Fire Dragon Xentarch

knees almost, holds very long pike with two hands ready to fire, huge cluster of grenades on his back and his belt, helm ends in a dragon head

Eldar Lamia Strike Fighter / Moon Siren Bomber & Eldar Black Warden
plastic flyer combi-kit - The flyer is pretty large and has a crossbow shape, two canopies, one fin. The main variant on the cover has some lances and a large dorsal distort cannon. The other variant has extra downward/sideway thrusters

Definitely sounds cool. I'm not sure I like the idea of dragon riders though. I am happy that I can differentiate the cataphracts from the wraithguard by using the metal models for the latter.

Plastic Wraithguard looking similar enough to the old metal Wraithguard is welcome. That won't completely obsolete the older models in spite of them being decades old.

It seems that these Xentarches are actually mini-Phoenix Lords in a way. A Phoenix Lord could pretty much be an upgrade to a Xentarch to be a special character.
The Avenger Xentarch sounds like Asurmen with the phoenix banner. The Banshee Xentarch sounds like Jain Zar with the claw and the Triskele. The Scorpion Xentarch sounds like Karandras with the ribbed-scorpion-design ending in a helmet=stinger. Dragon Xentarch sounds like Fuegan with his huge pike (except with a dragon helm).

Also if "Nuadhu" is the official and final spelling, it really is the special character from 3rdEd.

Spirit Warrior is the compulsory Trygon-Base that every codex seems to be getting.

Flyers have cool names, as always. Sleek and deadly creatures of mythology. Good change from the silliness that plagued the new Tyranids.

Color me excited even more. I don't care about viability in tournament play. Just give me new models. Anyone playing 40k competitively is just being silly anyways.

Also, warboss, You really really don't have to quote the entire thing.

Absolutionis wrote:Also, warboss, You really really don't have to quote the entire thing.

Yeah, I did. Sometimes leak posts can disappear and I wanted another copy of it.

Point taken. Apologies for the call-out.

Interesting change on the Avatar of the Young King; appears it's not the MC it used to be anymore, even though from that description, it is still larger than a eldar humanoid model.

It sounds cool, but I was kind of hoping for a more changed/modified version of the current Avatar; obviously a newer model, but with some changes to certain gear, etc.

Will have to see what abilities this new incarnation of the Avatar will have this time around....

Absolutionis wrote:Point taken. Apologies for the call-out.

No worries, no offence taken or meant. I also get annoyed when people quote long posts to add a single line but I'd be more worried about the poster editing out all that info which sounds at least plausible in this particular case.

warboss wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:Point taken. Apologies for the call-out.

No worries, no offence taken or meant. I also get annoyed when people quote long posts to add a single line but I'd be more worried about the poster editing out all that info which sounds at least plausible in this particular case.

that hurts bro!

I read lots of details I really like!
Dragonriders sounds great, just hope they can compete with super fast super agile shining spears ( both beeing lance cav).

Wow.... just wow.... I dont know what to think about all this. Some sounds great. Others sound like it could be eerily bad if handled the wrong way. I hope the new flier looks as awesome as it sounds.

sounds interesting... will have to give it all another read to absorb it all.
Sounds like I finished my WraithWalker just in time for it to fit in with the new Wraith aesthetic ; )
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/394013-.html?m=2

So, Everguard are a new Aspect...?
Depending on the sculpts, I may even have to break the No Finecast rule... excited! : )

"Everguard" don't sound like a new aspect.
Aspects are usually Verbing Nouns.

From the description, the Everguard seem to be more like heavy-armored Warlocks especially with the runes being a striking feature.

finnan wrote:sounds interesting... will have to give it all another read to absorb it all.
Sounds like I finished my WraithWalker just in time for it to fit in with the new Wraith aesthetic ; )
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/394013-.html?m=2

So, Everguard are a new Aspect...?
Depending on the sculpts, I may even have to break the No Finecast rule... excited! : )

You are a skilled modeler and painter..... But I just cant get past thinking of this wen I look at him.

http://www.elfwood.com/fanq/m/e/mercades3/tumnuselfwood.jpg

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2007/364/c/8/mr_tumnus_by_nightwing1975.jpg

*shudders*

I'm glad I didn't put the ribbons on him then! ; )

Spirit Warrior - Eldar version of the Dreadknight I'm thinking as it has a pilot. Can't help thinking that the description sounds quite fussy, but we'll have to wait and see. Part of me likes the idea of the cloak, but another part of me thinks is sounds a bit indulgent and unnecessary (not as if wraithbone needs to keep warm...). Is this a modern interpretation of the knight titans and is fitting in with the Exodite stuff? Hmm...

I'm undecided whether this is all cool new stuff to be excited about, or a clever wishlist written to sound convincing by taking elements from Eldar background and weaving them into something that sounds like a viable range.

If it is all true, some of the details are pretty interesting - Everguard are something new (apart from the 4th ed codex illustration), so it will be cool to see them. The spirit warrior is a nod back to the old Eldar Dreadnoughts or Knight Titans. The areas where it doesn't quite ring true for me are the Cataphracts (which don't seem to correlate to anything in historic background in either name or design - every Eldar figure to date has followed the human form).

I guess we'll just wait and see!

finnan wrote:
I'm glad I didn't put the ribbons on him then! ; )

Spirit Warrior - Eldar version of the Dreadknight I'm thinking as it has a pilot. Can't help thinking that the description sounds quite fussy, but we'll have to wait and see. Part of me likes the idea of the cloak, but another part of me thinks is sounds a bit indulgent and unnecessary (not as if wraithbone needs to keep warm...). Is this a modern interpretation of the knight titans and is fitting in with the Exodite stuff? Hmm...

First, I really like your wraith lord chicken runner.

The spirit warrior sounds like hate or love model. And yes, a cloak for a big mechanical walker sounds really ridiccolous, but I guess its part of a ritual dress to tie it to warlocks perhaps (?).